Federal Dynamics-Upgrades for all aircraft types
United Elias
04-05-2004, 18:49
The Federal Dynamics Consortium (FDC) was formed rcently following an announcement from the Elias military that it was going to upgrade a wide range of systems rather than replace them. FDC is a joint venture agreement between Elias Aerospace, Elias Precision Engineering and various defence related electronics companies and the consortium is designed to provide comprehensive customised upgrades for any aircraft in service whether it be civil or military.
All Upgrades are directly designed for each customer and any nation who wishes to upgrade existing aircraft should please post here and await a reply after we have evaluated each case and determined the improvements we should make and issue a quote. Customers can specifiy what they require or do not require but we will always source materials and systems from United Elias companies unless there is specific case not to.
Prices will vary depending on the size of the order and the complexity of the changes involved. If at any time we believe that the cost of upgrading a type is either more or close to that of purchasing a new platform we wil recommend modern Elias products to suit your needs.
Once an upgrade has beendeveloped for a particular customer it can be offered as a standard package to other nations:
Projects Completed to Date
Project: FDC-1E
Customer: Al-Sabir, Navy
Original Aircraft: F/A-18F
Final Designation: F/A-18UE-AS
Number Upgraded: 96
Total Project Cost: $1,523,670,000
Price Per Aircraft: $15,510,000
Developed in response to the Al-Sabrian Navy's request to upgrade its fleet of F/A-18F Super Hornets, this extensive upgrade increases performances in nearlky every way and crucially adds greater targeting and and electronic warfare capability.
Replacement of touch-sensitive control display with VTAS system:
I’ve heard that the Super Hornet’s touch screen controls are proving to be unreliable and difficult to use in high G maneuvers so we propose to fit a voice-throttle-and-stick system (VTAS) similar to EA-135. The stick and throttle tops house 28 fingertip controls for sensor and weapon control, defence aids management, and in-flight handling. The direct voice input allows the pilot to carry out mode selection and data entry procedures using voice command.
-Estimated Price: $220,000 per aircraft
Installation of Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared:
EAS-FLIR/490 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. The navigation laser spot tracker and targeting FLIR functions on today's F/A-18 aircraft are provided by three separate pods. In the FLIR/490 the system is integrated into one aerodynamic pod fitted below the port intake that does not interfere with weapon hardpoints.
-Estimated Price: $950,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1158 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is based on the EA-135’s and is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar/ millimetric/ laser illumination detection and threat warning, supersonically capable towed decoy systems, laser warning receivers, 50 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher and active IR/ laser missile dazzler system.
-Estimated Price: $1,510,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Powerplants:
Replacing F414-GE-400 turbofans producing 22,000lb of thrust when afterburning with new EPE-37M2 Turbofans each producing 23,140lb of thrust when afterburning. New turbofans incorporate three-stage fan, shroud less titanium swept-chord fan blades and is powered by a single-stage low-pressure turbine. The engine's core has an aerodynamically efficient six-stage compressor driven by a single-stage high-pressure turbine featuring the next generation of single-crystal super alloy blades with improved cooling management. The robust, but compact, high-pressure compressor features integrally bladed rotor disks for improved durability and three-dimensionally designed airfoils. The new Powerplants improve engine efficiency by about 12-15% as well as increasing max speed to Mach 1.85.
-Estimated Price: $7,450,000 per aircraft plus 18,000,000 development cost
Installation of Electronic Warfare Suite:
EAS-TJS/21 Tactical Jamming system has been designed to give maximum EW capability to the aircraft while not making any changes that would reduce capability in other roles. The system consists of: a set of receiver arrays that are integrated into a pair of pods which attach to the wingtip AAM hardpoints, and between two and four AN/ALQ-99 Jamming Pods that are attached to weapons hardpoints. The AN/ALQ-99 intercepts and automatically processes radar signals and power manages the system's transmitters to effectively jam large numbers of diverse radar threats with very high effective radiated power. To control the receivers and the jammers, the aircraft’s rear cockpit will be upgraded with a separate Electronic Warfare display. The system can be attached or detached in the same amount of time as weapons loading to give huge amount of flexibility and interchange between missions.
-Estimated Price: $2,250,000 per aircraft (including four jamming pods)
RCS Reduction:
To reduce the Radar Cross Section of the aircraft, precise robotic processes will apply a new RAM coating to nearly 75 percent of the airframe and significantly reduce the Radar cross section. Unlike previous coatings it is much more durable and will not suffer from salt corrosion which is vital for naval aircraft.
-Estimated Price: $1,100,000 per aircraft
Conformal Fuel Tanks:
The aircraft will be trialed with specifically designed conformal fuel tanks, which could extend the range in excess of 20% with little affect to the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft and no reduction in weapons payload.
-Estimated Price: $420,000 per aircraft plus 1,200,000 development costs
Radar:
ERSS-228B radar is an elliptical, active electronically scanned antenna array of 2000 transmitter/receive modules which provides agility, low radar cross section and wide bandwidth. The radar is able to sweep 120 degrees of airspace instantaneously. In comparison to the F-15 Strike Eagle's APG-70 radar takes 14 seconds to scan that amount of airspace.
The system exhibits a very low radar cross section, supporting the and offers significant advantages over the current AN/APG-73 radar. Among its most attractive benefits is the integration of agile beam steering. This feature allows the radar to carry out multiple functions, such as searching, tracking, and engaging targets simultaneously. Agile beam steering also enables the radar to concurrently search multiple portions of airspace, while allowing continued tracking of priority targets.
The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems therefre the ERSS-228B radar is capable of performing an active radar search on RWR/ESM equipped fighter aircraft without the target knowing he is being illuminated.
The radar system allows aircrews to detect ground targets from longer ranges using the Synthetic Aperture Mode. For example, the crew can pick out bridges and airfields on the radar display from more than 80 miles away, while at closer ranges targets as small as vehicles can be easily detected. The SAR mode can also locate aircraft flying close to the ground while the F/A-18 is flying well above them (20,000 - 30,000 feet above them for example).
Radar Specifications:
Targets: 25 air targets
Air surveillance: 200nm
Surface scan vs. large targets: 95nm
Surface scan vs. small targets: 25nm
Rear scan: 50nm
Project: FDC-3E
Customer: United Korean Nations, Air Force
Original Aircraft: Tu-22M
Final Designation:Tu-22UKN
Number Upgraded (sold as well): 25
Total Project Cost (including purchase of Airframes): $1,178,125,000
Price Per Aircraft (purchase): $32,000,000
Total Price Per Aircraft (upgrade): $15,125,000
Total Price Per Aircraft (total): $47,125
Cockpit Upgrade
The Current Tu-22M cockpit display units are not capable of supporting complex mission planning or advanced software uses that are needed for modern strike sorties. This program increases survivability by providing critical situational awareness displays, needed for conventional and nuclear operations, keeping pace with current and future guided munitions integration, and improving tactical employment. Enhancements/upgrades/acquisitions include six new ‘glass’ cockpit displays to support the electronic flight instrumentation system (EFIS), which displays flight, engine and sensor data and avionics systems as well as weapons status. The pilot can choose to activate the appropriate selection of flight and mission equipment for take-off mode, cruise mode go-to-war mode and landing mode by using a simple four-way switch. Other new equipment includes beyond line of sight UHF SATCOM data links, vertical situation display replacement, gyro stabilization system upgrade, on-board diagnostics hardware upgrade, electro-multiplexing system upgrade, automatic test system upgrades and the installation of a GPS navigation system linked to the digital mission map display.
-Estimated Price: $6,650,000 per aircraft
Radar:
The ERSS-386A Offensive Radar System is a multi-mode radar with an electronically scanned phased array antenna, which provides high-resolution terrain mapping, velocity data, beacon modes, terrain avoidance, terrain following, position data, weather detection, rendezvous and calibration modes.
-Estimated Price: $2,390,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared:
EAS-FLIR/491 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. Once a traget has been identified using the radar's SAR mode, the FLIR system can designate the target and laser guided weapons can be released. The FLIR system is housed in a new sensor turret below the left intake.
-Estimated Price: $985,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1179 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is based on the EA-220s and is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar/ millimetric/ laser illumination detection and threat warning, supersonically capable towed decoy systems, laser warning receivers, 50 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher and active IR/ laser missile dazzler system.
-Estimated Price: $2,210,000 per aircraft
Life Extension:
As well as a complete removal and overhaul of the engines, APU and hydraulic control systems the upgrade also replaces leading edge wing structures and horizontal stabilisers and services the wing spars to increase service life by an additional 20,000 to 30,000 hours.
-Estimated Price: $2,890,000 per aircraft
United Elias
05-05-2004, 20:04
Al-Sabir
08-05-2004, 19:59
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Al-Sabir
09-05-2004, 11:58
We need a major upgrade for one of our aircraft. 96 F/A 18F Hornets for the Al-Sabir Navy need to be upgraded. This is a far more cost-effective solution than completely replacing this bird. We require at least a larger range (a totally new engine maybe), a smaller RCS and a better radar (synthetic aperture mode would be nice). Could you please inform us about other improvements possible?
United Elias
09-05-2004, 17:56
We need a major upgrade for one of our aircraft. 96 F/A 18F Hornets for the Al-Sabir Navy need to be upgraded. This is a far more cost-effective solution than completely replacing this bird. We require at least a larger range (a totally new engine maybe), a smaller RCS and a better radar (synthetic aperture mode would be nice). Could you please inform us about other improvements possible?
F/A-18F is a pretty new aircraft but give me some time and I'll find a few things we could do to improve it. A while ago we were looking for a carrier based fighter and we made two prototypes of the F/A-18UE which had indigenous avionics, engines and also an EW capability that could form the basis of an upgrade (it lost out to the Su-30MKN-UE mostly on the basis of range and weapons load).
Right now, I need to work on stats for the Unity Carrier.
Al-Sabir
09-05-2004, 18:40
Great, take all the time you need. I know the Super Hornet is a new plane, but I also got the EA-135C, which is even better. An upgraded Super Hornet would be nice to complement the EA-220B in ground attack roles.
This reminded me about the fact that I also have 72 MiG-21s. Could those be upgraded as well? Or are those too old?
United Elias
09-05-2004, 19:07
Great, take all the time you need. I know the Super Hornet is a new plane, but I also got the EA-135C, which is even better. An upgraded Super Hornet would be nice to complement the EA-220B in ground attack roles.
This reminded me about the fact that I also have 72 MiG-21s. Could those be upgraded as well? Or are those too old?
If your doing that I assume I assume you woul dwant to give them an electronic warfare capability as well, so they can provide standoff jamming?
Mig-21s are worth upgrading and we'd be happy to do it, I'm not going to go mad though, its not worth spending a huge amount on an old airframe. Just enough so they can be used as air defence interceptors.
Al-Sabir
09-05-2004, 19:25
Great, take all the time you need. I know the Super Hornet is a new plane, but I also got the EA-135C, which is even better. An upgraded Super Hornet would be nice to complement the EA-220B in ground attack roles.
This reminded me about the fact that I also have 72 MiG-21s. Could those be upgraded as well? Or are those too old?
If your doing that I assume I assume you woul dwant to give them an electronic warfare capability as well, so they can provide standoff jamming?
Mig-21s are worth upgrading and we'd be happy to do it, I'm not going to go mad though, its not worth spending a huge amount on an old airframe. Just enough so they can be used as air defence interceptors.
Yeah, electronic warfare capability is fine, it has proven its usefulness against those damn Lusakan SAM sites.
The Federal Dynamics Consortium (FDC) was formed rcently following an announcement from the Elias military that it was going to upgrade a wide range of systems rather than replace them. FDC is a joint venture agreement between Elias Aerospace, Elias Precision Engineering and various defence related electronics companies and the consortium is designed to provide comprehensive customised upgrades for any aircraft in service whether it be civil or military.
All Upgrades are directly designed for each customer and any nation who wishes to upgrade existing aircraft should please post here and await a reply after we have evaluated each case and determined the improvements we should make and issue a quote. Customers can specifiy what they require or do not require but we will always source materials and systems from United Elias companies unless there is specific case not to.
Prices will vary depending on the size of the order and the complexity of the changes involved. If at any time we believe that the cost of upgrading a type is either more or close to that of purchasing a new platform we wil recommend modern Elias products to suit your needs.
OOC: Can you upgrade Veritech (Variable) Fighters? they are pretty much just like an airplane but they transform into humanoid mecha (anime reference).
United Elias
09-05-2004, 20:20
The Federal Dynamics Consortium (FDC) was formed rcently following an announcement from the Elias military that it was going to upgrade a wide range of systems rather than replace them. FDC is a joint venture agreement between Elias Aerospace, Elias Precision Engineering and various defence related electronics companies and the consortium is designed to provide comprehensive customised upgrades for any aircraft in service whether it be civil or military.
All Upgrades are directly designed for each customer and any nation who wishes to upgrade existing aircraft should please post here and await a reply after we have evaluated each case and determined the improvements we should make and issue a quote. Customers can specifiy what they require or do not require but we will always source materials and systems from United Elias companies unless there is specific case not to.
Prices will vary depending on the size of the order and the complexity of the changes involved. If at any time we believe that the cost of upgrading a type is either more or close to that of purchasing a new platform we wil recommend modern Elias products to suit your needs.
OOC: Can you upgrade Veritech (Variable) Fighters? they are pretty much just like an airplane but they transform into humanoid mecha (anime reference).
certainly not. Modern tech only.
oh well.
can you upgrade our EW-22 Commando ECM Craft? even though we have ok ECM Systems, we donot have anyithing very advanced, even by modern day terms. the EW-22 Is less more modern tech then Zoogie.
United Elias
10-05-2004, 00:41
Esryia: I would rather stick to RL aircraft for the moment and anyway I'm quite busy with Al-Sabir at the moment, this stuff takes a while.
To: Mohammed El Kadi, Ministry of Defense, Al-Sabir
From: Chief Executive Officer, Federal Dynamics Corporation
Subject: F/A-18F Upgrade Package
Our teams has considered the problems you have presented us with and we have come up with an initial proposition for the F/A-18UE-AS (provisional designation, feel free to invent your own) with various costings attributed to it. If there is a particular item you deem unneccessary feel free to reject it and if there is anything else you require we should be able to accomodate it.
As far as prcing is concerned, we have attempted to reduce costs in every way possible and we quote prices on a per aircraft basis. Where there is very specialised equipment that has been developed solely for this aircraft we also charge you for the development costs incurred.
Replacement of touch-sensitive control display with VTAS system:
I’ve heard that the Super Hornet’s touch screen controls are proving to be unreliable and difficult to use in high G maneuvers so we propose to fit a voice-throttle-and-stick system (VTAS) similar to EA-135. The stick and throttle tops house 28 fingertip controls for sensor and weapon control, defence aids management, and in-flight handling. The direct voice input allows the pilot to carry out mode selection and data entry procedures using voice command.
-Estimated Price: $220,000 per aircraft
Installation of Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared:
EAS-FLIR/490 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. The navigation laser spot tracker and targeting FLIR functions on today's F/A-18 aircraft are provided by three separate pods. In the FLIR/490 the system is integrated into one aerodynamic pod fitted below the port intake that does not interfere with weapon hardpoints.
-Estimated Price: $950,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1158 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is based on the EA-135’s and is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar/ millimetric/ laser illumination detection and threat warning, supersonically capable towed decoy systems, laser warning receivers, 50 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher and active IR/ laser missile dazzler system.
-Estimated Price: $1,510,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Powerplants:
Replacing F414-GE-400 turbofans producing 22,000lb of thrust when afterburning with new EPE-37M2 Turbofans each producing 23,140lb of thrust when afterburning. New turbofans incorporate three-stage fan, shroud less titanium swept-chord fan blades and is powered by a single-stage low-pressure turbine. The engine's core has an aerodynamically efficient six-stage compressor driven by a single-stage high-pressure turbine featuring the next generation of single-crystal super alloy blades with improved cooling management. The robust, but compact, high-pressure compressor features integrally bladed rotor disks for improved durability and three-dimensionally designed airfoils. The new Powerplants improve engine efficiency by about 12-15% as well as increasing max speed to Mach 1.85.
-Estimated Price: $7,450,000 per aircraft plus 18,000,000 development cost
Installation of Electronic Warfare Suite:
EAS-TJS/21 Tactical Jamming system has been designed to give maximum EW capability to the aircraft while not making any changes that would reduce capability in other roles. The system consists of: a set of receiver arrays that are integrated into a pair of pods which attach to the wingtip AAM hardpoints, and between two and four AN/ALQ-99 Jamming Pods that are attached to weapons hardpoints. The AN/ALQ-99 intercepts and automatically processes radar signals and power manages the system's transmitters to effectively jam large numbers of diverse radar threats with very high effective radiated power. To control the receivers and the jammers, the aircraft’s rear cockpit will be upgraded with a separate Electronic Warfare display. The system can be attached or detached in the same amount of time as weapons loading to give huge amount of flexibility and interchange between missions.
-Estimated Price: $2,250,000 per aircraft (including four jamming pods)
RCS Reduction:
To reduce the Radar Cross Section of the aircraft, precise robotic processes will apply a new RAM coating to nearly 75 percent of the airframe and significantly reduce the Radar cross section. Unlike previous coatings it is much more durable and will not suffer from salt corrosion which is vital for naval aircraft.
-Estimated Price: $1,100,000 per aircraft
Conformal Fuel Tanks:
The aircraft will be trialed with specifically designed conformal fuel tanks, which could extend the range in excess of 20% with little affect to the aerodynamic performance of the aircraft and no reduction in weapons payload.
-Estimated Price: $420,000 per aircraft plus 1,200,000 development costs
Radar:
ERSS-228B radar is an elliptical, active electronically scanned antenna array of 2000 transmitter/receive modules which provides agility, low radar cross section and wide bandwidth. The radar is able to sweep 120 degrees of airspace instantaneously. In comparison to the F-15 Strike Eagle's APG-70 radar takes 14 seconds to scan that amount of airspace.
The system exhibits a very low radar cross section, supporting the and offers significant advantages over the current AN/APG-73 radar. Among its most attractive benefits is the integration of agile beam steering. This feature allows the radar to carry out multiple functions, such as searching, tracking, and engaging targets simultaneously. Agile beam steering also enables the radar to concurrently search multiple portions of airspace, while allowing continued tracking of priority targets.
The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems therefre the ERSS-228B radar is capable of performing an active radar search on RWR/ESM equipped fighter aircraft without the target knowing he is being illuminated.
The radar system allows aircrews to detect ground targets from longer ranges using the Synthetic Aperture Mode. For example, the crew can pick out bridges and airfields on the radar display from more than 80 miles away, while at closer ranges targets as small as vehicles can be easily detected. The SAR mode can also locate aircraft flying close to the ground while the F/A-18 is flying well above them (20,000 - 30,000 feet above them for example).
Specifications:
Targets: 25 air targets
Air surveillance: 200nm
Surface scan vs. large targets: 95nm
Surface scan vs. small targets: 25nm
Rear scan: 50nm
-Estimated Price: $1,420,000 per aircraft
Total Price Per Aircraft: 15,510,000
Overall Price based on 976 aircraft and including development costs: $1,523,670,000
Al-Sabir
10-05-2004, 18:21
Excellent upgrades, I have no further requirements.
I think I'll put the 96 Hornets in two of my fast freighters and send them to you, so your engineers can upgrade them.
Money is already wired.
About the MiGs, there are actually 96 of them. There are all upgraded once, but that only added slightly stronger engines (only increased speed)
United Elias
11-05-2004, 17:36
Excellent upgrades, I have no further requirements.
I think I'll put the 96 Hornets in two of my fast freighters and send them to you, so your engineers can upgrade them.
Money is already wired.
About the MiGs, there are actually 96 of them. There are all upgraded once, but that only added slightly stronger engines (only increased speed)
Please send the aircraft to Brunei, Federal Dynamics has decided to lcoate there to provide a boost for the hi-tech sectir in the colony.
I'l get working on the Migs now and if the engines have been upgraded then I won't bother changing them as it will probably double or triple the cost of the upgrade.
Al-Sabir
11-05-2004, 18:52
Excellent upgrades, I have no further requirements.
I think I'll put the 96 Hornets in two of my fast freighters and send them to you, so your engineers can upgrade them.
Money is already wired.
About the MiGs, there are actually 96 of them. There are all upgraded once, but that only added slightly stronger engines (only increased speed)
Please send the aircraft to Brunei, Federal Dynamics has decided to lcoate there to provide a boost for the hi-tech sectir in the colony.
I'l get working on the Migs now and if the engines have been upgraded then I won't bother changing them as it will probably double or triple the cost of the upgrade.
The Hornets are on their way to Brunei as we speak. How much time do you think the upgrading will take?
The MiG's engines aren't worth upgrading. The're good enough at the moment and we would like to keep this cost-effective.
Can you also upgrade other aircraft we have? Or do you have no time?
United Elias
11-05-2004, 19:30
The upgrades hsould be complete in four Days RL.
Yes I can upgrade others as well, if you give be a whole list of what you want I can work on it in my own time, just don't ecpect super-quick results. Mind you in this field I seem to have a monopoly :lol: so you can't go anywhere else :wink: .
United Elias
11-05-2004, 19:33
The upgrades hsould be complete in four Days RL.
Yes I can upgrade others as well, if you give be a whole list of what you want I can work on it in my own time, just don't ecpect super-quick results. Mind you in this field I seem to have a monopoly :lol: so you can't go anywhere else :wink: .
Al-Sabir
11-05-2004, 19:56
Well, I don't mind waiting.
I'll post a complete list of aircraft that need upgrading tomorrow or so.
Al-Sabir
13-05-2004, 14:33
Here's our list, as promised:
- 120 A-10 Thunderbolts, don't need much improvements, making it less vulnerable to modern SAMs would be nice and please keep it relatively cheap for this aircraft. If you have any other upgrades in mind you think advisable, please tell us.
- 44 B-1B Lancers, smaller RCS, improved engines, better countermeasures and other advanced stuff. We don't really care about the price with this one, because almost no one sells good longe-range bombers at the moment in NS, so their service life will propably be extended for another 30 NS years (with the possibility of further extension, if the Airforce hasn't found a good replacement)
- 12 B-2A Spirits, don't know what to upgrade here exactly, don't know if they have to be improved. If it's too expensive to upgrade them or if it's unnecessary in your opinion, please tell us.
United Elias
13-05-2004, 17:58
Here's our list, as promised:
- 120 A-10 Thunderbolts, don't need much improvements, making it less vulnerable to modern SAMs would be nice and please keep it relatively cheap for this aircraft. If you have any other upgrades in mind you think advisable, please tell us.
- 44 B-1B Lancers, smaller RCS, improved engines, better countermeasures and other advanced stuff. We don't really care about the price with this one, because almost no one sells good longe-range bombers at the moment in NS, so their service life will propably be extended for another 30 NS years (with the possibility of further extension, if the Airforce hasn't found a good replacement)
- 12 B-2A Spirits, don't know what to upgrade here exactly, don't know if they have to be improved. If it's too expensive to upgrade them or if it's unnecessary in your opinion, please tell us.
Okay great, no problem.
We were planning a stealthy long range supersonic bomber at one stage but Credonia's generosity left us with a fleet of 69 B-2As in addition to our 98 Tu-160s and 128 Tu-22M3s so it was not really neccessary to spend 60+ billion developing a new type. Anyway the good news is that since we're upgrading our entire bomber fleet we can have quite a high degree of commonality which will reduce the costs significantly for your B-1M and B-2M. For the B-2, I'll create an upgrade package based on what we want for ours and then modify it to suit you, should you want to.
United Elias
13-05-2004, 18:58
Here is some prelimary stuff on the Mig-21UE-AS with everything apart from the radar which we are waiting to hear from Crookfur about. Projected costs per aircraft about 1.8 to 2 million.
Replacement of Cockpit Flight Controls
The MiG-21UE cockpit features a new pilot-friendly layout, incorporating a head-up display (HUD), eye-level multi-function colour displays, hands on throttle and stick control (HOTAS), solid-state charge coupled device (CCD) camera, videotape recorder, and one-piece windshield. In addition, the use of a new inertial navigation and global positioning system (INS/GPS) and air data computer ensures increased navigation and weapons-release accuracy. This entire system overcomes the shortcomings of the original cockpit layout, which is crowded and lacks most of the desired man-machine interface characteristics.
-Estimated Price: $390,000 per aircraft
Installation of Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Weapons Control System:
The EAS-WCS/37 augments the original weapons system by introducing a new armament interface and control unit, which enables computerised control and release of weapons, including third- and fourth-generation air-to-air missiles such as the EAW-67 Viper. This system also affords the pilot the ability to use blind attack as well as continuously computed impact point (CCIP) and dive-toss bombing techniques. CCIP bombing involves the deployment of air-to-ground weapons, using the HUD to indicate the impact point for release of the weapons. Dive-toss bombing involves the release of air-to-ground weapons at the end of a steep dive maneuver towards the target.
-Estimated Price: $240,000 per aircraft
United Korean Nations
13-05-2004, 19:35
We need our Tu-16 Badgers uPdated. they have deteriorated over the years until only 5 are operational with out a complete overhaul. we need;
25 Tu-16 Badger - Better Payload, Better Radar, Faster, Longer Range, Stealthier. they also need an overhaul to get them operational again.
United Elias
13-05-2004, 19:43
We need our Tu-16 Badgers uPdated. they have deteriorated over the years until only 5 are operational with out a complete overhaul. we need;
25 Tu-16 Badger - Better Payload, Better Radar, Faster, Longer Range, Stealthier. they also need an overhaul to get them operational again.
Okay, what funding do you have available and how much do you want to spend?
United Korean Nations
13-05-2004, 19:46
We need our Tu-16 Badgers uPdated. they have deteriorated over the years until only 5 are operational with out a complete overhaul. we need;
25 Tu-16 Badger - Better Payload, Better Radar, Faster, Longer Range, Stealthier. they also need an overhaul to get them operational again.
Okay, what funding do you have available and how much do you want to spend?
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=United%20Korean%20Nations&defenseprovided=1&defense=10&militarybudget=1
we are willing to spend just under 500 million USD on this refit.
United Elias
13-05-2004, 19:52
We need our Tu-16 Badgers uPdated. they have deteriorated over the years until only 5 are operational with out a complete overhaul. we need;
25 Tu-16 Badger - Better Payload, Better Radar, Faster, Longer Range, Stealthier. they also need an overhaul to get them operational again.
Okay, what funding do you have available and how much do you want to spend?
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=United%20Korean%20Nations&defenseprovided=1&defense=10&militarybudget=1
we are willing to spend just under 500 million USD on this refit.
Okay but I suggest you use this calculator its more accurate:
http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html
United Korean Nations
13-05-2004, 19:55
We need our Tu-16 Badgers uPdated. they have deteriorated over the years until only 5 are operational with out a complete overhaul. we need;
25 Tu-16 Badger - Better Payload, Better Radar, Faster, Longer Range, Stealthier. they also need an overhaul to get them operational again.
Okay, what funding do you have available and how much do you want to spend?
http://www.pipian.com/stuffforchat/gdpcalc.php?nation=United%20Korean%20Nations&defenseprovided=1&defense=10&militarybudget=1
we are willing to spend just under 500 million USD on this refit.
Okay but I suggest you use this calculator its more accurate:
http://members.fortunecity.com/thracetailteann/html/gnp.html
thanks
United Elias
13-05-2004, 23:15
United Elias
13-05-2004, 23:23
United Korean Nations:
Our expert team of analysts have reviewed the status of your present Tu-16 aircraft and have estimated the costs of modernisation to be disproportionately high to the increase in capability. First of all it would require between 5 and 8 million per aircraft to make them airworthy once again. In order to increase range/speed we would have to replace the two turbojets with four much more efficient turbofans. This would mean we would have to charge you somewhere between 20 and 30 million to develop an engine and then a price of about four million per engine. This woudl then require changes to the airframe and wings as well as revised intake and outake configurations which would cost probably around 1 million for each aircraft. That is only structural changes and you are already looking at around 610 million for the whole fleet without any modern avionics at all.
Our suggestion would be therefore to purchase equipment that is more modern while not being brand new and we would be willing to sell you early prouction Tu-22M (http://globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/tu-22m.htm) strategic bombers for the reasonable price of 32 million per aircraft. To bring your fleet back up to 25 you need to spend 800 million but recieve vastly improved performance. If you were interested you could spend a few million extra on each aircraft and we could upgrade the avionics and make some simple changes that could improve capability.
United Korean Nations
14-05-2004, 19:39
United Korean Nations:
Our expert team of analysts have reviewed the status of your present Tu-16 aircraft and have estimated the costs of modernisation to be disproportionately high to the increase in capability. First of all it would require between 5 and 8 million per aircraft to make them airworthy once again. In order to increase range/speed we would have to replace the two turbojets with four much more efficient turbofans. This would mean we would have to charge you somewhere between 20 and 30 million to develop an engine and then a price of about four million per engine. This woudl then require changes to the airframe and wings as well as revised intake and outake configurations which would cost probably around 1 million for each aircraft. That is only structural changes and you are already looking at around 610 million for the whole fleet without any modern avionics at all.
Our suggestion would be therefore to purchase equipment that is more modern while not being brand new and we would be willing to sell you early prouction Tu-22M (http://globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/tu-22m.htm) strategic bombers for the reasonable price of 32 million per aircraft. To bring your fleet back up to 25 you need to spend 800 million but recieve vastly improved performance. If you were interested you could spend a few million extra on each aircraft and we could upgrade the avionics and make some simple changes that could improve capability.
we are willing to 450 million USD this year and 450 million USD the next for upgraded Tu-22M Bombers. what we need is;
Strategic Range
Nuclear Capibility (so when we aquire nukes these bombers can serve as a nuclear detterment)
Better Avionics
Better Stealth
United Korean Nations
14-05-2004, 20:52
bump
United Elias
14-05-2004, 23:44
Okay give me until tommorrow, and I'll work something out, with 4 million per aircraft it limits us a bit but we can arrange something. Maybe we'll do it in various stages so so you can fund further upgrades when you can afford it.
United Elias
14-05-2004, 23:44
Okay give me until tommorrow, and I'll work something out, with 4 million per aircraft it limits us a bit but we can arrange something. Maybe we'll do it in various stages so so you can fund further upgrades when you can afford it.
United Korean Nations
14-05-2004, 23:55
Okay give me until tommorrow, and I'll work something out, with 4 million per aircraft it limits us a bit but we can arrange something. Maybe we'll do it in various stages so so you can fund further upgrades when you can afford it.
nevermind the cost. about 4 billion USD is tops for the entire project
United Elias
15-05-2004, 00:04
Okay give me until tommorrow, and I'll work something out, with 4 million per aircraft it limits us a bit but we can arrange something. Maybe we'll do it in various stages so so you can fund further upgrades when you can afford it.
nevermind the cost. about 4 billion USD is tops for the entire project
I doubt it will cost that much.
Although it is not normal policy of our government to export nuclear weapons, we might consider selling between twenty and fifty Kh-22 (http://globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/as-4.htm) standoff missiles. They may use rather dated technology but they still carry 350 kiloton warheads supersonically, which even modern western missiles can't do. A Tu-22M can carry three each or long range missions one each. However you would not be permitted to attempt to dismantle or reverse-engineer these weapons in any way and by selling them we would ask you to sign an agreement that you will nto start your own nuclear program for at two months (RL).
United Korean Nations
15-05-2004, 00:18
Okay give me until tommorrow, and I'll work something out, with 4 million per aircraft it limits us a bit but we can arrange something. Maybe we'll do it in various stages so so you can fund further upgrades when you can afford it.
nevermind the cost. about 4 billion USD is tops for the entire project
I doubt it will cost that much.
Although it is not normal policy of our government to export nuclear weapons, we might consider selling between twenty and fifty Kh-22 (http://globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/russia/as-4.htm) standoff missiles. They may use rather dated technology but they still carry 350 kiloton warheads supersonically, which even modern western missiles can't do. A Tu-22M can carry three each or long range missions one each. However you would not be permitted to attempt to dismantle or reverse-engineer these weapons in any way and by selling them we would ask you to sign an agreement that you will nto start your own nuclear program for at two months (RL).
we do not want to aquire any of the missiles.
United Elias
15-05-2004, 12:25
No problem, but what sort of weapons do you want to be able to use? Currently they only drop unguided bombs and fire Soviet strike missiles.
United Korean Nations
16-05-2004, 06:49
No problem, but what sort of weapons do you want to be able to use? Currently they only drop unguided bombs and fire Soviet strike missiles.
non-nuclear ALCMs, Laser Guided Bombs and Possibly 2 Sparrow missiles for defence.
Al-Sabir
16-05-2004, 12:24
The F/A-18UE-AS Super Hornets are currently undergoing intensive testing on our two Unity Class Carriers. The upgraded Hornet is performing excellent in all tests we've conducted so far. The test pilots are extremely satisfied with the new cockpit lay-out, which is very similar to the EA-135, making it easier for our pilots to switch between the planes without much additional training.
United Korean Nations
16-05-2004, 16:40
bump
United Korean Nations
16-05-2004, 16:40
bump
United Elias
23-05-2004, 12:44
United Korean Nations we present you with your upgraded aircraft that will give your forces affordable and capable strike aircraft. If you haveny any further queries, requirements etc, please ask.
(Sorry for the delay, Ive been real busy)
[i]Tu-22M2-UKN
Universal Cockpit Upgrade Program (UCUP)
This program is an Elias Air Force program to upgrade all Tu-22M3s in service and although your versions are earlier models of the Backfire, the avionics is essentially the same so the upgrade is the same as well. The Current Tu-22M cockpit display units are not capable of supporting complex mission planning or advanced software uses that are needed for modern strike sorties. This program increases survivability by providing critical situational awareness displays, needed for conventional and nuclear operations, keeping pace with current and future guided munitions integration, and improving tactical employment. Enhancements/upgrades/acquisitions include six new ‘glass’ cockpit displays to support the electronic flight instrumentation system (EFIS), which displays flight, engine and sensor data and avionics systems as well as weapons status. The pilot can choose to activate the appropriate selection of flight and mission equipment for take-off mode, cruise mode go-to-war mode and landing mode by using a simple four-way switch. Other new equipment includes beyond line of sight UHF SATCOM data links, vertical situation display replacement, gyro stabilization system upgrade, on-board diagnostics hardware upgrade, electro-multiplexing system upgrade, automatic test system upgrades and the installation of a GPS navigation system linked to the digital mission map display.
-Estimated Price: $6,650,000 per aircraft
Radar:
The ERSS-386A Offensive Radar System is a multi-mode radar with an electronically scanned phased array antenna, which provides high-resolution terrain mapping, velocity data, beacon modes, terrain avoidance, terrain following, position data, weather detection, rendezvous and calibration modes.
-Estimated Price: $2,390,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared:
EAS-FLIR/491 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. Once a traget has been identified using the radar's SAR mode, the FLIR system can designate the target and laser guided weapons can be released. The FLIR system is housed in a new sensor turret below the left intake.
-Estimated Price: $985,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1179 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is based on the EA-220s and is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar/ millimetric/ laser illumination detection and threat warning, supersonically capable towed decoy systems, laser warning receivers, 50 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher and active IR/ laser missile dazzler system.
-Estimated Price: $2,210,000 per aircraft
Complete Airframe Life Extension Program:
CALEP is a program which is being applied to all Tu-22Ms in service with the Elias Air Force and in order to maximise the service lives of your planes we reccomend that we do this to your aircraft as well. As well as a complete removal and overhaul of the engines, APU and hydraulic control systems the CALEP upgrade also replaces leading edge wing structures and horizontal stabilisers and services the wing spars to increase service life by an additional 50,000 to 60,000 hours.
-Estimated Price: $2,890,000 per aircraft
Total Price Per Aircraft (purchase): 32,000,000
Total Price Per Aircraft (upgrade): 15,125,000
Total Price Per Aircraft (total): 47,125
Overall Price based on 25 aircraft: $1,178,125,000
United Korean Nations
23-05-2004, 23:26
very interesting. can you deliver them to ViZion as we are currently expierencing Rebellion.
also, we are interested in a New Naval Fighter to Replace both our MiG-29Ks (Naval Air Supperiority) and MiG-27Ks (Naval Strike). we would need 25 of them. hopefully we can fit both roles into one aircraft as the US has with the F-18 Super Hornet.
United Korean Nations
24-05-2004, 01:18
very interesting. can you deliver them to ViZion as we are currently expierencing Rebellion.
also, we are interested in a New Naval Fighter to Replace both our MiG-29Ks (Naval Air Supperiority) and MiG-27Ks (Naval Strike). we would need 25 of them. hopefully we can fit both roles into one aircraft as the US has with the F-18 Super Hornet.
bump
United Korean Nations
24-05-2004, 01:18
United Korean Nations
24-05-2004, 01:19
very interesting. can you deliver them to ViZion as we are currently expierencing Rebellion.
also, we are interested in a New Naval Fighter to Replace both our MiG-29Ks (Naval Air Supperiority) and MiG-27Ks (Naval Strike). we would need 25 of them. hopefully we can fit both roles into one aircraft as the US has with the F-18 Super Hornet.
bump
United Korean Nations
24-05-2004, 02:11
very interesting. can you deliver them to ViZion as we are currently expierencing Rebellion.
also, we are interested in a New Naval Fighter to Replace both our MiG-29Ks (Naval Air Supperiority) and MiG-27Ks (Naval Strike). we would need 25 of them. hopefully we can fit both roles into one aircraft as the US has with the F-18 Super Hornet.
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United Elias
24-05-2004, 14:06
United Elias:
The SCAF would like to know if you could make upgrades for the following aircraft:
F-15E StrikeEagle
F-117 Nighthawk
AC-130H/U Spectre/Spooky Gunship
We are willing to invest up to $1,500,000,000 per aircraft on upgrades.
you mean 1.5 million on upgrades?
United Elias
24-05-2004, 15:54
very interesting. can you deliver them to ViZion as we are currently expierencing Rebellion.
also, we are interested in a New Naval Fighter to Replace both our MiG-29Ks (Naval Air Supperiority) and MiG-27Ks (Naval Strike). we would need 25 of them. hopefully we can fit both roles into one aircraft as the US has with the F-18 Super Hornet.
bump
The bombers will be delivered as instructed. For a Carrier aircraft we recommend the EA-135:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130193&highlight=
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United Elias
02-06-2004, 16:02
Yeah, I'll bump this one too.
Oh yeah, I'm on it, sorry I've been busy.
United Elias
02-06-2004, 16:02
Yeah, I'll bump this one too.
Oh yeah, I'm on it, sorry I've been busy.
United Elias
22-06-2004, 16:53
Al-Sabir, the B-1 upgrade package is complete but its come out rather expensive, you can take a look at the figures yourself but we recommend dropping the powerplant replacement as its very costly and not really worth it, especially because speed is much improved by simply changing the intakes.
Total Price Per Aircraft: 48,535,000
Overall Price based on 44 aircraft and including development costs: $2,166,740
Without Engine Repalcement:
Overall Price based on 44 aircraft and including development costs: $1,288,400
B-1B --> B-1M
Cockpit Upgrade
The Current B-1 cockpit display units are not capable of supporting complex mission planning or advanced software uses that are needed for modern strike sorties. This upgrade increases survivability by providing critical situational awareness displays, needed for conventional and nuclear operations, keeping pace with current and future guided munitions integration, and improving tactical employment. Enhancements/upgrades/acquisitions include six new ‘glass’ cockpit displays to support the electronic flight instrumentation system (EFIS), which displays flight, engine and sensor data and avionics systems as well as weapons status. The pilot can choose to activate the appropriate selection of flight and mission equipment for take-off mode, cruise mode, go-to-war mode and landing mode by using a simple four-way switch. Other new equipment includes beyond line of sight UHF SATCOM data links, vertical situation display replacement, gyro stabilization system upgrade, on-board diagnostics hardware upgrade, electro-multiplexing system upgrade, automatic test system upgrades and the installation of a GPS navigation system linked to the digital mission map display.
-Estimated Price: $6,650,000 per aircraft
Weapons Systems Upgrade
The B-1M uses a new bomb carrying module type which gives greater flexibility of internal weapons loads. The new weapons control systems and bomb modules are mostly orientated towards conventional weapons although the B-1M can also carry nuclear weapons. The B-1M retains the three bomb bays of the B-1B but also adds removable external hardpoints below the wing roots. The B-1M is also equipped to fire air to air missiles giving it an unprecedented self-defence capability
Each Bay can accommodate: (3 bays in total)
28x 500lb Mk.82 General Purpose Bombs
Or
14 Wind Corrected Munitions Dispensers/CBU-87, 89, 97
Or
10x 1000lb JDAMs/EAW-40A/EAW-38 (all versions)
Or
10x B-61 Nuclear Bombs
Or
8x 1000lb JDAMs/ EAW-40B, 40C Precision Guided Munitions
Or
6x EAW-10/EAW-12/EAW-12ER/EAW-12ER(N)
Or
4x Yakhont-3/ Harpoon
Each under wing Hardpoint: (2 in total)
3x EAW-10/EAW-12/EAW-12ER/EAW-12ER(N)
Or
2x Yakhont-3/ Harpoon
Or
4 EAW-78/AMRAAM
Estimated Price: $5,150,000 per aircraft
Radar:
The ERSS-386A Offensive Radar System is a multi-mode radar with an electronically scanned phased array antenna, which provides high-resolution terrain mapping, velocity data, beacon modes, terrain avoidance, terrain following, position data, weather detection, rendezvous and calibration modes. Among its most attractive benefits is the integration of agile beam steering. This feature allows the radar to carry out multiple functions, such as searching, tracking, and engaging targets simultaneously. Agile beam steering also enables the radar to concurrently search multiple portions of airspace, while allowing continued tracking of priority targets. The Low Probability of Intercept (LPI) capability of the radar defeats conventional RWR/ESM systems therefore the ERSS-386A radar is capable of performing an active radar search on RWR/ESM equipped fighter aircraft without the target knowing he is being illuminated.
The radar system allows aircrews to detect ground targets from longer ranges using the Synthetic Aperture Mode. For example, the crew can pick out bridges and airfields on the radar display from more than 80 miles away, while at closer ranges targets as small as vehicles can be easily detected. The SAR mode can also locate aircraft flying close to the ground while the B-1M is flying well above them (20,000 - 30,000 feet above them for example).
-Estimated Price: $3,390,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared:
EAS-FLIR/491 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. Once a target has been identified using the radar's SAR mode, the FLIR system can designate the target and laser guided weapons can be released. The FLIR system is housed in a new sensor turret below the left intake.
-Estimated Price: $985,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1179 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is based on the EA-220s and is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar/ millimetric/ laser illumination detection and threat warning, supersonically capable towed decoy systems, laser warning receivers, 65 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher and active IR/ laser missile dazzler system.
-Estimated Price: $2,210,000 per aircraft
Complete Airframe Life Extension Program (CALEP):
CALEP is a program which is being applied to all bombers in service with the Elias Air Force to extend the operational lives of the aircraft and is also compatible with the B01 airframe.. As well as a complete removal and overhaul of the all major systems the CALEP upgrade also replaces leading edge wing structures and horizontal stabilizers (points of highest fatigue) and services the wing spars to increase service life by an additional 10,000 to 15,000 hours.
-Estimated Price: $2,890,000 per aircraft
Powerplant Replacement:
Replacing F101-GE-102 turbofans producing 30,780lb of thrust when afterburning with new EPE-55A Turbofans each producing 34,240lb of thrust when afterburning. New turbofans incorporate three-stage fan, shroud less titanium swept-chord fan blades and is powered by a single-stage low-pressure turbine. The engine's core has an aerodynamically efficient six-stage compressor driven by a single-stage high-pressure turbine featuring the next generation of single-crystal super alloy blades with improved cooling management. The robust, but compact, high-pressure compressor features integrally bladed rotor disks for improved durability and three-dimensionally designed airfoils. The new Powerplants improve engine efficiency by about 12-15%.
-Estimated Price: $17,400,000 per aircraft plus 24,000,000 development cost
Air Intake Modification:
The B-1M will also feature variable geometry air inlets to replace the simpler fixed-geometry inlets on B-1B. While this may seem like a minor upgrade it can increase the max speed of the aircraft to Mach 2.1 and combined with the new Powerplants about Mach 2.3. To control the movement of the air intakes, a new automated control system is added and linked to the relevant cockpit displays. An emergency pneumatic system returns the intakes to subsonic flight setting in the event of system failure.
-Estimated Price: $5,400,000 per aircraft plus 7,200,000 development cost
RCS Reduction:
To reduce the Radar Cross Section of the aircraft, precise robotic processes will apply a new RAM coating to nearly 75 percent of the airframe and significantly reduce the Radar cross section. Unlike previous coatings it is much more durable and will not suffer from as much corrosion so is easier to maintain and leaves less uncovered areas.
The new engine intakes are also equipped with improved ducting masks to reduce the RCS of these structures.
-Estimated Price: $4,100,000 per aircraft
Al-Sabir
22-06-2004, 17:07
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Al-Sabir
22-06-2004, 17:09
The new upgrade is looking very good,
Cost is not really an issue, since they will be in ASAF service for at least another 20 NS years. A new powerplant is not necessary, we will do as you suggested. The 44 Lancers will be shipped in different freighters to Brunei (I assume you also want to upgrade these aircraft there) and we look forward to recieving them.
The Commonwealth of Sembryl wishes to upgrade our stock of 10 F/A-18F Super Hornets to F/A-18UE-AS and also purchase 40 of your EA-135B V/STOL aircraft at a reduced price of $45 million dollars per aircraft in exchange for recieving our current stock of 40 baseline F-16 Fighting Falcons. Effectively, we would be buying your EA-135B's at the list price of $51 million dollars each, and selling you our surplus Falcons at the very low price of $6 million dollars each.
United Elias
23-06-2004, 15:33
The new upgrade is looking very good,
Cost is not really an issue, since they will be in ASAF service for at least another 20 NS years. A new powerplant is not necessary, we will do as you suggested. The 44 Lancers will be shipped in different freighters to Brunei (I assume you also want to upgrade these aircraft there) and we look forward to recieving them.
With the Service Life Extension Package you can squeeze another 35-40 years out of them. Of course they'll probably need to be upgraded in about twenty years if you don't find a replacement by then. We are perfoming a very similar upgrade on our Blackjack and Backfires after the 'Advanced Strategic Bomber' (ASB) project was suspended indefinately. The way we see it, our current platforms are more than capable and its better to spend a few billion modernisiing the entire fleet than 50+ billion on developing a new platform which will do much the same job, only we'll have a smaller fleet of them as they will likely cost hundreds of million each.
(I'll work on the B-2M in the next couple of days.)
The Commonwealth of Sembryl wishes to upgrade our stock of 10 F/A-18F Super Hornets to F/A-18UE-AS and also purchase 40 of your EA-135B V/STOL aircraft at a reduced price of $45 million dollars per aircraft in exchange for recieving our current stock of 40 baseline F-16 Fighting Falcons. Effectively, we would be buying your EA-135B's at the list price of $51 million dollars each, and selling you our surplus Falcons at the very low price of $6 million dollars each.
This deal would be acceptable. Federal Dyamics will upgrade your F/A-18Fs at our Brunei facility so please arrange your own transport and the EA-135s will be delivered on batches of 10 (every 2 RL days).
Can you please inform us which version of the F-16 these aircraft are?
Thank you for doing business with us.
This deal would be acceptable. Federal Dyamics will upgrade your F/A-18Fs at our Brunei facility so please arrange your own transport and the EA-135s will be delivered on batches of 10 (every 2 RL days).
Can you please inform us which version of the F-16 these aircraft are?
Thank you for doing business with us.
155,100,000 wired for upgrades to the F/A-18F.
1,800,000,000 wired for 40 EA-135B's.
Total of 1,955,100,000 wired.
Shipment of the 10 F/A-18F Super Hornets and 40 baseline F-16 Fighting Falcons should arrive soon.
United Elias
24-06-2004, 13:29
Al-Sabir, here's the complete Mig-21UE package:
As you can see Ive kept the costs reasonable.
Price Per Aircraft: $2,950,000
Total Project Cost (based on 96 airframes): $283,300,000
Replacement of Cockpit Flight Controls
The MiG-21UE cockpit features a new pilot-friendly layout, incorporating a head-up display (HUD), eye-level multi-function colour displays, hands on throttle and stick control (HOTAS), solid-state charge coupled device (CCD) camera, videotape recorder, and one-piece windshield. In addition, the use of a new inertial navigation and global positioning system (INS/GPS) and air data computer ensures increased navigation and weapons-release accuracy. This entire system overcomes the shortcomings of the original cockpit layout, which is crowded and lacks most of the desired man-machine interface characteristics.
-Estimated Price: $590,000 per aircraft
Installation of Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Weapons Control System:
The EAS-WCS/37 augments the original weapons system by introducing a new armament interface and control unit, which enables computerised control and release of weapons, including third- and fourth-generation air-to-air missiles such as the EAW-67 Viper. This system also affords the pilot the ability to use blind attack as well as continuously computed impact point (CCIP) and dive-toss bombing techniques. CCIP bombing involves the deployment of air-to-ground weapons, using the HUD to indicate the impact point for release of the weapons. Dive-toss bombing involves the release of air-to-ground weapons at the end of a steep dive maneuver towards the target.
-Estimated Price: $240,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1181 aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar illumination detection and 30 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher.
-Estimated Price: $910,000 per aircraft
Radar:
ERSS-281A radar provides 15 separate air-to-air and air-to-ground modes, including long-range, all-aspect detection and tracking, simultaneous multiple-target tracking, and terrain mapping. The planar antenna array is installed in the nose of the aircraft. The radar can track up to 20 air targets while scanning and a search range of approximately 90nm.
-Estimated Price: $1,020,000 per aircraft
Chris gueulette
24-06-2004, 14:47
I want one of every aircraft you have? will we be allies or will you protect me like i would protect you?How fast can u get them here?
United Elias
24-06-2004, 16:25
Al-Sabir here is the upgrade package of the A-10s which you aksed me to keep reasonably priced. Everything here is extremely worthwhile and means the aircraft will be able to function for another 20-30 years.
A-10A --> A-10UE
Price Per Aircraft: $2,842,000
Total Project Cost (based on 120 airframes): $341,040,000
[i]Cockpit Upgrade:
The A-10UE Cockpit features two new multi-function colour displays, hands on throttle and stick control (HOTAS), solid-state charge coupled device (CCD) camera and videotape recorder. In addition, the use of a new inertial navigation and global positioning system (INS/GPS) and air data computer ensures increased navigation and weapons-release accuracy. This entire system overcomes the shortcomings of the original cockpit layout which is simplistic and obsolete. The cockpit is fully integrated for day and night operability and is equipped with head-up and head-down displays and a digital moving map.
-Estimated Price: $512,000 per aircraft
Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Weapons Control System:
The EAS-WCS/38 replaces the original weapons system with a digital stores-managemtn computer, new armament interface and control unit, which enables computerised control and release of weapons, including third- and fourth-generation infrared guided air-to-air missiles such as the EAW-67 Viper for short-range self-defence. This system also affords the pilot the ability to use blind attack as well as continuously computed impact point (CCIP) and dive-toss bombing techniques. CCIP bombing involves the deployment of air-to-ground weapons, using the HUD to indicate the impact point for release of the weapons. Dive-toss bombing involves the release of air-to-ground weapons at the end of a steep dive maneuver towards the target. In addition, the digital stoores-mamangement system allows for te deployment of precision bombs such as JADAMs and Laser guided weapons.
-Estimated Price: $320,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1181B aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar illumination detection and 30 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher.
-Estimated Price: $898,000 per aircraft
Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared Pod:
The EAS-FLIR/530 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. The FLIR system is housed in an aerodyanmic pod fitted to a wing hardpoint.
-Estimated Price: $685,000 per aircraft
Service Life Extension Package (SLEP)
Federal Dynamics will inspect, repair, replace and overhaul many structural and mechanical systems to give the A-10UE an additional 20-30 years of service. The program will replace the outer and center wing panels on the aircraft as these are the highest fatigue points. The engines will also be rmeoved, dismantled, inspected, re-engineers and then refitted.
-Estimated Price: $237,000 per aircraft
United Elias
24-06-2004, 16:25
Al-Sabir here is the upgrade package of the A-10s which you aksed me to keep reasonably priced. Everything here is extremely worthwhile and means the aircraft will be able to function for another 20-30 years.
A-10A --> A-10UE
Price Per Aircraft: $2,842,000
Total Project Cost (based on 120 airframes): $341,040,000
[i]Cockpit Upgrade:
The A-10UE Cockpit features two new multi-function colour displays, hands on throttle and stick control (HOTAS), solid-state charge coupled device (CCD) camera and videotape recorder. In addition, the use of a new inertial navigation and global positioning system (INS/GPS) and air data computer ensures increased navigation and weapons-release accuracy. This entire system overcomes the shortcomings of the original cockpit layout which is simplistic and obsolete. The cockpit is fully integrated for day and night operability and is equipped with head-up and head-down displays and a digital moving map.
-Estimated Price: $512,000 per aircraft
Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Weapons Control System:
The EAS-WCS/38 replaces the original weapons system with a digital stores-managemtn computer, new armament interface and control unit, which enables computerised control and release of weapons, including third- and fourth-generation infrared guided air-to-air missiles such as the EAW-67 Viper for short-range self-defence. This system also affords the pilot the ability to use blind attack as well as continuously computed impact point (CCIP) and dive-toss bombing techniques. CCIP bombing involves the deployment of air-to-ground weapons, using the HUD to indicate the impact point for release of the weapons. Dive-toss bombing involves the release of air-to-ground weapons at the end of a steep dive maneuver towards the target. In addition, the digital stoores-mamangement system allows for te deployment of precision bombs such as JADAMs and Laser guided weapons.
-Estimated Price: $320,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1181B aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar illumination detection and 30 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher.
-Estimated Price: $898,000 per aircraft
Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared Pod:
The EAS-FLIR/530 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. The FLIR system is housed in an aerodyanmic pod fitted to a wing hardpoint.
-Estimated Price: $685,000 per aircraft
Service Life Extension Package (SLEP)
Federal Dynamics will inspect, repair, replace and overhaul many structural and mechanical systems to give the A-10UE an additional 20-30 years of service. The program will replace the outer and center wing panels on the aircraft as these are the highest fatigue points. The engines will also be rmeoved, dismantled, inspected, re-engineers and then refitted.
-Estimated Price: $237,000 per aircraft
United Elias
24-06-2004, 16:25
Al-Sabir here is the upgrade package of the A-10s which you aksed me to keep reasonably priced. Everything here is extremely worthwhile and means the aircraft will be able to function for another 20-30 years.
A-10A --> A-10UE
Price Per Aircraft: $2,842,000
Total Project Cost (based on 120 airframes): $341,040,000
Cockpit Upgrade:
The A-10UE Cockpit features two new multi-function colour displays, hands on throttle and stick control (HOTAS), solid-state charge coupled device (CCD) camera and videotape recorder. In addition, the use of a new inertial navigation and global positioning system (INS/GPS) and air data computer ensures increased navigation and weapons-release accuracy. This entire system overcomes the shortcomings of the original cockpit layout which is simplistic and obsolete. The cockpit is fully integrated for day and night operability and is equipped with head-up and head-down displays and a digital moving map.
-Estimated Price: $512,000 per aircraft
Helmet Mounted Cueing System:
EAS-HMCS/12 combines a magnetic head tracker with a display projected onto the pilot's visor, giving the pilot a targeting device that can be used to aim sensors and weapons wherever the pilot is looking. With HMCS, the pilot can aim the radar, air-to-air missiles, infrared sensors, and air-to-ground weapons merely by pointing his/her head at the target and pressing a switch on the flight controls. Additionally, the pilot can view any desired data (airspeed, altitude, target range, etc.) while "heads-up", eliminating the need to look into the cockpit during visual air combat.
-Estimated Price: $190,000 per aircraft
Installation of Advanced Weapons Control System:
The EAS-WCS/38 replaces the original weapons system with a digital stores-managemtn computer, new armament interface and control unit, which enables computerised control and release of weapons, including third- and fourth-generation infrared guided air-to-air missiles such as the EAW-67 Viper for short-range self-defence. This system also affords the pilot the ability to use blind attack as well as continuously computed impact point (CCIP) and dive-toss bombing techniques. CCIP bombing involves the deployment of air-to-ground weapons, using the HUD to indicate the impact point for release of the weapons. Dive-toss bombing involves the release of air-to-ground weapons at the end of a steep dive maneuver towards the target. In addition, the digital stoores-mamangement system allows for te deployment of precision bombs such as JADAMs and Laser guided weapons.
-Estimated Price: $320,000 per aircraft
Replacement of Countermeasures System:
EAS-ECM/1181B aircraft's defensive aids sub-system is accommodated within the aircraft structure and integrated with the avionics system and includes: an electronic countermeasures/support measures system (ECM/ESM), front and rear missile approach warners, full automatic radar illumination detection and 30 round chaff/ flare/ DPS launcher.
-Estimated Price: $898,000 per aircraft
Advanced Forward-Looking Infrared Pod:
The EAS-FLIR/530 features state-of-the-art, third-generation, mid-wave infrared targeting and navigation FLIRs, an electro-optical sensor, laser rangefinder, target designator, and laser spot tracker. This third-generation FLIR demonstrates a three to four times improvement in target detection and recognition over first-generation systems. The FLIR system is housed in an aerodyanmic pod fitted to a wing hardpoint.
-Estimated Price: $685,000 per aircraft
Service Life Extension Package (SLEP)
Federal Dynamics will inspect, repair, replace and overhaul many structural and mechanical systems to give the A-10UE an additional 20-30 years of service. The program will replace the outer and center wing panels on the aircraft as these are the highest fatigue points. The engines will also be rmeoved, dismantled, inspected, re-engineers and then refitted.
-Estimated Price: $237,000 per aircraft
Al-Sabir
25-06-2004, 11:35
IC: Everything is looking good, as always. The only thing is that one complete squadron of A-10s (24 aircraft) has been scrapped, as we found a nice smaller complementing aircraft. If you're losing money (as the whole upgrading project was based on more aircraft), the ASAF would have no problems with paying some compensation funds.
The price for the MiG-21UE-AS, the A-10UE-AS and the B-1M is $1,844,432,000 (with no compensation) and will be wired upon confirmation.
OOC: I placed an order for the upgrades of the EA-160 on the CAP forum, I'm not sure if you noticed, so would you so kind to confirm it.
Also, could you confirm some orders I placed in these threads?
EA-100 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=151981&highlight=)
EA-95 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135381&highlight=)
EA-26 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68324&start=80)
United Elias
26-07-2004, 13:56
A-10A --> A-10UE
Price Per Aircraft: $2,842,000
Total Project Cost (based on 96 airframes): $272,832,000
No compensation or cancellation fees are necessary as no new pieces of equipment were specifically developed for this upgrade. Thank you for the consideration anyway.
United Elias
16-12-2004, 19:11
bump