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Nice 8)

Seems very good for a first time.

Your speed seems a little unrealalistic for the three nuclear plants, how much power does each give off?

Also, mention In Hull aircraft, and On Deck aircraft, 70 does tell that there is probaly 70 max (which is a little average) but break it down, ex.
40 hull
30 deck

also, the displacment is surprisingly close to what I expected (it takes me a while to find out about how much one of my patrol boats displace)

Also, I belive the name, Violator has already been taken, I could go looking in the later posts to see by who, but I am pretty sure it has already been called.

over all A Ratting :P

--Truitt

Are there any names that havent been taken yet? I am trying to start designing my own ships, and would like to know.

Ever though of using culture names?
"No more Mr Nice Guy" class battleship is what I want to see.

Yeah, good first attempt. Wait til you see the shambles of what I'll release.

Don't use Greek/Roman names. They're mine!
Also, I've reserved the name "Tartaros" don't steal that, or I'll personally hunt you down, and prod you with a hand sharpened stick. in the ribs.
Double runways = double width I think thats the only problem.

only three sea sparrow launchers?
that would leave one side unarmed, you could place catwalks under the deck (which are there anyway in msot cases) only put another sea sparrow laucnher on, or a A-A machine gun. (but, in most cases it will be escorted so you could leave it with three)
and eieght aircraft elevators ? isnt that a bit much ? doesnt the nimitz only have one or two ?
about the engines, i looked at a troop ship and it had a 15(.5 i think) knots wtih disel engines, then i looked at some subs with nuclear propulsion and they were going 25 and 22 knots dived, and then i looked at the nimitz, the nimitz has 2 nuclear engines(and four emergency disels) and it goes 30 knots, i think the speed is fine, if not slowed form what it could be. (each engine produced approxamently 15 knots, a third would give it 45 knots)

Instead of the CIWS, I'd put 20mm iron storm systems.

the flight deck on the nimitz is approx. 333 feet long, by 77 feet wide, doubling it would make a gigantic ship....

dump the CIWS for Rolling Air-frame Missiles (RAM)

Yeah, f--- the double runway idea :P


And what's the Iron Storm system? Little info please? lol

Basically, a gun system that uses electricity instead of convetional powder to ignite the bullets. This means that the ROF can achieve 1 million rpm, although you can program it for anything.

i try and stick with simple systems the evreyday person mgiht udnerstand...

The iron storm is a large metal box, and you slide barrels in, according to what you want fired. If you want an RPG fired, slide in the RPG barrel. Several barrels can fit in at a time though, meaning that you can have several (about 100 or so?) barrels, firing 7.62 (or whatever the callibre is) rounds at the enemy. Since the bullet is flung out by a magnet, you can have several bullets inside one barrel. You then give it a target, and it will empty the barrels in the order you give it. Very nice design.

here is stuff on the RAM
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/ram.htm

It is so good that the US replaced the CIWS on the Nimitz with these. THe Ronald Reagan doesn't even have CIWS because this is better

Perhaps I didn't sell it well enough. It can fire about 30 mortar rounds in 1 volley, all at an infantry, armour group. Since they don't have the advantage of them falling not en masse, they can't get out of the way. It carpets the area. 1 million rounds per minute!
The minigun manages 6000 I believe. As for the other one.
You got me. No idea.

only three sea sparrow launchers?
that would leave one side unarmed, you could place catwalks under the deck (which are there anyway in msot cases) only put another sea sparrow laucnher on, or a A-A machine gun. (but, in most cases it will be escorted so you could leave it with three)
and eieght aircraft elevators ? isnt that a bit much ? doesnt the nimitz only have one or two ?
about the engines, i looked at a troop ship and it had a 15(.5 i think) knots wtih disel engines, then i looked at some subs with nuclear propulsion and they were going 25 and 22 knots dived, and then i looked at the nimitz, the nimitz has 2 nuclear engines(and four emergency disels) and it goes 30 knots, i think the speed is fine, if not slowed form what it could be. (each engine produced approxamently 15 knots, a third would give it 45 knots)

that theory is flawed, gas turbined powered ships like the Arleigh Burke go 32-33 knots.

Besides, an extra reactor would add only 5 knots at most due to drag resistance

(Is the Iron storm RL?)

Reload time? Size and weight?

(Anyway, this is a carrier, so I'm really not sure how it's going need to launch mortars)

(Is the Iron storm RL?)

Reload time? Size and weight?

(Anyway, this is a carrier, so I'm really not sure how it's going need to launch mortars)

Yes, the US Army is developing it.

It can be as big as you want it to be, all it needs is a computer system and an electrical charge as big as needed to ignite the powder. But it'd be amount the big of a big screen TV with a bunch of tubes, each stacked with 20mm ammo. The fire control would set the electrical impulses to fire off the ammo at 50,000 rounds a minute (or whatever you want) when the fire control tracks an incoming missile. It saturates the area with lead, chewing everything up. The tubes can be quickly reloaded by slamming them full of ammo.

(Is the Iron storm RL?)

Reload time? Size and weight?

(Anyway, this is a carrier, so I'm really not sure how it's going need to launch mortars)
I think he means metalstorm, which is quite real. However, he fails to properly state what it is.

Metalstorm uses electrical charges to fire specially packed barrels. Each barrel is filled with rounds that are then fired off in extremely rapid succession. It achieves a higher rate of fire due to the fact that the rounds are all already in the barrel, eliminating most of the firing cycle found in normal weapons. However, 1 million rounds per minute is NOT the actual rate of fire. That rate is acheived using multiple barrels that are considered part of the same system. The rate is also only only the cyclic rate, and can only be maintained for a brief fraction of a second (barrels empty quickly after all). Due to the time it takes to reload after each burst, it actually only fires no more than a few thousand rounds in one minute, divided into tiny bursts.
The problem with metalstorm, and what makes it rather poor for a CIWS system, is the fact that the barrels can only be used once. Once the contents are fired off, the used barrel must be replaced with a new one, and must be discarded (it can't be reloaded in the field). This leaves little margin for error or capability for engaging multiple targets. Standard gun and missile CIWS systems, on the other hand have greater capacity to engage multiple targets. The guns don't have the cyclic rate of fire, but they can maintain it for vastly longer periods of time, and several will maintain a higher sustained rate.

Size and weight is variable, based on the number and size of the barrels. Reload time depends on the barrels, but can be quite significant when there are enough of them.

Oops, yeah, I was kinda hazy on the actual details of metal storm (I thought that was its name) I thought that reload may take longer, then somehow believed that whoever was making it would give me the real statistics, other than their ideal/theoretical statistics. Live and learn.

If it's bigger then it should have more aircraft, not less.
Also, if you're making a lot wider, I suggest going for a catamaran or trimaran hull design. They're far more stable.
Telegram me if you want to know more about my Fury class. I'm still designing it and I don't want to give anyone my ideas. But suffice to say it's one scarily powerful fucker of a ship.

Thread about the Fury class here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3144748#3144748)