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Deriksburg Ceasefire

The Signatories of this treaty shall agree:

1.That a temporary [2 months RL] ceasefire be agreed upon.

2.That the Free Republic of Allanea take control of the areas of Axackal here depicted.

3.That Deriksburg be divided, controlled in it's Western part by Allanean, in it's Eastern part by Edolian forces.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/allanea/line.jpg

The USIH gives its backing to this treaty. The terms are fair and we urge all parties to accept them so that the conflict may end.

While the Imperium of Scandavian States can't and won't speak for the Imperium Socialistum Edolia, we have a strong feeling that our they will reject this proposal.

[You do realize that Ruhr has ruled in favor of Edolia's interpretation of the front?]

Allanea's cease fire is a sham and should not even be considered seriously. As of now my forces have taken complete control of Heston City and Allanea's South West Coast. I will continue to seize Allanean territory and crush Allanean forces until Allanea withdraws completely from Axackal and relinquishes any claim to it.

My forces arrived in Allanea as peace keepers working with the Empire of Yallack's most honourable forces to help safeguard against a UnAPS invasion and facilitate a peaceful end to the conflict.

Without provocation, Allanean forces attacked my peacekeeping troops, they are now paying a heavy, heavy price.

I would urge all nations on the Axackal front to resume attacking Allanean positions, Allanea has curently diverted all of it's northern forces to try and stop my Retaliatory Guard and has no more forces to throw at Axackal.

Allanea is on the brink of total defeat. The Allaneans would be well advised to meet my demands and contact me personally about peace.

I want the Allaneans to know, that I am activating an additional 5 Retaliatory Guard Armies, that is 400,000 men, with tanks, and support equipment. They will be on your coast very soon. I attempted to meet you half way, and work towards a peaceful resolution, my men were attacked as repayment for their kindness and now you will fall.

Supreme Republican Commander Istvan Vaikov, One-Hundredman of the Retaliatory Guard

In response to increased Ilek-Vlad aggression the 7th and 21st Armies have been mobilised completely and have set sail for TROUSRs to link up with 3rd Army currently there.

*My post in this thread mysteriously is not here...so I'll say it again*

Alleana, your interpretation of the front line is too liberal. Take it down, epecially in the north, but hold the Alaxackal capitol. I like that idea. Also knock down your claims in the south. But aside from that its all good.

Keep in mind how much territory Ilek claims to have taken out of Alleana. Please mark those down on your map also.

Another thing, a ceasefire right now would be beneficial to negotiating. I'd highly recommend that.

OOC: the above statement was by Ilek-Vaad's main military commander. In actuality (as displayed in the 'Feline Invades Allanea thread' only Heston City and the SouthWest strip of coastline are actually in Ilek-Vaad control. IC claims by generals or politicians may not entirely match the situation on the ground ;)

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/allanea/line.bmp

Here's that map.

Mind you, Ilek-Vaad is not holding Heston-city either, Yallak is.

As of now, Allanean forces declare a unilateral ceasefire on all fronts.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/allanea/line.bmp

Here's that map.

Mind you, Ilek-Vaad is not holding Heston-city either, Yallak is.

As of now, Allanean forces declare a unilateral ceasefire on all fronts.

My soldiers entered yesterday. Yallack agreed not to attack my men. We hold Heston City with Yallack.

http://img14.photobucket.com/albums/v42/allanea/line.bmp

Here's that map.

Mind you, Ilek-Vaad is not holding Heston-city either, Yallak is.

As of now, Allanean forces declare a unilateral ceasefire on all fronts.

My soldiers entered yesterday. Yallack agreed not to attack my men. We hold Heston City with Yallack.

Transponded on all frequencies:

"If all parties really desire an end to this conflict then, once again, the Empire of Yallak invites representitives of Edolia, Allanea, Ilek-Vaad and one UnAPS member of Edolia's choosing to the sealed and secured Heston City for negotiations to end the war." -

General Caracas, 7th Legion

Ilek-Vaad agrees, we already have Command General Adan Ring in Heston City and I trust him to act as our delegate.

Supreme Republican Commander Vaikov et. al.

"Let me make this clear: We shall not give up territory. We do not bow to imperialistic demands and we will sign no treaty that compromises the territorial integrity of our nation. If the Allaneans wish to continue to see their country torn apart piece by piece and their people slaughtered, we will oblige them."
Thomas von Leifric
Minister of War

<<OOC: That map is waaaay off. You haven't taken anywhere near that much territory. We agreed to thirty kilometers, which is a tiny strip along the border. And your forces in Deriksburg would be pretty much gone anyway, being outnumbered, outgunned, and fighting deep in the middle of enemy territory without any way of being resupplied.>>

"The unwillingness of the Edolians to cooperate is astonishing. Here we are, making all our effort to negotiate, even ceding, temporarily, part of our lawful possession - and they continue with the saber-rattling.

However, we will persist in negotiations."

Pavel Nikolski,
Presidential Advisor

<<OOC: There has been very little to no attacks on Deriksburg, sorry. Moreover, neither Edolia nor other forces have made almost no attempts to push back my forces in Axackal, all posts made by you spoke of "slowing down" the Allaneans. Given that, at one point, you posted of leaving Axackal completely, I would think the map to be quite... generous.

However, that entirely aside, the legality, in international law terms, of Edolia's possession of Axackal is... questionable.">>

OOC: well, it really doesen't matter what you or Edolia says. Ruhr stated above that your interpretation of the map was way too liberal, I'd go by what he says.


IC:

We can assume that an Allanean representative will be in Heston City to attend cease fire talks?

I can send an LAV to pick up the Allanea representative if need be, I believe I have men in the area.........

Command General Adan Ring, 4th Red Jaguar Command

"The unwillingness of the Edolians to cooperate is astonishing. Here we are, making all our effort to negotiate, even ceding, temporarily, part of our lawful possession - and they continue with the saber-rattling.

However, we will persist in negotiations."

Pavel Nikolski,
Presidential Advisor

"We are willing to negotiate in every other aspect. We will not, however, abandon Edolian citizens to Allanean imperialists. That is not negotiable. Furthermore, I should point out that the Allaneans are in no position to make demands. Their armies are cut off from supplies, without support and being slaughtered in the millions by unseen air forces. Their cities are open to be bombed by Edolian warplanes whenever the Scarlet Empire sees fit.

An immediate withdrawal of all sides to pre-war borders as a starting point of negotiations would make sense, no?"
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs

<<OOC: There has been very little to no attacks on Deriksburg, sorry. Moreover, neither Edolia nor other forces have made almost no attempts to push back my forces in Axackal, all posts made by you spoke of "slowing down" the Allaneans. Given that, at one point, you posted of leaving Axackal completely, I would think the map to be quite... generous.

However, that entirely aside, the legality, in international law terms, of Edolia's possession of Axackal is... questionable.">>
<<OOC: Hey... you stole my OOC writing style. ;)

Regardless, the falling back that I reported were in units of perhaps ten to fifteen kilometers. At most, you would have gained fifty kilometers, but considering that you changed to guerilla warfare tactics some time ago, you wouldn't be gaining any territory. Anyway, unless you were making massive breakthroughs, you wouldn't be able to take hundreds of kilometers in a matter of perhaps two weeks (the war has probably lasted about that long). Your map suggests perhaps 200 kilometer advances...

Regardless... Ruhr agrees with me.

Regarding the legality... Axackal has been part of Edolia for fifty years, the people are more Edolian than Allanean. Their loyalties -for the most part- lie with the Scarlet Empire. Allanea relinquished Axackal legally... what's to argue about?>>

"Our cities are open to your bombing? Whatever. You Edolians are laughable. It is only due to the pressure of our allies that we agree to negotiate this. However, a certain proportion of your population has rebelled against you. Our intelligence tells us that the numbers of pro-Allanean and pro-Edolian Axackalans are at least equal. We believe this should be a factor. "

Pavel Nikolsky,
Presidential Advisor

<<OOC: You posted about "Getting the heck out of Western Axackal". YOU posted about "Getting back to scandavian postion."

but considering that you changed to guerilla warfare tactics some time ago

And then returned to conventional units when the Yallak, Fantasan, and Tar-Kerillion units arrived, remember?

Ruhr is about to post, and I think he will surprise you. >>

"Our cities are open to your bombing? Whatever. You Edolians are laughable. It is only due to the pressure of our allies that we agree to negotiate this. However, a certain proportion of your population has rebelled against you. Our intelligence tells us that the numbers of pro-Allanean and pro-Edolian Axackalans are at least equal. We believe this should be a factor. "

Pavel Nikolsky,
Presidential Advisor
"You have no radar left that has the ability to detect our stealth craft. Furthermore, your capital is in the hands of Ilek-Vaad. There is little else that needs to be said in that regard. Your intelligence services are at fault if they claim that a 'significant portion of the population' has rebelled against us. The numbers are quite small and most of the rebellion has already been crushed. Though I admit that not all Axackalis are happy with Edolian rule, the majority of them support remaining with Edolia -though with increased autonomy (which we are willing to grant).
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

<<OOC: I should clear something up. I said that the numbers of Axackalis who were militantly pro-Edolian or pro-Allanean were about the same and that the general populace was generally split over their alliegence. About 1/3 are pro-Edolian, 1/3 pro-Allanean and about a third are in the middle. For the most part, they want to maintain the status quo or gain some more autonomy but would not wish to become part of Allanea.>>

<<OOC: You posted about "Getting the heck out of Western Axackal". YOU posted about "Getting back to scandavian postion."

but considering that you changed to guerilla warfare tactics some time ago

And then returned to conventional units when the Yallak, Fantasan, and Tar-Kerillion units arrived, remember?

<<OOC: I do not remember posting about "getting the hell out of Western Axackal" and the Scandavian positions were only a couple of kilometers behind our own. Once additional forces arrived, you had no air support and very little heavy ground fire. We weren't giving any ground.>>

See our IRC debate.

"We repeat: We will not compromise the territorial integrity of Edolia, nor will we abandon Edolians to a foreign power. Other issues are negotiable. We suggest that Allanea be happy with their territorial gains in -The Prophet- and not seek to advance their position further. If the Allanean people wish to have their capital back, we suggest that they not argue on this issue. It is non-negotiable"
Matthew von Pickett
Minister of Foreign Affairs

"While we leave the matter up to Edolia, we urge them to accept this peace treaty. It is not ideal, but it does bring peace." said David Anafai, the new Foreign Minister. "However, we make it clear to the whole world a policy that we have stated privately to the Allaneans. We feel the time for silence is over. It is, has been, and will be the policy of the Democratic Arcologies of Feline that all unique cultures are entitled to a nation-state of their own. It is, has been, and will be the policy of the Democratic Arcologies of Feline that this policy applies even to our allies and their Special Economic Zones." Amid a slew of reporters trying to ask him questions, Anafai quickly hurried to his office to await calls from every government on the face of the planet. Or close to it.

Matthew Von Pickett is quite correct. Axackal has been a recognized territory of Edolia for over 50 years. If the status were in doubt, Allanea would probably have taken their case to the Mediation Council or accepted independant arbitration. Allanea did not, because they realize they have no realistic claim on Axackal.

The death and suffering that Allanean government has caused, in my opinion, forfeits the legitimacy of their regime in Allanea.

That is all irrelevant at this point. Allanea will NOT have a capital or a SouthWest coast, until they leave Axackal.nly after Allanea has left Axackal, will the Axackal question be resolved. Allanea must end it's land grab before we support any process to determine the final state of Axackal.

Command General Adan Ring

"The Feline Government will also support their ally Edolia. They also will not have Heston City, a major arms manufacturing center. Which means that their ability to wage war is impaired."- Statement released the Ilek-Vaad statement.

A breakthrough. Hurrah for peace!
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147157

"Our cities are open to your bombing? Whatever. You Edolians are laughable. It is only due to the pressure of our allies that we agree to negotiate this. However, a certain proportion of your population has rebelled against you. Our intelligence tells us that the numbers of pro-Allanean and pro-Edolian Axackalans are at least equal. We believe this should be a factor. "

Pavel Nikolsky,
Presidential Advisor
"You have no radar left that has the ability to detect our stealth craft. Furthermore, your capital is in the hands of Ilek-Vaad. There is little else that needs to be said in that regard.

But Ilek-Vaad does not fight on your side, he is a peace keeper and hense this is irrelevant, even if he controlled half of Allanea.

Alleana, I told you to cut it back. That's not enough. A little more would suffice.

*And by the way, I really don't think that Ilek-Vaad would have even that much territory held in SW Alleana.