A biplane airliner?
The Zoogie People
08-05-2004, 17:58
http://www.battlenet.co.uk/projectred/bp_airliner.gif
I was wondering if an aircraft such as this has any potential useage or market. If so, I may develop it, if not...well.
If hotlinking isn't permitted, the link is : http://www.battlenet.co.uk/projectred/bp_airliner.gif
Phoenixius
08-05-2004, 18:38
Well, I myself have a cargo plane with a bi-wing, so I shouldn't think it was a problem - they used bi-wings before the current trend of mono-wings.
Phoenixius
08-05-2004, 18:45
Damn forums are too slow...
Phoenixius
08-05-2004, 18:47
Damn forums are too slow...
Looks great.
How about an aeroplane with tandem wings and two fuselages?
The Zoogie People
08-05-2004, 23:22
I've got that one covered in a CAS aircraft:
http://www.aeronautics.ru/.../news/news002/t1202_small.jpg
My only question is, why would one create an airliner with two wings? What are some positive effects? What are some negative ones?
Jordaxia
08-05-2004, 23:36
Positive effects, increased lift. Negative effects, increased drag. I'm sure there are many more positive and negative, but I believe that those are the main ones.
imported_ViZion
08-05-2004, 23:48
I would suggest putting money elsewhere in developing a new plane. There are much more effecient designs then that... aerodynamics being a big part of it, along with weight and speed.
imported_ViZion
08-05-2004, 23:52
Alright, you give me an idea... An airline company that does regional scenic flights on older-styled (but new technology) bi-planes... and a company that makes old-style, new technology bi-planes.
Just dont build something like that thing above you have... It wont be worth it...
Announcement:
ViZion World Corp is looking into bringing back the old regional bi-planes, mixed with new technology. VWC is willing to work with The Zoogie People on this project.
ViZionair-Regional is the first airline in ViZion to offer these services, once the new planes are built and proven.
The Zoogie People
09-05-2004, 01:35
Okay. The only reason I thought about it was that it was a different, two full story airliner...I didn't want the A380 or 747 picture. But oh well..
Ampar Corporation is willing to work with ViZion in this endeavor...what do you mean by old regional bi-planes? Does it have anything to do with NS, or is it WWI-style aircraft?
imported_ViZion
09-05-2004, 02:56
Okay. The only reason I thought about it was that it was a different, two full story airliner...I didn't want the A380 or 747 picture. But oh well..
Ampar Corporation is willing to work with ViZion in this endeavor...what do you mean by old regional bi-planes? Does it have anything to do with NS, or is it WWI-style aircraft?
By old regional bi-planes, we are talking WWI/early 20th century style bi-planes (they did have small commercial bi-planes back then...)
imported_ViZion
09-05-2004, 02:57
OOC: btw, did you draw and scan that, or what?
The Zoogie People
09-05-2004, 03:00
It was a hand drawn picture scanned and rendered through Adobe Photoshope. And I didn't draw it...what kind of artist do you take me for? ;)
Hamanistan
09-05-2004, 03:12
Perhaps you could use level of wings for extra feul storage? Other than that I'm not too sure of what you could use it for.
The main problem would be a large increase in drag.
Jordaxia
09-05-2004, 03:14
But it would take off easier. It's really just a trade off in max speed for a smaller runway, and it could run better if an engine failed, for example. They are safer, but slower.
imported_ViZion
09-05-2004, 04:59
bump
Roycelandia
09-05-2004, 06:06
Roycelandia has a Military Biplane still in service with the IRAF- the IAe Tigershark Ground Attack/Training Biplane.
Totally modern materials and equipment, early WWII Design. Cheap, too!
OOC: The planes you are referring to are the:
DeHavilland Domine
DeHavilland Rapide
De Havilland Gypy Moth
And Chiang Kai-Shek had a Biplane Transport- it looked like a DC-3 biplane, but I forget the name...
Germanische Zustande
09-05-2004, 06:41
Okay, now, when air passes under the top wing, and over the bottom wing, it creates a region of "chaotic" air particles. They air will swirl around in the center if the wings are too close together. In this case, the plane will crash, as there will not be enough lift to pull an aircraft that size through the air. My computer simulations say your plane needs some revamping. It is a good idea, though. But if it had a use, there would be such planes in use today.
When planes travelled at 10 MPH, the bi-wings wouldn't create enough "chaos" to bring the plane down. However, as planes began to fly faster, the bi-wing design became obselete and, well, dangerous.
Phoenixius
09-05-2004, 11:45
Maybe if the upper wing was swept forward, like my PX-303 Yarui cargo plane it would eliminate the chaos area.
http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/images/nsa3.jpg