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Showing that Egypstan is not afraid to use its nuclear weapons, it is demonstrating its nuclear weapons.

On the nuclear submarine Waterdog, they neared a small, uninhabited "test" island, which Egypstan build a small town, with no people living on it.

Within moments of Waterdog stopping 10 miles off the coast of the small 3x4 mile island, the surfaced, launched a single nuclear missile, and submerged again, leaving the area quickly.

The test was a success: the "town" was completely destroyed, hitting only 4.2 feet from its target. The island, a complete waste, the beaches, glass.

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OOC:

Oh, no.

You're dealing with some dangerous stuff, you know.

Egypstan, you are testing our patience. We demand you demobilize, and deactivate your nuclear weapons. You have not attacked a nation yet, but we fear you will, and we will not stand for it! Demobilize, and deactivate, now.

With the launch and detonation of a nuclear warhead, Egypstan is now considered a growing threat to world safety and stability. We request that you cease from continuing your use of nuclear weapons, or we may be forced to stop you.

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President Kate Juno
Federal Republic of Aequatio

We are not afraid to use force, and we warn you any further attacks on anyone wil lresult in a massive military attack on Egypstan. We have ordered 10 Typoon Class submarines armed with heavy convetional missiles armed at your nuclear launch sites 1st and 3rd air strike brigades are ready for launch from 4 Red Dragon carriers off our coast. We warn you again do not push us any further!

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General Omniushi
President of World Superpower of Lands of Ages

You're going to far Egypstan. This can still be resolved peacefully. We have all had problems in the past, but sometimes we need to move one. Killing millions of innocent people will not repay any damages done to you in the past. As a peaceloving nation I strongly urge you to stop these tests and demobilize. For the sanctity of the planet, end this.

-President Branam of Jarridia

We request no nations attack Egypstan at this time. This will only give them reason to attack.

It is well-known that the nation of Egypstand possesses nuclear weapons. It is also well-known that the use of nuclear weapons will create such unspeakable destruction. Thus, why bother with this demonstration? Is this an action borne of arrogance? Or perhaps you are trying to intimidate the world with your nuclear prowess. Well, hear this:

The world will not be cowed.

--JARED BRINTON, Duke of Preinst, National Security Advisor for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka

Secret IC:
3rd Fleet will be in position in 1 RL hour

No one has a right to attack us. We have simple mobilized and tested a nuclear missile. If you attack us, you will be viewed as an imperialist. Do not attack us.

And, no, we shall not demobilize and deactivate.

We find this very disturbing. We will be watching you.

The Burnsian Desert is shocked and appauled (sp?) at this blatant act of arrogance and blind lunacy. Yes, we have nuclear weapons. No, we have never used them outside of testing. If this goes further, we will have no choice but to completely and fully pacify Egyptstan.

OOC: [/standard response]

As a peaceful, isolated nation not a part of the UN, Kainela feels it wouldn't be too much to request of you all to be very cautious in your military actions concerning Egypstan and their newly developed nuclear weapons, as we would like no harm to be done to our peaceful haven for Liberty. Clearly, emotions are running high and you all feel threatened by Egypstan's recent developments; However, we would like to continue to request that this be dealt with in the most peaceful, calm way. Nuclear weaponry is a global issue with global consequences.

Kainela, if only it was that either with Egypstan. Unfortunately, they are not that easy to deal with, as we have learned in the past.

The military has begun exercises inside the nation, getting into formations, and preparing even more for what was being planned. The anti-missile system came online with the recent threats, as the 15,000 F-22's, F-16's, MiG-29's, and various other jets began missions over Egypstan and its coastline.

The navy began to patrol the Med Sea., but did not attack any ships.

Any attack on Egypstan, or its military, will be considered an act of war. Any invasion into Egypstan, an act of imperialism. We will retaliate if attacked.

To prove our point on the retaliation, three more undisclosed nuclear silos are being activated, and five more nuclear submarines are going into the Med Sea.

OIS Command
SatRec Monitor Room
Valhalla Command Center
Transnapastain

“Holy God! Colonel, SatRec picked up a nuclear detonation!” called the young officer “We’re getting the same reports from the ISA in Kaukolastan and the SPA in Nailiak

The Colonel leaped from his chair and ran to the monitor

“Show me, main screen.” he said

The Satellite imagine showed a small island, a white flash, and devastation.

“Where was that?” asked the Colonel

“Small, uninhabited island, our records say, it listed as an Egyptstan holding, sir

“I see, well, get MADAE control on the line, ask them to stand ready, if there’s another launch, we’ll want to be ready.” Said the Colonel “Oh, and wake up the General, He’ll want to know about this one.”

“Right away sir!”

"What the hell caused this...and even more important...what is thier target?" the colonel wondered to himself

Egypstan has our support. We are prepare to launch terrorist attacks upon any nation who attacks them. And note, we do have nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons retrieved from key supporters.

T/W, this is not your fight. You have no place in this. We request T/W takes back their threats.

While ViZion requests you remove your support, we DEMAND that you do so. If you are foolish enough to attack us we will never cease to hunt you.

We learned much since I used Nukes in battle and it's not anything to look forward to. I demand you demobilize and deactivate your nuclear weapons at once or i 'll send troops to do it for you.

Your choose.....

He glasses a small uninhabbited island, and people demand he disarm; surely there must be more to their reasoning?

Maybe it is best that Kanuckistan has never bothered to advertise, but if ever accused of possessing a quarter million nuclear weapons, we will not deny it.

OOC:
Most of those being superclean tactical 'subnukes'; 0.1 to 5 kilotons in yeild. A relativly cheap alternative when you can't afford to field a proper army dew to other expendatures.

He glasses a small uninhabbited island, and people demand he disarm; surely there must be more to their reasoning?

Maybe it is best that Kanuckistan has never bothered to advertise, but if ever accused of possessing a quarter million nuclear weapons, we will not deny it.

OOC:
Most of those being superclean tactical 'subnukes'; 0.1 to 5 kilotons in yeild. A relativly cheap alternative when you can't afford to field a proper army dew to other expendatures.


OOC: We don't want him to use nukes on other nations.
That's why were asking him to dissarm

He glasses a small uninhabbited island, and people demand he disarm; surely there must be more to their reasoning?

Maybe it is best that Kanuckistan has never bothered to advertise, but if ever accused of possessing a quarter million nuclear weapons, we will not deny it.

OOC:
Most of those being superclean tactical 'subnukes'; 0.1 to 5 kilotons in yeild. A relativly cheap alternative when you can't afford to field a proper army dew to other expendatures.


OOC: We don't want him to use nukes on other nations.
That's why were asking him to dissarm


He nuked his own island not another nation!!

He glasses a small uninhabbited island, and people demand he disarm; surely there must be more to their reasoning?

Maybe it is best that Kanuckistan has never bothered to advertise, but if ever accused of possessing a quarter million nuclear weapons, we will not deny it.

OOC:
Most of those being superclean tactical 'subnukes'; 0.1 to 5 kilotons in yeild. A relativly cheap alternative when you can't afford to field a proper army dew to other expendatures.


OOC: We don't want him to use nukes on other nations.
That's why were asking him to dissarm


He nuked his own island not another nation!!

HE MAY ATTACK ANOTHER NATION!

He glasses a small uninhabbited island, and people demand he disarm; surely there must be more to their reasoning?

Maybe it is best that Kanuckistan has never bothered to advertise, but if ever accused of possessing a quarter million nuclear weapons, we will not deny it.

OOC:
Most of those being superclean tactical 'subnukes'; 0.1 to 5 kilotons in yeild. A relativly cheap alternative when you can't afford to field a proper army dew to other expendatures.


OOC: We don't want him to use nukes on other nations.
That's why were asking him to dissarm


He nuked his own island not another nation!!

HE MAY ATTACK ANOTHER NATION!

You do not know this. We haven't. What is wrong with some military exercises and testing a nuclear weapon? You're going to invade me over that? Then do so, and see what happens.

In the Command Center of the HES Solidarity, flagship of the GDMO 3rd Fleet, Admiral Mulkwiss hung up the phone.

"Captain Jarvis," he called.

A graying man of medium height behind him replied, "Yes, sir?"

"Have air patrols working the Egypstan borders constantly. Keep an eye on them and be sure to note major movements. Make sure not to trespass into their territory. We don't need to be the fuse that lights this bomb. Egypstan could crush our tiny force."

"Yes, sir."

"Oh, and send out anti-submarine patrols, too. The last thing we need is for some sub to come surfacing in the middle of the fleet."

"Understood, sir."

With a sigh, Mulkwiss said, "Alright, good. Dismissed," and smartly saluted to the captain who returned the gesture.

Soon afterwards...
The 249th Naval Air Recon Squadron (NES-249) with its complement of 4 E-2C planes took off from the HES Solidarity to begin patrols. It will trade off with the squadron based aboard the HES Valiant so that patrols can be conducted on a round-the-clock basis.

Furthermore, SH-60R Strike Hawks (upgraded from SH-60B Seahawks) have commenced sonar and active sub surveillance actions.

Also, the GDMO would not invade your country for those reasons, but we have the right to position a military presence there to keep an eye on your military actions.

From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR XF Forces

All concerned nations:

Be advised that the King has ordered a naval blockade of Egyptstan. We have established our Carrier Fleets across a 235 mile front just 2 miles out of Egyptstanian waters. We will not permit any ship of Egyptstan to enter Mediterranean international waters.

Updates to follow.

HE MAY ATTACK ANOTHER NATION!

You know what? So could we; and not only do we have alot more nukes, but we'd not hesitate to use them. Kanuckistani military doctrine calls for the employment of battlefield nuclear weapons in any major engagment or against massed and/or high value enemy millitary assets.

But then, that's why we've spent several fortunes developing the negligible-fallout superclean subnuke; any invading army will be met with tac nukes, and we'd rather our children not have to worry about doubling as their own night light.

From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR XF Forces

All concerned nations:

Be advised that the King has ordered a naval blockade of Egyptstan. We have established our Carrier Fleets across a 235 mile front just 2 miles out of Egyptstanian waters. We will not permit any ship of Egyptstan to enter Mediterranean international waters.

Updates to follow.

To: Gen. Strickland, CMDR XF Forces
From: Minister Bob McBob, Department of External Affairs, Kanuckistan.

We have to advise against this action. A blockade is an act of war, allbeit a relaticly minor one; it can yeild nothing but an escilation in tensions and bring armed conflict all the much closer to reality.

OOC:
No, really; a blockade is an act of war iRL.

OIS Command
Conference Room 002
Valhalla Command Center
Transnapastain

“Okay people, tell me what we’ve got.” said General John Davis, head of the Office of Internal Security.

“Sir.” said Colonel Becker, Chief of Foreign Intelligence “here’s the basic rundown”

((OOC forgive me, I’m not really sure how much time has passed, you can correct me on this))

“-Over the past week, we noticed Egyptstan troop movement in massive numbers. Men, and armor have been made ready
-A massive surface fleet became active and moved into the Med Sea
*Please note we suspect massive submarine activations
-Yesterday, A nuclear missile, fired from an unknown point impacted and detonated on a small island, we’re lovingly calling Glassland for the time being, reducing what we believe to be a mock village to rubble. The island is currently a holding of Egyptstan
*This furthers the sub activation theory, the missile was not ballistic, no surface ships were present, and SatRec thinks it may have spotted a surfacing sub, unknown type, contact was too brief
- Recently, military exercises have begun all over the nations, formation, maneuvers, and the like, we noticed the activation of a possible anti-missile system, and what may be the preparation of aircraft to as interceptors, makes include F-22’s F-16’s and MiG-29’s, also Egyptstan naval patrols in the med sea were stepped up.
- Several nations have asked Egyptstan to deactivate and disarm. Monte Ozarka has moved their 3rd fleet into position, and Xerapth seems to be moving into blockade formation round the nation.”

“That last part is correct, we received a telegram from them a few minutes ago, saying their King has ordered a blockade of Egyptstan.” said Colonel Fires, head of Regional Intelligence

“I see,” said Davis “Well, send a rebuke to Egyptstan, something pleasant that wont piss them off. Then, keep an Eye (meaning a Satellite) on it, and, prepare an SR-94 for an over flight of the nation, but don’t have it launch. Also, look over the nation, my bet is they have missile silos prepared, so, try and find them, if you do find them, secretly send the information to the Xerapth Fleet blockading the nation. Unless they attack someone, we don’t want tog et involved here…we may not even want to get involved even then, oh, and, alert the Chancellor to what’s going on.” He added in, almost as an after thought.

“Yes sir” said the officers, and the meeting disbanded

After carefully watching this situation unfold, Credonian advisors have demanded that i respond to this growing international threat posed by Egypstan. Therefore, Credonia DEMANDS that Egypstan ceases the production of nuclear weapons, demobilize, and cease proceeding with any plans to go to war with any nation or else Credonia will be forced to take military action. Your actions are destabilizing to world peace, and so long as Credonia is around, we cannot and will not allow that to happen. We have all see what nuclear weapons can do when in the wrong hands, and Credonia will not fail to take those weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of evildoers by force.

After carefully watching this situation unfold, Credonian advisors have demanded that i respond to this growing international threat posed by Egypstan. Therefore, Credonia DEMANDS that Egypstan ceases the production of nuclear weapons, demobilize, and cease proceeding with any plans to go to war with any nation or else Credonia will be forced to take military action. Your actions are destabilizing to world peace, and so long as Credonia is around, we cannot and will not allow that to happen. We have all see what nuclear weapons can do when in the wrong hands, and Credonia will not fail to take those weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of evildoers by force.

It strikes me that all these nations are wrongfully demanding anything of Egypstan, they have done naught but test a nuclear device on an island within their claimed lands. This is all done within their own governing rights. You are breeching sovreign rights by demanding anything of Egypstan and the führer wishes you all would see such blatant hypocrasy to an end.

Really, they have as much right to test their nuclear arsenal as Iraqstan has, if you move to stop them I fear that the national socialist empire will not be held responsible for any aide given to the illegaly targetted victims of Egypstan. Once more you are breaching the sovreign rights of a nation who is testing their weapons within their own governing sphere you have no right to demand anything of them.

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Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Iraqstani Information Minister

Egyptstan has proven to be a menace to the international community, and this further threat is a step too far.

it seems to me the only people being a 'threat' to world peace are those running around demanding things of a nation that is within it's sovreign rights to perform military maneuvers and missile tests within it's own borders. I guess that the hypocrasy of the masses is ignored when the nation is smaller eh? Really, you should think before you open that hole you call a mouth.

Egypstan is well within their sovreign rights to do what they have done to date inside their borders, if you cannot accept that then deal with it and move along. All you see here is a nation flexing it's muscles.

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Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf
Iraqstani Information Minister

((ooc note, hes not too much smaller, hes 1.562 billion, so, hes bigger than Cerdonia me...though, i havent demanded anything of them, its just, when people just up prep their military for war, then detonate nukes, you gotta kinda wonder whats goin on, and keep an eye on them))

(ooc: and that being said, people tend to forget that nations have a little thing called sovreign rights, they are a sovreign country and since Egypstan hasnt done anything to it's citizenry I fail to see why a mobalisation and a nuclear detonation is any grounds for credonia or you to attack. My posture is entirely IC and wont be changing by ooc stuff so...uh...forgot why I wrote this :P)

(ooc: yeah i say leave the kid along if he doesnt hurt us but my post warned him that if he does he'll pay dearly ;) )

((i dont disagree with you that an attack on them is out of line, but, please note, im not attacking at all, merely keeping an eye of the situation, truthfuly, the people who have made overy moves are Xerph and MO))

(ooc yeah saw you werent after I posted and re-read yer post. Was too lazy to change my post so ;) :P Either way we shouldnt be cluttering this up with ooc talk any more than we need too. hehe)

Dyelli Beybi wishes to congratulate Egypstan on it's successful test and welcome it into the International nuclear community. In this troubled world we live in, nuclear weapons are frequently the only deterent we have against beligerent Nations intend on forcing their own views of morality on the rest of the world.

(OOC: Dyelli Beybi is regarded Internationally as 'unsafe with nuclear weapons', in fact, we're not supposed to have any...thats for those of you who havn't encountered us already.)

ooc: I'm only moving b/c, well...when a country begins mass mobilization and starts to detonate nuclear weapons, it's a cause for concern. Trust me, I'm not there to provoke war or give an ultimatum (look at my previous posts). I'm there purely (right now) to keep an eye on things. After all, Egypstan's about 5x as big as me and could squash me like a bug w/his immense nuclear arsenal.

I understand the concept of sovereign rights, but I also have the right to take precautionary measures. Heck, my fleet is in international waters, NOT enforcing a blockade of any sort. Until Egypstan attacks (or threatens to attack) someone, I will be disturbed by his actions but will not take any military action.

Secret IC:
After the recent diffusion (practically) of the Challenger 2 crisis, all available military satellites are observing Egypstan, looking for troop movements and for movements of its nuclear arsenal.

(OOC) Actually you're quite safe. You're a part of the FKC.

Whether or not stating to Egypstan that we wish he would disarm is hypocritical, it is in the best interests of the international community to do so. Nuclear Weapons are a frightful thing, and yes, Jarridia has some. But we have yet to use them. I never demanded that Egypstan stop, I only asked him kindly and urged him to do it, but never told him. Even if you aren't on the best terms with a person or nation, its always best to display kindness and an upstanding nature.

Though these tests have yet to harm people, it still causes a dire concern to many, especially those who have crossed Egypstan in the past. I firmly believe in not telling people what to do. For what powerdo I have that gives me the right to do so? I merely stay within my bounds of the power vested in me by the voters of Jarridia.

I hold respect for all nations, no matter how lowly and despicable their actions are. Egypstan, I sincerely ask that you stop your use of nuclear weapons.

-President Branam of Jarridia

OOC: Um.. why moan about this person when there are about 40000 other nations with nuclear weapons, and are more than happy to use them, priorities people

Err, congratulations ... may you be responsible with those weapons of demi-Gods.

Xeraph, we demand you remove your blockage from our waters. The Sea is not your backyard, it is INTERNATIONAL WATERS. You cannot legally keep a nation from entering Int'l Water. We are not even at war!

Again, REMOVE THE BLOCKADE.

And, as Iraqistan stated, I am well within soveign right to do what I am doing. We will not demobilize. Any attacks upon us, or no removal of Xeraph's blockade, will be viewed as an act of imperialism and/or war.

Again, Xeraph, remove your blockade. And we will not demobilize, and we DEFINATELY will not disarm, destroy our nuclear weapons, and cease building them.

Due to an increasing threat from nations of an invasion, we are calling upon our entire military to prepare for this possible war. All nuclear silo's are being activated, and the other 64 nuclear subs are preparing. We are having another 5,000 F-22's and F/A-18's patrol our borders.

The navy already in the Sea are not coming back to Egypstan. They are prepared to launch an assault on any invading nation. The navy within the blockade is prepared to assault the blockade, and we will attack Xeraph's nation, too, if he refuses to remove it.

Xeraph, you will be starting this war if you refuse to remove the blockade.

Press Release: May 17, 2004
(New Verum, Atlantica, RNC)

Due to recent events in the international community, the RNC Departemnt of Armament has pushed through rush legislation to set in motion the swift development of a ground and spaced based Anti-Ballistic Missle system. The project is expected to take 3 years to complete and will insure the national security of the republic and its allies. The Republic of National Commonwealth will also begin a feasibilty study on the in-house development of a nuclear program. The study will focus on power generation, but will also investigate neutron bomb development.

To foster peaceful international relationships, RNC is holding an exquisite GALA (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3179438#3179438) at its new capitol complex, welcoming all nations. Security will have a substantial presence at all events, and leaders as well as representatives from nations are invited.

R.N.C., Department of Armament

In the interest of world peace, we implore the government of Xeraph to remove its blockade of Egypstan. The last thing that we need is war between large, well-armed, and nuclear-capable nations. So far, Egypstan has done nothing outside of its rightful sovereign powers, and to impose a blockade at this point would be dangerous and overreacting.

Please take this to heart,
--WILHELM VON NIEMANN, Baron of Kaligny, Minister of Defense for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka

At this time ViZion highly suggests all nations keep from threatening invasions of Egypstan. ViZion has worked with Egypstan as allies and enemies since it was a new nation. They do not take well to threats of invasion.

We also would like to see Xeraph's blockade removed at this time. The blockade is only promoting a possible nuclear war, which we would not like to see.

ViZion is sending some of its forces to patrol Egypstan's coast and borders from the air and sea. We are there to keep the two sides forces away from eachother. If you launch an attack on the other side, ViZion will be forced to act on their defence, as you could be starting a nuclear war. We request all nuclear weapons be deactivated.

As a sign of good will, ViZion is deactivating its nuclear arsonal. If there are nations refusing to deactivate within the next 4 RL hrs, ViZion will be reactivating, as it shows that the situation is extremely unstable.

Thank you.

Egypstan will ONLY comply if all other forces completely demobilize, and leave Egypstan to its own. If nations continue to bother us about our mobilization and our nuclear weapons testing, we will not comply.

ViZion, please remove your forces from our coast line and borders. You always try to act as the international police, but you are only making this worse.

Egypstan's military is prepared to launch a full-out attack on any nation who takes one step on our soil without our consent, as that is an act of war!

Xeraph, you have 5 hours to remove your blockade. If you refuse to move them, this is an act of war, and we take that very seriously. We DEMAND YOU REMOVE IT.

Egypstan we urge you to disarm your nuclear armada before a war breaks out between two super-weapon armed nations. If not New Vuhifellhas given enough support and has gotton enough support to go in and pacify your launch sites and augsilary Air Bases, Using the 7th Fleet...

Note that war will not be declared until nuclear weapons are either launched at borders or heartlands of other nations or NV is even more threatened by your continued presence with nuclear weapons.

ViZion will remove its forces from, your borders.

ViZion. Good move.

New Vuhifell, you, like all the others, have no right to threaten an invasion. Do not threaten us. We are well within our sovereign rights. We have not killed anyone, nor attacked another nation. We highly suggest you do not attack us. You guys, the one threatening to invade, are the ones who people should worry about. YOU are then ones who threaten peace with your invasions. You will use any excuse to attack those different from your self. You will use any excuse to gain land, power, and money. We will not have any of your nations threats!

You nations also are weak... you threaten, but do not act. If you were any truely strong nation, you would act instead of blab away.

We will not deactivate, now that you have threatened us. Do not make a move you will regret.

We of Ybronneb believe that Egyptstan is in the right. We are but a new nation, and wish for no quarrel, but just because a country tests nukes doesn't make it evil. I agree with Neo Krysten who said, and I quote:

Um.. why moan about this person when there are about 40000 other nations with nuclear weapons, and are more than happy to use them, priorities people!

Do you UN people always go around preventing the testing of nukes? Is that even its goal? It is because of the UN's actions in situations like this that Ybronneb refuses to apply to join the UN. Most countries of the UN have nukes too, but you don't see them declaring war on eachother!

We of Ybronneb suggest that you continue backing away from a conflict. It will do more harm than good.

Supreme Lord, Ruler, and Dictator of Ybronneb,
Edwin Do'Calamar

The High Council of The Gun Brothers sees no reason for Egyptstan to not have nuclear weapons. We are a member of the nuclear community ourselves, and feel that Egyptstan will show the same restraint that we have, in the matter of handling a nuclear stockpile.





OOC: Before anyone screams Godmod on me having nuclear weapons, feel free to check out my nation. My original join date was May 31, 2003.

Ybronneb and The Gun Brothers, your support is greatly appreciated!

We feel we have shown great restraint in dealing with this, but we cannot handle these threats much longer.

We demand all nations stop their threats and leave Egypstan alone! We have harmed no one, attacked no nation! You continue to threaten us, and we are soon to snap. We warn you, BACK OFF.

We are well within our sovereign rights! You have no rights to threaten us, to tell us was we can and cannot do!

You're in this for greed... power, money, land! And it makes us that much easier of a target being Egypstanians, because we're different from you!

We ask that all threats be stopped towards Egypstan. They are within their rights to do what they are doing, even though we're all suspicious of his recent actions.

We cannot do anything. ViZion, along with many other nations, have dealt with Egypstan before. We know how they are. We ask that all nations stand down their threats, and deactivate if Egypstan is willing to do the same. Egypstan never have been able to take threats. You all should be feeling lucky right now that we aren't in a nuclear war now - If it was their old government, there would be millions dead by now.

We ask that both sides come to the table to talk this over. Any attacks upon Egypstan, and ViZion will answer by military force, as we will not nations start a nuclear war.

We will also respond with military actions against Egypstan, if they launch an attack to start this war.

Again, we ask that both sides cease their threats, deactivate their nuclear weapons, and come to the table for peace talks.

ViZion is willing to host this peace confrence.

ViZion, we were willing to deactivate before. But New Vuhifell comes a'rumpin in here, thinking he's all big, and threatening us. We will not have it! The only way, and I mean ONLY WAY, Egypstan will come to the table and deactivate is that ALL NATIONS make a formal statement, apologizing for their threats, admit their wrong doing, deactivate their own weapons, and demobilize their military. THEN we will deactive our nuclear weapons and attend peace talks.

But, if one more threat is made to us, we will never deactive at your will's desire! And, we promise that we will not sleep until the aggressors last breath is taken away from them.

We are not afraid to defend our selves, and these continued threats are soon to be considered an act of war if you do not stop!

We of Ybronneb thank you, ViZion, for realizing the stupidity of it all. We agree that peace should be sought, this time at least.

Supreme Lord, Ruler, and Dictator of Ybronneb,
Edwin Do'Calamar

Ybronneb, there's got to be someone who keeps the two sides apart. ViZion is known for doing that.

And we know if Egypstan is messed with much more, he WILL attack.

So, no comment? Do you guys accept my demand, or not?

We would like to see both sides agree to these terms, so that peace can be made. We do not want to see a nuclear war happen here.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has issued a statement on behalf of King Hajime of the Constitutional Monarchy of Suna Kaya:

The sole purpose of a nuclear weapon is mass destruction. Fallout from a nuclear blast renders the nearby land, sea, and air useless at best, and toxic at worst, for decades. Usage of nuclear weapons is within a nation's rights, but it does pose a military and ecological threat to nearby and downwind nations, respectively. Testing a nuclear weapon is a sign that a nation has the ability to easily decimate another nation. This is a clear threat to nations the nuclear nation can reach by air or ship. Nuclear weapons are not to be taken lightly.

Suna Kaya applauds Egypstan's technological abilities but denounces its nuclear weapons program. We do not demand Egypstan disarm, but we strongly recommend it realize the extreme responsibility that must be taken in order to properly take care of such destructive weapons.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs believes that it is uncalled for to have all nations that do not support Egypstan totally demilitarize in order to begin peace talks. This would leave many nations completely defenseless to attack. Requiring many nations to completely demobilize to end this disagreement is too much to ask of any sovereign nation.

The nation of Suna Kaya is willing to house some of the nuclear waste Egypstan has created only if Egypstan reduces its requirements for peace talks. We welcome the response of Egypstan on our peaceful offer.

We feel that due to nations threatening us, they owe us their completely demobilization, as we have not threatened them at all. We test a nuclear weapon and mobilize, and all of a sudden, nations from everywhere threaten to invade if we do not disarm. Thus, our requirements stand.

The Government of Matich respectfully requests that Egyptstan deactivate its nuclear weapons. As we have control over both entrances to the Med there is no way your forces are getting inside the Med. Both the Suez Canal and the Gibralter St. are closed to all military forces of Egyptstan. We urge all nations not to attack Egyptstan. We can still solve this peacefully.

King John II

OOC: Egypstan you cant have 20,000 fighters.

Nations against Egypstan's nuclear weapon usage have asked for the destruction of the nuclear program of Egypstan, not for the complete demilitarization of said sovereign nation. To ask several nations to demilitarize is unfair. If anything, Egypstan should ask for only the demilitarization of opposing nations' nuclear weapons programs. Other nations have asked for the disarmament of Egyptstan's nuclear weapons programs, so--if anything--Egypstan should ask only for the disarmament of other nations' nuclear weapons programs. It is equal and certainly more fair than requiring the total disarmament of several nations in order to end a disagreement.

Again, nuclear testing and mobilizations are within a nation's right, but it is often seen as a major threat because of the weapons' permanence. Nuclear weapons are a major responsibility and cannot be taken lightly.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs understands Egypstan's sovereignty and will not force nuclear disarmament on a sovereign nation. However, Suna Kaya still opposes Egypstan's nuclear ambitions and recommends Egypstan use its nuclear knowledge for more peaceful operations. The nation of Suna Kaya refuses to act militarily against Egypstan unless its interests are directly threatened, and recommends all other nations to follow suit.

Liberty and unity,

Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

As the GDMO has never demanded the disarmament of Egypstan, we feel no need to apologize on this account. However, if our actions appeared to be aggressive in any way, we sincerely apologize for this misunderstanding. Following ViZion's lead, we hope to further diffuse the situation by pulling our 3rd Fleet from international waters outside of Egypstan. Although it had no offensive mission, we hope this will reduce military tensions.

As for the international response to the Egypstanian detonantion of a nuclear device that coincided with the mobilization of large numbers of Egypstanian troops, we can say this much: Mobilization is often, and can be translated as, the immediate prelude to war. With these two military moves, the world cannot help but be alarmed.

Above all, we hope for peace, and we would gladly join a conference that seeks to maintain peace between Egypstan and the rest of the world.

Respectfully,
--WILHELM VON NIEMANN, Baron of Kaligny, Minister of Defense for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka

Egypstan will ONLY comply if all other forces completely demobilize, and leave Egypstan to its own. If nations continue to bother us about our mobilization and our nuclear weapons testing, we will not comply.

ViZion, please remove your forces from our coast line and borders. You always try to act as the international police, but you are only making this worse.

Egypstan's military is prepared to launch a full-out attack on any nation who takes one step on our soil without our consent, as that is an act of war!

Xeraph, you have 5 hours to remove your blockade. If you refuse to move them, this is an act of war, and we take that very seriously. We DEMAND YOU REMOVE IT.

<OOC>hey...sorry it took so long to respond...I wasn't near a computer all day...will respond shortly

Well, I really don't mind that you have nukes, just dont point them at me m'kay.....

We will only deactivate our nuclear weapons if nations are willing to stop threatening invasion, deactivate their own WMD's, and join at the table. Those who have threatened us, if they refuse, we will refuse. If any nation threatens us, we will refuse.

We are tired of threats because we mobilize for exercises and do a nuclear test.

We feel we have been targetted for the following reason:
-Islamic people
-Location
-Greed

It is up to those who have threatened us. They must apoligize for threatening to invade and admit they are wrong, they must deactivate their WMD's, and demobilize their military.

Those who have not threatened us with invasion, etc, you must deactivate your WMD's, and join the peace confrence.

And on top of that, no more threatening Egypstan. If these are not complied with, we will not comply with ViZion's request, and there will be no peace. We are willing to work out peace with nations who wish to have it with us, but there will be no peace with those who do not comply.

Egyptstan you are being targetted because of your history. I do not feel it is safe for you to have WMDs. We urge you to disarm. If you disarm we will protect you from any invading forces. If you do not disarm we will have to think about joining those nations who are going to forcefully disarm you. Please in the name of peace DISARM.


President Matich

Egypstan, is there any rationality of why you are about to destroy a population of millions? Answer that if you are not scared. :o

Belem congratulates Egyptstan on there succesful test of a nuclear device.

Belem congratulates Egyptstan on there succesful test of a nuclear device.


Belem please do not support Egyptstan.

From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR XF Forces

The King has responded:

" We accede to the wishes of our ally ViZion and Jarridia to stand down our blockade of Egyptstan. Xeraph has never reacted to demands of another nation, and will not start now. However, in the interest of international peace, I have ordered the blockade suspended."

"However, our naval and air presence will remain in the Mediterranean at high alert. Should it become necessary to mount an all-out retaliatory effort, we will be ready......."

Egypstan, is there any rationality of why you are about to destroy a population of millions? Answer that if you are not scared. :o
Excuse me? We are not the ones going around threatening to invade nations who posess WMD's. Do not blame us if this goes into a war. We are within our sovereign rights to posess and test nuclear weapons. We have not killed anyone, nor attacked any nation. But if will if we are attacked.

As for you Matich. I thought we could work the past out. Egypstan has a terrible history. But, though I am a Pharaoh, unlike the past Pharaoh's, I do not go around killing my people, supporting terrorism, or attacking nations with Acigoo. That was the past. Stop living in it. We are here, today, in the present. We will not deactivate unless our terms above are met.

Belem congratulates Egyptstan on there succesful test of a nuclear device.
Thank you. At least someone will congratulate us on our successful testing.

From: Gen. Strickland, CMDR XF Forces

The King has responded:

" We accede to the wishes of our ally ViZion and Jarridia to stand down our blockade of Egyptstan. Xeraph has never reacted to demands of another nation, and will not start now. However, in the interest of international peace, I have ordered the blockade suspended."

"However, our naval and air presence will remain in the Mediterranean at high alert. Should it become necessary to mount an all-out retaliatory effort, we will be ready......."
We are glad you have done this. Thank you.

Egyptstan you may have turned good and I congratulate you if you have but I need to know for sure before Im going to allow you to have WMDs. Please disarm for peace.

Egypstan, your request seems a bit large, does it not? Although you refuse to deactivate your own WMD's, you DEMAND all nations, even those that have not threatened you, to deactivate theirs. Is this not hypocrisy at its finest? Our tiny defensive nuclear arsenal had never been activated in the first place, but we still must protest.

If you had earlier stated that the mass mobilization of troops was for training purposes and that your nuclear detonation was simply a test, much of the tension that we are under now would have never materialized. Although nations were wrong in threatening your nation with invasion, you kept the world in the dark. Because of your actions, the world was forced to take preventative measures.

We will comply with your demands and join the conference, but through your words:
If these are not complied with, we will not comply with ViZion's request, and there will be no peace.
it appears that you are threatening the world with nuclear annihilation. Although mistakes have been made, what is truly at stake here is peace, not the satisfaction of your demands for apologies. Would you really go to war over words? We hope not.

--WILHELM VON NIEMANN, Baron of Kaligny, Minister of Defense for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka

We will not disarm. We are within our sovereign rights as a nation. We cannot be forced to disarm.

Do not try to, either.

It is one thing to ask opposing nations do end their programs of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), but it is completely different to demand opposing nations to throw out their entire militaries. No nation, to my knowledge, has demanded the complete disarmament of the Egypstanian military as a whole. If I am incorrect, please correct me.

The nation of Suna Kaya was not aware that Egypstan had a population of Muslims, so it was not acting in a biased manner against Egypstan for religious reasons. Islam is a peaceful faith, however, and using such a weapon of mass destruction as a nuclear bomb is a warlike action.

Suna Kaya is in the west Pacific Ocean, and has no military, political, or economic interests in a nation thousands of miles away. Our nation is not an imperialist power, nor does it ever intend to be. Suna Kaya has no weapons of mass destruction to disarm, but it does welcome a peace conference.

Egypstan will be threatened by other nations if those other nations feel that they are being threatened by Egypstan. Other nations in this situation have been threatened by Egypstan's flagrant use of a nuclear weapon and have acted in what they believe to be a correct manner.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Using that same logic, we are within our sovereign rights to not disarm. If Egypstan was to attack a country that had not disarmed, therefore, you would be held as the aggressor.

It is one thing to ask opposing nations do end their programs of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), but it is completely different to demand opposing nations to throw out their entire militaries. No nation, to my knowledge, has demanded the complete disarmament of the Egypstanian military as a whole. If I am incorrect, please correct me.

The nation of Suna Kaya was not aware that Egypstan had a population of Muslims, so it was not acting in a biased manner against Egypstan for religious reasons. Islam is a peaceful faith, however, and using such a weapon of mass destruction as a nuclear bomb is a warlike action.

Suna Kaya is in the west Pacific Ocean, and has no military, political, or economic interests in a nation thousands of miles away. Our nation is not an imperialist power, nor does it ever intend to be. Suna Kaya has no weapons of mass destruction to disarm, but it does welcome a peace conference.

Egypstan will be threatened by other nations if those other nations feel that they are being threatened by Egypstan. Other nations in this situation have been threatened by Egypstan's flagrant use of a nuclear weapon and have acted in what they believe to be a correct manner.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Well said, Mr. Vice Minister........

Egypstan, your request seems a bit large, does it not? Although you refuse to deactivate your own WMD's, you DEMAND all nations, even those that have not threatened you, to deactivate theirs. Is this not hypocrisy at its finest? Our tiny defensive nuclear arsenal had never been activated in the first place, but we still must protest.

If you had earlier stated that the mass mobilization of troops was for training purposes and that your nuclear detonation was simply a test, much of the tension that we are under now would have never materialized. Although nations were wrong in threatening your nation with invasion, you kept the world in the dark. Because of your actions, the world was forced to take preventative measures.

We will comply with your demands and join the conference, but through your words:
If these are not complied with, we will not comply with ViZion's request, and there will be no peace.
it appears that you are threatening the world with nuclear annihilation. Although mistakes have been made, what is truly at stake here is peace, not the satisfaction of your demands for apologies. Would you really go to war over words? We hope not.

--WILHELM VON NIEMANN, Baron of Kaligny, Minister of Defense for the Archduke Philip IV of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka
We have stated if our terms are complied with, we will comply with ViZions, which means deactivating our nuclear weapons.

Also, we will go to war if nations feel the need to FORCE us to disarm. We are within our sovereign right not to disarm, as we have not used these weapons on anyone. Those who are willing to not threaten us, deactivate their WMD's, and work on peace will not be in harms way. Those who refuse to accept our terms will be reguarded as enemies, and those who do decide to fight us, they will be destroyed. We will not let any nation force us to do something, when we have sovereignty.

It is one thing to ask opposing nations do end their programs of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), but it is completely different to demand opposing nations to throw out their entire militaries. No nation, to my knowledge, has demanded the complete disarmament of the Egypstanian military as a whole. If I am incorrect, please correct me.

The nation of Suna Kaya was not aware that Egypstan had a population of Muslims, so it was not acting in a biased manner against Egypstan for religious reasons. Islam is a peaceful faith, however, and using such a weapon of mass destruction as a nuclear bomb is a warlike action.

Suna Kaya is in the west Pacific Ocean, and has no military, political, or economic interests in a nation thousands of miles away. Our nation is not an imperialist power, nor does it ever intend to be. Suna Kaya has no weapons of mass destruction to disarm, but it does welcome a peace conference.

Egypstan will be threatened by other nations if those other nations feel that they are being threatened by Egypstan. Other nations in this situation have been threatened by Egypstan's flagrant use of a nuclear weapon and have acted in what they believe to be a correct manner.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Well said, Mr. Vice Minister........

Ditto...

Egyptstan you have no right to tell nations that are much larger and that do not have the history you do to do anything. You are trying our patience.

It is one thing to ask opposing nations do end their programs of weapons of mass destruction (WMDs), but it is completely different to demand opposing nations to throw out their entire militaries. No nation, to my knowledge, has demanded the complete disarmament of the Egypstanian military as a whole. If I am incorrect, please correct me.

The nation of Suna Kaya was not aware that Egypstan had a population of Muslims, so it was not acting in a biased manner against Egypstan for religious reasons. Islam is a peaceful faith, however, and using such a weapon of mass destruction as a nuclear bomb is a warlike action.

Suna Kaya is in the west Pacific Ocean, and has no military, political, or economic interests in a nation thousands of miles away. Our nation is not an imperialist power, nor does it ever intend to be. Suna Kaya has no weapons of mass destruction to disarm, but it does welcome a peace conference.

Egypstan will be threatened by other nations if those other nations feel that they are being threatened by Egypstan. Other nations in this situation have been threatened by Egypstan's flagrant use of a nuclear weapon and have acted in what they believe to be a correct manner.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs
They should not be fearful, we have not made any threats. Leaders these days jump to conclusions WAY to much. This is what this whole issue is about - nations jumping to conclusions, and threatening us over it.

Egyptstan you have no right to tell nations that are much larger and that do not have the history you do to do anything. You are trying our patience.
And you do not have the right to demand we disarm. You are testing OUR patience.

Using that same logic, we are within our sovereign rights to not disarm. If Egypstan was to attack a country that had not disarmed, therefore, you would be held as the aggressor.
We will not attack for that reason. We WILL attack if they try to enter and force us to disarm.

Egypstan, what exactly is your definition of "deactivate"? Is it to destroy the WMD's altogether, stop targeting Egypstan, or simply to take them off of an active, primed-for-launch status?

Deactivate=not activated. Simply to take them off of an active, primed-for-launch status.

Matich, do you REALLY want to start this war? http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146233 We demand you leave the shipment heading towards Egypstan alone.

Too late. It will not make it to Egyptstan.

Xeraph... *ahem* that is Miss Vice Minister. No harm done, however.

Suna Kaya denounces Egypstan's demilitarization requirements its has imposed on nations against it. These requirements are unnecessary and extreme. However, our nation refuses to force Egypstan to disarm.

Sovereignty is very important. Destroying a sovereign nation is also important. When one nation denounces the sovereignty of another by threatening to destroy it, action must be taken. Egypstan has threatened to destroy opposing sovereign nations who fight it. Other nations have threatened to invade and have navally blockaded Egypstan. Either military action will be taken by other nations or we can solve this via a peace conference.

I ask Egypstan if it is willing to be involved in a peace conference on condition that opposing nations refuse to use nuclear weapons against Egypstan. No demilitarization would occur on either side. Suna Kaya offers this peacefully and hopes for a peaceful resolution.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Apparently the leadership of Egyptstan is a bit thick or is under the misapprehension that having nuclear weapons in this world makes one a big kid on the block. As a nation that is experienced in the art of deplomacy as applied to nations who have overlarge opinions of themselves, we simply say this: Stand your nuclear weapons down immediately or your military will be turned to so much scrap.

Although we share the same views, think twice before threatening a nuclear power. Even weak and evil states, when they have access to WMD's, can reduce powerful and righteous nations to little more than rubble.

While we thank Monte Ozarka for the warning, Egypstan's military doesn't have the capacity for a successful nuclear delivery against the Imperium. Furthermore, any such attempt by Egyptstan will be met with the total annhilation of said nation.

Scandavian States, you have no right to demand we end our nuclear program. It is within our sovereign right.

We did not say end your nuclear program, we simply said stand your weapons down. However, now that we think about it, that would probably be best. We strongly suggest that Egyptstan puts the lives of its military personell over that of its nuclear program.

Xeraph... *ahem* that is Miss Vice Minister. No harm done, however.

Suna Kaya denounces Egypstan's demilitarization requirements its has imposed on nations against it. These requirements are unnecessary and extreme. However, our nation refuses to force Egypstan to disarm.

Sovereignty is very important. Destroying a sovereign nation is also important. When one nation denounces the sovereignty of another by threatening to destroy it, action must be taken. Egypstan has threatened to destroy opposing sovereign nations who fight it. Other nations have threatened to invade and have navally blockaded Egypstan. Either military action will be taken by other nations or we can solve this via a peace conference.

I ask Egypstan if it is willing to be involved in a peace conference on condition that opposing nations refuse to use nuclear weapons against Egypstan. No demilitarization would occur on either side. Suna Kaya offers this peacefully and hopes for a peaceful resolution.

Liberty and unity,
Raine Allenby
Vice Minister of Foreign Affairs

Miss Vice Minister,

You have my abject apologies. I should have inherently known that so elegant a response could only have come from an obviously charming and intelligent lady.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph

:shock: ahhhh! We do not wish any nation to disarm we do ask that you both step down on this and make peace!

<BUMP>

OOC:
Two points of possible confusion to clear up;

1) I only recall Egypstan asking for demobalization, not demiliterization

2) Egypstan is a revived 1.5 billion nation, not the newbie his incorrect join date would sugest

IC:
In light of the aparent desire of certain parties to escilate the situation, the Dominion of Kanuckistan has placed it's nuclear arsenal on alert, and formally anounces it's intent to deploy long-range tactical nuclear assets against any deployed military force that invades Egypstan.

However, if Egypstan initiates armed conflict, they're on their own.

We hope this move will make all parties less willing to move from harsh works and start a shooting war.

Matich, do you REALLY want to start this war? http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=146233 We demand you leave the shipment heading towards Egypstan alone.

Too late. It will not make it to Egyptstan.


The Dominion of The Gun Brothers denounces this attack by Matich. It seems that Matich is using its past with Egypstan to legitimize what we consider nothing more than an act of piracy. The High Council has convened for an emergency session due to the recent hosilities. While the Council was undecided as to what TGB would commit to, we urge Matich to make whatever reparations necessary to avoid a nulear war with Egypstan.

signed,

Jason White
High Councilman, TGB

OOC:
Two points of possible confusion to clear up;

1) I only recall Egypstan asking for demobalization, not demiliterization

2) Egypstan is a revived 1.5 billion nation, not the newbie his incorrect join date would sugest

IC:
In light of the aparent desire of certain parties to escilate the situation, the Dominion of Kanuckistan has placed it's nuclear arsenal on alert, and formally anounces it's intent to deploy long-range tactical nuclear assets against any deployed military force that invades Egypstan.

However, if Egypstan initiates armed conflict, they're on their own.

We hope this move will make all parties less willing to move from harsh works and start a shooting war.

The problem is, there has alredy been conflict initiated by Matich, with the seizing of property of Egypstan. While we would have supported such an operation if the transaction were illegal in some way, or directly contrary to the health and welfare of Egypstan's citizens, Matich is using past grudges to support its theft of Egypstan's property.

Showing that Egypstan is not afraid to use its nuclear weapons, it is demonstrating its nuclear weapons.


http://www.needham.k12.ma.us/high_school/cur/Baker_00/baker_modern/baker_mc_ed_p4/hiroshima_aftermath.jpg



THis pic is a photo of Hiroshima. I notice it from the dome building thing.

OOC: ya, Aanmericaa, it is... I couldn't find a glassed beach, so I figured that'd do fine for a destroyed test "village".

further reviewing of our reports we have analized that a war between such a coalition and a nation with super-weapon capabilities can be catostrophic therefore, in such an invasion of Egypstan, New Vuhifell is sending in the 7th fleet to defend Egypstan and also to prevent it from launching nuclear weapons as long as the 7th fleet survives...

Fearing the worst, AESF has been raised to defcon 2, and will be keeping a close eye on Egypstan. Due to previous dealings with ViZon helping us in our time of need, any action taken by ViZon will have the AESF 100% support.