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FWS officers seek asylum in South Africa and Mozambique

16-05-2004, 23:20
Reports are coming in that Gustavus Rhodes and General Walter Kruger, both men who were supposed to remain outside of FWS permanently but returned during the toppling of Alexander Rhodes and the subsequent brief return of Hendrik Rhodes, have fled to Mobutoland where they have been granted asylum. It is odd that two people who were convicted of crimes against Mobutoland would be allowed to enter into Mobutoland. But, it appears that they were willing to help train the Mobuto army

Also reports are coming in that Colonel Walter Kruger II, son of General Kruger, was caught on the border with Mozambique. He was found with a pistol, falsified identification and passport, and 5 million fasces in cash. Also with him is his secretary. Mozambique border guards turned him over to Mozambique police. He is expected to request asylum. Colonel Kruger II was the officer who ordered the dumping of almost 100 million gallons of oil into the ocean.

Reports are coming in that Captain Hans Utrecht II son of famed war criminal Colonel Hans Utrecht (who was executed), was caught on the border with South Africa… He was found to be in possession of a pistol, submachine gun, silencer, 10 million fasces in cash, and assorted falsified identification and passport cards. He is expected to request asylum in South Africa. He was the officer who authorized the crop dusters to spray uranium all along the Victoria River and actually in the river in an attempt to deter a river crossing.


The Order of Governments in FWS was.

Hendrik Rhodes who abdicated in favor of Alexander Rhodes, who was toppled by the army. The army brought Hendrik Rhodes back to power for a short time. Hendrik Rhodes left again. Then Donald Rhodes was named by Parliament. Fascists upset over the war assassinated Donald Rhodes. Parliament then named Andrew Rhodes as president.
17-05-2004, 00:19
Reports are coming in of a mass exodus of secret police out of FWS... Hundreds of unemployed Secret Police officers, and unemployed officers from mechanized and light infantry units have crossed the border into South Africa and requested asylum.



3 Mechanized Infantry Colonels
8 Mechanized Infantry Majors
12 Mechanized Infantry Captains
45 Mechanized Infatry Lieutenants

Approximately 200 secret police have fled into South Africa and requested Asylum.
17-05-2004, 00:32
20 FWS MiG-29s have been flown by their pilots across the border into South Africa where they have landed on commerial airfields... The Pilots are requesting Asylum.

60 Mi-17 helicopters have also been flown into SouthAfrica... They landed in near border outposts on the South African side of the border. The Pilots are requesting Asylum
17-05-2004, 00:39
1 Oliver Cromwell Class Interceptor Destroyer entered a main port in Cape Town, South Africa. The crew, about 200 sailors and 20 officers, are requesting Asylum.


1 Gustavus Class Heavy Destroyer entered a main port in Durban, South Africa. The crew, about 372 sailors and 46 officers, are requesting Asylum.
17-05-2004, 01:22
15 MiG-31s have flown into Zambia. The pilots are requesting Asylum

2 F-22s have flown into South Africa. The Pilots are requesting Asylum.

24 Elephant Transport helicopters (used to move paracommandos) have flown into South Africa. The Pilots are requestion Asylum.
17-05-2004, 01:45
Would the people who are Zambia, Mozambique, and South Africa please join in on this :)


Thank you.
17-05-2004, 02:31
Bump
Chellis
17-05-2004, 02:39
OOC:I own Mozambique.

IC: Chellian officials have picked up walter kruger from the mozambique police, but havn't decided what to do yet. He is being kept in a military installation for the time being.
17-05-2004, 02:50
OOC:I own Mozambique.

IC: Chellian officials have picked up walter kruger from the mozambique police, but havn't decided what to do yet. He is being kept in a military installation for the time being.


Okay
17-05-2004, 02:53
1 Templar Class Attack Submarine has entered into the main port at Maputo, Mozambique. The crew consisting of 118 sailors and 17 officers have requested Asylum.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 02:58
The people of West Pacific are willing to send help to their Fascist brothers to deter any more attempts by FWS military personnel to cross the borders and seek assylum in bordering nations.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 03:08
Magdha welcomes all FWS citizens seeking asylum. We are currently home of Hendrik Rhodes and welcome all FWS citizens.

Mozambique we will send a C130 cargo plane to pick up all FWS citizens. We also ask that others seeking asylum to land at the airbases in Mombotuland so we can send you to Magdha with full fuel tanks and a few tankers to refill them.

All ships should head for Magdhan bases in the Maldive Islands.
Chellis
17-05-2004, 03:25
The Submariners have been put in the same arrangment, being held in a military base. The submarine has been blown up, being foreign military equipment in a chellian controlled territory.

And Magdha has been denied. We keeps what we finds. One way or another.
17-05-2004, 03:37
The entire 1st and 2nd Fleets of the FWS navy are heading towards Magdhan controlled territory. Each fleet is based around a super carrier... The FWS navy currently has only 2 super carriers. Construction on the Hendrik Rhodes naval plane began days ago, and the current president Peter Paul Rhodes has decided to continue construction saying that it will put people in work, especially disgruntled ex-army personnel.



FWS Naval forces that were cleaning up oil slicks have ceased doing so and have joined other ships in heading for Magdhan controlled territory.

The Total of the
FWS Naval Forces consisting of:


1 Ian Smith Class Super Carrier

1 Smuts Class Super Carrier

10 Oliver Cromwell Class Interceptor destroyers

6 Gustavus Class Heavy Destroyers

4 Cecil Rhodes Class Heavy Cruisers

6 Wilhelm Class Frigates

2 Templar Class Attack Submarines

1 Crusader Class SSBN Submarine (no nukes yet, not even capable of launching them, it was under construction and is not really supposed to be in the ocean)

About 40 cargo, troop, mine laying ships, and others


All have made top speed for Magdhan controlled territory. The crews have announced they will seek asylum

Total numbers include approximately 21,350 sailors and 3,354 officers.

This move will leave the FWS with no naval forces, at least until the new ships being built are completed.
17-05-2004, 04:14
150 MiG-29s
90 MiG-31s
400 Mi-17s
150 Mi-24s
200 Elephant Transport Helicopters
16 F-22As
And about 50 C-130s

Have all flown into Mobutoland as a stopping point for their flying onto magdhan controllled territory to request exile... Mobutoland has agreed to allow the planes to stop over in their territory to rest and refuel before heading to meet the Ian Smith Class Super Carrier and Smuts Class Super Carrier which are parts of 1st and 2nd FWS Fleets already on their way to Magdha.

The C-130s however will not rendezvous with the carriers ts. Rather, they will head directly for Magdha
17-05-2004, 04:25
The Submariners have been put in the same arrangment, being held in a military base. The submarine has been blown up, being foreign military equipment in a chellian controlled territory.

And Magdha has been denied. We keeps what we finds. One way or another.


I want to know if 5 of the C-130s can stop over in Mozambique and pick up the crew of the submarine before they continue on to Magdhan controlled territory? If you agree, Hendrik Rhodes will wire you
F-10,000,000 (F= Fasces)
Magdha
17-05-2004, 04:35
We will send 5,000,000 Magdras if you give us the Asylum seekers.
The Burnsian Desert
17-05-2004, 04:43
All FWS military officials found within TBD borders shall be accomidated and sent into civil life. Any refuseing so shall be deported to appropriate boot camps. We disagree strongly with facism and segregation, although we also do not believe in genocide.

OOC: In other words, your guys go into my country, become yours and my citizens. Half and half. No asylum.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 04:44
Magdha offers all FWS asylum seekers citizenship and the rights gained by it. It can be held alongside FWS citizenship.
17-05-2004, 04:45
All FWS military officials found within TBD borders shall be accomidated and sent into civil life. Any refuseing so shall be deported to appropriate boot camps. We disagree strongly with facism and segregation, although we also do not believe in genocide.

OOC: In other words, your guys go into my country, become yours and my citizens. Half and half. No asylum.


Are you Zambia?
The Burnsian Desert
17-05-2004, 04:46
OOC: :? No... I'm the Burnsian Desert. No puppets.
17-05-2004, 04:48
OOC: :? No... I'm the Burnsian Desert. No puppets.


Well there are no FWS personnel seeking asylum in your nation as you don't border us... Do you? We are Namibia, Botswana, and Rhodesia.
The Burnsian Desert
17-05-2004, 04:50
OOC: Just in case. Sure, I'll be Zambia.
17-05-2004, 04:51
OOC: Just in case. Sure, I'll be Zambia.

Well some are already in Zambia.

Earlier post
15 MiG-31s have flown into Zambia. The pilots are requesting Asylum
Magdha
17-05-2004, 04:54
I'd wager no. Remember FWS, Magdha offers generous terms for asylum seekers.

1st and 2nd fleets are allowed to refuel in the maldives. We will then send you to Varanasi where you can permanantly port the ships.

All aircraft are to fly from Mombotuland to the maldives to Ayodhya. We will provide tankers for refueling.
17-05-2004, 04:54
The Submariners have been put in the same arrangment, being held in a military base. The submarine has been blown up, being foreign military equipment in a chellian controlled territory.

And Magdha has been denied. We keeps what we finds. One way or another.



1 Templar Class Attack Submarine has entered into the main port at Maputo, Mozambique. The crew consisting of 118 sailors and 17 officers have requested Asylum.

Also Colonel Walter Kruger II and his secretary (Soon to be wife)

You destroyed our submarine which is bad enough... Will you please either grant them asylum or allow them to board planes for either Magdha or Mobutoland.

Thank you.
17-05-2004, 04:55
The Submariners have been put in the same arrangment, being held in a military base. The submarine has been blown up, being foreign military equipment in a chellian controlled territory.

And Magdha has been denied. We keeps what we finds. One way or another.


You've blown up FWS government property??? :(
Magdha
17-05-2004, 04:56
Magdha will send a plane from the maldives if nessescary.
The Burnsian Desert
17-05-2004, 04:59
The request for asylum has been denied; all pilots must land at a designated airport and contact authourities immediately.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 05:01
I want to know if 5 of the C-130s can stop over in Mozambique and pick up the crew of the submarine before they continue on to Magdhan controlled territory? If you agree, Hendrik Rhodes will wire you
F-10,000,000 (F= Fasces)

FWS, it would appear you do not know what assylum is, so I will tell you, assylum is when citizens of one country attempt to be allowed to stay under the protection of another country. Since your citizens and military personnel are attempting to leave your country you should be trying to stop them, not aid in their flight to leave the country.
17-05-2004, 05:04
I want to know if 5 of the C-130s can stop over in Mozambique and pick up the crew of the submarine before they continue on to Magdhan controlled territory? If you agree, Hendrik Rhodes will wire you
F-10,000,000 (F= Fasces)

FWS, it would appear you do not know what assylum is, so I will tell you, assylum is when citizens of one country attempt to be allowed to stay under the protection of another country. Since your citizens and military personnel are attempting to leave your country you should be trying to stop them, not aid in their flight to leave the country.[/quote]


We will not stop the peaceful movement of our citizens... We are not East Germany. Although we wish they'd stop taking ships and planes. We have almost no airforce and no navy now.
17-05-2004, 05:05
I want to know if 5 of the C-130s can stop over in Mozambique and pick up the crew of the submarine before they continue on to Magdhan controlled territory? If you agree, Hendrik Rhodes will wire you
F-10,000,000 (F= Fasces)

FWS, it would appear you do not know what assylum is, so I will tell you, assylum is when citizens of one country attempt to be allowed to stay under the protection of another country. Since your citizens and military personnel are attempting to leave your country you should be trying to stop them, not aid in their flight to leave the country.[/quote]


Hendrik Rhodes is the exiled leader... He will pay to help his people get to safety.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 05:07
So will the Magdhan government.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 05:08
You've blown up FWS government property??? :(

The crew gave the ship to the Chellian government so they can blow it up. Or you can look it from another view, that is, the Chellian government was confronted with a hostile warship in their terrirorial waters, they then provided quarter for the crew and shuttled the ship, either way, the Chellian government was well within their rights to scuttle the sub.
17-05-2004, 05:10
You've blown up FWS government property??? :(

The crew gave the ship to the Chellian government so they can blow it up. Or you can look it from another view, that is, the Chellian government was confronted with a hostile warship in their terrirorial waters, they then provided quarter for the crew and shuttled the ship, either way, the Chellian government was well within their rights to scuttle the sub.


FWS President Peter Paul Rhodes views it as the crew stole the ship and should have been arrested and sent back to FWS. The ship should have been held until FWS personnel could get it back to FWS.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 05:17
Well FWS and his puppet Maghda do not have enough of a Navy and Air Force to force Chellis to return any ships or subs that unlawfully Chellian territory.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 05:18
Well FWS and his puppet Maghda do not have enough of a Navy and Air Force to force Chellis to return any ships or subs that unlawfully Chellian territory.

I'm not a puppet.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 05:29
Yeah, if this was an isolated incident I would believe you, but this is about the fourth time this has happened, I used to have a puppet, I made the same mistake, now they are no longer a part of NS because I let it go inactive for too long and it was deleted.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 05:49
Yeah, if this was an isolated incident I would believe you, but this is about the fourth time this has happened, I used to have a puppet, I made the same mistake, now they are no longer a part of NS because I let it go inactive for too long and it was deleted.

OK, then why was I founded almost 6 months before FWS?

Get the mod to do an IP check on me. Were different.
West Pacific
17-05-2004, 05:55
Sorry, FWS is Maghda's puppet, happy now?
Chellis
17-05-2004, 06:04
OOC:Err...Anyways...

IC: Chellis refuses FWS the right to land aircraft in mozambique, and it will decide what to do with them. This will either be asylum or prison, with possibility of military parole.
17-05-2004, 11:31
bump
Unified Sith
17-05-2004, 11:35
Every exile every runner will be hunted down by Unified Secret police, there is no where they wont go, there is no where they cant find you. You trial is inevitable.

Unified Sith requests that the international community aids us our quest to round up these war criminals so they can face charges of war crimes and crimes against humaity (genocide).
17-05-2004, 15:12
Every exile every runner will be hunted down by Unified Secret police, there is no where they wont go, there is no where they cant find you. You trial is inevitable.

Unified Sith requests that the international community aids us our quest to round up these war criminals so they can face charges of war crimes and crimes against humaity (genocide).


Most of these people just left because A) They're out of work. B) They fear the communist insurgency. C) FWS is not a safe place for hardly anybody...

Only Colonel Walter Kruger II and Captain Hans Utrecht II are likely to be charged with anything, and what they will likely be charged with is crimes against the environment, or environmental terrorism.
Magdha
17-05-2004, 18:11
Every exile every runner will be hunted down by Unified Secret police, there is no where they wont go, there is no where they cant find you. You trial is inevitable.

Unified Sith requests that the international community aids us our quest to round up these war criminals so they can face charges of war crimes and crimes against humaity (genocide).

Any FWS citizens in Magdha will be protected by military personnel. We do not allow commies into our nation anyway.
Belem
18-05-2004, 03:40
OOC: I control South Africa

IC: Belem and Belem colonial assets are willing to offer asylum to the government officials of FWS. The Imperial Empire also offers FWS its support in removing the conquerors from FWS
Magdha
18-05-2004, 04:07
OOC: I control South Africa

IC: Belem and Belem colonial assets are willing to offer asylum to the government officials of FWS. The Imperial Empire also offers FWS its support in removing the conquerors from FWS

We are glad that Belem supports our allies.
18-05-2004, 04:09
OOC: I control South Africa

IC: Belem and Belem colonial assets are willing to offer asylum to the government officials of FWS. The Imperial Empire also offers FWS its support in removing the conquerors from FWS

Thank you, we graciously accept your offer.
The Burnsian Desert
18-05-2004, 04:20
OOC: Remember, I'm Kenya, and this isn't my stance as TBD.

IC: We are currently lifting our "refugees aren't so good" policy. Now, all refugees from FWS are welcome inside our borders, and will be given our "Citizen Start Package".

This includes...

- Three-year visa (replacable)
- $50,000 cash
- 1 two-bedroom 1-bath house
- An optional rank in the Kenyan Defence Force
- Free passage between Kenya and the FWS
Magdha
18-05-2004, 04:22
We ask that all nations with FWS citizens in them to allow us to pick them up to live in Magdha.
18-05-2004, 04:25
No more soldiers are fleeing, there is finally work again (Fighting an guerilla war against foreign enemies). Indeed all soldiers who recently fled with their planes are heading back towards FWS. As is the FWS Navy...

The FWS navy would like premission to dock at Cape Town, south africa.


The FWS Airforce is on the FWS super carriers.

The Total of the
FWS Naval Forces consisting of:


1 Ian Smith Class Super Carrier

1 Smuts Class Super Carrier

10 Oliver Cromwell Class Interceptor destroyers

6 Gustavus Class Heavy Destroyers

4 Cecil Rhodes Class Heavy Cruisers

6 Wilhelm Class Frigates

2 Templar Class Attack Submarines

1 Crusader Class SSBN Submarine (no nukes yet, not even capable of launching them, it was under construction and is not really supposed to be in the ocean)

About 40 cargo, troop, mine laying ships, and others



Total numbers include approximately 21,350 sailors and 3,354 officers.
Belem
18-05-2004, 04:29
Permission Granted for docking.

IF you require any weapons or hardware feel free to ask and Belem can offer them under a lend lease program. Note this offer applies to all weapons including certain NBC models.
18-05-2004, 04:35
Permission Granted for docking.

IF you require any weapons or hardware feel free to ask and Belem can offer them under a lend lease program. Note this offer applies to all weapons including certain NBC models.

FWS is a commonwealth of 3 nations (Rhodesia, Botswana, and Namibia) we are all bordering South Africa. So you can rush in as many forces as you want to help us.
West Pacific
18-05-2004, 04:36
Really bad RPing their FWS, if your forces defected they would not want to return, they would try to stay away from FWS for fear of persecution.
18-05-2004, 05:15
Really bad RPing their FWS, if your forces defected they would not want to return, they would try to stay away from FWS for fear of persecution.


They only fled to get away from the "peace keepers" that Sith had... They feared (And probably rightfully so) that he would try to seize their ships and planes as his own.
18-05-2004, 05:34
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Roycelandia
18-05-2004, 06:41
The problem with a Multiverse is that everyone ends up fighting over who owns what.

Roycelandia owns Kenya, Uganda, and The Sudan (and Lesotho, for that matter) and has done for quite some time- as The African Commonwealth, Lusaka, Rhodesia & Nyasaland, United Elias, The Austar Union, Bedou, Fallschirmjaeger, and quite a few others can attest.

For what it's worth, I accept Sniper Country's claim to South Africa. I don't accept FWS' claim to Rhodesia, as the nation Rhodesia & Nyasaland has been RPing that Nation for as long as I can remember.

The edited highlights are that we just have to pretend that there are lots of countries with the same name and same location that are controlled by different Nations in different Multiverses.

And for the record, any FWS military aircraft approaching Roycelandian East Africa will be hailed by radio and ordered to land at the nearest airfield. Failure to do so will result in the aircraft being shot out of the sky.

Similarly, and military personnel attempting to enter REA under arms will be treated as invading soldiers and given all the rights of POWs when captured. Other FWS personnel and civillians will be denied entry to the country and detained at the border.