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we are wishing to establish a strong world naval presence. I want to buy 4 islands or parts of islands for naval, army, and AF bases.

We need the land to be along the beach and navigable all year round by ships of 90 foot drafts. (don't have any yet, but I want my subs to approach submerged) We will help pay for dredging operations.

We want 1 in the Atlantic, 1 in the Pacific, 1 in the Indian Ocean, and 1 in Antarctica (preferably in a fjord where it will be hidden.

We need at least 100 sq miles for each base.

OOC: The purchase of the Antarctica base is to be in secret IC: not in the open.

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this is free money, just say you have an island and sell it for the love of G-d

OOC: I think that most people are either unwilling to sell strategic islands that they control (like myself, as WA controls a good number of small island bases) or are unaware of the strategic importance of islands as forward operating bases...

Western Asia surely you will be willing to help a fellow Israel here with the same foreign policy goals.

You say youre looking for an Island for a Naval Base. I just happen to control the entire Hawaiian Island Chain. As you know they are the best place to control a naval fleet as it is far from any mainland yet it is right in the middle of the Pacific that can strike anywhere. We may be able to sell you an island for a price, as long as you'd be able to match our price.

Xaniqall has reservations about further Zionist expansion. We'll keep a close eye on this situation.

You say youre looking for an Island for a Naval Base. I just happen to control the entire Hawaiian Island Chain. As you know they are the best place to control a naval fleet as it is far from any mainland yet it is right in the middle of the Pacific that can strike anywhere. We may be able to sell you an island for a price, as long as you'd be able to match our price.

We would like you to name a price as I am unsure of land values. I know Hawaii's position is important and thank you for answering our call.

Xaniqall has reservations about further Zionist expansion. We'll keep a close eye on this situation.
Xanigall, just try me. You are a tiny nation so don't mess with IDF, no one insults my Israel without a massive fleet strike so I recommend you butt out of my nation's business.

Well it completely depends on which Island you are going after. We are in complete control of the entire Island Chain, from the Big Island of Hawaii, way out past the island of Midway. More than 75 Islands in total. Please note that the purchase of one of these islands will not come cheap.

Xaniqall has reservations about further Zionist expansion. We'll keep a close eye on this situation.
Xanigall, just try me. You are a tiny nation so don't mess with IDF, no one insults my Israel without a massive fleet strike so I recommend you butt out of my nation's business.

If you dont leave him alone, you'll find 1000 martyrs on your doorstep!
Stop picking on smaller nations IDF, your going to upset too many of us and then BANG!

As I said, we will continue to train terrorists until you cease your aggressive, inflamatory foreign policy.

Xaniqall has reservations about further Zionist expansion. We'll keep a close eye on this situation.
Xanigall, just try me. You are a tiny nation so don't mess with IDF, no one insults my Israel without a massive fleet strike so I recommend you butt out of my nation's business.

If you dont leave him alone, you'll find 1000 martyrs on your doorstep!
Stop picking on smaller nations IDF, your going to upset too many of us and then BANG!

As I said, we will continue to train terrorists until you cease your aggressive, inflamatory foreign policy.

Xaniqall has reservations about further Zionist expansion. We'll keep a close eye on this situation.
Xanigall, just try me. You are a tiny nation so don't mess with IDF, no one insults my Israel without a massive fleet strike so I recommend you butt out of my nation's business.

If you dont leave him alone, you'll find 1000 martyrs on your doorstep!
Stop picking on smaller nations IDF, your going to upset too many of us and then BANG!

As I said, we will continue to train terrorists until you cease your aggressive, inflamatory foreign policy.

will we like to know if you going to put any ICBMs in any of these base.

Irondin is willing to sell a island but would like the deal to be kept private(IE with Telegrams)

OOC: Sorry for the delay. IDF, sure thing. There's a long list that you could operate from...and they're all open to my allies and friends anyways.

WA also has claims to Midway, Wake, and Guam...long standing and well-recognized claims (acknowledged by Menelmacar and California&Alaska (who each claim most US overseas territories for their own, save these)).

My current claims/bases/accesses (all claims):

Provinces, Transshipment Points, Foreign Bases, and Controlled Areas:

Notes on Access Rights:
WA is generally very open about opening its bases and ports to friendly nations and some groups, like the Ur Trade Pact, have enhanced rights to house forces there with approval. The Zion Pact and Delta Triumvirate have pretty much open access to all WA bases and territories (secret facilities open to only Delta Triumvirate with some top-level facilities opened on a special basis).

Areas Under WA Control (Provinces and Maj. Territories):
- Main Land Western Asia (Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Sinai Peninsula, Western Syria (to Turkey Province), and Suez Canal (with Sinai)).

Home to the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Grand Fleets of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 8th and 9th Devastator Squadron with attached Marine Corps forces. Also port for other Grand Fleets and Devastator Squadrons during major overhauls and repair operations. Home port for all of the IDF's forces and the main location for Western Asia's hundreds of millions of people (Turkey Province comes in a far second). The origin of Western Asia was in the state of Israel proper (now known simply as Israel or Israel Province) and centuries have allowed it to expand to the world power that it is today, with bases in every hemisphere and on almost every continent. The IDF's Air Corps and Army Corps are almost exclusively dedicated to protecting this territory and the neighboring Turkey province. Control of the Suez Canal ensures access for WA allies between the Indian Ocean and Mediterranean Sea.

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/is.html
Jordan (as a part of the WA domain)
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=625775#625775
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/jo.html

- Turkey (Major National Province (full citizen rights and complete governmental integration), "Province of Turkey" as a unified regional province.: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/tu.html
(See Garrison Euro Map)
Rights to limited airbases granted to Garrison, general port and airbase rights extended to Delta Triumvirate and other allied nations. Control and defense of the strategic economic passage between the Mediterranean and Black Seas is a major issue and the Dardanelles and Bosphorus are well guarded by local National Guard and Coast Guard facilities, with some assistance from IDF Army, Marine, Air, and Naval Corps. Home to the 4th and 5th Grand Fleets of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 7th Devastator Squadron with attached Marine Corps forces. Access rights: Liberated Asia and other friendly nations.

- SE Corner of Ellesmere Island (rest held by Spaam)
Mostly a Naval Way station in the North Atlantic. Also includes airfields but a very limited number of personnel (Spaam controls the majority of the territory as we granted him the portion that was ours with the exception of the military facilities). The extensive natural sites nearby make this territory a very popular tourist attraction and a prime site for naturalists to study arctic environments. Granted "held territory status." Home to the 7th Grand Fleet of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 3rd Devastator Squadron with attached Marine Corps forces.
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=623396#623396

- Malta: Islands and ports of Malta, the naval base and civilian facilities take up the major portion of Malta not filled by civilian residences and/or nature/archeological reserves. A major way station for WA patrol fleets and a base for the IDF's Air Corps Strategic Conventional Bomber Wings. Granted "National Province" status as "Province of Malta." Civilian population is largely independent of the military operations and enjoy similar privileges to the citizens of the Pacific Island Provinces.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40160&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mt.html
(See Garrison Euro Map)

- Guam, Midway, and Wake Islands (granted from Fik)…[claim used to be Half of Guam, split with Fik, limited rights to port facilities on Midway and Wake Islands, has since changed] NOTE: Matich has a naval station granted on Wake, California and Alaska and Menelmacar are both granted unlimited open port rights to land, refuel, and resupply at any of these bases. Islands and bases collectively granted "National Province" status as a unified province. Home to the 11th and 12th Grand Fleets of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 1st and 2nd Devastator Squadrons with attached Marine Corps forces.

These island chains bases for forward deployed Grand Fleets and Naval Strike Teams. Large runways and good storage facilities allow these bases to receive and maintain even the massive PelicanULTRA transport aircraft and transport ships up to the size of a "super tanker."

Use aerial and naval resupplies to establish stores of oil, ammunition, provisions, and spare parts. Each hosts an airwing or two, a marine garrison, and a small naval defensive force (mostly smaller patrol craft). Civilian populations are a mix of natives of the islands (given full civilian rights of Western Asia, with additional semiautonomous governing rights to allow for a concentrated focus on local issues) and the families of soldiers based permanently at the camp (provided with full health and medical benefits, as are all citizens of these islands...in housing purchased by the government for the families. Education for all citizens on these territories is similarly provided at a high quality and no additional costs).
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40194&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/gq.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/mq.html
http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/wq.html
NOTE: These islands have signed free trade agreements (limited tariffs) with a NAFTA group for trading in the northern parts of the Western Hemisphere.

- St. Helena and the Canary, Madeira, and Azores island groups
Currently occupied by WA forces. Semi-permanent bases exist on the St. Helena chain while the status of the other sites is under consideration. The other areas were occupied recently in support of a local conflict.


Foreign Bases (Grants): (not necessarily whole territories)
- Australian Bases (from Mega Tau, in exchange for similar rights in WA…part of alliance deal). Home to the 6th Grand Fleet of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 4th Devastator Squadron with attached Marine Corps forces.

- Base in backcountry Sniper Country territory (South Africa), constructed port and airstrip facilities allow for medium/large shipments but shipping transport capabilities are limited due to the small size of the port facilities. Home to the 8th Grand Fleet of the IDF's Naval Corps and the 5th Devastator Squadron with attached Marine Corps forces.

- Base on Madagascar, at Antsiranana. WA-constructed port and airstrip facilities allow for medium/large shipments and have sections specifically built for use by Madagascar’s civilian population. The base was built in support of Beth Gellert operations in support of the Madagascar government in Antananarivo and maintains facilities for the training and deployment of native Police and Military forces. WA forces regularly assist in defensive patrols of the island nation and have donated major equipment to the Republic of Madagascar and are employed in the training of the People’s Armed Forces, Gendarmerie, and Presidential Security Regiment. Home to the 3rd Grand Fleet of the IDF’s Naval Corps.

- Cienfuegos, Cuba. WA-improved port and airstrip facilities in this major city are employed as a base for ongoing stability and peace-keeping operations. WA-provided services are employed in improving national infrastructure and support systems. Defensive coordination efforts and training programs are in effect. An extended-term lease agreement has been signed for the port and air traffic rights.

- Liberated Asia: New Nippon (In exchange for landing and port rights with Liberated Asia as well as rights to free passage through the Dardanelles without issue):
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=623914#623914

- Camp Masada (too damn close to Arda). About 1100mi east from Melkor Unchained. A significant base with good facilities and natural/enhanced ports. During Melkor War served as a friendly base for Coalition forces. Used as a way station for naval patrols, only minor defensive naval forces are permanently stationed here.

- NotableFriendly Port Locations:
- _Taiwan

Locations of Granted Port and Supply Loading Rights
Hudson River/NY area, open access in NY&NJ territory.
Various Menelmacar territories
Various California & Alaska territories
Delta Triumvirate ports and territories
Several Allied ports and territories

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Territories Claimed for own:
Israel
Jordan
Lebanon
Syria (major portion)
Sinai Peninsula (parts of Egypt)
Turkey (and Turkish Cyprus)
Malta
Guam Is.
Wake Is.
Midway Is.
Ellesmere Is. (parts, of Canada)
St. Helena Is.
Azores Is. (not Annexed)
Madeiras Is. (not Annexed)
Canary Is. (not Annexed)

There are terms and conditions associated with these bases and territories and not all listed areas are available for use. Specific terms of use will be supplied at the time of request.

Well it completely depends on which Island you are going after. We are in complete control of the entire Island Chain, from the Big Island of Hawaii, way out past the island of Midway. More than 75 Islands in total. Please note that the purchase of one of these islands will not come cheap.

I'll take one near Midway, (good location in Central Pacific) I'm willing to pay and assure everyone no ICBMs will be based there, but there is the possibility of Ohio SSBNs with nukes coming there to pick up food or be repaired, but that's all and only a few times a year if ever.

WA, are the Canadian Islands on Atlantic or Pacific side, if Atlantic I'll take base rights, I'll take Guam rights, thank you everyone.

I'm willing to sell you naval rights to the FWS's nominally autonomous black region known as the "Coastal Province".

It has approximately 1,200 miles of coastline. Very good strategically located ports. There are about 4 ports total that would be suitable for your military needs.


Depending on your nation's political values you may be allowed to store ICBMS on your ships in the ports.


I have reviewed your nation's political values and deemed you okay for parking ICBMS in Coastal Province. If you accept the deal that is... We need to agree on how the FWS will be compensated.

Well it completely depends on which Island you are going after. We are in complete control of the entire Island Chain, from the Big Island of Hawaii, way out past the island of Midway. More than 75 Islands in total. Please note that the purchase of one of these islands will not come cheap.

I'll take one near Midway, (good location in Central Pacific) I'm willing to pay and assure everyone no ICBMs will be based there, but there is the possibility of Ohio SSBNs with nukes coming there to pick up food or be repaired, but that's all and only a few times a year if ever.

WA, are the Canadian Islands on Atlantic or Pacific side, if Atlantic I'll take base rights, I'll take Guam rights, thank you everyone.

OOC: Far north atlantic, well within the arctic circle. You can harbor as much as a CVBG's worth of vessels there.

You can stop over in Guam and take on fuel and ammunition at available costs, but the base is already filled to capacity with troops and ships. Ship repair facilities will be available on request.

At both places you'll have to cover your impact costs.

Well it completely depends on which Island you are going after. We are in complete control of the entire Island Chain, from the Big Island of Hawaii, way out past the island of Midway. More than 75 Islands in total. Please note that the purchase of one of these islands will not come cheap.

I'll take one near Midway, (good location in Central Pacific) I'm willing to pay and assure everyone no ICBMs will be based there, but there is the possibility of Ohio SSBNs with nukes coming there to pick up food or be repaired, but that's all and only a few times a year if ever.

WA, are the Canadian Islands on Atlantic or Pacific side, if Atlantic I'll take base rights, I'll take Guam rights, thank you everyone.

OOC: Far north atlantic, well within the arctic circle. You can harbor as much as a CVBG's worth of vessels there.

You can stop over in Guam and take on fuel and ammunition at available costs, but the base is already filled to capacity with troops and ships. Ship repair facilities will be available on request.

At both places you'll have to cover your impact costs.
I will take the islands in Canada for a base and am flattered for you letting me use the Guam base. I will only need it for fuel, ammo, and emergency repairs. (possible shore leaves for drunk sailors too)

OOC: The Pacific and Atlantic Island territories tend to be organized as virtual states of Western Asia...and they have a great deal of autonomy over local affairs. The Israeli-style 'green' party has many seats there (if you know what that is...) and they are very good to drunken sailors (lots of nonlethal weapon deployments among police and a very liberal public drunkeness policy in the designated leave aras). Your officials will be sent a specific list of local protocols for your men to be made aware of before shore leaves, but otherwise you should be just fine.

Also, there are airstrip facilities for even the largest of planes (incl. WA's Pelican ULTRA WIG craft) so you can ship in resupply materials and such at will.