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Jewish defense alliance (please support Israel and sign)

IDF
14-05-2004, 22:22
JEWISH DEFENSE ALLIANCE
An alliance for Jews or other supporters of Jews, equality, and the state of Israel.

Preamble: The Jewish people have been scapegoats and victims of racist nations and their policies. Most recently Greece and Cyrpus announced that in 2 months Jews will be arrested or killed. Therefore we must form a military and economic alliance to protect Israel and Jews everywhere.

Article I: Nature of the alliance
A. This alliance is both military and economic
B. This alliance will be formed to protect the Jews and Israel from all threats.
C. Force will be used when necessary
D. Muslim terrorist and Nazi terrorist groups will be targeted
E. Jewish terrorist groupd will be cracked down as they hurt our case.

Article II: how action occurs:
A. The pact is a democracy. Members can vote against joining a war effort that we become involved it. Group action is only by majority, but you are allowed to do it outside of the alliance or with other members if there is no vote.

B. There must be a good reason to launch a war. There must be a "Clear and Present Danger" on Israel or Jews for a war to be initiated.

Article III: ammending, this document can be ammened with a 2/3 majority.

Article IV: Ratification. This document goes in effect for your nation upon signage.
Xaniqall
14-05-2004, 22:33
Judaism is not the same as Zionism. Not all Jews are Israeli or support Israel.

Furthermore, Zionists have never been afraid to use violence, terrorism, war or frequent massacres to further their cause. Stop playing innocent.
IDF
14-05-2004, 22:34
Judaism is not the same as Zionism. Not all Jews are Israeli or support Israel.

Furthermore, Zionists have never been afraid to use violence, terrorism, war or frequent massacres to further their cause. Stop playing innocent.
Part of this alliance is supporting Israel, I know not all Jews are zionist
Edolia
14-05-2004, 22:35
Judaism is not the same as Zionism. Not all Jews are Israeli or support Israel.

Furthermore, Zionists have never been afraid to use violence, terrorism, war or frequent massacres to further their cause. Stop playing innocent.
"We wish to second the statements made by government representatives from Xanigall. We neither condemn nor condone Judaism -Edolia has a moderately large Jewish population- but are strongly against Zionism and will oppose it -along with any other form of racism or imperialism- whereever it is found."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Jaffakingcole
14-05-2004, 22:40
Most recently Greece and Cyrpus announced that in 2 months Jews will be arrested or killed.

Can you please provide references for this troubling statement?
Allanea
14-05-2004, 22:43
While we cannot join at the moment, we issue our statement of support and condemn the anti-semitic statement of the nation of Edolia - typical however it is.
Xaniqall
14-05-2004, 22:45
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.
Allanea
14-05-2004, 23:14
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.
Xaniqall
15-05-2004, 00:28
Zionism supports the right of a Jewish state in Palestine. To believe that they have a right to the land more so than the people living there seems pretty racist to me.

Currently Zionism is simply the support of Israel, and opposing the support of Israel is not anti-semitic. Many Jews oppose Zionism.
Triggermen
15-05-2004, 00:33
We are unable to join at the time, but think it's a great idea.
Truitt
15-05-2004, 00:41
Most Jewish people are agenst Zoinism, and also Isreal is considered a Jewish Nation, although it has three major populations of religion (Christians, Muzlims, Jews). And, although that I am agenst Neo Nazis, and Racist groups, I am agenst this.

And also, why do you belive Greece Cyprus said this? I belive you are probaly messin with our heads on that one :lol:
15-05-2004, 00:50
http://massmurder.zyns.com/baruch_goldstein.htm

Published on 25 February 1994, THE PHOENIX GAZETTE
DOZENS DIE IN ATTACK ON MOSQUE, RIOTS
WORSHIPERS ARE MOWED DOWN BY JEWISH SETTLER
An American immigrant armed with an automatic rifle mowed down dozens of Muslim worshipers as they knelt in prayer at a mosque today and then took his own life. The massacre ignited riots that spread throughout the occupied lands.

Hospital officials said 50 Palestinians were killed and 170 wounded in the mosque attack and subsequent riots, which spilled over into other West Bank towns, the Gaza Strip and the old walled city of Jerusalem. There was no estimate of how many people died inside the mosque.




That is what zionism and israel will get you...

We agree you have the right to defend yourself. However you do not have the right to attack other nations... Just because a group is vocally anti-semitic, that is their right. Until they actually physically harm you or your nation, you may not attack them.


Other than that, we support your idea for your unity movement.
15-05-2004, 00:52
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.


Jews can exist in an Arab controlled Palestine.

Although, as always will happen, one group will seek to destroy the other.


Israel should therefore from a racial preservation standpoint, attempt to maintain their unquestioned dominance in their territory.
Morathania
15-05-2004, 01:09
The Federation of Morathania would be abliged to enter into this alliance. Israel is a shining becon of democracy in an area ravaged by war, terrorism and dictatorship. I will support any measures that support Israel.
Colin Wixted
President of the Federation
Federation of Morathania
15-05-2004, 01:17
The Federation of Morathania would be abliged to enter into this alliance. Israel is a shining becon of democracy in an area ravaged by war, terrorism and dictatorship. I will support any measures that support Israel.
Colin Wixted
President of the Federation
Federation of Morathania


Israel has largely "Jew-only" areas. Areas where arabs are not allowed.
15-05-2004, 01:23
While the citizens of the FWS believe that world jewry is responsible for most of the evils in the history of the world, they have agreed to support the idea of the jews living in israel because in the words of a commerical tobacco farmer in central province, "If they're all in israel, then they can't bother us here."

The FWS therefore agrees to sign on. However, we want to see that the entire west bank and gaza are granted to the Arabs, also give them Gaza. Let Jerusalem be governed by the UN.
Xaniqall
15-05-2004, 01:28
srael is a shining becon of democracy in an area ravaged by war, terrorism and dictatorship.

The west creates artificial nations and establishes dictatorships, then it throws a new nation into the mix and claims its a beacon of democracy, when all Arab movements toward democracy were thwarted. Typical.
Morgain
15-05-2004, 01:39
Non-Jew Atheist Libertarian for Israel.

http://asups.ups.edu/fair/

-Morgan
IDF
15-05-2004, 04:13
OOC: I changed it to Jewish Defense Alliance.

NOte some said Zionism promotes terrorism, I've actually posted originally that zionist terror groups will be hunted down and prosecuted just like a Muslim terror group.

here documentation on Greece and Cyprus

Yes. Here are my responses. Judaism has been made illegal in my state and Synagogues will be dismantled over a 2 month period. Anyone breaching the new laws:

- Ban on all items relating to Judaism.
- Ban on being part of, or a party to Judaism.
- Ban on worshipping in accordance to the Jewish religion.

The Greek Parliament has just voted these laws in with a massive majority.

The punishment for breaking these laws will be 15 years in prison right up to the Death Penalty.

I tried to strike a deal, to be reasonable, now Im afraid I must resort to other means, as diplomatic means got me nowhere.

here is the link to this post
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143422&highlight=
IDF
15-05-2004, 04:16
srael is a shining becon of democracy in an area ravaged by war, terrorism and dictatorship.

The west creates artificial nations and establishes dictatorships, then it throws a new nation into the mix and claims its a beacon of democracy, when all Arab movements toward democracy were thwarted. Typical.

OOC: Xanigall please leave now, this is an IC thread, if you don't want to join, then leave, this is for people joining, not petty political debates and hijacking of threads. Leave nicely or meet a Mod.
15-05-2004, 04:26
Although our nation is currently undecided as to our stance on zionism and Israel, we are in complete agreement with your anti-anti-semetism proposal, and would gladly join military forces.
Josh Dollins
15-05-2004, 04:26
you have my nations support for Israel we have a rather limited setup on foreign affairs but this is something we certainly support, the existence of israel whom we will defend militarily and financially (but as I said in limited amount) you certainly have our vocal support as well!

hehe My country is just now coming out into foreign issues.

-Josh Dollins president of The united states of Josh Dollins
15-05-2004, 04:29
I support the existence of both Israel and Palestine (Palestine will be the west bank basically). Separate them by a large wall / chain of bunkers.

However then Palestine will have to relocate all jews to Israel, and Israel will have to relocate all arabs to Palestine.
IDF
15-05-2004, 04:59
bump
Edolia
15-05-2004, 05:09
While we cannot join at the moment, we issue our statement of support and condemn the anti-semitic statement of the nation of Edolia - typical however it is.
"We do not deign to respond to our barbarian neighbors in Allanea."
Matthew von Pickett
Minister for Foreign Affairs
Libericus
15-05-2004, 05:13
Israel has full support from my country. We shall defend the nation of Gods chosen people by any and all means necessary.

President Nick Flies of the Federation of Libericus
Morgain
15-05-2004, 09:18
some said Zionism promotes terrorism, I've actually posted originally that zionist terror groups will be hunted down and prosecuted just like a Muslim terror group.

Those "some" who said such are liars. We support Zionism, but if all you can give us is a watered down version, we'll take that too. The Constitutional Republic of Morgain can be expected to join any and all calls to arms, excepting the really silly ones, and even then, prolly those too.

-Morgan
Xaniqall
15-05-2004, 09:55
OOC: Xanigall please leave now, this is an IC thread, if you don't want to join, then leave, this is for people joining, not petty political debates and hijacking of threads.

OOC: That was my nation's official position.

IC: We will hereby be cutting trade with all nations in this alliance.
Rockfort
15-05-2004, 15:26
JEWISH DEFENSE ALLIANCE
An alliance for Jews or other supporters of Jews, equality, and the state of Israel.

Preamble: The Jewish people have been scapegoats and victims of racist nations and their policies. Most recently Greece and Cyrpus announced that in 2 months Jews will be arrested or killed. Therefore we must form a military and economic alliance to protect Israel and Jews everywhere.

Article I: Nature of the alliance
A. This alliance is both military and economic
B. This alliance will be formed to protect the Jews and Israel from all threats.
C. Force will be used when necessary
D. Muslim terrorist and Nazi terrorist groups will be targeted
E. Jewish terrorist groupd will be cracked down as they hurt our case.

Article II: how action occurs:
A. The pact is a democracy. Members can vote against joining a war effort that we become involved it. Group action is only by majority, but you are allowed to do it outside of the alliance or with other members if there is no vote.

B. There must be a good reason to launch a war. There must be a "Clear and Present Danger" on Israel or Jews for a war to be initiated.

Article III: ammending, this document can be ammened with a 2/3 majority.

Article IV: Ratification. This document goes in effect for your nation upon signage.

The Nation of Rockfort wishish to express our serious concernes about the level of stigmatisiation of muslims this pact would promote, thus we shall oppose its acceptance until we have clear insurances that the rights of palistinians will be viewed in good grace.

Edward Ashford
Foreign Minister
Rockfort
Jeruselem
15-05-2004, 15:32
What happened to the New Jewish Alliance (NJA)?
Dead again?
Byach
15-05-2004, 15:36
The Republic of Byach joins your cause, as the jewish people make up a significant majority of Byach.

-Z.S, President of Byach
15-05-2004, 15:42
If Jews are so concerned abouit equallity why do they discourage Jews from breeding with non-Jews but encourage everyone else?
It is kind of peculiar that Jews have been given the boot from many countries in Europe over the centuries. I am sure its not their fault at all right? Everyone loves parasites!
15-05-2004, 16:48
I really can't believe that IDF attacked me (conventional and nuclear attacks) for proposing an anti zealot alliance, then goes and forms this, and you say you will persecute jewish terrorists the same way you treat muslim terrorists....... I'm sorry to break it to you, but not all terrorists are muslims.....
Japaica
15-05-2004, 16:57
To IDF:

Being Jewish, and living in Montomery County, Maryland, which has the 3rd largest pop. of Jews in the world, (New York being #1 and Israel being #2), I know of the hate against Jews. I fully support the cause and I WISH TO JOIN AND BECOME A MEMBER TO SUPPORT THIS CAUSE

Please state the current members every so often. Send my best wishes to Alberio.
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 17:08
WOODSTOCK (ASP) -- President Mike Sarzo announced that the Incorporated States of Sarzonia would join the Jewish Defense Alliance after Parliament approved the measure.

"While we have some reservations about supporting Zionism, we support the rights of the Jewish state to exist and to defend itself from attack," Sarzo said in the press room in the Gray House. "We will join the Alliance as a show of support to Judaism and we note that we have a significant Jewish minority in Sarzonia."

Debate raged in Parliament for nine hours before House Majority Leader Josh Williams finally introduced legislation that would limit Sarzonia's involvement in wars to ones that were "unquestionably justified" by a majority vote in Parliament.

"We don't want to rush off into a war just because we've joined an alliance," Williams said. "But we will be willing to commit ourselves when the time is right."

The Senate approved the measure 19-17, while the House of Delegates approved it 136-131. Sarzo signed the legislation after consulting with Senior Vice President for External Affairs Mark Lorber by cell phone with Lorber in Praetonia.

"Mark and I had a long conversation and he agreed with me that we should be careful," Sarzo said. "But ultimately, it didn't take him too much convincing of me to decide that this is the right thing to do."
Sarzonia
15-05-2004, 17:12
IC: We will hereby be cutting trade with all nations in this alliance.

OOC: Wow. I'm crushed. That's big of you... anger enough nations to wipe you off the face of the Earth. A lot of good that will do your economy.

And for those countries (Sarzonia included) that don't trade with you to begin with, that's hardly a loss.
IDF
16-05-2004, 04:29
fine I never traded with Xanigall and am crushed. As for the Palestinian issue, we will pursue a 2 state plan as it is in no one's interest for the Israeli's and Palestinians to be in a war. We will actually like to return to 1966 borders, but Golan will be ours (was syrian, not Palestinian) it will be kept for strategic defense purposes
Sarda
16-05-2004, 04:32
Just wanted to wish you guys luck with this ;) I'm an ethnic Jew, come Buddhist myself ;) If you ever need any help, call on me, and if it's more serious, the Sardaukar Confederacy will try and help ;)
IDF
16-05-2004, 04:47
bump
IDF
16-05-2004, 05:28
OOC: Our main enemy won't be Muslims. We must try to make peace with the Muslims if we wish to thrive. I have many Muslim allies in this game as well as RL friends (including my Policy debate Partner) who are Muslim. But, to insure peace, the extremist on both sides must be eliminated.

Our main enemy will be the Facist states. They are popping up all over.(mainly through puppeteering) No peace can be made with them and they must be crushed.d
IDF
16-05-2004, 05:36
bump
Glycol
16-05-2004, 05:42
The country of Glycol will back the Jewish Defence Alliance. Even though the most recent census revealed that that people of that follow the religion of Judisim make up a small part part of Glycol's population you still have our support.
IDF
16-05-2004, 05:43
The country of Glycol will back the Jewish Defence Alliance. Even though the most recent census revealed that that people of that follow the religion of Judisim make up a small part part of Glycol's population you still have our support.

Thank you
IDF
16-05-2004, 05:47
If Jews are so concerned abouit equallity why do they discourage Jews from breeding with non-Jews but encourage everyone else?
It is kind of peculiar that Jews have been given the boot from many countries in Europe over the centuries. I am sure its not their fault at all right? Everyone loves parasites!

take your anti-semetic **** to the KKK, not here.
Callisdrun
16-05-2004, 06:01
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.

We would like to point out that "anti-semitic" means anti-arab as well as anti-jew as arabs are also semites.

I am not anti-jew, anti-semitic, or even anti-Israel. I just disagree with the Israeli government about several things.
IDF
16-05-2004, 15:43
bump
Xaniqall
16-05-2004, 21:55
fine I never traded with Xanigall and am crushed.

We said all nations involved, not just yours.

As for the Palestinian issue, we will pursue a 2 state plan as it is in no one's interest for the Israeli's and Palestinians to be in a war.

We believe a one state federalist sytem would be better for both parties, as two states would continue the war.
IDF
16-05-2004, 22:28
fine I never traded with Xanigall and am crushed.

We said all nations involved, not just yours.

As for the Palestinian issue, we will pursue a 2 state plan as it is in no one's interest for the Israeli's and Palestinians to be in a war.

We believe a one state federalist sytem would be better for both parties, as two states would continue the war.

Well you aren't a member of the pact and never will be so your opinion will not have any meaning in our alliance
IDF
16-05-2004, 22:52
bump
Acre Union
17-05-2004, 00:38
Acre Union will join this alliance.
IDF
17-05-2004, 02:36
bump
IDF
18-05-2004, 01:34
I propose a war against the FWS and his allies.
IDF
22-05-2004, 16:41
bump
Japanese Antarctica
22-05-2004, 16:44
Japanese Antarctica will comit a limited number of troops should war break out.
GHI
22-05-2004, 16:45
I believe this proposal will create more death and destruction than what is already caused in the world today. Therefore I will not support it if it goes through.
IDF
22-05-2004, 17:22
We aren't going to war against FWS seeing as how we and everyone else ignored his sorry ***.
IDF
23-05-2004, 04:07
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3170728&highlight=#3170728
OUr arab enemies are forming an alliance to kill us. We must destroy the Arabs who wish our demise, but make peace with those who don't Eastrive is going to become a nation of glass
Qen Land
23-05-2004, 04:18
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3170728&highlight=#3170728
OUr arab enemies are forming an alliance to kill us. We must destroy the Arabs who wish our demise, but make peace with those who don't Eastrive is going to become a nation of glass

Its like there no one in that alliance!
Qen Land
23-05-2004, 04:19
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3170728&highlight=#3170728
OUr arab enemies are forming an alliance to kill us. We must destroy the Arabs who wish our demise, but make peace with those who don't Eastrive is going to become a nation of glass
I don't think hes not a Arab.
IDF
23-05-2004, 04:22
Kilean
23-05-2004, 04:38
count Kilean in as an observer. historically, many important 1900's zionists were Kileanishe, and we have close military ties with israel.
23-05-2004, 04:53
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.

We would like to point out that "anti-semitic" means anti-arab as well as anti-jew as arabs are also semites.

I am not anti-jew, anti-semitic, or even anti-Israel. I just disagree with the Israeli government about several things.


But what if somebody is already living where you want your home to be???

Aren't the Palestinians people too?
Eshli
23-05-2004, 05:24
The Holy Empire of Eshli proudly announces her joining to this alliance and praises the author of this alliance.

Furthermore, We wish to convey our solidarity with the Israeli people. We believe that zionism is not racism and that these racist arab whelps who would like nothing more than to destroy Israel should try to focus on their own nations and advancing their people out of the dark ages rather than focusing on killing Jews. However, we also promote a two-state plan, with the quid-pro-quo that Jerusalem remain under Jewish control, and that the founding of a Palestinian State leads to permanent, real peace and that Palestine becomes a true democracy with free and open elections. I would appreciate it if these Arab whiners who spout off at the mouth with propaganda prove their statements before thay say things. thank you. This also goes with those who just spout Pro-Israel propaganda as well. Even though i am an UNCONDITIONAL supporter of Israel I do not kid myself that NONE of the things the arabs say are true, SOME of them are.


AM YISRAEL CHAI

Dan Sanders
Foreign Minister of Eshli
IDF
23-05-2004, 05:25
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.

We would like to point out that "anti-semitic" means anti-arab as well as anti-jew as arabs are also semites.

I am not anti-jew, anti-semitic, or even anti-Israel. I just disagree with the Israeli government about several things.


But what if somebody is already living where you want your home to be???

Aren't the Palestinians people too?
It is a view of this alliance that there must be 2 states in order for peace to occur. The primary goal of this alliance is to make peace without force and resort to it only when diplomacy is impossible
23-05-2004, 06:16
Anti-semitic? Utter nonsense! To oppose the Zionist movement is not the same as being anti-semitic, suggesting such is simply an attempt to quiet criticism of Israel.

Zionism is the belief Jews have the right for a national home.

To believe the Jews don't have the right to independence is obsecen and anti-semitic.

We would like to point out that "anti-semitic" means anti-arab as well as anti-jew as arabs are also semites.

I am not anti-jew, anti-semitic, or even anti-Israel. I just disagree with the Israeli government about several things.


But what if somebody is already living where you want your home to be???

Aren't the Palestinians people too?
It is a view of this alliance that there must be 2 states in order for peace to occur. The primary goal of this alliance is to make peace without force and resort to it only when diplomacy is impossible


Sounds reasonable.
IDF
23-05-2004, 06:21
Good news to report. The Ottoman alliance, the Arab rival to this alliance has signed a peace treaty with us via TG. I recommend all member nations vote aye for this treaty. I know Ottoman Sultan, the head of the alliance and he is an honorable man to deal with. I recommend ratification. We have reached a major goal, peace with friendly Arab nations.
IDF
23-05-2004, 22:47
I want this deal up for a vote now.

I'm voting AYE
Ottoman Sultan
24-05-2004, 02:13
Good news to report. The Ottoman alliance, the Arab rival to this alliance has signed a peace treaty with us via TG. I recommend all member nations vote aye for this treaty. I know Ottoman Khaif, the head of the alliance and he is an honorable man to deal with. I recommend ratification. We have reached a major goal, peace with friendly Arab nations.
Just a note
Ottoman Khaif is a member of the alliance.
I Ottoman Sultan am the Head and Founder of the Alliance.
Kerubia
24-05-2004, 02:26
Receiving transmission from Grand Executor Justin Timme of the Empire of Kerubia

http://www.freewebs.com/golaniv/kerubseal.gif

Kerubia will gladly take part in this alliance. We sympathize with the Jewish population over the slaughters and atrocities committed against them. As such, we are more than willing to lend economic and military aid, be it against Muslim extremists, Nazis, or any other scum.
IDF
24-05-2004, 04:52
Good news to report. The Ottoman alliance, the Arab rival to this alliance has signed a peace treaty with us via TG. I recommend all member nations vote aye for this treaty. I know Ottoman Khaif, the head of the alliance and he is an honorable man to deal with. I recommend ratification. We have reached a major goal, peace with friendly Arab nations.
Just a note
Ottoman Khaif is a member of the alliance.
I Ottoman Sultan am the Head and Founder of the Alliance.

Sorry :oops: I'm editing the post.

Did you make a similar post in your alliance thread?
Ottoman Sultan
24-05-2004, 05:01
Good news to report. The Ottoman alliance, the Arab rival to this alliance has signed a peace treaty with us via TG. I recommend all member nations vote aye for this treaty. I know Ottoman Khaif, the head of the alliance and he is an honorable man to deal with. I recommend ratification. We have reached a major goal, peace with friendly Arab nations.
Just a note
Ottoman Khaif is a member of the alliance.
I Ottoman Sultan am the Head and Founder of the Alliance.

Sorry :oops: I'm editing the post.

Did you make a similar post in your alliance thread?

Thats ok.

yes i did post something similar in my thread.
Weapons-Tech incorp
24-05-2004, 05:36
i will provide military support through the giving of weapons and A.C combat units. I will also send 300 Genome battle soldiers
-weapons
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-A.C.s(provided by Global Cortex inc.)
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-genome soldier(corporate forces.)
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Sovatec
24-05-2004, 11:41
We have held an election here in Sovatec. 72% of our population supports this. Sovatec will join this alliance. Our population is 42% Jewish, last census, and we have many Jews in the military and government, including me. Let it be noted at this time that I am not joining this alliance for help in the war I have with the Kingdom of Former Sovateca, but to support Israel. I would also like to note for any one in this forum, either against or for, there are no NO ARAB areas. There are NO PALESTINIAN areas. Arabs make up a part of the Knesset and they are everywhere in Israel. Another technical fact is that Zionism is NEVER racism. Arabs and Jews are the same race, except for a few Khazars thrown into the Jewish midst. Thank you, and God bless Israel.

President Sand
New Washington
The United States of Sovatec
Former Sovatecan Empire

P.S. - If someone would recommend a good low to medium price storefront, we would be grateful. We still use Thompsons, BARs, M-1s, and M-1A1s.
IDF
25-05-2004, 00:25
Note to members, I don't expect to see anything major to occur in ways of military action against anyone but nazis right now.

I urge all of you to vote on the resolution for a treaty with Ottoman Sultan's group.

CURRENT VOTES

2 AYE
0 NO
- ABS
IDF
25-05-2004, 00:42
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=147715&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

We have an anti-Christian/Jewish alliance forming to kick us out of Israel. I made a unilateral ultimatum threatening war, I urge all to join if neccesary. We must beat this group back to the stoneage.
Sovatec
25-05-2004, 00:52
In response to both of the former IDF posts, on behalf of President Sand and the people of the USS, we vote Yea on the peace with Ottoman Sultan's group. We will also fight the good fight for Israel. We have made peace with the KFS, which is now under our control, through a coup. They will post soon, officially joining the alliance. The enemies of Israel shall face the wrath of Adonai and the wrath of the United States of Sovatec!

Secretary of Defense Johnson
New Washington
United States of Sovatec
Former Sovatecan Empire
Sovatec
25-05-2004, 00:52
In response to both of the former IDF posts, on behalf of President Sand and the people of the USS, we vote Yea on the peace with Ottoman Sultan's group. We will also fight the good fight for Israel. We have made peace with the KFS, which is now under our control, through a coup. They will post soon, officially joining the alliance. The enemies of Israel shall face the wrath of Adonai and the wrath of the United States of Sovatec!

Secretary of Defense Johnson
New Washington
United States of Sovatec
Former Sovatecan Empire
IDF
26-05-2004, 03:33
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IDF
27-05-2004, 02:46
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Amanase Atma
27-05-2004, 04:29
The nation of amanase atma would wish to enter into this alliance for the state of Israel.

Let it be known that perhaps, in the future, this alliance may not only be for a fight for Israel, but against fascism and racism in general.

We as a nation acknowledge Israel's right to Exist.

We as Humans acknowledge the jews right to Exist

We as learned people understand that in the very creation of the state of Israel it was already said that there will be a Palestinian state.

We as people who are not blind see that the Palestinians have turned this down many times.

We as thinkers understand that the only possible motivation for this, is that the Palestinians do not want a state. They want Israel and the jews out.

And we as realists, moralists, idealists, and dreamers, understand that this is an impossibility.

The nazis were what they were, and the sad truth is that they are what they are.

While the nation of amanase atma completely supports this venture, we are a nation of peace, and unfortunately, of poverty. We will offer any possible aid, which will mostly take the form of diplomatic services.

While peace is the ultimate goal for amanase atma, it is simply an impossibility as long as fascist states remain.

Fascism by nature only breeds the worst of the worst.

It is a law of fascism that the needs of the country, an intangible nothing, outweigh the needs of the citizen, a real person. This is unacceptable.

As soon as nationalism on this scale exists only war and racism can follow.

While I am not suggesting war (and I will never suggest war except in the most dire of circumstances) fascism must stop.

The very name of amanase atma means "peace of the soul" and that is what this nation strives for and as long as we have Fascists suggesting that the jews or the state of Israel is responsible for war and death, there can be no peace.

The souls of this nation cried out at the news that greece and cyprus would start ethnic cleansing.

The simple fact is Fascism and racism must stop and if it means the end of our policy of peace, or even our existence as a nation, so be it!
IDF
28-05-2004, 00:36
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IDF
28-05-2004, 00:36
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Emo and Punk
28-05-2004, 00:40
The Fre Land of Emo and Punk has a population of 1.4 billion jews. We will gladly support you in peace and war.
IDF
28-05-2004, 04:15
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IDF
28-05-2004, 04:15
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Hirgizstan
28-05-2004, 18:13
The Dictatorship of Hirgizstan and its Commonwealth of Nations wishes to join the Jewsih Defence Alliance. We are not a Jewish nation by any means, but we do have a sizeable amount of Jewish people within the State as a whole.

However, i would like to express some ideological concerns. Hirgizstan is run by the Fuhrer, a grandoise name for 'Leader', and nothing to do with a certain German who went by the same title. Hirgizstan also considers itself to be a nation with extreme right wing views, verging on Fascism. However, we would like to point out that Fascism is not necessarily racist and it is NOT National Socialism. Fasicism is a freak in the world of ideologies, originally coined by Mussolini it remains the vaguest political ideology. It stresses a strong National Community, strong leadership, strong armed forces and above all National Strength and Unity. Mussolini's fasicism did not turn into a racist conception until he began to liase with one, Adolf Hitler. Hirgizstan for that is not a strictly fascist, more strongly Nationalist with some fascist elements, such as National Community. Hirgizstan is STRONGLY anti-racist. Racism is a sign of weakness and fear, and under racism we class anti-semitism. Thus Hirgizstan has a wide variety of people's and culture that all enter into the strength that th National Community advocates.

As such, we believe Israel's position and we respect it. Hirgizstan wishes to enter into this alliance.

-Ministry of Foreign Military Affairs-

-HIRGIZSTAN-
IDF
28-05-2004, 21:10
The Dictatorship of Hirgizstan and its Commonwealth of Nations wishes to join the Jewsih Defence Alliance. We are not a Jewish nation by any means, but we do have a sizeable amount of Jewish people within the State as a whole.

However, i would like to express some ideological concerns. Hirgizstan is run by the Fuhrer, a grandoise name for 'Leader', and nothing to do with a certain German who went by the same title. Hirgizstan also considers itself to be a nation with extreme right wing views, verging on Fascism. However, we would like to point out that Fascism is not necessarily racist and it is NOT National Socialism. Fasicism is a freak in the world of ideologies, originally coined by Mussolini it remains the vaguest political ideology. It stresses a strong National Community, strong leadership, strong armed forces and above all National Strength and Unity. Mussolini's fasicism did not turn into a racist conception until he began to liase with one, Adolf Hitler. Hirgizstan for that is not a strictly fascist, more strongly Nationalist with some fascist elements, such as National Community. Hirgizstan is STRONGLY anti-racist. Racism is a sign of weakness and fear, and under racism we class anti-semitism. Thus Hirgizstan has a wide variety of people's and culture that all enter into the strength that th National Community advocates.

As such, we believe Israel's position and we respect it. Hirgizstan wishes to enter into this alliance.

-Ministry of Foreign Military Affairs-

-HIRGIZSTAN-

if you are anti-racist, then you will be fine.
Magdha
28-05-2004, 21:55
I would like to sign.
IDF
29-05-2004, 02:04
I would like to sign.
we welcome you and your new government
Magdha
29-05-2004, 02:09
I would like to sign.
we welcome you and your new government

Thank you.
Western Asia
29-05-2004, 06:25
The NJA has existed since mid last summer, although it hasn't been amazingly active recently. The NJA, or New Jewish Alliance, seems to have filled many (but perhaps not exactly) of the roles you describe.

WA will be happy to engage with this groups on the same terms as the NJA: If this group needs aid for a worthy cause we will be there with all necessary force.
IDF
29-05-2004, 06:35
The NJA has existed since mid last summer, although it hasn't been amazingly active recently. The NJA, or New Jewish Alliance, seems to have filled many (but perhaps not exactly) of the roles you describe.

WA will be happy to engage with this groups on the same terms as the NJA: If this group needs aid for a worthy cause we will be there with all necessary force.

I wouldn't mind a merger here to increase our strength
Hirgizstan
29-05-2004, 17:34
Yes, as you can see we are anti-racist.
Acre Union
29-05-2004, 21:41
Please, someone help the Acre Union the War against the scum off the Holy Land.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=148492&start=60
Western Asia
29-05-2004, 22:16
The NJA has existed since mid last summer, although it hasn't been amazingly active recently. The NJA, or New Jewish Alliance, seems to have filled many (but perhaps not exactly) of the roles you describe.

WA will be happy to engage with this groups on the same terms as the NJA: If this group needs aid for a worthy cause we will be there with all necessary force.

I wouldn't mind a merger here to increase our strength

You will have to speak to the NJA, I am sure they'd be happy to help.

(OOC:if you look a few pages back in a by-topic search of my history you might find the thread renewing it all...I don't have the time personally right now. One issue which might prevent WA from aiding your causes is if I don't recognize the attacking or defending nation...already several ignored nations seem to stand in your RP circles. If they improve I'd consider recognizing them but until then they simply don't exist.)
ELH United
29-05-2004, 22:23
we are glad to report that we no longer have any jews in our region

we are all aetheists, god is not a figure that we worship nemore, all of the citizens in my nations worship me
Gulag No 443
29-05-2004, 22:23
Gulag No 443 will happilly join the Jewish Defense Alliance, allthough currently it is involved in four wars, so contribution will be minor.
Stong Bah
29-05-2004, 22:44
The ruler of Stong Bah is Jewish and DOESN'T SUPPORT ISRAEL! They can relocate any Jewish state somewhere else, so why not? So those stupid Orthodox bastards can tell us we can't pray at THEIR West Wall?
IDF
30-05-2004, 06:16
The ruler of Stong Bah is Jewish and DOESN'T SUPPORT ISRAEL! They can relocate any Jewish state somewhere else, so why not? So those stupid Orthodox bastards can tell us we can't pray at THEIR West Wall?

I'm controlling Israel here and my government is run by Reform Jews. There are no restrictions of any kind at the wall. It is the people's wall.
IDF
04-06-2004, 16:12
We are now declaring a war on Nazis. Round up any in your nation that are a threat. I also think we must resort to Mossad like tactics in the capture of Internation Nazi leaders. Use methods similar to Israeli capture of Adolf Eichman
Sicily1991
04-06-2004, 16:53
We sign and vote aye for botht he Ottoman alliance and a war against Nazis.
Sicily1991
04-06-2004, 16:53
We sign and vote aye for botht he Ottoman alliance and a war against Nazis.
Sovatec
16-06-2004, 15:07
We have arrested all Nazis within our great nation and are preparing for war. We may have a problem where we have promised our semi-autonomous colony, Former Sovateca, with aid against some people called the 'Invading Warriors' who want to "Cleanse our region of Jews." As the Former Sovatecans use a six-point star on their flag, they are being targeted. There is a military buildup on their border and they have evacuated that section of the country by order of their king. We vote aye for war with the Nazis and request that you help us in 'persuading' the Invading Warriors not to invade.

Thank you, and Baruch haBenim Yisrael

Office of the Prime Minister
New Washington, Sovatec
Former Sovatecan Empire
Jeruselem
16-06-2004, 15:11
We are members of the NJA and wish to join the Jewish Defense Alliance.
IDF
16-06-2004, 15:12
I want to join NJA also, can I please get a link to the thread for it?
Jeruselem
16-06-2004, 15:23
I want to join NJA also, can I please get a link to the thread for it?

Probably buried under 7 billion threads ... hopefully some other member will know where it is. :oops:
IDF
16-06-2004, 15:24
I want to join NJA also, can I please get a link to the thread for it?

Probably buried under 7 billion threads ... hopefully some other member will know where it is. :oops:
OK
Free Pennsylvania
16-06-2004, 15:38
In an act of the Constitutional Monarchy of Free Pennsylvania:

Recognizing the grievances of both Israelis and Palestinians
Realizing the terror caused by both sides
Acknowledging that the Palestinians have the right to live
Knowing of the so-called 'suicide' and 'homicide' bombings caused by Palestinians
Understanding that Zionism cannot, by definition, be racism, for Arabs and Jews are of the same race.
Recognizing that there are many peaceful Arabs that are currently citizens of the state of Israel
Knowing that Arabic, Hebrew, and English are the official languages of Israel
Realizing that members of the so-called 'Palestinian Authority (PA)' and/or 'Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO)' are considered terrorists in all surrounding countries, including the Chairman Yasir Arafat.
Understanding that the Jews are the most persecuted people in the History of the entire Earth
Acknowledging that the mandate of both the PA and the PLO calls for the destruction of the state of Israel
Understanding the both sides lay claim to the land now known as 'Israel' and 'Palestine'
Realizing that almost every dictator in the Middle East (Including but not limited to the Saud family, the ousted Saddam Hussein regime, and the ousted Taliban) has blamed the problems of their countries (Including but not limited to Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan) on the State of Israel
Acknoweldging that Israel is a Democracy
Understanding that the West Bank and Gaza Strip are a dictatorship.

Heretoforth sign in to the Jewish Defense Alliance for the protection of the State of Israel and the pursuit of a goal that would satisfy both Palestinian and Israeli needs and wishes and gain peace in the region.
Peripheral
16-06-2004, 15:47
I will sign on