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A defector from the FWS to a neighboring nation has exposed the alarming program of Missile development going on in the FWS.

classified number of Of classified chemical agent, range classified also, only acknowledging we have it. Agent "RVX"

100 Sarin IRBM (range 3,000 miles)
30 Sarin ICBM (Range 12,000 miles)
20 Nuclear Triple Punch Class IV Missles (range 16,000 miles, holds nine warheads in the cone, each can wipe out a city, this is a multiple warhead weapon)
60 Nuclear IRBM Class III Missiles (range 8,000 miles, 3 warheads in each).
80 Cold-war era Atomic Bombs. Each about 5 megaton yield.
2000 missiles not devoted to any NBC (range varies from 500-12,000 miles) There are basically standard cruise missiles, but can be equipped with any warheads.

you are a nation of 6 million there is NO way you can afford/made all this, therefore, you are ignored.

You're 2 days old. In no way do you have those weapons.
Come back when you're not godmodding.

I'm not in the mood for n00bs

Sorry, you're too young.

1000 MT bombs would destroy the Earth. Too big. The US and UK have, at the most, 15 MT.

Sorry, you're too young.

1000 MT bombs would destroy the Earth. Too big. The US and UK have, at the most, 15 MT.

Well okay, so i did go over board. let me modify this then :)

I edited it, I hope you approve. I am sorry, but remember I am new, so cut me a little slack please :)

Also remember my nation is rich in uranium and our economy is strong.

You are way to young to have these weapons.

Sorry, you're too young.

1000 MT bombs would destroy the Earth. Too big. The US and UK have, at the most, 15 MT.

Well okay, so i did go over board. let me modify this then :)

you cant have ANY wmd at all. only when you get to be 100 million you can have some.

you are a nation of 6 million there is NO way you can afford/made all this, therefore, you are ignored.

Historically south africa in the 80s had such a program, and they only had 5 million whites who were paying into the program. So i think if it can be done in the real world, it can be done in a game.

We see that it is relatively easy to develop WMDS and the army, that is when you ignore most other things a nation should provide its people. Such as education etc.

Historically south africa in the 80s had such a program, and they only had 5 million whites who were paying into the program. So i think if it can be done in the real world, it can be done in a game.
For most things to do with this game, that is true - however, for WMDs, the 100-million rule applies because if a nation gets to that age, then they're not likely to be the n00bish type to just buy up 'n00k bomz' on their first day - Not saying you are one, just if people let you have these weapons, we'd have to allow every 2-day-old nation to have them, and then things would get really annoying.

Historically south africa in the 80s had such a program, and they only had 5 million whites who were paying into the program. So i think if it can be done in the real world, it can be done in a game.
For most things to do with this game, that is true - however, for WMDs, the 100-million rule applies because if a nation gets to that age, then they're not likely to be the n00bish type to just buy up 'n00k bomz' on their first day - Not saying you are one, just if people let you have these weapons, we'd have to allow every 2-day-old nation to have them, and then things would get really annoying.

Okay, sounds reasonable.



We as of now have only 5 paracommando regiments, and only 2 light infantry divisions, 1 parachute division, 1 armored, 1 mechanized, 2 horse brigades... We do have lots of reservists and militias though :)

Below are my goals for development of defense forces. I expect to reach these goals within 100-150 days. Is that reasonable?
Army

10 Paracommando regiments (1,000 each)
3 armored Divisions (18,000 each)
3 horse mounted Brigades (5,000 each)
2 airborne paratrooper divisions (18,000 each)
5 light infantry airmobile divisions (18,000 each)
3 mechanized infantry divisions (18,000 each)
1000 organized militia / reservists regiments (1,000 each) (Technically all white males are in reserves or militia)
Knights Of the Teutonic Order (Strength Classified)
Secret Police (Strength Classified)
City police, and other Law Enforcement (100,000)
4 regiments of Fascist Grenadier Guards (2,500 each)


Air force

800 Mi-17
400 Apache attack helicopters
600 Mi-24 Hinds
300 “Elephant” Transport Craft
400 MiG-29
200 MiG-31
135 F-14
300 F-15
410 F-16
200 Mirage 2000
150 Joint Strike Fighter
100 EuroFighter
400 various transports (C-130s, etc)

Navy

5 Verwoerd Class Super Carriers
3 Smuts class Super Carriers
46 Ian Smith Class Heavy Destroyers
108 Gustavus Class Interceptor Destroyers
68 Wilhelm Class Frigates
27 Rhodes Class Heavy Cruisers
12 Crusader Class SSBN Submarines
36 Templar Class Attack Submarines
300 “others” (supply ships, spy ships, cargo, transport, troop ships etc)

Missiles

10,000 Sarin IRBM (range 3,000 miles)
3,500 Sarin ICBM (Range 12,000 miles)
250 Nuclear Triple Punch Class IV Missles (range 16,000 miles, holds nine warheads in the cone, each can wipe out a city, this is a multiple warhead weapon)
650 Nuclear IRBM Class III Missiles (range 8,000 miles, 3 warheads in each).
800 Atomic Bombs. Each about 10 megaton yield.
1 “Alpha-Omega” bomb. It is about 1000 megaton yield (we use this if we have lost a war and are being wiped out) The doomsday bomb. If you are going to attack and I have developed it, you better send spec ops to take out the bunker it is stored in.
25,000 generic missiles not devoted to any NBC (range varies from

Don't talk in terms of days, talk in terms of population...perferably in units of US population :lol:.

Okay, about your air force, I strongly object to your use of F-14 (naval) and Mirage 2000 (old and being replaced by something generally considered inferior to the Eurofighter).

I also advise you not to use both the MiG-31 and the F-15...make it either/or. Or better yet, make something better than both and deploy it in smaller numbers, like the F-22, or [subliminal advertising]my ZF-27.

The MiG-29 and the F-16 are similar, although the MiG-29 is technically air superiority, so probably shouldn't be used at all, especially with the Eurofighter in your arsenal. F-16s should make way for the JSF or ZaS-42, both of which cost only a little more and are much more effective.

And please don't just say various transports ;).

If you purchase within the week, I will approve your orders for both of my transport aircraft, the C-71 incredibly large box wing cargo(180 tons) and the C-240 supersonic medium cargo.

C71
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131905&highlight=

C240
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127367&highlight=

It's also my opinion you should cut down on your nuclear stockpile. Very expensive to maintain, and if you don't have all the glassing power you need with 300 ICBMs...well, you've got some pretty big enemies.

As for the navy, I suggest much more carriers and much less destroyers. The US has 12 carriers, and since your nuclear arsenal is suggestive of more than a US population, you should have perhaps 20 carriers, and oh...80 tops destroyers?

There should also generally be more cruisers than frigates, which are largely being deemed useless now in more developed navies. Anyone can make a frigate - Spain, Sweden, France, Korea, India...few can make a supercarrier.

Also, please don't tell me you've got the Teutonic Knights...trained heavy swordsman infantry aren't of much use anymore ;)...

Don't talk in terms of days, talk in terms of population...perferably in units of US population :lol:.

Okay, about your air force, I strongly object to your use of F-14 (naval) and Mirage 2000 (old and being replaced by something generally considered inferior to the Eurofighter).

I also advise you not to use both the MiG-31 and the F-15...make it either/or. Or better yet, make something better than both and deploy it in smaller numbers, like the F-22, or [subliminal advertising]my ZF-27.

The MiG-29 and the F-16 are similar, although the MiG-29 is technically air superiority, so probably shouldn't be used at all, especially with the Eurofighter in your arsenal. F-16s should make way for the JSF or ZaS-42, both of which cost only a little more and are much more effective.

And please don't just say various transports ;).

If you purchase within the week, I will approve your orders for both of my transport aircraft, the C-71 incredibly large box wing cargo(180 tons) and the C-240 supersonic medium cargo.


I'll buy any transport good for paracommando units. We prefer C-130s

We will buy your planes though. :) What do you want in exchange? Uranium mine contracts, bribes? what?
C71
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131905&highlight=

C240
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127367&highlight=

A defector from the FWS to a neighboring nation has exposed the alarming program of Missile development going on in the FWS.


he/she never says he has the weapons just that he/she Development it dont mean he has them just that he makeing them (or trying to)

Well, the C-71 is so huge it isn't really effective for dropping paras, but the C-240 is...it can tug around something like 112 (don't remember) paras at supersonic speeds.

:shock: I'm negotiating a deal with FWS? Jeez...well, you're certainly not an annoying noob, but realize I am in every way against your government.

If we asked for anything in exchange, it would probably be uranium mine contracts, just so you can't get the uranium to other nations we would deem less trustworthy ;)

Well, the C-71 is so huge it isn't really effective for dropping paras, but the C-240 is...it can tug around something like 112 (don't remember) paras at supersonic speeds.

:shock: I'm negotiating a deal with FWS? Jeez...well, you're certainly not an annoying noob, but realize I am in every way against your government.

If we asked for anything in exchange, it would probably be uranium mine contracts, just so you can't get the uranium to other nations we would deem less trustworthy ;)

I will give you 2 billion dollars and affirm that my uranium will stay within my region alliance. I want 100 C-240s

Deal?

$2bn for a hundred C-240 aircraft?...well, I could sell you a hundred F-16s for that much, not a hundred C-240...

$2bn for a hundred C-240 aircraft?...well, I could sell you a hundred F-16s for that much, not a hundred C-240...

4 billion, plus 1,000 lbs of uranium?