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The recent boom in naval production has caused Hudecia Industries to consider selling navy warships to all nations. Currently available for sale
are three vessels. However, should sales be successful more will come.

Available Vessels:
Nimitz class Carrier - $2.5 billion
Padre (Yamato) class Battleship - $1.5 billion
Albion class Assault Ship - $1.2 billion
KDX-I Okpo class DDH - $500 million
Pacificat High Speed Transport - $400 million
Province class Destroyer - $350 million
Halifax class Frigate - $200 million
Ottawa class AOR transport - $100 million

Nimitz Class Carrier

http://www.highgallery.com/USS_Nimitz_0134.jpg
Power Plant: Two nuclear reactors, four shafts
Length, overall: 1,092 feet (332.85 meters)
Flight Deck Width: 252 feet (76.8 meters)
Beam: 134 feet (40.84 meters)
Displacement: Approx. 97,000 tons (87,996.9 metric tons) full load
Speed: 30+ knots (34.5+ miles per hour)
Aircraft: 85

Cost: $2.5 billion

Albion class Assault Vessel

http://www.royal-navy.mod.uk/static/pages/data/gallery/full/1056120262f.jpg

Displacement: 18,500 tonnes
Length: 176m
Speed: 18 knots, range of 7000 nm.
Complement: 325
Sensors: 2 x Kelvin Hughes 1007 Radars Type 966 Surveillance Radar
Armament:
2 x Goalkeeper Close In Weapon System (CIWS),
Seagnat Decoy System
UAT Electronic Warfare System,
2 x 20mm close range guns
4 x Machine Gun positions
Propulsion 2 x 6.25MW & 2 x 1.56MW diesel generators driving two AC motors through twin shafts and a bowthrust unit, all operating at 6.6KV.
Military Lift: Up to 710 troops, 30 armoured all-terrain tracked carriers. Floodable well dock, with the capacity to take either four utility landing craft or shelter a hovercraft landing craft. Four smaller landing craft on davits, each capable of carrying 35 troops.

Cost: $1.2 billion

Padre class Battleship (modified Yamato)* (produced under license by Hudecia Industries)

Leaves 6 18" guns in two turrets as main armament.
Mk7 AEGIS system and 2 Mk 41 VLS systems installed where the old turret was. Modifications to the superstructure were also needed
9 6.1" 60 caliber guns in 3 triple turrets
16 5" 40 caliber Dual Purpose guns in 8 dual mounts.
5 Quad Harpoon Launchers
40 Tomahawks TASM/TALM Cruise missiles in 10 quad launchers
5 Quad Mk 50 ASROC Torpedo Launchers
8 20mm CIWS Point Defense mounts
Speed:32 knots
Crew:2500
Armor: 16.1" belt (inclined)
11.8" bulkheads
9.1" deck
25.5" turrent face
19.8" conning tower

Cost: $1.5 billion

Okpo class Destroyer Helicopter

This destroyer incorporates technology from the USN, European navies and Korean technology. It has landing room and hangar space for one helicopter of the buyer's choice.

Length = 135.5 m (444 ft)
Height = 14.2 m (46.5 ft)
Draft = 4.2 m (14 ft)
Speed = 30 knots
Range = 4,500nm at 18kts
Displacement = 3,885-3,900 tons full load
Crew = 286 persons
Gun = 1 OTO Melara 127mm(5 inch)/54 gun
CIWS = 2 Signaal 30mm goalkeeper
SSM = 8 McDonnell Douglas RGM-84D Harpoon, 2 quad canister launchers
SAM = 18 Raytheon RIM-7P Seasparrow, 1 Raytheon VLS - Mk.48 mod2
Torpedo = 6 Alliant TechSystems MK. 46 mod 5, 2 launcher - Mk.32 mod 5 triple 324mm(12.75 inch) tubes
Air Search Radar = Raytheon AN/SPS-49(V) 2D radar
Surface Search Radar = Signaal MW 08 Surface search radar
Navigation Radar = Daewoo SPS-95k Navigation radar
Fire Control Radar = 2 Signaal STIR 180 Fire control radar
IFF = AN/UPX-27K IFF
ECM = ARGOSystems AR 700
ECM = ARGOSystems APECS 2
Chaff = 4 CSEE DAGAIE MK.2 Chaff Launcher
Torpedo Decoy = SLQ-25 Nixie towed torpedo decoy
Combat system = BAe SEMA SSCS MK.7 combat system
Fire Control System = SWG-1A(v) Harpoon control system, MK.91 mod 3 Seasparrow fire control system
Sonar = ATLAS DSQS-21BZ Hull mounted Sonar

Cost: $500 million

Pacificat High Speed Sealift Transport* (produced under license by Hudecia Industries)

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/navalsc3-7.jpg

Naval militarized conversion of a civilian high speed catamaran ferry. Capable of operating in all but the shallowest of harbours, it is capable of disgorging an entire combat ready infantry batallion with armour support and rear eschelon elements in under 30 minutes thanks to its roll on roll off capability. Can be reconfigured to act as a field hospital or refugee transport. Armed with only .50 cal machine guns for littoral water self defense, chaff / flare dispensers, and Phlanx CIWS anti missile point defense, this ship requires armed naval escort while passing through hostile waters. Sea Sparrow vertical launchers can be added with fire control radars but at the expense of reduced tonnage carrying capacity. Normally ships of this class would not be operating independently of a naval operational group without escort.

Top speed @ full load = 37 knots (68 km/hr)
Top speed @ no load = 40 knots (74 km/hr)
Draft = 3.9 m
Range = 7500 km
Max Cargo Mass = 350 tonnes
Two Heliocopter pads

Armament
2 Phlanx 20mm Block 1B CIWS (Point Defense)

4 M2 .50 cal machine guns

4 Plessy Shield IR / Chaff dispenser batteries
in batteries of 6 tubes

Cargo Capacity

Space for 250 civilian vehicles, or cargo tonnage up to 350 tonnes. (which ever comes first)
900 combat troops
1 medium lift heliocopter hangar (EH-101 or equivalent)

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/navalsc3-7.jpg

Cost: $400 million

Province class Destroyer* (copyright Hudecia)

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Canadian_Province_Frigate.gif

Displacement: 5,500 - 6,000+ tons full load
Dimensions: 143.2 x 16.40 x 6.15 meters (470 x 54 x 20 feet)
Propulsion: 1 11,780 bhp Pielstick diesel, 2 GE LM2500 gas turbines, 47,494 shp, 2 shafts, 28+ knots
Crew: 200 (+45 transients)
Aviation: aft helicopter deck with Beartrap; room for 1 helicopter (preferably a Sea Stallion)
Hangar: room for 2 helicopters (preferably Blackhawk, UH-60s)
Radar: Signaal APAR 3D air search, Signaal SMART-L 3D air/surface search
Sonar: SQS-510+ hull, TIAPS towed array
Fire Control: APAR will double as fire control.
EW: CANEWS or replacement, 4 Plessey SHIELD decoy, SLQ-25 Nixie
Armament: 8 Harpoon, 2 DP gun, 1-2 20 mm Phalanx CIWS,
4 Mk.32 12.75 inch torpedo tubes firing Mk.46 Mod 5 torpedos, 6 12.7 mm MG, 8 Maritime Meteor

Cost: $350 million

Halifax Patrol Frigate FFH

http://gwardnet.d2g.com/mac/330e.jpg

Displacement: 5235 tons full load
Dimensions: 135.5 x 16.40 x 6.15 meters (444.5 x 54 x 20 feet)
Propulsion: 1 11,780 bhp Pielstick diesel, 2 GE LM2500 gas turbines, 47,494 shp, 2 shafts, 28+ knots
Crew: 180 (+45 transients)
Aviation: aft helicopter deck with Beartrap; 1 CH-124 Sea King helicopter
Hangar: one, for 1 CH-124
Radar: SPS-49 2-D air search, Sea Giraffe air/surface search
Sonar: SQS-510 hull, SQR-19(V) w/ CANTASS towed array
Fire Control: 2 Signaal STIR
EW: SLQ-501 intercept, SLQ-503 jammer, 4 Plessey SHIELD decoy, SLQ-25 Nixie
Armament: 8 Harpoon, 16 VL Sea Sparrow, 1 57 mm Bofors Mk.2 DP, 1 20 mm Phalanx CIWS, 4 Mk.32 12.75 inch torpedo tubes firing Mk.46 Mod 5 torpedos, 6 12.7 mm MG

Cost: $200 million

Ottawa class AOR (transport vessel)

http://gwardnet.d2g.com/mac/maccdale/509a.jpg

Displacement: 26,600 tons full load
Dimensions: 195 x 28 x 8.5 meters (639.8 x 91.9 x 27.9 feet)
Propulsion: 2 diesels, 1 shaft, 20 knots
Crew: 111 + 60 transient
Cargo: 6,500 tons fuel, 535 tons aviation fuel, 300 tons ammunition, 200 TEU containers, 2,500 square meters vehicle space
Aviation: 2 Sea King
Armament: 2 Phalanx CIWS

Cost: $100 million

There is a 5% discount for bulk purchases (over $5 billion) and a 10% discount for members of the LHS.

-Naval Aircraft and Helicopters-

UH-60H* (copyright Hudecia Industries)

To satisfy the demands of the Hudecian navy, this slightly modified Blackhawk helicopter was developed.

Crew: Two pilots, one flight engineer and one gunner (able to carry up to 9 fully equipped troops)
Powerplant: Two General Electric T700-GE-701C engines (1,630 shaft horsepower each)
Length: 15 meters
Rotor Diameter: 14.1 meters
Height: 4.0 meters
Performance Speed: 310 kph
Range: 445 nautical miles
Armament: 2 machine guns, 4 Harpoon missiles

Cost: $20 million

Merlin EH-101 Helicopter

Overall length 22.8 m
Fuselage length 19.5 m
Width (excluding rotor) 4.5 m
Overall height 6.6 m
Main rotor diameter 18.6 m
Tail rotor diameter 4 m
All-up weight 14,600 kg
Cruising speed 150 knots (280 km/hr)
Range (with standard tanks) over 1000 km
Rate of climb 10.16 m/sec
Engines 3 Rolls Royce Turbomeca RTM 322 02/8

Cost: $25 million

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Four province-class destroyers?

Four province-class destroyers?

For Province class destroyers would cost $1.4 billion, but only $1.19 billion after discounts.

Thank you for buying from Hudecia Industries, your vessels will be delivered within 24 hours.

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The Democratic Republic of teh Ninja's wishes to release this statement:

"After nearly 2 months of debate our National Congress approved the military spending of the following:
5 UH-60 Blackhawks=$100M
2 Province Class Destroyers=$700m
3 Halifax Patrol Frigate=$600M

TOTAL=$1,400,000,000

We await wire confirmation."

Teh ninjas, your order is confirmed, however, your total is reduced to $1 260 000 000 after a 10% discount for being one of the first 5 buyers to Hudecia Industries.

Vercettia would like to purchase:

10 Nimitz Class Carriers = $25 billion
20 Province Class Destroyers = $7 billion
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subtotal=$32 billion
discount=$3.2 billion
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TOTAL = $28,800,000,000

The money will be wired as soon as the order is confirmed.

Thank you shopping at Hudecia Industries. Due to the large volume of your order, it will take 1 RL week for complete delivery. However, to thank you for your patience an addition 5% discount will be given.

So your new total is $27 200 000 000.

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I would like to purchase 5 of your providence class destroyers please

The cost of 5 Province class destroyers is $1.75 billion before the discount. Your final total is $1 575 000 000. Expect delivery within 1 RL week.

Thank you.

"After carefull consideration, the Holy Empire Of Jacob Eberhart wishes to buy 5 Providence Class Destroyers @ 350,000,000$ each"
5 x 350,000,000

My nation is impressed with the naval technology offered but is more concerned with second wave reinforcement through advanced military sealift capacity. We lack the instantanous production capability of your shipyards but we do have some naval technology to trade. The specifications of a military conversion high speed catamaran for military sealift (project 'Pacificat') can be found at this site.

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/th-alsc.htm
http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-navalsc3.htm

I am proposing that in exchange for full production, arms export rights and technical specifications for this ship, we recieve equivalent credit of 2 billion dollars in equipment from your shipyards.

On a technical note, we have noticed that the antishipping Harpoon Missile is too large to be carried on any Blackhawk airframe. We currently are using navalized radar guided versions of the Hellfire missile, British Sea Skua for fastboat defense and Mk46 lightweight torpedos for ASW (antisubmarine warfare). Our declassified naval tactical information database can be found here.

http://www.sfu.ca/casr/101-0navy.htm

We were also considering purchasing a more powerful AGEIS capable ship as primary air defense destroyer such as the Arleigh Burke AGEIS destroyers. We will also seriously consider the purchase of Province Class frigates if they come upgraded with the next generation Enhanced Sea Sparrow missiles and EH-101 Merlin antisubmarine heliocopters.

We only seek to maintain our independence in troubled times.

Valin Clawskull
Minister of National Defense
Grand Duchy of Lyranis

Lyranis.

Your exchange sounds extremely worthwhile. Hudecia Industries is willing to consider the trade, and look forward to future technical exchanges.

CEO Hudecia Industries
Jack Armitage

OOC: I had some questions about the size of the Harpoon missile and the Blackhawk too, but it was kind of an afterthought. The Harpoon missile (from what I read) is about 5 m in length so it definately would cause some problems unless it was heavily modified. Modifying some Hellfire missiles would probably make more sense.

I'm also working on buying the right to enplace some advanced Maritime Meteor missiles onto the Province hulls (actually Hudecian Province Destroyers have them onboard but I was concerned about selling them because _Taiwan developed the technology - I'm hoping to work this out with him soon.)

OOC:
I did some more background work on the Harpoon missile and it should be able to fit on the UH-60 frame. It is presently used on the F-15 frame which is only about 4 m longer than the UH-60 frame. This is mostly because the Harpoon air-to-surface antishipping missile is slightly modified in length.

http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/missiles/wep-harp.html

I will indeed sell those Merlin EH-101s once I can dig up some stats on them.

OOC:
As in most independant countries, can I claim to have indigenious ammunition production capability? I'm thinking of all basic small and large caliber ammunition types (ie. 5.56mm, 7.62mm, 120mm HEAT, 84mm Carl Gustav). There would obviously be an exception for guided missiles. I could not find an equivalent ship design of the 'Pacificat' on any naval storefront. I assumed that I could use it and claim that since I found it on-line that my 'Defense Research Department' came up with it. Do you have any objections?

If I help you obtain the detailed plans of the EH-101 by spying or hacking, does that also count towards industrial espionage? :D

Here's the link to an EH-101 page.
http://www.naval-technology.com/projects/merlin/index.html


http://www.army-technology.com
http://www.airforce-technology.com
http://www.naval-technology.com

Are you also planning on expanding your storefront to include Army and Airforce? I'm currently undergoing full initial capital investment.

OOC:
You can claim to have your own indiginous ammo production. You are over 1 month old, that means you can probably begin to go into some serious production.

That "Province class destroyer " I'm selling is a modified version of one that I found online. It was supposed to replace the RCN's old Tribal class destroyers but it didn't get past the idea phase. So I modified some stats on it and claim it as my own. So I don't have any objections for you to do the same with the "Pacificat", just change some key stats on it. i.e.. we add on some new anti-air tech and all.

I tell you what, we can open up a joint industries storefront for Army and Airforce.

I'm also working on buying the right to enplace some advanced Maritime Meteor missiles onto the Province hulls (actually Hudecian Province Destroyers have them onboard but I was concerned about selling them because _Taiwan developed the technology - I'm hoping to work this out with him soon.)

Dear Sir -

CK-ROC Systems is willing to offer a long-term production license to Hudecia Naval Storefronts for the Maritime Meteor, conditional on a 25% royalty for Maritime Meteors sold on your vessels.

Richard Branson
CEO of CK-ROC

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To: CK-ROC CEO Richard Branson

Hudecia Industries accepts the offer by CK-ROC under the condition that warships produced for the governments of Lyrandis and Hudecia will be exempt from the requirements. This deal will be with Hudecia Industries solely, should bankruptcy or merger occur, a new arragement will be required with the new company.

A broader agreement on other missile components would also be welcomed by this company.

Jack Armitage
CEO Hudecia Industries

We would like 2 Halifax Patrol Frigate FFH for $400 Million.

Japanese Antarctica, your order is confirmed. Thank you.

20 Province Class Destroyers Please. Money wired on confirmation.

20 * 350 000 000 = 7 000 000 000 : subtotal
6 650 000 000 : after 5% discount for bulk order

Thank you Cottonmouth for your purchase. An additional feature to the Province class destroyers is the 8 Maritime Meteor Missiles that will be added on thanks to CK-ROC industries.

CEO of Hudecia Industries
Jack Armitage

To: CK-ROC CEO Richard Branson

Hudecia Industries accepts the offer by CK-ROC under the condition that warships produced for the governments of Lyrandis and Hudecia will be exempt from the requirements. This deal will be with Hudecia Industries solely, should bankruptcy or merger occur, a new arragement will be required with the new company.

A broader agreement on other missile components would also be welcomed by this company.

Jack Armitage
CEO Hudecia Industries

Branson signs on the dotted line.

Branson signs on the dotted line.

Armitage opens an account to begin paying _Taiwan.

Question: How many Nimitz Class Carriers do you have available for almost Immediate delivery? You well know the reason for the request.

Also would you be interested in offering the Padre(Yamato) Class AEGIS Battleships through your store?

Padre(Yamato) Class Battleships (AEGIS) First turret forward of superstructure removed along with most secondary and AA guns and replaced with some modern tech. Superstructure modified to resemble Ticongeroga Class crusier(on a much larger scale).
http://www.chuckhawks.com/yamato.jpg
(pic is before modifications to add AEGIS components)
Leaves 6 18" guns in two turrets as main armament.
Mk7 AEGIS system and 2 Mk 41 VLS systems installed where the old turret was. Modifications to the superstructure were also needed
9 6.1" 60 caliber guns in 3 triple turrets
16 5" 40 caliber Dual Purpose guns in 8 dual mounts.
5 Quad Harpoon Launchers
40 Tomahawks TASM/TALM Cruise missiles in 10 quad launchers
5 Quad Mk 50 ASROC Torpedo Launchers
8 20mm CIWS Point Defense mounts
Speed:32 knots
Crew:2500
Armor: 16.1" belt (inclined)
11.8" bulkheads
9.1" deck
25.5" turrent face
19.8" conning tower

t-gram me prices you think or improvements. Its my idea but I don't have the time to run a store.

POJ: Currently I would have 4 Nimitz class carriers available for sale.

I would be very interested in the Padre class battleship. Would you like me to sell the warship and give you a percent of the profits?

POJ: Currently I would have 4 Nimitz class carriers available for sale.

I would be very interested in the Padre class battleship. Would you like me to sell the warship and give you a percent of the profits?

I'll take all of the carriers *money wired*

and yes, lets do that with the battleships. We can figure %'s and price based on what you offer now by telegram.

I altered the stats to reflect a change I made later that lowered the number of harpoon lauchers so that the Tomahawks would fit.

Can i have
5 UH-60 Blackhawks=$100M
2 Province Class Destroyers=$700m
3 Halifax Patrol Frigate=$600M

TOTAL=$1,400,000,000
:lol:

Can i have
5 UH-60 Blackhawks=$100M
2 Province Class Destroyers=$700m
3 Halifax Patrol Frigate=$600M

TOTAL=$1,400,000,000


Confirmed. Your order will be delivered within 1 RL week. Thank you.

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We would like 10 Halifax Patrol Frigate FFH at $2 Billion

Your order is confirmed Japanese Antarctica, delivery will occur within 1 RL week.

We would like to buy:
5x Nimitz class carrier=12.5b
5 Uh 60H Blackhawks=100m

Money will be wired imediatley

Umm... sorry you don't have enough money to make this purchase. Your nation is too young. If you want to buy something smaller be my guest though.

How about 1 carrier and two blackhawks?

Ok .. I'll do that.

$2.54 Billion is your total. Thank you for shopping at HI. Your purchase will be delivered in 2 RL days.

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We would like 5 Ottawa class AOR for $500 Million please. Also, please send 2 Pacificat High Speed Sealift Transport for $800 Million. Total is $1.3 Billion. Money will be wired at confirmation of order.

Japanese Antarctica, your order is confirmed. Expect arrival of your order within 3 days.

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The Commonwealth would like to purchase 20 Pacificat High Speed Sealift Transports for a total of $8 billion. We would be allowed to modify the design to suit our needs, correct? Not production, but just modifications. Thank you and money will be wired upon confirmation.

Granzi your order is confirmed. You also receive a 5% discount because you made an order of more than $5 billion.

So your new total is $7.6 billion.

Expect delivery within a week. you make make any modifications you like as long as it is not for resale. Thank you.

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The Holy Empire of SoonerGlory in an attempt to establish a sufficent armed navy has decided to purchase:
10 Nimitz
50 Albion
100 Pacificat High Speed Transports
100 Province Class Destroyers
150 Halifax Patrol Frigate
1000 UH-69H
The cost is 210,000,000,000.
Money will be wired upon cofermation of order.

A Nimitz for $2.5 billion.......not possible/realistic. I would advise you to do some research on RL prices and then update yours accordingly. The Nimitz's you're selling for only 2.5 must be made of wood/rust-prone steel and they're armament would have to be spitball guns.

UV... I have seen other nations selling them for less... While this may not be the most proper way of figuring new prices I did do some more research before I posted, thank you.

Estimated Cost of Nimitz-class carrier= $4.5 billion

I estimate that the profit margin that is earned on building carrier is about 20-30%. Cost for building infrastructure 10-20%. Cost for materials and other assorted costs account for the rest. (I assume that the cost of aircraft was separate from the estimate I found)

So let me clarify:
1)I do not sell aircraft on the carrier, the carrier is empty.

2) Current costs for carriers do not consider mass production. All current carriers were/are produced individually, so the cost of building the carrier includes the cost of building/modifying infrastructure to build the carrier. If you are constantly producing the carriers the cost of the infrastructure becomes less and less relative to each carrier.

3) Companies that produce carriers make huge profit margins off them. I do not make any profit off the carriers. It attracts customers to my storefront who then buy other warships as well.

Does that clarify how I came to the current price?

Hmm... SoonerGlory...

I'll sell you the equipment, but I am concerned about the economic state of your nation. Be sure that you do not make any large purchases in the next little while.

Our payment schedule will extend over the 3 RL week shipping period. Each RL day you will pay $30 billion until the full sum is paid. As you pay, your order will arrive piece by piece.

Sorry for any inconvenience.

OOC: I know you haven't bought much since you were created, so I'll sell you the warships, but any nation buying $210 billion worth of equipment merits a double-take. I would rather if we worked out a long-term sale so that it isn't godmodding. If you have another nation supporting you monitarily I'll back off (but it is to ensure that I don't get accused of godmodding).

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After careful consultation with the Fleet Admiralty, Ministry of National Defense, and Ministry of the Treasury, the Grand Duchy of Lyranis has selected your organization to fulfill its objective naval force component.

3 - Albion Class Assault Vessels
8 - Province Class Destroyers
15 - Halifax Class Frigates
4 - Ottawa Class AOR
3 - Pacificat High Speed Sealift transports
50 - EH-101 Merlin Medium Lift / ASW Heliocopters.

This capital investment is only to guarentee our national sovereignty over our territorial waters with the option for expeditionary capacity abroad. We will wire the final installment of $12.25 billion dollars upon delivery.

Valin Clawskull
Minister of National Defense
Grand Duchy of Lyranis

Lyranis your order is confirmed. Does your total include the $2 billion allowance that was given to you in exchange for the technology agreement?

Expect delivery in 2-3 RL days

Lyranis your order is confirmed. Does your total include the $2 billion allowance that was given to you in exchange for the technology agreement?

Expect delivery in 2-3 RL days

No, it did not contain the $2 billion 'in store' credit. The balance of the $10.25 billion will be wired upon complete delivery.

Valin Clawskull
Minister of National Defense
Grand Duchy of Lyranis

Thank you.

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