NationStates Jolt Archive


Fight Communism

Vrydag
19-05-2004, 17:43
All Freemarket Nations must put economic sanctions against communist and socialist nations. Let us destroy the RED TIDE and all its EVIL.
We must help small nations to secede from communist countries and must destroy the power of socialism/communism
British Communists
19-05-2004, 17:45
Do you like pain? I have over a thousand nukes mobilised right now, it wouldn't be much bother to turn a few around. Plus the last 3 or 4 people who made these type of threads got invaded and turned into communists. Be careful what you say.
Celtayoshi
19-05-2004, 17:45
Let me guess, you are right wing.

In any case you cause is hopeless, it can only boil down into a bloody never ending contest, i urge you to accept and work around communism
Warhammer Syndicate
19-05-2004, 17:48
I stand by British Communist, I myself am Communist. All my strategic forces are on Red Alert, and it wouldn't be hard at all to target you. If you want a war, you got it.
Free Outer Eugenia
19-05-2004, 17:49
Debout les damnés de la terre
Debout les forçats de la faim
La raison tonne en son cratère
C'est l'éruption de la fin
Du passe faisons table rase
Foules, esclaves, debout, debout
Le monde va changer de base
Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout

C'est la lutte finale
Groupons-nous, et demain (bis)
L'Internationale
Sera le genre humain

Il n'est pas de sauveurs suprêmes
Ni Dieu, ni César, ni tribun
Producteurs, sauvons-nous nous-mêmes
Décrétons le salut commun
Pour que le voleur rende gorge
Pour tirer l'esprit du cachot
Soufflons nous-mêmes notre forge
Battons le fer quand il est chaud

L'état comprime et la loi triche
L'impôt saigne le malheureux
Nul devoir ne s'impose au riche
Le droit du pauvre est un mot creux
C'est assez, languir en tutelle
L'égalité veut d'autres lois
Pas de droits sans devoirs dit-elle
Egaux, pas de devoirs sans droits

Hideux dans leur apothéose
Les rois de la mine et du rail
Ont-ils jamais fait autre chose
Que dévaliser le travail
Dans les coffres-forts de la bande
Ce qu'il a crée s'est fondu
En décrétant qu'on le lui rende
Le peuple ne veut que son dû.

Les rois nous saoulaient de fumées
Paix entre nous, guerre aux tyrans
Appliquons la grève aux armées
Crosse en l'air, et rompons les rangs
S'ils s'obstinent, ces cannibales
A faire de nous des héros
Ils sauront bientôt que nos balles
Sont pour nos propres généraux

Ouvriers, paysans, nous sommes
Le grand parti des travailleurs
La terre n'appartient qu'aux hommes
L'oisif ira loger ailleurs
Combien, de nos chairs se repaissent
Mais si les corbeaux, les vautours
Un de ces matins disparaissent
Le soleil brillera toujours.
Red Wales
19-05-2004, 17:50
The last nation to do this was destoryed, I suggest you reconsider your actions before your evil, ihuman and sadistic dictatorship Vrydag is liberated and the people freed.
McLeod03
19-05-2004, 17:52
OOC: If i may??

IC: As the Communists launch thousands of nuclear missiles into a small number of small-sized countries, the intense concentration of energy cause catastrophic changes to the world climate, triggers massive earthquakes world wide, and kicks up enough radioactive dust to cause massive global warming, leading into another ice age as the ice caps melt, shifting the oceans warm currents. Those who survive the blast and earthquakes starve as food sources die out.

Within a hundred years, the entire population of Earth is dead, simply because of Communist arrogrance and aggression.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 17:53
It was his agression :roll:
Warhammer Syndicate
19-05-2004, 17:54
I suggest you stay out of this Red Wales, this situation isn't your concern at all. Unless you want a war, I would stay away from this crisis. For one, your economy is struggling and your not that big. So please before someone else kicks your arse, stay out of it man.
Red Wales
19-05-2004, 17:59
I suggest you stay out of this Red Wales, this situation isn't your concern at all. Unless you want a war, I would stay away from this crisis. For one, your economy is struggling and your not that big. So please before someone else kicks your arse, stay out of it man.

I have a lot of allies who have helped me in the past and have repelled an attempted invasion, my allies are quiet powerful, so it would be foolish to invade me for standing up for myself agaisnt an aggersvie nation.
Vrydag
19-05-2004, 18:00
You Communists can all go to Cuba.
Your ideas are counterpruductive and inefficient.
Planned economies cannot compete against the free market. This is why the USSR went banckrupt. China is officially communist but in reality it has adopted many free market ideas but it is still very autocratic.
Free Nations have free markets and democracy.
Vrydag is no dictatorship our citizens are some of the freeest people in the world.
Demo-Bobylon
19-05-2004, 18:01
Unified Sith
19-05-2004, 18:01
Unified Sith
19-05-2004, 18:02
Josh Dollins
19-05-2004, 18:02
we already have and as we discover new nations that are communist/socialist we do so! We don't want to get militarily involved but we will defend ourselves and I can assure you considering we are one of the worlds top 10,000 arms manufacturers we are well prepared, this certainly includes nukes and a militia system but again this is only in our defense we will not strike. People fleeing from such evil nations are welcome within our borders if they are willing to work and care for themselves it would also be good if they learned the language for their own sakes.
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 18:02
we are not communists and our people wish it to remain that way. But we approve of you, Glorius comments.

Certain rogue nations are threatening the world, but this is nto communists so much as nuclear weapons. They will ruin our lives and people in this process how can we be free if we are dead?

Perhaps the forces of communism can reel them in, in a way that no one else can?
Josh Dollins
19-05-2004, 18:23
*prepares for the worst as the world allies against him and others like him*
Red Wales
19-05-2004, 18:24
"Vrydag is no dictatorship our citizens "

How come your Political rights are 'below average' and my Political Rights are Excellent? I hold Democratic elections every 5 years, it shows that you don't know anything.
Suid-Afrikaanse
19-05-2004, 18:49
Vrydag is a very important ally of the Suid-Afrikaanse Republiek.
We are one of the strongest economies and have sufficient weapons to protect our interests. There has been a change of government in Vrydag and you will soon see the levels of freedom go up.
We support the fight against communism. Let all Freedom loving Nations form an anti communist alliance.
Independent Hitmen
19-05-2004, 18:52
The use of nuclear missiles here would be grossly overkill. While i share many of the opinions of the nation that made this thread i believe that nuking is not the answer.

Any nuclear weapons launched will be viewed very dimly by the USIH and her allies.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 18:57
It was an empty threat. I'm not going to waste a nuke on such a measly nation.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 18:58
It was an empty threat. I'm not going to waste a nuk on such a measly nation.
Chivikistan
19-05-2004, 19:04
The people of Chivikistan note that their planned economy is stronger than the privatised economies of (surprisingly socialistic) Vrydag or of Suid Afrikaanse.

As it happens there's little interest here in... buying those countries and nationalising them, but it has often been said that Chivikistanis simply don't care how much material wealth they enjoy. Can't compete? We don't want to compete, civilisation is not a fight, and at this risk of contradicting myself, I believe we're winning this conversation.

-Milton Bradwhistle, A Treehouse, Ogdenville, Chivikistan.

Who in the living hell do they think they are? They've no right to tell me how to run my life or to force my loved ones into poverty! Do we have an army, yet? No? Well I don't know about the other one and three-quater billion of you, but I've half a mind to go round their and kick every arse in that backwards little slum! It's a good job my comrades are pacifist, or you people would all be dead right now!

-Barry X, location undisclosed, Chivikistan.

Uhm, do... do you think we should invite these little countries round for a drink?

-Wendy Godzilla, Giantpeanut Street, Chivikistan.
Social-Technocracia
19-05-2004, 19:14
Technocracia would like to state that we stand on the side of the communists. Although we do not support the use of nuclear weapons we detest the anti-communist stance which unthinking right wing nations take. We can see that you are a young nation, and warn you that many nations that make threads like this end up with a communist puppet government. If you INSIST on making war with communism im sure there's plenty of people who will fight you, the glorious Socialist nation of Technocracia being one. Your nations are surprisingly socialistic for anti-communists, so we wonder why the anti-communist stance?
Warhammer Syndicate
20-05-2004, 18:33
Exactly.

As for Red Wales, I also have ALOT of powerfull allies. So don't talk crap.
Fuhrer landw
20-05-2004, 18:34
If these communist dogs dare threaten my National Socialist comrades, there will be hell to pay
British Communists
20-05-2004, 18:37
You're a speck of dust compared to many communist nations, if you like ruling your own country, and would prefer not to have it ruled by a communist puppet, I'd be quiet.
Warhammer Syndicate
20-05-2004, 18:41
You're a speck of dust compared to many communist nations, if you like ruling your own country, and would prefer not to have it ruled by a communist puppet, I'd be quiet.

That is exactly true! so shut it.
Sovietonia
20-05-2004, 18:43
Communism has great ideals. However, nations that turn to it are often war torn or in debt, and the leader of the rebellion/political party is frequently put in power. This individual often becomes corrupt, and the next leader will forget what communism is all intended for. Then you get leaders such as Stalin. Put communism in a country that has a stable economy, willing people, and controlled by the real public, rather than an individual who inevitably becomes a dictator, and it could well work.
Rokolev
20-05-2004, 18:44
:lol:
I like your tiny nations playing big..
GHI
20-05-2004, 18:44
British Communists, you DON'T have a thousand nukes. You are still to young.
Dregruk
20-05-2004, 18:46
Dregruk stands firmly on the side of open market and has been making attempts for years to crush communism whenever possible.
Fuhrer landw
20-05-2004, 18:47
We will not listen to your Communist rhetoric.
British Communists
20-05-2004, 18:47
Of course I don't. I only have a few hundred. I said that as a deterent.
Sovietonia
20-05-2004, 18:49
We have 670 million citizens. we are certainly not young.
Spanksalot
20-05-2004, 18:51
Fight it with Cheeeeeeese & Pooda!
Sovietonia
20-05-2004, 18:51
Post something useful, or dont post at all.
Red Scandinavia
20-05-2004, 19:00
Foreign Office, Peoples' Federation of Scandinavia

Vrydag's claims, while not original in the least, must be adressed by a sensible and humanistic socialist nation. Much as your capitalist nation and its ideological allies might consider our economical and political ideals inefficient, it is not allowed by international law to dictate the management and politics of another nation, save when that nation is in extremely great violation of UN regulations.

Therefore, your posturing amounts to nil and are void. We will not take kindly to Vrydag or any other nation that attacks a sovereign country simply because they do not like communism(or for that matter, nations attacking capitalist countries simply because they do not like that).

Regards,
Keld Albrechtsen,
Unity List party secretary,
chairman of the foreign office.
imported_Polok
20-05-2004, 19:05
Polok resembles the communist state in many of its ideals, however our nation also differs from the typical communist nation in many respects. We instill regulations on businesses in order to retain the rights of the worker and have large social welfare programs in order to make sure as few people as possible are below the poverty line. However are market could mostly be considered free. We have many strong businesses, its just that the executives who run these businesses earn just as much as the common worker and must meet strict regulations. It seems only logical that a nation has a large number of financially secure residents instead of some incredibly rich people and some incredibly poor people. After all, isnt a nation judged on how it treats its worst off citizens?

Why would you wish to declare war on a nation, simply because of its economic policies?

N.B. Polok has one of the largest GDPs in the world, so i dont think your economic sanctions will have any effect

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/pnewsigns.jpg
The Polokian Web Site (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/Jnew%20Web/myweb4/index.htm)
The Imperium of Might world factbook (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mdavis5870/IOM.htm)
Proletariat Comrades
20-05-2004, 19:12
"The Dictatorship of Proletariat Comrades allies itself with the other Communist nations here. We, though a small nation, will back our comrades to the best of our ability, fighting tooth and nail against those who would attempt to stem the tide of the inevitable World Revolution.

Nations who wish to defeat communists (who are not even making threats against them in the vast majority of cases) are greatly outnumbered here, and will be easily crushed by those they vow to destroy. Communists want peace with other nations, unless threatened by warmongering imperialists like Vrydag. Provoking us is a good way to undergo a revolution of the people and become communist yourself.

If you continue to oppress your working class, wink at the rich, threaten other countries, and, most brazenly, accuse communist nations of taking rights from the citizens (even as your own people groan under the burden your corrupt rich have placed upon them), the proletariat of your nation will rebel, rightfully so, and be encouraged by us. Great misery could well befall the rich and powerful in your nation for your actions today. This is not a threat, but a warning."

—Alaru Srundo
Gerneral Secretary, Communist Party of Proletariat Comrades
Setian-Sebeceans
20-05-2004, 19:23
We support this attack on the children of marx. We will put sanctions on all communist and socialist nations.
Red Wales
20-05-2004, 19:36
Warhammer Syndicate am I not allowed to defend my own nation against threats of war from such threats? As indeed this topic was? I do beleive so. Also the nation whom started this topic has 50 million population, which is smaller then my nation of about 220 million, so why accuse me of being too small against a nation of 50 million? hmm? And as for my ecomony, I get aid to support that, and some of that aid is used for my military. Like I said I am only defending my nation against this threat.
Setian-Sebeceans
20-05-2004, 22:23
Don't any one call me small, I have over 1.3 Billion.