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Here are my Armed Forces!!

Navy Forces

246x Seawolf Class Sub
240x Intrepid Class Battle Ship
240x Type 23 Duke Class Frigate
240xSentinel Class Destroyer
128x Shrike Class transport
121x Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier
120x Scavenger Class Minesweeper
120x G/S H-25 anti-tank/anti-ship Hovercraft
14x Executor Class Combat Logistics Ships
14x Grevant Class Missile Frigate
13x Adari Class Air Defense Destroyer
12x Arleigh-Burke Class AEGIS Destroyer
9x Portos Class Catamarans
5x Helina Class Battle Cruiser
4x Royale Class Frigates
4x Triara Class Light Cruisers
2x Los Angeles Class Submarines
2x Roydia Class Battleships
2x Ticonderoga Class Missile Cruiser
1x Vengence Class Aircraft Carrier

Air Forces

9150x Harrier HJ8
5840x Chinook HC2
240x E-2C
200x Euro fighter Typhoon
200x Apache
200x Cobra
150x Tornado GR4
100x Globemaster
100x B-2
100x F-117
50x VC10
50x Sentry
50x IAI Scout

Ground Forces

300x Marksman SPAAGs
200x Challenger 2
200x Warrior APC
100x M1 Abrams Main Battle Tank
100x Vickers AS90
100x Vought MLRS
100x Scorpion Recce
100x Spartan Milan anti-tank
50x Chieftain ARRV
50x Chieftain AVLB No. 12
50x Combat Engineer Tractor
50x FV432 Mortar Carrier
20x Sultan Command

...and there you have it, my friends... That's all I have until my nation expands into the great void of space!! As a matter of fact, I'm proud to announce that my nation is close to completion of a project intending to do exactly that, and I would appreciate any tips you could give me on how you build your ships... Thank you for you time!! I now turn the floor over to anyone wishing to share the size of their Armed Forces!!

Bump for Responses.... Anyone??

No way you could afford that much :) Your navy alone would take two-three times over your national budget.

A list of some of my airforce, to give you an idea of numbers... Need to finish this list sometime, including navy and army...

Name of | Number of | Price Of | Total Price |Upkeep Price(t)|
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RAA-M | 8,000 |$37 million| $296 billion | $29.6 billion |
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P-3 | 4,000 |$44 million| $176 billion | $17.6 billion |
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B-13 | 4,000 |$83 million| $332 billion | $33.2 billion |
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I-4 | 4,000 |$77 million| $308 billion | $30.8 billion |
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V-121 | 6,000 |$69 million| $414 billion | $41.4 billion |
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Heaven | 8,000 |$31 million| $248 billion | $51.2 billion |
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No way you could afford that much :) Your navy alone would take two-three times over your national budget.
Hey, i have many many connections... actually, only one storefront, but hell, im lucky i found it... TG me for the addy to it... unless youve already guessed it...

You cant maintain 121 nimitz. Pretty much no one can.

You wouldn't be able to afford the upkeep costs on 121 nimitz alone, that would be over 50-70 billion dollars.

Thats the most ridiculously huge armed forces I've ever seen. I'm a huge, military dictatorship, and my air force would simply not match up to that (I have perhaps 4,500 fighters, and even thats a hell of a lot).

Likewise, I must agree with my compatriots. Maintaining a military that large would require you to sell every one of your citizens into indentured slavery...and even then, you'd blow all that money on maintainence costs. :?

Terra has 2 billion people, but we could never maintain a fleet like that, AND we're a naval-based nation. It'd be better to focus your navy in one area, instead of trying to spread out everywhere with carbon-copy designs. Terra, for instance, builds extremely advanced submarines...that would eat a battlegroup alive. :lol:

Do you realize you have more aircraft carriers than tanks?

err... No, he has 300 tanks and 121 carriers. At any rate, 121 Nimitz is ridicules. It should be more like 4, maybe 5.

You know Wickit Klownz, I don't remember selling you 128 Shrikes. They are copyrighted and my own design, so we must insist that you take them off or risk international copyright infringement action. (By the way, they are helicopter assault ships, not transports)

uhm, well, i didnt make them myself.... i got em from the Battle Group Storefront....take ip up with him, they might not be the same ship... i bought eight from you, 120 from him, and since the names were similar, i just combined them into one category... Anyways... none of this even includes the Weapons and vehicles my own nation has produced... i figured i would just devote the defense part of my GDP towards my upkeeping of vehicles...which is possible because very few of these are in service as of now...i have to wait until i get more money before i put them into active service...

PS: about the costs of upkeeping for the nimitzs, uhm i hope you meant 50-70 trillion... cuz my budget is around 2 trillion, not 2 billion....

uhm, well, i didnt make them myself.... i got em from the Battle Group Storefront....take it up with him, they might not be the same ship... i bought eight from you, 120 from him, and since the names were similar, i just combined them into one category... Anyways... none of this even includes the Weapons and Vehicles my own nation has produced... i figured i would just devote the defense part of my GDP towards my upkeeping of vehicles...which is possible because very few of these are in service as of now...i have to wait until i get more money before i put them into active service...

PS: about the costs of upkeeping for the nimitzs, uhm i hope you meant 50-70 trillion... cuz my budget is around 2 trillion, not 2 billion....

Em that 2trillion is your entire governmental budget, you could get away with maybe spending 15-20% of that on defence. So youa re spending more than 10% of your budget just on the upkeep of one class of ship never mind paying the sailors, maintaining the airwing and paying the pilots and techs required to make the carriers useful.

you probably are in national debt so deep you would never earn enough money to pay it back

Ok, I am bored so I'll do some calculations.

Ok, 2% of your population is 2,740,000 in your armed services total.

You pay your armed services a salary of $30,000 (Following the GDP per Capita for your economic level), to a total of $82,200,000,000.

So, now we have almost 1/3 of your entire military budget paying your men.

18,450,000,000 in upkeep for your Seawolf Class
48,000,000,000 in upkeep for your Inrepid Class Battleships (assuming they aren't much better than Iowas.)
9,600,000,000 in upkeep for your Type 23 Duke Class Frigates
12,000,000,000 in upkeep for your Sentinal Class Destroyer
1,280,000,000 in upkeeo for your Shrike Class Transport
24,200,000,000 in upkeep for your Nimitz's(Not including aircraft)
10,285,000,000 in upkeep for the aircraft on your Nimitz's.
600,000,000 in upkeep for your Scavenger Class Minesweeper

209,615,000,000 so far. I think I will stop here, no point continueing on with the Navy.

Right there we are already over your military budget. (Military Budget: $207,349,500,000 at 10%)

OOC:
Ok, I'm going to tell you all about my military and allow everyone analyze my strengths and weaknesses. I will also tell you about all secret projects. Can I get my car now? :roll:

uhm.....no.....after you share it with us...

....and Doujin, who ever said i use 10% on defense? many of our people dont live in our nation, because we like to travel to other countries to learn their way, although we dont like foreigners in our nation... matter of fact, just about the only people that still live in our nation, are the armed forces, plus or minus 50 million workers...so do you see why i can get away with so much spending on defense?? The amount i use for defense is quite alot...and since i dont have as many people to support as other nations, i can afford it....

And not to mention, since being in the military is compulsory in my nation, not only in war, but in peace also, my troops are numbered around 12.2 million all the time...but the best thing about them? since most of them are in the reserves, and have a job working at a business, they tell us to keep their money because they are so patriotic (or we make them, one of the two)...

The US hovers at about .5 percent of the population in the armed forces. At max, 5% for a compulsory military state.

Spend as much as you want - but you are trying to claim to have a Navy, and Air Force hundreds of times in power than the United States, and the US has an almost equivalant economy and almost a hundred and 50 million if not more people than your nation does. Continue to claim that and people will ignore you, including me.

Wickit, you can do that if you want to ignore your all-consuming economy and turn it into basketcase, and accept the budgets then. You're nations idea doesnt work economically with its practicality.

Iv only jsu seen this post and man did it make me laugh. boy do you have any idear how much money and how many men you would meed to run all that. Im sorry but in the time you have been here have you not heard bout god modlein. size them down keep it real heres my armed forces
15 Swiftsure-class submarines
20Typhoon class subs
3 invincible class carriers with full complement of fjca’s and Merlin helicopters
3 cvf carriers with 50 fjca’s each and 7 Merlin’s
30 23s multi role
22Ticonderoga CG 47 – class Guided Missile Cruisers
20 22s surface combat lynx 1
25 42s anti aircraft
20 45s anti aircraft
10 assault ships foresight and Sussex Huntington Albion (8 soc craft)
10 heavy transport ships 50 tanks and 800 men or 1200 at a push or 100 tanks
50, 00 assault personnel 10000 in reserve
100,000 commandos
900,000 troopers- m16 m203. 9mm side arm, mk 2 frag grenades
400 LVTP7 Landing Vehicle, Tracked
1000 M3A3 Bradley Fighting Vehicle
200 M 270 MLRS Self-Propelled Loader/Launcher (SPLL)
1200 Chieften 3
1000 Merava mk 3(longbow)
1200 Leopard 2
900 Pershing td

Thats not even 1% of my population so you cant argue with that

Puny weakling with your "powerful" armed forces. I hold the real power. My nation has 50,000,000,000 pointy teeth, Monty-Python style killer fuzzy bunnies! They have been brainwashed and trained to do my bidding. They reproduce at an astounding rate, so recouping my losses is no problem at all. They can chew through steel like it was a carrot cake! There is no way that anyone could produce enough Holy Handgrenades of Antioch to counter such a threat! I will release them from my secret holding pens and have them consume you all!

Just kidding :D (at least about the "consuming you all" part) I figured I would try to add a little humor to this thread after all of the bickering and such. I hope you enjoyed it. And really, don't get on my bad side because the bunnies will not appreciate it :twisted: