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Friends of Legitimate governments, hasten to my defense

19-05-2004, 15:22
FWS recently held elections

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146409&start=20


They elected the Prophet and Emperor Hendrik Rhodes, a man who had to flee into exile to escape the butchers who were invading his nation.

Sith is at present, attempting to wreck the FWS and destroy us.


I ask all friends of democracy and democratically elected fascism to help us.

The people of FWS have spoken via the vote, Sith just doesn't like what they've said
British Communists
19-05-2004, 15:32
The elections were rigged. Anyone who votes for someone who outlaws civil rights needs their heads checking.
McLeod03
19-05-2004, 15:34
BC, please, since you are so fantastically knowledgable, could you please provide both evidence that this election was rigged, and evidence that your own elections, should you have any, are not also rigged.
19-05-2004, 15:34
I figured people might say that. But the Social-Democrat party leader along with all communist leaders agree the elections were fair and open.

When a devout people believe Hendrik Rhodes is a prophet, and they know he was coronated as emperor a while back, and they believe that their emperor is the presence of God on earth, then they'll vote for him.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 15:36
BC, please, since you are so fantastically knowledgable, could you please provide both evidence that this election was rigged, and evidence that your own elections, should you have any, are not also rigged.

I don't have any evidence. I don't have elections, its a one party state, and in recent opinion polls 97% said they were happy with this.
McLeod03
19-05-2004, 15:37
How do we know that opinion poll was not rigged?
Doujin
19-05-2004, 15:37
And how do we know the polls weren't rigged?
British Communists
19-05-2004, 15:39
You don't, but I can assure they weren't. By all means go on a witch hunt, but Mcleod, you support the people in the wrong, including terrorists who exploded a dirty bomb in my capital, and people who call for genocide.
McLeod03
19-05-2004, 15:42
I suppor those who are victimised, and who are gnaged up on by people who fight not for justice, but because its what everyone else does. I myself am stauntly anti-terror, as evidenced from wars long before you even came to NS. I do not support genocide, even with the dark past of my country of which few people outside McLeod03 would know about. I do support democratically elected governments. If 90% of the people want this government, why do you have to overthrow it? What gives you that right?
Celtayoshi
19-05-2004, 15:43
We will see, of course we will hope to see regular elections being held, and perhaps the next time official inspectors can verify that these elections are not rigged
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 15:43
rumours of a supressed black population have been investigated, we are not certain but it seems that your underclasses dont vote.

We will be avoiding though trying to end the war peacefully, as we wish proper democracy to be installed and your people to be properly looked after.

If this were to happen you may have some assistance, in the mean time, unless human right reform is seen we shall not be assisting or trying to get you more aid.
Archaic Slang Words
19-05-2004, 15:44
FWS, I'll gladly assist you in the fight against Sith. I've declared war based on someone's stance/opinion, but never on a democratically elected candidate. Consider us willing to help.

Keep me TGed with updates. I'll assist as seen vital.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 15:44
Who said I want to over throw it? I've never said I was going to get involved military-wise, I've just spoken out against it. I think its my right as I believe if he goes unchecked, he could threaten the future of other nations.
McLeod03
19-05-2004, 15:47
Who said I want to over throw it? I've never said I was going to get involved military-wise, I've just spoken out against it. I think its my right as I believe if he goes unchecked, he could threaten the future of other nations.

So you are prepared to sacrifice the future of one nation, on the off chance that he might threaten the future of another? You, sir, are a hypocrit.
British Communists
19-05-2004, 15:50
You still don't seem to have realised that until me or an ally are threatened, I'M NOT GETTING INVOLVED MILITARY-WISE.
19-05-2004, 15:51
rumours of a supressed black population have been investigated, we are not certain but it seems that your underclasses dont vote.

We will be avoiding though trying to end the war peacefully, as we wish proper democracy to be installed and your people to be properly looked after.

If this were to happen you may have some assistance, in the mean time, unless human right reform is seen we shall not be assisting or trying to get you more aid.


ONE LAST TIME ARE YOU UNABLE TO READ ????

THE BLACKS ALL MOVED TO WESTERN AND COASTAL PROVINCE AGES AGO (10-20 years ago)

THE BLACKS LIVE IN MOBUTOLAND, THEY ARE FREE, THE ELECT THEIR OWN LEADERS!!! THE FWS HAS NO CONTROL OVER THEM... THEY ELECTED MFUME MUGABE AS PRESIDENT OF MOBUTOLAND
Dr_Twist
19-05-2004, 15:51
Maybe we should point out that the Fascists in his Country Nuked a City controlled By communists...? Why would you nuke a City controlled by Communists?
Archaic Slang Words
19-05-2004, 15:54
Fascists and commies hate each other. Simple. Why else would they blast the commies to Hell?
Archaic Slang Words
19-05-2004, 15:55
Fascists and commies hate each other. Simple. Why else would they blast the commies to Hell? By the way, I entirely support that action, blasting commies... :twisted:
Momanguise
19-05-2004, 16:05
Alright people, here are my reasons for invading Fascist White States.

a) He spread fascist propaganda in my nation, in which it preached imperialism, fascism and racial and political hatred. And guess what? The book in question was written by the current Leader.

b) He attempted to aquire chemcials almost certainly for use in genocide.

c) on a regional message board, he posted that he was planning genocide.

d) He invaded Unified Sith.

e) I ask you people, if the elections were '90% for the facsist party', then why (oh why) is there currently a civil war going on (which has considerable popular support?)

f) no election held under such unstable cirumstatances can be truely representative

g) Facsism by nature is Autocratic. Facsism and democratic are non-compatible. Thereby I am led to believe this is rigged.

Happy now?
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 16:15
we will pleadge aid for after the inevitable nuking, conditional that human rights are installed (please begin sorting issues in a humanitarian way until you have some human rights, you have one week to get more than "outlawed political and human rights otherwise aid will be cut) all people (and balck people will be reconised as equal people) shall have the vote and the state will stop being fashist.

If this is met aid will continue.

We will begin aid once the nuking happens, who else is with me (on these or any other conditions)
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 16:16
we will pleadge aid for after the inevitable nuking, conditional that human rights are installed (please begin sorting issues in a humanitarian way until you have some human rights, you have one week to get more than "outlawed political and human rights otherwise aid will be cut) all people (and balck people will be reconised as equal people) shall have the vote and the state will stop being fashist.

If this is met aid will continue.

We will begin aid once the nuking happens, who else is with me (on these or any other conditions)
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 16:17
we will pleadge aid for after the inevitable nuking, conditional that human rights are installed (please begin sorting issues in a humanitarian way until you have some human rights, you have one week to get more than "outlawed political and human rights otherwise aid will be cut) all people (and balck people will be reconised as equal people) shall have the vote and the state will stop being fashist.

If this is met aid will continue.

We will begin aid once the nuking happens, who else is with me (on these or any other conditions)
Notquiteaplace
19-05-2004, 16:20
19-05-2004, 23:57
a) He spread fascist propaganda in my nation, in which it preached imperialism, fascism and racial and political hatred. And guess what? The book in question was written by the current Leader.



c) on a regional message board, he posted that he was planning genocide.



e) I ask you people, if the elections were '90% for the facsist party', then why (oh why) is there currently a civil war going on (which has considerable popular support?)



Answer A) Is Freedom of speech outlawed in your nation? Also, my leader has not really written any political books yet, only military theory books.

Answer C) Yes, but we never carried it out, we instead paid them all to leave decades ago (The post was supposed to represent the old racially troubled FWS) now we are the new pure FWS, the fws with no racial tensions because we paid all the blacks to leave.

Answer E) The civil war was at first between communists (1-1.5% of nation) and fascists (about 98%). Then when Sith "Peace keepers" came into the equation, the groups united and the insurgency against the "peace keepers" began... A civil war was being fought to preserve the current government (Fascist National Party government)... Not to topple it... It only takes 1/10 of 1% to start a small scale war.
20-05-2004, 00:38
Fascists and commies hate each other. Simple. Why else would they blast the commies to Hell?



That was not the government and it was a small city during the insurgency a few days ago. The fascist guerilla militants stole 3 nuclear artillery shells from an army base where the shells were being stored for dismantling, police recovered 2 and arrested suspects but the people managed to nuke a small town that the communists had seized and depopulated (The communists chased all residents out of the town, there had been about 8,000 living there until 3,200 militants from a communist group seized it).
20-05-2004, 00:50
Maybe we should point out that the Fascists in his Country Nuked a City controlled By communists...? Why would you nuke a City controlled by Communists?



That was not the government and it was a small city during the insurgency a few days ago. The fascist guerilla militants stole 3 nuclear artillery shells from an army base where the shells were being stored for dismantling, police recovered 2 and arrested suspects but the people managed to nuke a small town that the communists had seized and depopulated (The communists chased all residents out of the town, there had been about 8,000 living there until 3,200 militants from a communist group seized it).
20-05-2004, 04:05
I am asking for all nations regardless of government type to send troops to FWS to help form a coalition to defeat Sith aggression. If Unified Sith is allowed to overrun the FWS, well Mobutoland has already declared they think they'll be next. Also Zambia, Mozambique, South Africa, Lesotho, and Swaziland will all be in danger...

Therefore, we are asking that all nations who have a vested interest in stopping aggression send all the troops they can to Fascia... We call on you all to help us. We Fascians in the FWS will fight and die to defend Fascia. I ask that you help us so that we don't fight and die for no reason. Fascian and allied forces already in place along the southern side of the Victorian can hold for a while, but we will need outside help.


I sincerely believe that if FWS is allowed to fall, then Sith will eventually dominate and annex most of the entire region. His unchecked aggression must finally be checked.

Join the Allied Coalition and help check it.
20-05-2004, 04:09
President Hendrik Rhodes of FWS meet with President Mfume Mugabe of Mobutoland in the FWS capital of Rhodes City. The two men were seen to shake hands and then embraced. They spoke for several hours and then President Mugabe answered several questions.

Reporter: "How do you like FWS?"

Mfume Mugabe: "You have a very nice nation here, but I prefer Mobutoland, nothing beats home."

Reporter: "Does your visit here signal a new era of FWS- Mobutoland relations."

Mfume Mugabe: "Yes"

Reporter: "Allegations are against FWS that they killed numerous people in your land. Is that true."

Mfume Mugabe. "No. Would we ally with a nation that genocided against our people?"

Reporter: "An alliance ? Does this mean you're sending forces into FWS?"

Mfume Mugabe: "Yes, I just gave the order to send in large numbers of troops to take up positions along the Victorian River southern bank. Now I am sorry but I must be running along."

Reporter: "Well you just heard it, I can hardly believe it myself... An alliance between Mobutoland and FWS."
Irondin
20-05-2004, 04:11
President Hendrik Rhodes of FWS meet with President Mfume Mugabe of Mobutoland in the FWS capital of Rhodes City. The two men were seen to shake hands and then embraced. They spoke for several hours and then President Mugabe answered several questions.

Reporter: "How do you like FWS?"

Mfume Mugabe: "You have a very nice nation here, but I prefer Mobutoland, nothing beats home."

Reporter: "Does your visit here signal a new era of FWS- Mobutoland relations."

Mfume Mugabe: "Yes"

Reporter: "Allegations are against FWS that they killed numerous people in your land. Is that true."

Mfume Mugabe. "No. Would we ally with a nation that genocided against our people?"

Reporter: "An alliance ? Does this mean you're sending forces into FWS?"

Mfume Mugabe: "Yes, I just gave the order to send in large numbers of troops to take up positions along the Victorian River southern bank. Now I am sorry but I must be running along."

Reporter: "Well you just heard it, I can hardly believe it myself... An alliance between Mobutoland and FWS."

wow I wonder how much this will help agenst the 100s of nukes pointing at you
20-05-2004, 04:15
I will send in 400,000 soldiers to Northern Province along the Victorian River. Also there are many allied soldiers in this effort. They may use Mobutoland to land supplies etc.

I want the world to know the genocide allegations against Rhodes and FWS are totally false.
20-05-2004, 04:16
I will send in 400,000 soldiers to Northern Province along the Victorian River. Also there are many allied soldiers in this effort. They may use Mobutoland to land supplies etc.

I want the world to know the genocide allegations against Rhodes and FWS are totally false.


I accept your offer, send them in right away.
Dakara
20-05-2004, 04:42
BC, please, since you are so fantastically knowledgable, could you please provide both evidence that this election was rigged, and evidence that your own elections, should you have any, are not also rigged.

I don't have any evidence. I don't have elections, its a one party state, and in recent opinion polls 97% said they were happy with this.

so your a stalinist dog?? am i understanding this correctly?
20-05-2004, 04:54
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Magdha
20-05-2004, 05:08
Magdha has already sent military aid across the border (And anti ICBM weapons).
The Following Divisions are moving into FWS to assist the government:

The 33rd Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers in IFVs
The 1st Elite Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers un IFVs
The 32nd Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers in IFVs
The 24th Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers in IFVs
The 98th Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers in IFVs
The 166th Infantry- 25,000 Soldiers in IFVs
The III Infantry Corps- 100,000 Men in IFVs

The 1st Elite Armor- 1500 Tanks, 350 Artillery, 50 Mobile Sam sites.
5th Armor- 1,500 Tanks, 20 Mobile Sam Sites, 10 MLRS
17th Armor- 1500 Tanks, 100 Artillery, 10 Mobile SAMs
12th Cavalry- 5,500 Tanks
10th Armor- 2000 Tanks, 100 Artillery, 30 Mobile SAMs.

45th Seige- 1500 Heavy Self Propelled artillery, 100 Mobile SAMS, 1500 Men with Mortars.

223rd Paratroops- 1500 Men

And 100 Anti ICBM missile systems with almost 700 Missiles.