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Schultaria Prime, in a concerted effort to band nations of technological and industrial might, has allocated funding to sponsor a new alliance project. With international tensions and violence on an ever increasing slope, we hope to foster a new sense of brotherhood and fraternity through the peaceful endeavors of science and technology.

The Alliance of Pure Research and Engineering States, or TAPRES, would bring nations together who value the scientific process and the creation of new and wonderful technologies. However, this alliance can not stand with the support of only one nation. We would like to entertain ideas from other nations to generate support, and possibly a working treaty in the near future.

We hope that an alliance such as this will find support in the international community. Thank you for your time in contributing to this project.

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I, Cypher, being the leader of a economic and growing technicological might, hearby pledge my support to this 'alliance'. I hope that together we will be able to forge a far brighter future for technology... and the people who use it, of course.

Cypher
Leader of Cypherion

We, the United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime, thank you for your pledge of support. Hopefully the idea of TAPRES will become a successful conglomeration of nations in the near future.

As founder of the Technocracy (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=136803), I can say that this interests me greatly.

We hope that the associations of TAPRES and Technocracy can come together and work for the benefit of all nations throughout the world. Please, if you have any questions, concerns, or ideas please contact us.

(OOC: If you have ever read the Dune series, it's my vision to see the influence of TAPRES on all NS scientific affairs comparable to that of Ix. However, we do require nations of considerable strength economically and technically to assist us; your support would be greatly appreciated.)

BUMP

Schultaria Prime,

We believe this is a lofty but worthy and altogether necessary endeavor for the grim days we find ourselves around the universe. However, Tarqys is not a technological might and it's scientific discoveries are un-inspired at best.

What we can offer is our support and complete recognition of this alliance. Schultaria Prime, you have Tarqysian support, friendship and understanding behind this alliance. Perhaps someday we can engage more fully but as of late we can not.

Godspeed to lightspeed,

Skyee Denver
Director of Foreign Affairs
Commonwealth of Tarqys
http://www.geocities.com/tarqys/opening.html

The United Socialist States of Neo-Soviet Russia, like that, isn't at the higher rung of NationStates technological powers. Regardless, if allowed, we would like to join this alliance, giving moral and financial support of sorts. As time goes, we hope that our own scientists and engineers will be able to learn and become equals with others in both understanding and creating the tecnology of the future.

Any and all support, no matter how large or small, is truly and deeply appreciated. Even if you consider your nations technically or industrially low-key, TAPRES is designed to serve as a civil alliance dedicated to improving individual nations through practical means. We hope that you will join this organization in the near future.


(OOC: I think with each post the alliance is defined with a greater resolution. Thank you for your replies thus far.)

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New Manifoldia pledges economic and technical support to the new alliance, in the hope of practical technological advances and a better future for mankind.

We thank the Nation of New Manifoldia for their support, it is greatly appreciated. With the countless uprisings, rebellions, diplomatic failures, and open wars on the rise, it is a breath of fresh air to see that many nations are choosing to band together for the sake of peaceful technological endeavors.

-Director Joan Covey

BUMP: To bring this alliance to a broader audience.

The People's Reuplic of South Stofficka will support this alliance.

The United Socialist States of Schultaria Prime thanks the People's Republc of South Stofficka for their support. It is our hope te develop and propose a lasting treaty to finalize the objective of TAPRES within 7 NS years (1 Week).

May all of our nations prosper from this diplomacy.

We will be interested to see what the final edit on the mission statement of the alliance is. Increasing the technological convenience of our citizens to allow them more time to increase economic productivity is a lofty goal indeed however we will not be suporting anything that is not more fully realized and defined.

However, we would be willing to support this alliance, with a percentage portion of our national revenues, if it were to do certain things.

-Make payments to smaller countries to increase their economic and technological base
-Place failsafes within the counties recieving payments to cease the developments of 'undesirable technology' (ie Inter contenintal delivery systems, nuclear weapons, biological and chemical weapons etc)
-actively encourage nations who are too large to be baited in the above manner to voluntarily have the safe gaurds placed

We are very interested in this inititive and would not like to see it die in its infancy, who else is interested in this?

bump?

this interests no one?

Nova Hope,

You propose interesting and meaningul ideas. Tarqys would like to learn more about the details of such a proposal and what amount of funding this ammendment to Schultaria Prime's alliance would incur to participating nations.

We are indeed interested.

-Tarqysian Government

The Nomadic Tribes of Xaniqall find that increased technology is undesirable and at current rates, modern society will shortly become unsustainable. We have long remained nomadic hunter-gatherers, herders and small scale permaculturists, and feel that this would be a more desirable path. Any meetings of this alliance can expect groups from our area to protest.

Nova Hope,

You propose interesting and meaningul ideas. Tarqys would like to learn more about the details of such a proposal and what amount of funding this ammendment to Schultaria Prime's alliance would incur to participating nations.

We are indeed interested.

-Tarqysian Government

Quite simply any member nation of said group with a governmental revenue in excess of two trillion dollars would donate %1 of their revenue to the organization.

However to incourage a greater participation in the growth of the organization, without making the smaller members feel that they are being run rough shoed over, we can make your vote in the decisons of the organization equal to the percentage of their GDP over the mandatory 1%.

ex.

(I realize we are not quite yet making 3 trillion but for the sake of mathmatics we are going to in this example.)

If Nova Hope donates ninety billion every real life day, which is %3 of our 3 trillion, we would get a vote of 2. If voting for the organizational head, a plan of action, or what ever else. We get two votes.

If a nation who has only recently cleared the two trillion mark donates ninety billion however. They would get three and a half votes as that same 90 billion is %4.5 of their gdp.

(ooc: this would mean we would etheir have to build or agree on an 'official GDP calculator' Which would be worked out as a group)

end ex.

Does this interest you? We are still willing to negotiate. We would like to set up this organization and begin reqruiting even if Schultaria Prime has abandoned what we see as the best feasable long term plan to prevent harmful technologies from entering rogue nations.

(ooc: If this idea holds water with people I'd love to get a bunch of us together on a chat room or IRC channel or something so that we can bang out details develop a constitution etc. I honestly believe that any new nation would be hard pressed to refuse an infusion of cash and technology of this magnitude. This would then allow our group to have some say over unjust wars and the what have you. They could continue to fight unjust wars. but not with any technological means.)

bump just trying to keep this thing on the front so ppl see it. I think it is a good cause although requiring a long term commitment

OOC: I haven't abandoned this concept. Just hapens to be that I posted this at the worst possible time for me to do any creative thinking; University finals week. Nonetheless I do have a very rough draft of the first article of the charter completed. Please keep in mind that this will probably be one of no less than four seperate articles (Jurisdiction | Directive | Organization | and Exchange).

Also, nice to see that there are some people who value a good peaceful alliance around here....


The Alliance of Pure Research and Engineering States (TAPRES)

GRAND CHARTER AND CONSITUTION



I. The Jurisdiction of TAPRES

-The forms shall be obeyed:

All member nations who officially sign and support this Grand Charter and Constitution are subject to all provisions herein. If a nation cannot follow the guidelines for reasons either internally and internationally, every other nation under TAPRES has the right to reduce any allegiances under this agreement with said nation until such time when they can adhere to the Grand Charter and Constitution entire.

All member nations under jurisdiction shall respect the sovereignty of all intellectual and technical properties generated by member nations or joint ventures under the auspices of TAPRES. Through TAPRES, unless prior arrangements are made, all intellectual and technical properties of both this alliance and each allied nation shall be declared legally copyrighted through the documentation of this agreement. TAPRES shall not violate international law by forcibly sequestering technology and scientific data from either member or non-member nations unless during an open declaration of war (where any of our alliance members are threatened with the possibility physical force).

This organization shall not use excessive or arbitrary force in imposing restrictions, sanctions, or other forms or embargo on non-member nations if they do not comply with international law. All international actions under the general authority of TAPRES will only be declared legal by the vote of a simple majority of all member nations.

This alliance shall, in the near future, form a small central governing body composed of each member nation whose sole component of existence is to monitor and regulate all internal TAPRES affairs as well as officially represent this alliance in international affairs. The form, composition, and limitations of this governing body shall be determined once the Grand Charter and Convention has been ratified.

The Alliance of Pure Research and Engineering States (TAPRES)

GRAND CHARTER AND CONSITUTION



I. The Jurisdiction of TAPRES

-The forms shall be obeyed:

All member nations who officially sign and support this Grand Charter and Constitution are subject to all provisions herein. If a nation cannot follow the guidelines for reasons either internally and internationally, every other nation under TAPRES has the right to reduce any allegiances under this agreement with said nation until such time when they can adhere to the Grand Charter and Constitution entire.

I agree to this as I am a stickler for 'my word is my bond'


All member nations under jurisdiction shall respect the sovereignty of all intellectual and technical properties generated by member nations or joint ventures under the auspices of TAPRES. Through TAPRES, unless prior arrangements are made, all intellectual and technical properties of both this alliance and each allied nation shall be declared legally copyrighted through the documentation of this agreement.


I like this as it seems to be commonsense to me.


TAPRES shall not violate international law by forcibly sequestering technology and scientific data from either member or non-member nations unless during an open declaration of war (where any of our alliance members are threatened with the possibility physical force).


I think allowances need to be made here. a subsection added in about the violations of human rights etc would be more suiting to me. This would not however allow some nations to influence others with divergance of political thought. We can make available to the intellectual elite a method of contacting TAPRES with legitimate criminal concerns. This would only be for member nations of course.



This organization shall not use excessive or arbitrary force in imposing restrictions, sanctions, or other forms or embargo on non-member nations if they do not comply with international law. All international actions under the general authority of TAPRES will only be declared legal by the vote of a simple majority of all member nations.


I agree with this. TAPRES should be a milatary organization second. International threats need to be dealt with on an individual bases. If countries want to use the infastructure that exists in TAPRES to aqquire allies for a temporary coalition then so be it. Milatary action will be used on our own members however if they become overtly millataristic. A policy of keeping one's own house in order.



This alliance shall, in the near future, form a small central governing body composed of each member nation whose sole component of existence is to monitor and regulate all internal TAPRES affairs as well as officially represent this alliance in international affairs. The form, composition, and limitations of this governing body shall be determined once the Grand Charter and Convention has been ratified.


I agree to this all but I have my thoughts on what the governing body will consist of. Everyone has heard my idea of vote by $$ support. I also believe that a 'security council' so to speak should have a veto control. A few powerful member nations, which would not change, that had a veto right. However I was thinking that the veto unlike the UN security council would be a majority vote within said council.

Thank you Nova Hope for your continued interest and contributions to this process. There are a few points that I would like to work out as soon as possible.

With Article I, Paragraph II: "TAPRES shall not violate international law by forcibly sequestering technology ..."

+This was initially designed as a safety valve to prevent our alliance from getting too voracious in its quest for scientific advancement, but I adapted it for a broader international sense. The definitions for what TAPRES will do in individual circumstances shall be better defined in the Directive Article; that (hopefully) should be the equivalent of our mission statement within the Grand Charter and Constitution.


With Article I, Paragraph III: "This organization shall not use excessive or arbitrary force in imposing restrictions, sanctions, or other forms or embargo..."

+We should not directly threaten military action simply because they decide to pursue a more militaristic stance. I would think that a gradualist, but extremely forceful, series of steps would be acceptable.


With Article I, Paragraph IV: "This alliance shall, in the near future, form a small central governing body..."

+Due to Schultarian historical precedent, I am very uneasy by vote simply due to monetary support. Schultaria Prime had similar schemes in its own national elections over 60 NS years ago which led to corporate oligarchic control of our nation. I personally feel that everyone should contribute to the alliance, but this sort of scheme would be very dangerous for all of us should nations with considerable economic clout simply purchase a position of power within the organization and destroy the alliance from the inside out. In my stance, I would favor more of a "One nation, one vote" scheme in an alliance such as this for the time being (until we can generate sufficient international support).

Also, since 1% is quite significant for some nations, I purpose a graduated contribution scale based on certain factors such as economy strength and population size.

Thank you for reading my comments.

Thank you Nova Hope for your continued interest and contributions to this process. There are a few points that I would like to work out as soon as possible.

With Article I, Paragraph II: "TAPRES shall not violate international law by forcibly sequestering technology ..."

+This was initially designed as a safety valve to prevent our alliance from getting too voracious in its quest for scientific advancement, but I adapted it for a broader international sense. The definitions for what TAPRES will do in individual circumstances shall be better defined in the Directive Article; that (hopefully) should be the equivalent of our mission statement within the Grand Charter and Constitution.


Fair enough as a general principle it is good, however I do not want to bond our self unneccassarily. Also I'm not forseeing milatary action against non-member nations just member nations. This might seem odd however we are going to inflate a variety of new nations before we are truly aware of their political intentions. If we are going to give, what we see in hind sight, a madman that much power we need to be prepared to clean up after oursleves.


With Article I, Paragraph III: "This organization shall not use excessive or arbitrary force in imposing restrictions, sanctions, or other forms or embargo..."

+We should not directly threaten military action simply because they decide to pursue a more militaristic stance. I would think that a gradualist, but extremely forceful, series of steps would be acceptable.


Of course a war like posture is always a last ditch effort. The exact steps would be decieded by the council or a referendum of the members.


With Article I, Paragraph IV: "This alliance shall, in the near future, form a small central governing body..."

+Due to Schultarian historical precedent, I am very uneasy by vote simply due to monetary support. Schultaria Prime had similar schemes in its own national elections over 60 NS years ago which led to corporate oligarchic control of our nation. I personally feel that everyone should contribute to the alliance, but this sort of scheme would be very dangerous for all of us should nations with considerable economic clout simply purchase a position of power within the organization and destroy the alliance from the inside out. In my stance, I would favor more of a "One nation, one vote" scheme in an alliance such as this for the time being (until we can generate sufficient international support).


Which is why the staggering effect was suggested in the first place. Nova Hope could put in two trillion dollars and get 65 votes but this would cripple us as we would be paying in %66 of our revenue. Making it harder for richer nations to buy votes means it encourages them to spend more in TAPRES yet get less of a reward if a smaller nation did it. An example would be our GDP per capita is vastly supperior to yours yet our revenues are relatively simmilar. If you were to donate that same two trillion you would get the same 65 votes.

Lets use automagfreek as an example. His revenues are approx. 12 trillion. If he gave two trillion to TAPRES his vote would only be 15. You still do not like this staggared wealth driven approach?


Also, since 1% is quite significant for some nations, I purpose a graduated contribution scale based on certain factors such as economy strength and population size.

Thank you for reading my comments.

I suggested %1 for any country making in exscess of two trillion dollars. Regadless it's a percentage and not a set amount so it wouldn't be that hard. Nova Hope herself runs with a %2 budgetary surplus so that we can have liquid assests on hand.

Lindim, proud of its role as a economic and technological power, though small, would like to join TAPRES. Too many military alliances have overwhelmed the need for such a group as this.

Ilian Persk,
Foreign Minister

OOC: Here is the second article: Directive. Keep in mind that it was 2 in the morning when I wrote this so if it looks a little "spotty" or incomplete just let me know.


II. The Directives of TAPRES

-The forms shall be obeyed:

A. On the situation of scientific research and development:

Each member nation is entirely permitted to conduct private research and development. TAPRES shall acknowledge this as a founding principle of sovereignty of all member nations and shall not be infringed.

All technology developed in joint benefit of TAPRES shall be the sovereign, legally protected, property of all member nations within this signed agreement. Unless a research project is declared as a private joint venture prior to announcement of completion, all technologies developed in concert with two or more nations under TAPRES shall be declared as property of the alliance proper.

TAPRES shall not publicly condone, nor shall it fund, any joint or singular research efforts whose sole aims are the production of pure offensive military weaponry. However, under paragraph I of this section, this research is still permissible under respect for international sovereignty.

Any member nation who endeavors to work on a joint project with one or more TAPRES nations for the benefit of the alliance entire can, and shall, receive funding as per the final decision of the governing body of TAPRES.

B. On the situation of technological and industrial development:

All subsection paragraphs mentioned in section A are also to be applied, wherever fitting and proper, to every member nation’s industry and industrial efforts.

+As a retranslation of Section A, Paragraph III: TAPRES will not condone or fund the sale of industrial components whose sole purpose is to produce weaponry for offensive military purposes. However, in respect and deference to international sovereignty, the sales of these devices are under the direct authority of each member nation.

It shall be the general rule of TAPRES: if any member nation chooses to aid another nation’s industries for the purposes of improving the standards and qualities of living, or to modernize said nation, TAPRES will officially condone such actions. The recipient of such aid can be any nation regardless of their status or affiliations with TAPRES, and all nations seeking funding for such efforts (beyond the scope of military-industrial complexes) shall receive a subsidy as per the final decision of the governing body of TAPRES.

To better understand the technological and industrial requirements of each member nation, TAPRES shall require a small statement from all members and potential applicants. This statement should outline and declare the current state of repair and technological levels of each nation’s industries. All nations, regardless of their technological development, shall be welcomed and accepted if they so choose to adhere to the provisions stated within the Grand Charter and Constitution.

C. On the situation of TAPRES and the international community:

All member nations shall, and will be permitted to, pursue their own foreign policy relatively unrestricted from the governing principles of TAPRES. However, in certain cases where a nation’s international policy might cause irreparable harm to said agreement, TAPRES reserves the right as mediator and arbitrator in disputes where a member nation is involved.

TAPRES, in terms of international policy affecting the whole alliance, shall have the same rights as both a singular nation and as a confederation of members when pursuing policy in the best interests of the alliance. All members of TAPRES have allegiance to the foreign policies of TAPRES, should mediation and arbitration fail, to support this agreement through more aggressive methods.

+If TAPRES should encounter opposition by non-member nations, the general policy of this agreement shall be gradualist in nature as to limit direct destructive military confrontation. However, in extreme cases where an aggressor directly attacks a member nation either without provocation or through the unrestrained usage of: chemical, bio-toxic, or nuclear weapons, TAPRES shall serve as a mutually defensive military alliance until such aggression has abated.

D. On the situation of TAPRES and its component member nations:

All member nations under TAPRES shall not be restricted in voicing their opinion with the current policies and actions of the alliance under the Grand Charter and Constitution. To this effect, neither arbitrary laws nor legislation abridging the concepts of free speech will be permissible within this alliance.

Every nation, regardless of technical or scientific advancement, shall be permitted the option of applying for entry to TAPRES by a vote of the current membership. A margin of a simple majority plus the signature to this agreement shall be sufficient to ally with TAPRES.

TAPRES shall respect and honor each member’s individual growth and development, but shall not condone any overt stance of military power within the international community. Any member nation who seeks to utilize their armed forces in an aggressive manner against either another member nation or within the general international community without provocation shall be subject to immediate sanction and military reprisal. In such instances TAPRES does reserve the right to eject nations who blatantly disobey the aforementioned wishes of the alliance.

A BUMP for more replies and greater international support.

It shall be the general rule of TAPRES: if any member nation chooses to aid another nation’s industries for the purposes of improving the standards and qualities of living, or to modernize said nation, TAPRES will officially condone such actions. The recipient of such aid can be any nation regardless of their status or affiliations with TAPRES, and all nations seeking funding for such efforts (beyond the scope of military-industrial complexes) shall receive a subsidy as per the final decision of the governing body of TAPRES.

I don't know if TAPRES should condone this as any aid from TAPRES to a smaller nation come with reflex safety measures, aid from the individual nation may not.

OOC: I'm sorry, but I had a terrible time trying to read your comment Nova, but I'll give you a rough retranslation of the disputed paragraph (for my sake as well as yours, since I was REALLY tired when I wrote it).

+This is a paragraph to enable members of TAPRES to do benevolent, and sometimes charitable, work for other nations. If a member of TAPRES has a close ally, region mate, or respected business partner who has fallen on some hard times and they want to help by enhancing their friend's industry we should help them in any way possible. TAPRES will, if it sees fit, even allow funds from the alliance to help this member nation perform this charitable work. It does not matter if the recipient of such aid is a member of TAPRES or not; we should be an organization committed to improving life throughout the world regardless of affiliation.

BUMP

OOC: I'm sorry, but I had a terrible time trying to read your comment Nova, but I'll give you a rough retranslation of the disputed paragraph (for my sake as well as yours, since I was REALLY tired when I wrote it).

+This is a paragraph to enable members of TAPRES to do benevolent, and sometimes charitable, work for other nations. If a member of TAPRES has a close ally, region mate, or respected business partner who has fallen on some hard times and they want to help by enhancing their friend's industry we should help them in any way possible. TAPRES will, if it sees fit, even allow funds from the alliance to help this member nation perform this charitable work. It does not matter if the recipient of such aid is a member of TAPRES or not; we should be an organization committed to improving life throughout the world regardless of affiliation.

I have no problem with humanatarian aid. I simply want to impose the safety measures on TAPRES nations and any massive funding, in the technological sector, would only be available to TAPRES nations.

BUMP for more suggestions

:?:

Another BUMP for the morning.

OOC: Fine Print, I hope that was a TAG you placed, otherwise clarify your situation. A question mark represents nothing without a question...

A BUMP for the evening to gain more international support.

Who is still interested in this? Please sound off so we know who we are dealing with.

ooc: If this doesn't go well it might start out as a two member organization. Regardless I'm willing to start it as that and recruit more ppl

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OOC: I will be gone for about a day and a half as I get settled from dorm life to home-at-summer life. However, to those nations that are interested, keep these threads alive and kicking for me!

OOC: I had a insighful and brilliant comment that was washed away when this cute guy wrote me a letter. Therefore:

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DDR, my friends...

Nova Hope and Schultaria Prime,

Tarqys is very interested in TAPRES and we have been reading the previous posts and believe this to be one of the best written, most meaningul alliances and an alliance capable of accomplishing many great things. We are completely flabbergasted that there hasn't been more support for this.

We want to get behind this.

Our suggestions:

Concerning voting -
Every member nation should be awarded at least one vote
Votes will be added based on:

-Scientific/research contributions to TAPRES, TAPRES nations, the world (to be determined how many votes would be added)

-Amount of funding a nation puts into the Alliance, above and beyond a certain amount, but based on percentages. I.E., a nation contributing 1 billion is a nation that only has 45 million people vs. a nation contributing 50 billion, who has well over 2 billion people. The latter nation would have a smaller percentage of domestic funding into the alliance, therefore less at stake in the alliance's doings. The former nation, however, places great amounts of money in the alliance and thus should be rendered greate votes to show greater interest.

Other Suggestions:

-TAPRES should set, in it's by-laws, suspenses. By this we mean TAPRES could specify certain projects that need to be completed or at least certain projects that will be of great universal benefit - i.e., creating handheld, lightweight, cheap defibrillators. Also, TAPRES should attempt to get its member nations involved in multinational projects more often - i.e., construction of an TAPRES/International Space Port/Satellite, scientist exchange program, etc. These would strenghten international relations within the alliance, and make it more of a brother/sisterhood alliance and less an 'intermittent cooperation' alliance.

-TAPRES should establish scientific regulatory committees who will judge standards of measurement, standards of research methods and keep records of inventions and contributions. This would give the alliance worldwide recognition, furthering its cause and 'raison d'etre.'

Additionally, I believe this alliance should be quite small in the beginning. This way, we can work out 'kinks' as we go about it instead of creating an alliance with 30 nations, 25 of whom barely make regular contact.

If we think of anything more, we will present it here. Please keep us posted.

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Exploration, DiCE
Commonwealth of Tarqys

That is beautiful and I love the compromise between the two voting systems proposed. This would allow TAPRES to represent people on their best fields. Or at least their best fields which interest the alliance. We here at Nova Hope are very excited about this alliance and are more than willing to give a large sum of starting funds with no expectations attached for them. Well, the expectation would be that we are a charter member of course but past that nothing.

Nova Hope and Schultaria Prime,

Tarqys is willing to spend at least $50 billion marillions (equivalent to roughly $45 billion USD) to the construction of a TAPRES alliance building/station/headquarters to be built in the desired location of the members or founding nations. We believe that, while others pledge money, we want to pledge money for a definite purpose to help get TAPRES one step closer to reality.

The money would be used to create/buy:
1) Training facilities for all member nations to send their scientists (a maximum number to be determined and admission requisites to be determined) to learn the standardization methods of TAPRES and to further their studies. Outstanding students - those who contribute to the program - would be able to receive additional TAPRES grant moneys and recognition in the form of TAPRES Scientific Awards - on par with Noble Prizes. The curriculum and focus would change regularly. One curriculum might revolve around plate tectonics and

2) Research facilities. These facilities will be rented out based on participation in TAPRES and a vote by an elected council. Then, the scientists may use state-of-the-art software, hardware and technologies to further the development of findings for TAPRES and ultimately the world. This would be on the level of how some nations rent time in observatories to other nations. Instead, there would be no 'renting,' monetarily speaking, but rather, each nation - depending on the amount of input into the alliance - would be granted a certain amount of years (RL Days) to make use of the facilities. Please note that this research/training facility we envision is not the ONLY research TAPRES scientist are allowed to conduct. They may conduct R&D domestically. However, this provides member nations the chance at using very expensive equipment and a chance at meeting very intellectual individuals from all over the world - both of which are hard for a very small, very poor country to accomplish.

3) Expeditiary equipment, such as off-road vehicles, ocean-going vessels, VTOL vehicles and celestial vehicles, all for the purpose of scientific research. Again, like the research facilities, these vehicles would be 'rented' in the same manner: For example, if Tarqys wanted to conduct an oceanographic study of tides, we would request from an elected council in TAPRES if we could utilize a TAPRES ocean-going vessel for N amount of years (RL days). As part of the agreement, we would be required to report our findings to TAPRES and ultimately the world. The equipment and vehicles would be stored in this TAPRES alliance building/station/headquarters (as such, a runway, extraterrestrial launch platform and docking amenities will need to be built – hence the $50 billion.)

We feel TAPRES is inches from becoming a reality. We would like to meet with Schultaria Prime and Nova Hope in a closed session to work out the ‘kinks.’ However, we want to document the hearings afterwards.

Please comment.

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Exploration DiCE
Commonwealth of Tarqys

Nova Hope and Schultaria Prime,

Tarqys is willing to spend at least $50 billion marillions (equivalent to roughly $45 billion USD) to the construction of a TAPRES alliance building/station/headquarters to be built in the desired location of the members or founding nations. We believe that, while others pledge money, we want to pledge money for a definite purpose to help get TAPRES one step closer to reality.

The money would be used to create/buy:
1) Training facilities for all member nations to send their scientists (a maximum number to be determined and admission requisites to be determined) to learn the standardization methods of TAPRES and to further their studies. Outstanding students - those who contribute to the program - would be able to receive additional TAPRES grant moneys and recognition in the form of TAPRES Scientific Awards - on par with Noble Prizes. The curriculum and focus would change regularly. One curriculum might revolve around plate tectonics and

2) Research facilities. These facilities will be rented out based on participation in TAPRES and a vote by an elected council. Then, the scientists may use state-of-the-art software, hardware and technologies to further the development of findings for TAPRES and ultimately the world. This would be on the level of how some nations rent time in observatories to other nations. Instead, there would be no 'renting,' monetarily speaking, but rather, each nation - depending on the amount of input into the alliance - would be granted a certain amount of years (RL Days) to make use of the facilities. Please note that this research/training facility we envision is not the ONLY research TAPRES scientist are allowed to conduct. They may conduct R&D domestically. However, this provides member nations the chance at using very expensive equipment and a chance at meeting very intellectual individuals from all over the world - both of which are hard for a very small, very poor country to accomplish.

3) Expeditiary equipment, such as off-road vehicles, ocean-going vessels, VTOL vehicles and celestial vehicles, all for the purpose of scientific research. Again, like the research facilities, these vehicles would be 'rented' in the same manner: For example, if Tarqys wanted to conduct an oceanographic study of tides, we would request from an elected council in TAPRES if we could utilize a TAPRES ocean-going vessel for N amount of years (RL days). As part of the agreement, we would be required to report our findings to TAPRES and ultimately the world. The equipment and vehicles would be stored in this TAPRES alliance building/station/headquarters (as such, a runway, extraterrestrial launch platform and docking amenities will need to be built – hence the $50 billion.)

We feel TAPRES is inches from becoming a reality. We would like to meet with Schultaria Prime and Nova Hope in a closed session to work out the ‘kinks.’ However, we want to document the hearings afterwards.

Please comment.

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Exploration DiCE
Commonwealth of Tarqys

ooc: I'm open for this. how do you want to do it another thread? Or a chat room or msn what? As for the funds I meant that we as a group would deciede what to do with them with me having no more say then the other charter members simply because it is my money. An I'm willing to donate a touch more then you are apparently :P

Nova Hope,

We now understand what you meant by the funds - we merely wanted to put some concrete down, so to speak, regarding funds. Too often finance becomes vague. This is good that we would be sharing everything.

$50 billion Marillions is quite a hefty sum. However, we agree that the beginnings of TAPRES should not qualify who will have the most power. We whould attempt equity. However, I feel that those nations that push more funds in should be able to make use, or rent, more of the TAPRES communal equipment. Please comment on this.

As far as meeting is concerned, this could be accomplished by any 'real-time' communication (OOC: I have AIM. We could also do a chatroom). We feel that any decisions - such as the ones discussed in this post - could be more easily rectified in a real-time environment.

We will be watching and waiting,

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Exploration - DiCE
Commonwealth of Tarqys

Ooc: ugh aim…. Ya I suppose I can download it.

IC:

As it stands right now TAPRES will have only three founding members. I believe that this should comprise the Governing Council. While it is only the Governing Council all decisions will need to be taken only when the Governing Council is in agreement. Once we increase our numbers we can hold an election for the president of TAPRES. This could be a person from any member nation. The three systems of government would then be

Governing Council
President
House of Commons (vote from all members.)

This would be the system of checks and balances. An action taken by TAPRES would need the approval from 2 of the three bodies to go ahead.

The Governing Council would of course maintain a veto right if they were unanimously apposed to a motion.

NH,

OOC: I wish not to burden you. Let's find a comprising yet compatible channel by which to speak in real-time.

IC:

Your description of the mechanics of TAPRES sounds perfect. It sounds even better when the 'president' can be any member within the alliance - thus allowing even the lesser nations to make sweeping technological change. We at Tarqys are very excited about the wonderful global technological change this alliance will bring. It sounds much more organized than that Technocracy, described earlier.

Tarqys 'seconds the motion' and we will wait patiently for Schultaria Prime to materialize and voice their opinion on the recent hearings.

Godspeed,

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Exploration - DiCE
Commonwealth of Tarqys

As a note, our Director of Foreign Affairs has recently contacted your nation on behalf of your request for embassy space. Perhaps this move would help the TAPRES alliance?

(I apologize for the absence, I've been a wee little bit busy with school and being sickly. This should be the last week..exams..then summer)

(Also..bump as I review)

BUMP for more international support and a TAG so I can get up to speed on the recent posts.

You might want to get Tarqys chat transcripts we have been doing alot of productive talking about TAPRES

Nova Hope and Schultaria Prime,

Will TAPRES become a reality? We really hope so.

Please, if you wish to contact us more directly about any questions, please do so at our national e-mail account at tarqys@yahoo.com.

We look forward to creating this wonderful agreement/alliance.

Regards,

Verena K Terra
Director of Celestial Investigation
Commonwealth of Tarqys

Medicasia, a new nation, concentrated on medicine and biomedical fields and industries would like to apply to join TAPRES. We are poor in comparison to the founding members but would like to join and offer, in our own small way, something to the Alliance.

Dr Paul Thackeray
Chef de Service of Medicasia

Medicasia, a new nation, concentrated on medicine and biomedical fields and industries would like to apply to join TAPRES. We are poor in comparison to the founding members but would like to join and offer, in our own small way, something to the Alliance.

Dr Paul Thackeray
Chef de Service of Medicasia

Your interest has been noted and as of this date I have queried the other members as to your affiliation status. We will be getting back to you with an answer of some sort asap.