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The deadly viper defends Its borders from attack

The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 15:37
Now I m ready for you
Camewot
15-05-2004, 15:38
Live at the press conference, Miranda Newsreader

Dear Camewotians, today after long talks with the deadly viper, Camewot has decided to put the first step in this war against deadly viper.
Deadly viper has been threatening our friends Cam III, therefore he must be stopped. The army is currently mobilizing, our navy is on its way to the shores of deadly viper and the Airforce is currently bombing the first targets. I thank you, more information will be coming soon


Group 1 of the 10 aiforce squadrons that are part of Operation Prepare are ETA 5 minutes away from the first deadly viper land.
Theyre targets are the power plant in the capital, some military installations and the Parliament.
Each squadron exists of 15 bombers.
Cam III
15-05-2004, 15:41
Mobalise the army and navy, Fire 10 cruise missiles and bomb some major buildings as well

Yes sir

Cam III's whole fleet moved off in the direction of The Deadly Viper followed by 10 C-5 Galaxy Transport planes, 10 B-1B Lancer Bombers, 15 F-16 Fighter Planes and 5 Za-45E/F M.A.D.F stealth bombers


OOC: My fleet is:
30 LSD-41 Landing Craft
20 SSN-21 Seawolf-class nuclear attack subs
20 DD-963 Spruance-class Destroyers
10 Ticonderoga-class cruisers
20 Hell Class Supremacy Carrier
10 Hiro Nobunaga Class CVMN
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 15:41
Note that this is downsized from the original post

IC: A small section of the Jordaxian grand fleet broke off from the rest, and set sail for the deadly viper. Since Jordaxia offered Praetonia assistance, to which he accepted, and the Jordaxian fleet was returning from deployment training, this small part is already nearby.
Battle fleet Snake Charmer consists of
IJN Kronos, a Tartaros class battleship.
IJN Saturn, also Tartaros class
IJN Cerberus, Thunder Child Class
IJN Aphrodite Thunder Child Class
IJN Zeus, Pernicious class
IJN Hades, Pernicious class
IJN Hyperion (I sent Praetonia this TG, but this name may be wrong) Thunder Child class. Support ships and Tankers will be deployed soon, but I can't be bothered with all that now.

It's just deployments, so that we can get this thing over.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 15:41
*Sir incoming planes*
*Move to intersept
*Over and out*

for the last weeks negotiations with Camawot were low and security had been stepped up thank goodness for without the patrols the enemy may have hit before they knew it
Camewot
15-05-2004, 15:45
A squadron of The Navy is currently moving to deadly vipers shores
Consisting off:
5 Transporters with soldiers.
5 Batleships.
10 Subs




Meanwhile:

One bomber was shot and crashed into a neighbourhood.
The other 14 started bombing the Parliament and the Power plant.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 15:45
-Prime Ministerial Speech-

People of Praetonia. We have always been a Liberal people. We have always wished to be free, and we have that freedom. However, it is not true of other countries. It is not true of their people. It is not true of the Deadly Viperians. They have no freedom. they live under a despotic regime that kills them because of their appearance, that sells them as slaves, that even uses them as BULLET SHIELDS! This, my friends is what we must stop, what we will stop. That is why Praetonia is going to war!

-Mobolisation-

Praetonia is officially mobalising the Carrier Strike Group 'Trojan' and the Responce Army Corp (50,000 - 60,000 men and 1500 MBTs). See here for details www.freewebs.com/praetonia/ministryofdefense.htm
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 15:46
Mobalise the army and navy, Fire 10 cruise missiles and bomb some major buildings as well

Yes sir

Cam III's whole fleet moved off in the direction of The Deadly Viper followed by 10 C-5 Galaxy Transport planes, 10 B-1B Lancer Bombers, 15 F-16 Fighter Planes and 5 Za-45E/F M.A.D.F stealth bombers


OOC: My fleet is:
30 LSD-41 Landing Craft
20 SSN-21 Seawolf-class nuclear attack subs
20 DD-963 Spruance-class Destroyers
10 Ticonderoga-class cruisers
20 Hell Class Supremacy Carrier
10 Hiro Nobunaga Class CVMN



*sir ships detected co-ordinates 127534*
*let them perish on the sea mines and finish them off with bombers*
*sir*
*yes*
*there is over 100 of them*
the marshal swore many times in many languages and then came the chilling reply
*just do the best you can*
but sir the navel officer began then stopped the line was closed
Camewot
15-05-2004, 15:48
Please post youre casualtys from the bombings.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 15:50
Meanwhile:

One bomber was shot and crashed into a neighbourhood.
The other 14 started bombing the Parliament and the Power plant.[/quote]

the intercepting squadron was 20 fighters strong and only one bomber was shot!

also you havent considered my anti aircraft emplacements around my border did you expect it to be undefended in a time of war?
Camewot
15-05-2004, 15:51
Meanwhile:

One bomber was shot and crashed into a neighbourhood.
The other 14 started bombing the Parliament and the Power plant.

the intercepting squadron was 20 fighters strong and only one bomber was shot!

also you havent considered my anti aircraft emplacements around my border did you expect it to be undefended in a time of war?[/quote]


Well, I never saw you posting a intercepting squadron....
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 15:53
Praetonian mine-sweepers were sent first. The Praetonian Firgates and destroyers circled the carrier and troop-transports. Air and sea search radar swept back and forward, CIWS systems activated and the missile systems automated. Early Warning Helicopters were launched from the carriers and GA Eagle fighter-bombers were readied for take-off.

The Minesweeper PWS Prae sailed closer to The Deadly Viperian shores. The frigates and destoryers were stationed miles away, yet still in gun, missile and aeroplane range.

Captain: My God! Theres a bloody minefield! It goes on for miles!

Admiral: This is our only way to the beaches. The Frigates and Destoryers will cover you from a distacce, try to make a path big enough for our landing ships to fin through. In the mean time, deploy the Lightning Hovercraft.

OOC: Is the beach heabily fortified? Tell us about your defenses.
British Communists
15-05-2004, 15:55
As my ally Camewot is involved in this war, I will probably get involved too. Can someone quickly give me a rundown of the events which led to this please?
Turetel
15-05-2004, 15:56
"People of Turetel, the interest of Democracy and Freedom have come under fire from a slave trading nation. I know this disgust me and the Slavery Conference was an agreement to use force! Send the Turetelian White Fleet and Task Force 37 (138 Ships) and 17,000 Marines of the 33rd and 780th have been activated as well as 150,000 members of the Turetelian 2nd Infantry. I urge you all to assist in all ways possible, support the troops, and most of all have faith that we can win this war!" (Spoken by Turetelian Head of Forces, Trade, and Civility)
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Admiral Spree was ready at his deck as they headed out, they would reach this nation soon, and with the help of the other members they would achieve victory. Not wanting the Turetelian Green Fleet to come (701 Assorted Ships of Different Nations) he knew he would have to do his job correctly. Field Master James Watson was going to be leading the Marines as he had heard, a good man, sometimes rash, but he wasn't going to kill his men needlessly. Then their was Clovian General Champlain who had control over the 2nd Infantry, a man well into his 50's as I have recalled but was the best dam* general we had in the Infantry.

"Admiral, approaching land, opening up all allied com-links."

"Thanks Jeff, go to your post and prepare the bombers, all 400 of them, and escorts fighters will be up to you."

"Admiral, I recommend a group of 150 Fighters and 150 Dual Purpose Units."

"Granted, Godspeed Captain.!"
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The Infantry and Marines were huddled into transports and ushered unto their ships. Thank god they weren't in normal transports. They were in the Blockade Runners, speed of about 38 Knots on low and 55 Knots at maximum they were rather defense less except for their lone Mark 75 Gun.

Lt. Richard Dikes stood on the deck awaiting the end of this nations slavery...
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 15:57
Note that this is downsized from the original post

IC: A small section of the Jordaxian grand fleet broke off from the rest, and set sail for the deadly viper. Since Jordaxia offered Praetonia assistance, to which he accepted, and the Jordaxian fleet was returning from deployment training, this small part is already nearby.
Battle fleet Snake Charmer consists of
IJN Kronos, a Tartaros class battleship.
IJN Saturn, also Tartaros class
IJN Cerberus, Thunder Child Class
IJN Aphrodite Thunder Child Class
IJN Zeus, Pernicious class
IJN Hades, Pernicious class
IJN Hyperion (I sent Praetonia this TG, but this name may be wrong) Thunder Child class. Support ships and Tankers will be deployed soon, but I can't be bothered with all that now.

It's just deployments, so that we can get this thing over.


more ships ! the marshal exclamed More! ok there is nothing for it send out the devilfish 1st squadron anti sea stealth subs

the subs stalked their prey for two Km establishing their prime targets and their prey suspected nothing untill the first crippeling volley of torpedoes were fired

there are 15 subs all fired one missile each ship was fired on
post you losses
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 15:59
IJN Kronos, and IJN Saturn were ordered to move to the Praetonian fleet.
"Sir, the Praetonians claim to have spotted a minefield"
"And, Ensign?"
"Sir, the fleet will be held back for hours moving it"
"What about the beaches?"
"Unknown, at this time sir."
"The land?"
"Unknown"
"Does nobody have a damn map of this place?"
"It would appear not sir."
"Well get to work, damnit!"

(OOC: That entire conversation was about me asking TDV to put a map, and post his beach defenses. I have one question. is TDV Flat? More importantly, are the beache landing areas flat?)
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:01
The Bombers begin to fly, under cover of missile strikes on the coastal fortifications and several smoke bombs they might just fly through with low losses. The Fighters heard of Intercepting planes and Air Commander of Wing 7 ordered 50 Fighters to take them down, at all cost!
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Hearing of a mine field on the field didn't please Admiral Spree, and seeing how they had no mine sweepers left after they were transfered to task force 37, which was late, had to rely upon Praetonia to clear the field.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:01
50 Praetonian GA Eagles were launched, in rapid succession, from the Carrier. Each of the carried two 1,000lbs bunker busting bombs, anti air missiles and air-ground missiles. They flew over the beach, letting loose their payloads, then continued further inland, letting loose anti-radar missiles at SAM emplacements. They fired at any target of oppurtunity, roads, railway lines, troop formations and barracks.

Meanwhile the ships were pummelling the beaches with 4.5" guns, and the occasional burst of CIWS fire, when enough troops were in sight. The minesweepers slowly made progress through the mine field, but it would take a while yet.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:01
Praetonian mine-sweepers were sent first. The Praetonian Firgates and destroyers circled the carrier and troop-transports. Air and sea search radar swept back and forward, CIWS systems activated and the missile systems automated. Early Warning Helicopters were launched from the carriers and GA Eagle fighter-bombers were readied for take-off.

The Minesweeper PWS Prae sailed closer to The Deadly Viperian shores. The frigates and destoryers were stationed miles away, yet still in gun, missile and aeroplane range.

Captain: My God! Theres a bloody minefield! It goes on for miles!

Admiral: This is our only way to the beaches. The Frigates and Destoryers will cover you from a distacce, try to make a path big enough for our landing ships to fin through. In the mean time, deploy the Lightning Hovercraft.

OOC: Is the beach heabily fortified? Tell us about your defenses.

there is no beaches in the deadly viper just sheer cliffs the only access is by the three miletary ports and five trading ports the trading ports are blocked off now
and the miletary ports are heavily gaurded by sea and air
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:03
Well replace 'beach' with 'trading port'.
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:04
As the fleet heard on an open channel of no beaches Admiral Spree flinched, he was going to hit a port and hit it hard. The First Task Force was closest and would hit and try and secure it. It had 3,000 Marines with it and 500 Red Cross members, the Hospital Ships should not be fired upon thought Spree.

OOC: 1 Carrier (Kitty Hawk Class)
(Carries 85 Aircraft)
4 Cruisers (Ticonderoga Class)
8 Destroyers (6 Spruance Class)(2 Arleigh Burke Class)
1 Medical Ship
1 Fuel Shi
2 LHA(R) (Tarawa Class)
imported_Illior
15-05-2004, 16:04
Exactly what is this war over? (bbl baseball game)
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:05
I think not. I make it a point to ping active sonar during deployments. They know where my ships are, they may as well ping it.
What kind of technology do your subs use? How did they get there so bloody fast?
1 torpedo to each ship is a simple matter to destroy. Also, not very damaging to Trimaran hulls in comparison to monohulls.
Now, since you are learning, I ain't really destroying you for it, in fact, I'm gonna let 1 Torpedo hit the IJN Cerberus.

"Sir, Torpedo impact!"
"Where the hell!"
"Aft section, compartment 6 has been sealed. No major damage to the interior sir, operating at 89% efficiency. No weapons systems launched. Active sonar picked them up sir, we don't know what happened."
You can never hit the Tartaros class with torpedos when they are not in battlemode. Simply because they are flying when not in battlemode. This is 1960s tech, so it's not a godmod.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:07
We are under attack by many countries we have no chance of winning this war the Sultan has autherised the use of nuclear weapons to defend our countrys


Ok the first target is Preatonia co-ordinates 543891 the capital city this will scare the others and without further ado the Marshal flippeded a switch and the huge missile went roaring into space to plunge to earth in the center of the preatonian capital

OOC: eat that
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:10
I dare you to attack chambers. In fact, I double dare you.
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:11
All 4 Cruisers started to launch all the Tomahawk missiles they had, hitting the beach hard. They hit any target that was deemed a threat, nothing more. All Destroyers were now in range to open up with their added 3.5" Guns, pounding the coast.

OOC: Viper post losses, effect, and what happens.
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:14
OOC: My nations Nuclear Weapons defenses is through the roof in a sense. You have to send nearly 5,000 WMD's to penetrade our complex and large defense system. If you were to even manage it would be shot down my inner defense systems and cause little damage (my WMD Special Crew could easily repair damage).
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"Sir, A threat has been made to use Nuclear Weaponry."
"Launch the Balkan V7 Chemical Sleeper."
"Aye Sir."

OOC: The Balkan V7 Chemical Sleeper does not kill, only puts an area of 4 sq miles asleep for roughly 3-8 hours.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:16
Ok I would like to talk terms and conditions for a surrender
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:17
The missile aproached Praetonia:

Aide: Code Red! Get the Prime Minister to the bunker!

PM: My God! They truely are evil. General, save as many people as you can. Let's just pray the Underlord system works. Remember WE WANT NO RETALIATION!

Meanwhile, in a secret bunker, deep inside the mountains surrounding Praeton

Officer: CODE RED! THE UNDERLORD SYSTEM HAS BEEN ACTIVATED!

All around the cost of Praetonia siloes opened, missiles rushed out at speed approaching mach 10.

beep...beep..beep.beep.beep.beeeeeeeeeeeeeep

Officer: Target has been eliminated! Repeat, target has been eliminated!

OOC: This isnt godmodding, it has been anounced: www.freewebs.com/praetonia/ministryofdefense.htm and I can link to a threa about it's construction if you want. REMEMBR ALLIES, NO NUCLEAR RESPONCE!
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:17
The IJN Kronos seen the launch of the nuclear weapon on radar.
"Oh my...."
"Inform Praetonia, make sure they know what's coming. Get the Cerberus, Aphrodite, and the Hyperion to shoot that thing down."
"Sir."
(TDV, it's unlikely that you have a nuke, but I'm letting it slide. It's impossible that you have an ICBM too, but I'm also letting it slide, by assuming you got it from somebody else. However, it's not going to be a very good ICBM, and will likely be intercepted.) The IJN kronos, and the IJN Saturn cruised over the minefield, detonating the ones nearer the surface by the amount of force exerted by the wings. Once in range of the military compounds, they settled on the surface, and 12 14" cannon targetted the port.
"Fire at will."
That's 24 14" cannon pounding you, along with whatever fire support the Thunder Childs can give, all targetting this compound/port.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:19
Sultans Speech

we do not wish to see our country destroyed but if you persist we will take many of you down with us what are your terms for surrender
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 16:19
"Commander some of our allies are currently engaging a common enemy. IN fact they have lauched nuclear weapons as them."

"INdeed? Well order the fleet to move out - we'll teach this whipper-snapper a lesson."

WIthin hours the first ships to be sent leave Phoenixius ports. The following have been sent:

1 Furol-S submarine aircraft carrier
10 Harius-S submarines
10 Tritus-D/SMW frigates
2 Kelis-SMW cruisers
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 16:19
Also posted in the slavery conference thread:

The call came to Commodore Brenda Davis, rousing her from sleep. She was ordered to take a fleet to The Deadly Viper with three Soverign-class aircraft carriers, seven battleships, 12 cruisers, 10 air defense and 10 general purpose destroyers, and 25 frigates, plus assorted support ships. Eight attack submarines and two ballistic missile submarines also set off for The Dealy Viper's shores.

Close to 100 Sarzonian ships set off for The Deadly Viper's shores.

"We offer our assistance to Praetonia," Davis said. She got on the horn with The Deadly Viper.

"There will be no terms for surrender. Your surrender must be unconditional and immediate."
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 16:19
[code:1:a06acc0a74]Official comminique from Warsaw Kremlin:
RE: War on Deadly viper

Gracious comrade Illianov wishes to know what this war is about, so far it seems to be a simple matter of imperialism, if these attacks continue unexplained, the CP war machine will come into effect
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http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Illianov.jpg
Comrade Illianov, leader of the Communistpoland workers party
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:21
Will you talk with me!!
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:22
OOC: My allies let us talk terms of Surrender now.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:23
[code:1:7845d3b391]Official comminique from Warsaw Kremlin:
RE: War on Deadly viper

Gracious comrade Illianov wishes to know what this war is about, so far it seems to be a simple matter of imperialism, if these attacks continue unexplained, the CP war machine will come into effect
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http://img52.photobucket.com/albums/v160/Midlonia/Illianov.jpg
Comrade Illianov, leader of the Communistpoland workers party

they Just dont like me
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:23
OOC: Sure, here are the reasons:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=145538&highlight= There are links to various threads etc.
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:24
not so CP. It's a just war, both answering threats made by TDV on my ally Praetonia, and to stop him trading slaves. If that's imperialism, then why isn't he a colony? We will be putting a working democracy and leaving his citizens to enjoy peace without fear, or slavery.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:24
OOC: My allies let us talk terms of Surrender now.

yes good we will meet under a flag of truce in a island off the coast in the meeting building for the residents
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:26
not so CP. It's a just war, both answering threats made by TDV on my ally Praetonia, and to stop him trading slaves. If that's imperialism, then why isn't he a colony? We will be putting a working democracy and leaving his citizens to enjoy peace without fear, or slavery.
Agreed, not let us list our terms.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:27
We, as the targets of that despicable nuclear attack, propose that:

1) Praetonian and allied troops are allowed to enter TDV, unopposed.

2) You hand over ALL of your nuclear weapons to us or our allies for destruction.

3) You publicly apologise for what you tried to do to us, and what you did do to the genocide victims.

4) Your leader is tried for genocide in an independant court.

5) A democratic system of government is installed in your county under a constitution that we the victors shall write.

6) We, the victors, may station troops inside your country for (EDIT: 10) years after the democracy is instated, and may own small military bases inside your territory indefinately.

In return for this you may keep your sovereignty and we will not be forced to wage a war that will result in many people dying and property being destroyed, but that you will inevitably lose.

This is not neccessarily complete or consise, and any of these can be taken away, or more added, at any time.

Do our allies agree?
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:27
Praetonia, I'll take it you mean all of us that attacked for a good deal of the above, right?
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 16:27
As we are late to this party we shall have no immediate bearing on this council, however we wish to attend. Our ships shall be standing by ready for anything.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:28
Praetonia, I'll take it you mean all of us that attacked for a good deal of the above, right?

Yes of course.
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:29
TDV, please respond to the terms.
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 16:30
OOC: it doesn't hold water in my opinion and i will act accordingly....
This includes naval and Military intervention if you don't back down, however TDV, change the World fact book entry

personally i see this as a n00b bash
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:31
This war was brought on by two things, insults to nations, and the Slavery Conference that decided that this nation was a prime example. It was a slave trader and holder as I understand it.
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:31
The terms seem fair exept the troops being in my country for twenty years I will not stand for that
Turetel
15-05-2004, 16:33
TDV, we will ensure that your nation is unharmed by this. We must have forces in your nation to ensure security.

OOC: I am leaving for a little while.
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:33
(It is, a little, but he was for it, so why not? Also, Sith proposed genocide, and you declared war on him... Double standards?)
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:35
you may have inspectors but no armed troops of yours are allowed in my country without my say so
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:38
Ten years is fair (OOC: if we say 2 then theyll be out by monay so what the point in that). We must ensure that you do not attempt to revert to your old ways. The troops will not do anything, they will not be a police force and they will not run your country, but they must remain as peace-keeping forces.

EDIT: you may have inspectors but no armed troops of yours are allowed in my country without my say so

I really dont think you are in any position to dicate terms. We will compromise at ten years, or if you prefer, we could bomb your country into oblivion and then invade the pulp?
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:41
7 years will be accepted
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 16:43
you may have inspectors but no armed troops of yours are allowed in my country without my say so

You are hardly in a position to dictate terms with several navies ready to blow your country to bits if you make a wrong move.

We propose that allied forces remain in TDV indefinitely.

And I stand by my original proposal for UNCONDITIONAL surrender.
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 16:44
Lets not do an Iraq and balls up the whole thing. I say 7 years, then we leave, government or no government.
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:46
7 years is agreeable. If it ain't fixed in 7 years, it's busted beyond repair.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:46
10 years. We have compromised so far out of kindness, but we will not barter with those who have tried to kill millions of our citzens. You accept ALL of our conditions, or we will proceed with the assault.
Camewot
15-05-2004, 16:46
OOC: Im sorry I couldent participate in the war I had to go :(

IC:
I agree with everything Praedonia has said.
Although I think troops should stay indefinitely.....
Unless you want youre country to be taken over in its whole size...
The deadly viper
15-05-2004, 16:48
We will be revenged :evil: :!:
Camewot
15-05-2004, 16:48
We will be revenged :evil: :!:

Djeeses mate youre starting all over again!
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:49
We believe indefinately staitioned troops is too harsh. However, we refuse to barter with them. They are in no position to dictate terms and we find it incredable that they have even tried.

EDIT: The war is technically still going on, we are ready to bombard them with literally hundreds of ships and then invade.
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 16:51
i propose that you all stand down TDV is in every position to dictate terms, especially when your "war" doesn't hold water....

yes he insulted Cam111, but as long as he changes it you have no right to dictate terms to him... especially if he gets my support...
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:51
How about a compromise at 8 1/2 years. TDV has surrendered. You have accepted said surrender. Now it is negotiation, not more war. If a coalition force bombs TDV, they answer to me. Let's not break up about such a minor point.
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 16:52
Uh by Whom exactly?
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 16:52
Communist Poland. Am I to believe that you endorse both genocide and slavery? That is the current regime you support.
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 16:54
ugly girls.... and a few slaves that no-one wanted i mean come on at least they lived longer... it just seems like a pathetic n00b bash to me....
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:54
Communist Poland. Am I to believe that you endorse both genocide and slavery? That is the current regime you support.

I second that, and at the request of my ally I ceade the point. I will accept 8 1/2 years.

EDIT: CommunistPoland, so you actually are condoning them killing millions of their citizens?
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 16:55
fine screw it enjoy your little wank war....
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 16:56
Well I think thats settled - allied troops to be in place for 8.5 years, they we pull out.

Phoenixius naval assets are returning home now, with ocupation troops to be flown in shortly.
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 16:58
ugly girls.... and a few slaves that no-one wanted i mean come on at least they lived longer... it just seems like a pathetic n00b bash to me....

[Note: All contents of this message are OOC.]

Have you not read a SINGLE thread that Prateonia posted the links to for you? This is hardly a n00b bash. They threatened Praetonia and launched a nuclear weapon (which they shouldn't have had to begin with IMO).

TDV has committed genocide, openly practices slavery, and threatened countries with military action. There are VERY legitimate reasons for this war.

If you intervene, you will do so against an entire coalition of forces. I don't think you want to fight a multi-front war.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 16:59
The Praetonian Navy is also returning home, as are 2/3 of the troops. One Division will beleft there as peace-keeping troops, and to ensure that the transition to Demoracy goes as smoothly as possible.

EDIT: I agree with Sarzonia. Plus, I wasnt actually the one that started this war, that was Cam III, and he did it for very legitimate reasons. Have you read the thread? Or the links I posted on the thread? Before now he has threatened me with nulcear weapons for no real reason (it was on the "Why are there so many hippie leaders" thread) which I think has been deleted by mods. Anyway, his countrywill have sovereignty back RL tomorrow, all of our troops will be out by RL next Sunday. We could have divided his territories between us, but we didnt because that is needlessly imperialist, worng and is actually n00b bashing. What we have done is more than fair.
Cam III
15-05-2004, 17:01
OOC: I had to go, I missed loads...

IC: Cam III's troops were all transported to TDV's nation and implemented in everycity. This forces are:
Troops
500 Soldiers
250 Soldiers and Non-Coms
620 Machine Gunners-M60 machine gun
310 Anti-Air- FIM-92A Stinger Missile launchers
120 Anti-Vehicle-310, 200 w/SMAW Missile Launchers, 420 w/M220 TOW2 Missile Launchers
Armoured Divisions
280 MAVs and variants (3)
100 MAVs
170 Mobile Gun System MAVs
100 Anti-Tank MAVs
110 Self Propelled Howitzer MAVs
330 Infantry Carrying Vehicle MAVs
140 Engineering MAVs
330 Recon MAVs
210 CFAM LBT2 Koshi LBTs
140 T-7 Gilgamesh MBTs
Combat Engineers
470 Demolitions experts- 1 kg C-4
180 Engineers
450 Medics
Tanks
10 AEV-323 Mammoth Tanks
15 Bradley Fighting Vehicle/M3A2
Jordaxia
15-05-2004, 17:05
The small section of the Grand fleet deployed will be moving, with the exception of the IJN Kronos, who will patrol the coast for 1 year, to stop any smugglers hired to bring in weaponry for any hostile TDV resistance groups.
Communistpoland
15-05-2004, 17:08
ugly girls.... and a few slaves that no-one wanted i mean come on at least they lived longer... it just seems like a pathetic n00b bash to me....

[Note: All contents of this message are OOC.]

Have you not read a SINGLE thread that Prateonia posted the links to for you? This is hardly a n00b bash. They threatened Praetonia and launched a nuclear weapon (which they shouldn't have had to begin with IMO).

TDV has committed genocide, openly practices slavery, and threatened countries with military action. There are VERY legitimate reasons for this war.

If you intervene, you will do so against an entire coalition of forces. I don't think you want to fight a multi-front war.


erm CP isn't at war so i'd be one front, and yes i did read the threads... it still seems kinda pathetic to me.... as there are other nations that'd be more worthwile of your attention
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 17:11
Fair point, there are worse nations, but Cam III put out a call for help, and we answered it because it was a call for help against someone that had committed genocide and threatened us with nuclear weapons. You can hardly call that an empty threat when he actually launched one at me during this war.

He is getting his country back, our terms are not overly harsh, considering the circumstances.
Cam III
15-05-2004, 17:14
He is getting his country back

There will always be Cam III's forces there...
Phoenixius
15-05-2004, 17:16
And besides, there was little else going on at the time.
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 17:18
Sarzonia announced that its fleet assembled off the coast of TDV would return to port except for the Arizona class battleship Monitor. The ship would be part of a rotating force of patrol vessels that would patrol the area for seven years.
Praetonia
15-05-2004, 17:19
He is getting his country back

There will always be Cam III's forces there...

Yes, but he isnt out of the game or anything, he just has to RP a little differently.
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 17:21
erm CP isn't at war so i'd be one front, and yes i did read the threads... it still seems kinda pathetic to me.... as there are other nations that'd be more worthwile of your attention

YOU are one front. If you went to war with a coalition, the number of countries that are fighting the war. If, let's say you went to war against Praetonia, Jordaxia, and Sarzonia, you would be fighting on three fronts, assuming that your forces could reach all three countries.
Cam III
15-05-2004, 17:22
He is getting his country back

There will always be Cam III's forces there...

Yes, but he isnt out of the game or anything, he just has to RP a little differently.

I know, he will just have my troops in his city overseeing every action his govenment take...
Turetel
15-05-2004, 18:10
The Turetelian White Fleet has begun to pull out. The First Task Force will stay for 1 year to guard coastal areas (1 RL Day). We will detatch 3,000 Marines to try and assist in controlling the area.
Camewot
15-05-2004, 18:17
My naval squadron is pulling out.
I am deploying 1000 troops for the peacekeeping mission.
They will be spread all over the country.
Ruissia
15-05-2004, 18:29
OOC:Im sorry i couldnt help, as i have 56k and cant always stay logged on. Good job to you all
Ruissia
15-05-2004, 18:30
OOC:Im sorry i couldnt help, as i have 56k and cant always stay logged on. Good job to you all