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I am asking all communist nations to offer aid in liberating FWS and its people from the grips of oppression.

Yesterday Mahgdad and a group of other select nations broke the peace treaty fromed by Unified Sith and Credonia on the surrender on FWS. The Fascists have entered FWS and have begun attacking our peacekeepers, I ask all nations to defend your comrades in arms, against these genocidal maniacs. Without the peacekeeper presence, FWS will resort into a nation of genocide and anarchy. Help us help the world.

As a result of the escalation of this conflict by the fascists the reserve forces of the Sith army are being mobilized. 2345679 men are currently being fitted with arms and uniform. The factories have begun the mass production of tanks and it has now become very clear that this will be a war of ideolgy.

We are democratic and so i doubt we can wield much influence on you but we implore you not to do this.

This blood shed is a pointless waste. All forces should withdraw as FWS property has been attacked and its sovereignity is threatened.

Let us instead pressure the conflict to stop and the lections to involve all the people including the black population. Let FWS become a true democracy as it is known the black popultation actually exceeds the white. The government will change if all people can vote.

If we instead ensure that fair elections take place, we can allow the people to liberate themselves.

Why is it that everytime someone, not necessarily a communist, declares war on a fascist nation the commies have to get involved to 'liberate the people'. In any case i think FWS is somewhat like Apartheid and that is completely a wrong doing in itself. However, i still say that the commies jump on the bandwagon everytime they see some weak country being overpowered all around, like vultures on a carcass.

However, let's take a time out and do a bit of elementary history about the oppresion of the masses under a political view that cedes to 'free' the very people the oppress, thats right, communism or whatever you call it, Marxism, Leninism, Bolshevism, Menshevism, Socialism, Stalinisn, Gorbachevism, whatever.
It seems that when Vladimir Ilyeich, better known as Lenin, seated himself at power in the Tauride palace after ovethrowing the weak and feeble Provisional Government that he would create his own state of 'Red Tsarism'. Thus the month after he took power he introduced his secret police, called the 'Cheka', much the same as the Tsarist secret police, the 'Okhrana', and worse than the Gestapo, at least in the atrocities they commited between 1917 and 1924 in which they killed estimates of 150-200 thousand people without trial.
The we move on a decade and 4 years to when Stalin finally came to absolute power in late 1938. He is said to have killed over EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE between 1938 and 1953. There are other smaller accounts of oppression under Khruschev 'The Butcher of Stalingrad', but the rest of the world had moved on by then.

Now we see another picture emerging, the nice, smug idea of communism gives way to a stronger picture of bloody murder and fascist style oppresion, thus i say to communists, take a look at the history of your chosen politics before you decide to criticise that of your enemies.

-HIRGIZSTAN-

I will pledge my assistance in this matter, contact me for more information.

My nation pledges 3000 Red Army Escudos and 50 SIG 552 assault rifles to your cause.

Even though we hate war, theres only one thing we hate more than war...Facists.

I will pledge: 300 Combat Tanks, 15,000 soldiers, and communication support. These facist states will not stand much longer, in the future I will pledge even more units to the fight.

Why is it that everytime someone, not necessarily a communist, declares war on a fascist nation the commies have to get involved to 'liberate the people'. In any case i think FWS is somewhat like Apartheid and that is completely a wrong doing in itself. However, i still say that the commies jump on the bandwagon everytime they see some weak country being overpowered all around, like vultures on a carcass.

However, let's take a time out and do a bit of elementary history about the oppresion of the masses under a political view that cedes to 'free' the very people the oppress, thats right, communism or whatever you call it, Marxism, Leninism, Bolshevism, Menshevism, Socialism, Stalinisn, Gorbachevism, whatever.
It seems that when Vladimir Ilyeich, better known as Lenin, seated himself at power in the Tauride palace after ovethrowing the weak and feeble Provisional Government that he would create his own state of 'Red Tsarism'. Thus the month after he took power he introduced his secret police, called the 'Cheka', much the same as the Tsarist secret police, the 'Okhrana', and worse than the Gestapo, at least in the atrocities they commited between 1917 and 1924 in which they killed estimates of 150-200 thousand people without trial.
The we move on a decade and 4 years to when Stalin finally came to absolute power in late 1938. He is said to have killed over EIGHT MILLION PEOPLE between 1938 and 1953. There are other smaller accounts of oppression under Khruschev 'The Butcher of Stalingrad', but the rest of the world had moved on by then.

Now we see another picture emerging, the nice, smug idea of communism gives way to a stronger picture of bloody murder and fascist style oppresion, thus i say to communists, take a look at the history of your chosen politics before you decide to criticise that of your enemies.

-HIRGIZSTAN-

Take a look at your chosen subject before criticising it.
1.) Socialism is NOT a form of Communism.
2.) Stalinism is NOT Communism/Socialism
3.) Its amazing you can stand Fascist states.

IC:

We pledge all available manpower for this operation. Post soon.

At present there is a force of over 100,000 peacekeepers in FWS. However FWS and his Nazi supporters are attempting to get rid of mine and Credonias peace keepers so they can begin their regin of Genoncide again.

OOC: Thanks for the history lesson HIRGIZSTAN :?

We at Craggtopia are deeply troubled by the attacks against the FWS. Although we do not agree with their policies we cannot stand idly by and watch Communists thrust their beliefs upon them. We will be willing to use all our military force to fight along the FWS to protect their way of life and support the allies of FWS. Although we would rather not trouble ourselves with war and would like to comprimise we are still mobilizing our armies in preperation for some Commie bashing.

[code:1:ecdbc6272c]NATION...CRAGGTOPIA
CRAGGTOPIA...SEARCHING
CRAGGTOPIA...FOUND
CRAGGTOPIA... MINIMAL THREAT

We severely advise Craggtopia to withdraw their support from Fascist White States. Supporting Fascist White States Militarily is declaring a state of war with The Union of Freeborn Republics of Hogweat. It is a mutual pact. We hope you will change your mind[/code:1:ecdbc6272c]

The overwieght cigar smoking leader of craggtopia listens to the message of Hogsweat and does some research on them .
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"Sweet mother of god! 1.4billion!!!!" :shock: :shock:

Message
To: Leader of Hogsweat
From: Jack, Supreme Leader of Craggtopia
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We want nothing less then war, unless it is with someone smaller and weaker then us. We will not assist FWS at this point, but know this! We disaprove of your actions and will print nasty alterd pictures of you and your leaders in our tabloid newspapers... Ahem,
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The overwieght cigar smoking leader of craggtopia listens to the message of Hogsweat and does some research on them .
.......

"Sweet mother of god! 1.4billion!!!!" :shock: :shock:

Message
To: Leader of Hogsweat
From: Jack, Supreme Leader of Craggtopia
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We want nothing less then war, unless it is with someone smaller and weaker then us. We will not assist FWS at this point, but know this! We disaprove of your actions and will print nasty alterd pictures of you and your leaders in our tabloid newspapers... Ahem,
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OCC: better be careful what you say he has a lot of powerful allies.

We have been on a cold war like stance with FWS. To see their government finally fall to a more socialist government will make all races of people throughout the world a little more safer. We will therefor become involved in this conflict and we will bring the matter up to The International for debate.

OCC: Stalinism is not a form of Communism. Niether is Bolshevism or any system called communism that culd have exsisted in the USSR. The USSR was not Communist at all for it was a type of Socialism. The elite government officals were given speical treatment will the workers starved and what not. In communism, the government is not given speical treatment. Do not get me started in a debate sir, because even though I am not as old as you in NS, I know a whole hell of alot more about Communism than you do.

There are no minorities / majorities etc in the FWS... There is only white. 100% white. Many years ago, all the blacks moved to Mobutoland and now Mobutoland and FWS are quite good friends... Also I have moved the election date for FWS Free and open elections forward to next tuesday.

I am sorry but, I dont have an army enough to help or else i would. I have a very small army. The only thing i could give u would be 50 machine guns but, I just bought them and they have not shipped.

Is this meger 16 million nation such a problem that it takes several threads and nations to handle this problem? Annex his a** and get it over with! :roll:

Who started the endless bloodletting?

Screw with FWS you screw with me.

We don't want your interfrerence in another nation's internal matters.

Screw with FWS you screw with me.

"Noted"
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ooc:this is rediculous

OOC: this is rediculous, is a country out 16million that big of a thr eat..it's a game. let him run his country. damn.
::Prime Minister Nikitov looks to his War Council::
Not Again....Any nation who attacks an ally of ours, is attacking us. Prepare Divisions 1-6, 1st and 3rd Air Forces, and Battle Groups Damien, Lucifer, Das Boot, Burke Dich, Yochenkov, plus 8 Defense Fleets and the Rear Support Fleet. Prepare Quaterback Sneak.

What the Hell? I could squash this patheic nation of 18 million on my own!!! How the hell are they making so much trouble?

I now pledge 250 troops and thirty APCs.

This war will be over soon. This nation cant have many more than 20,000 soldiers in total.

link for the war on FWS everyone send in your men.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146520

The reason why i have not crushed this bug alone is that he has allies only a few but allies none the less. However we will win.

The Democratic Republic of Anime-Otakus wishes to remain neutral in this conflict.

I'm going to invade the FWS soon, I would love to see them fall.

OOC: Where should I post my invasion stuff?

In an official Statement from the Celtayoshi Premier, The Allied States of Celtayoshi believes the best policy to adopt here is to withdraw ALL troops from FWS, to demiliterise FWS, then, allow free, democratic elections to occur, and FWS can build up as he see fits, begining his own military from scratch again.

In an official Statement from the Celtayoshi Premier, The Allied States of Celtayoshi believes the best policy to adopt here is to withdraw ALL troops from FWS, to demiliterise FWS, then, allow free, democratic elections to occur, and FWS can build up as he see fits, begining his own military from scratch again.

Thats just it. Free democratic elections have been held, but the communists don't like the outcome, and want to "make him a symbol of our intolerance of that system". Thats why im trying to get everyone out of his country so he can grow in relative peace.

Secret comment by Premier Németh: Ruddy Commies

Clearly we have the same link of thinking

To the communists: I think you have made your point clear, but now you are preventing change, you must allow change to happen, by acccepting the results of free and open elections.

I would say that the reds are not gonna leave FWS alone until he openly declares a state of communism.

I agree with Celtayoshi in that you should probably endorse a Versailles style treaty on FWS, allowing him to continue to run the country but on a solid leash.

OOC: To the gentleman who said that he was more knowledgable in the area of communist ideology. I am well aware of the fact that the USSR was not communist, it was merely a faked communist state run by a series of idiotic Dictators, the only real politician being Gorbachev.
I am quite sure you have a wide and better than average knowledge of communism but possibly what you have not considered is that i, Hirgizstan and my allies, consider anything that stemmed from Marxism, i.e. the Bolsheviks and their offshoots and breeding of things like Stalinism, to be 'Communist' as although they differ much in their real internal workings they are outwardly bellowing a Marxist plan.
I am sure i could argue at length with you over the subject as i used to be communist, not in NS though.


-HIRGZISTAN-

I would say that the reds are not gonna leave FWS alone until he openly declares a state of communism.

I agree with Celtayoshi in that you should probably endorse a Versailles style treaty on FWS, allowing him to continue to run the country but on a solid leash.

OOC: To the gentleman who said that he was more knowledgable in the area of communist ideology. I am well aware of the fact that the USSR was not communist, it was merely a faked communist state run by a series of idiotic Dictators, the only real politician being Gorbachev.
I am quite sure you have a wide and better than average knowledge of communism but possibly what you have not considered is that i, Hirgizstan and my allies, consider anything that stemmed from Marxism, i.e. the Bolsheviks and their offshoots and breeding of things like Stalinism, to be 'Communist' as although they differ much in their real internal workings they are outwardly bellowing a Marxist plan.
I am sure i could argue at length with you over the subject as i used to be communist, not in NS though.


-HIRGZISTAN-

Free elections and demilitarisation of FWS...I think we should go for that.

-From a Socialist state

Free elections and demilitarisation of FWS...I think we should go for that.

-From a Socialist state

We already had free elections, commies picked up 46 seats in parliament (400 seats total) the fascist national party Hendrik Rhodes, the fascians emperor won the election.

demilitarisation? I hardly think that is fair regarding all of the Socialist nations that want to attack them.

The Peoples Republic of Muraliland and the rest of the PACult region will offer you complete support in the abolishing of Fascist evils...

OOC: I am well aware of the fact that the USSR was not communist, it was merely a faked communist state run by a series of idiotic Dictators, the only real politician being Gorbachev.

OOC: Lenin? Lenin, anyone?

The only reason why FWS is stilll alive is because of his Godmodding. Ignore him and stop wasting my bandwith.

They have free elections, the people want them, its a democracy, so why do you not let them be.

Magdha also desires neutrality and will provide no support to FWS whatsoever.

National Socialism shall prevail :twisted: ..we will not abandon our brothers to the homicidal communist aggressors

Yeah! Our doublethinking policies will always prevail!

Because:
War is Peace...
Freedom is Slavery...
Ignorance is Strength...

Oh damn it! I revealed our masterplan!