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You have consistantly labled my nation as a terrorist supporter. The time for you to justify these claims is now. Publish your evidence you have gathered that proves I am a full blown terrorist supporter or stop with your claims.

tag, be careful what you ask for

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so when can i expect this damming evidence?

tag.

you get your damn evidence, but on my watch

tag

*Goes to get popcorn*

tag

*Steals some of Praetonia's popcorn*
"Nice!"

OOC:

If you get want you want, will you want what you get?

AKA TAG

TAGGED in action.

you get your damn evidence, but on my watch

you've been gathering it for a week and your online now

-tag-

This should prove interesting...

I wonder when this evidence is posted.

OCC: I would be surpised if any evidence is shown, as you don't have the right to order nations around, I would belive he would release it when he is ready.

He won't release anything since he doesn't have anything to release.

Simple FACT.

He won't release anything since he doesn't have anything to release.

Simple FACT.

OCC: can you prove that Fact?, He doesn't have to say anything unless u attacks some 1 by using them Infomation he will then need to clearly show evidence.

Twister, all his evidence is from OOC and secret IC.

If he had clear IC evidence he could easily post it. It would be a matter of searching through my posts and providing qoutes

http://www.hmso.gov.uk/img/royalarm.gif

Foreign and Commonwealth Ministry - H.M. Austican Government

**PRESS RELEASE**

The United Kingdom has long sat on the side lines of this continuing cold warlike conflict and watched with considerable interest.

It would appear that the Credonia believes it has clear and incontravertable evidence which suggests that Huzan Hagen is a supporter and haven for terrorism and terrorists.

In this war on terrorism, claims will be made, and nations will point at other nations to demonstrate that they are supporters of the evil scurge of terrorism, however we can no longer rely on 'finger pointing' as a method of determining who is guilty and who is not. In short the war on terrorism cannot be used as a means to settle rivalries (It should be noted that Austica is in no way suggesting that this is the case).

The time has come. If we are to believe that Huzan Hagen is a terrorist nation, then evidence must be produced to make a conclusive argument and case. The United Kingdom of Austica stands by its ally and friend, Credonia - and if evidence proves that Huzan Hagen is a terrorist nation, then we will support Credonia in its actions. We cannot, however, offer such support, if it cannot be proven without a shadow of a doubt, that Huzan Hagen is a terrorist nation.

Credonia - we ask you as a friend and an ally to produce the evidence, so that the people of the world can decide the guilt or innocence of Huzan Hagen


Authorised by the Foreign Minister | FCM - HM Government, Mawson

The Republic of Ozymandias IV will monitor this channel in hopes of uncovering terrorist plots against the the Republic and its citizens.

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/ozymandias_iv.jpg (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92022)
Republic of Ozymandias IV

OOC - TAG

you get your damn evidence, but on my watch

you've been gathering it for a week and your online now

no ive been gathering SPECIFIC information via informants, not general information on your terrorist activities

Post the evidence.

Post the evidence.

OCC: you can’t just Demand the Evidence, all nations have a right to gather evidence on who ever they want, if they wish to use it, that’s another matter, so far it hasn't been used in any way. So he doesn't have to show anything.

Oh yes I can

Oh yes I can

OCC: demand it all you want but every nation in the World has the right to protect there information gathered on others, Unless that information was used to start a war or something along these lines, there is no Reason for him to Give out such information.

Oh yes I can

OCC: demand it all you want but every nation in the World has the right to protect there information gathered on others, Unless that information was used to start a war or something along these lines, there is no Reason for him to Give out such information.

OOC: I agree 100% with twist here

Post the evidence.

You'll see it when im ready to show it

OOC: TAGGGGGG

+ If i was Credonia i would ignore you for being so bloody rude and demanding it!

if you were credonia you'd flame me right now. I'm just interested.

Setting: an office in the House of the Calere.

"So," said Damog Atenkruf, the Fure Calere, "Credonia is claiming to have this evidence, but hasn't shown it yet."

"That's right," answered Michael Robertson, the Calere Onus. "Huzen Hagen is demanding the evidence be made public. Credonia is taking its time, though."

"And H.H. is getting more and more agitated, and I supposed Holy Panooly is as well."

"I see you've read this script before," said the C.O. with a bit of a wry smile.

"Yes, I suppose I have." The dark-skinned head of state took off his glasses and wiped them with a handkerchief, as was his habit when his mind he was thinking in depth. "Have we any evidence that Huzen Hagen is supporting terrorist activities?"

"No, we don't. Then again, H.H. hasn't been designated a priority by our intelligence."

"Make it. Make sure Linda keeps and eye on the situation as well, and both of you keep me posted."

"Certainly."

Frankly, the Five Civilized Nations doesn't give a damn about what and why the nation of Credonia labels another nation... Credonia has proven to be a detriment to the safety of our world and should be censured for its aggressive, insensitive, and insidious actions...

http://www.qicartoon.com/images/zhuzibaijia/xunzi.jpg

Shi Jin
5CN Foreign Minister
Lord of Wuxun

Personally, I completely agree with 5CN here... I don't care for either side, but both sides are a threat to peace. That's my 2 cents..

The Kingdom of Austica respects Credonia's decision to protect its intelligence gathering. We do need to see evidence before action is taken, however we are propared to wait for such evidence

Foreign Ministry

So. Hey let me get this straight! Credonia I respect you for keeping your infomation a secret but atleast give him a little evidence but not hard evidence just him anough to get by on.... O.k

Thanks...
L.Psychosis..

He can't give it because there isn't.

OOC: HP, let's give him the benefit of the doubt; he has it, but just hasn't shown it.
Until we see it though, I, for one, think that HH should be "innocent until proven guilty".
But I do think that Credonia should spill the beans; if you don't show real evidence, than the accusations against HH come under the heading of either "slander" or "defamation".

OOC: There is no evidence, thats fact :wink: . HH only works with a select few, and that select few has never openly admitted to working with HH - And neither has HH...infact, HH has probably never mentioned their names in a post IC :)

Case closed.

you wont be able to find IC evidence of anything other than moral support maybe. im too good for anything else

To creddy-
HH, my trusting and ever freindly allie, IS NOT A TERRORIST NATION.

To HH-
I'm with you to the end.

To creddy-
HH, my trusting and ever freindly allie, IS NOT A TERRORIST NATION.

To HH-
I'm with you to the end.

TAJ wishes to monitor the evidence of terrists in the area, and will stomp out any such actions with brutish force.
"sit down and shut up"
TAG

Listen I know Credonia personally and the bottom line is that everyone here has set the bottom line and discussing anything more, I.E. stating your own personal opinion is not necessary and frankly no one cares.

I Will support Huzen Hagen until Evidence is given.

The Kingdom of Xeraph is well known for it's stance against terorism. Credonia, we will stand with you IF you can provide the evidence whereof you speak. But please do not make your friends and allies look foolish if this evidence is either false or masked as a personal vendetta.

respectfully,

Alaric of Xeraph

Unsupported claims only cause the international community to look down upon your nation. Please revise your statement or provide evidence.

ooc: NOT a tag! heheh...

wait...

crap...

The reason Creddy isnt showing his evidence is because his evidence is gathered from getting into HH's account - something you can be banned for I think.

Well unless he's obtained it by fair and legal reasons, he can't use it to take any action, and any action he does take will remain an unjustified act - and just *saying* you have evidence and not providing it just isnt good enough.

Therefore information obtained through illegal means is as useful as no information at all. So I don't see what Huzen Hagen has to worry about - any nation worth it's salt and capable of thinking for itself (i.e. almost all nations capable of threatening him) won't ask 'how high' just because Credonia asks them to jump against HH.

As for my stance, I'll stand with HH unless fair evidence is presented - which seems to be the resounding opinion so far :P

We are becoming interested in this age-old feud between HH, HP, and the Empire of Credonia.
We are conisdering authorizing covert operations against him, purely to see what kind of response w would recueved if we were to do so.
However, now that we have told you, we have decided not to. But we may be forced into authroizing other actions, should it become necessary.

We are becoming interested in this age-old feud between HH, HP, and the Empire of Credonia.
We are conisdering authorizing covert operations against him, purely to see what kind of response w would recueved if we were to do so.
However, now that we have told you, we have decided not to. But we may be forced into authroizing other actions, should it become necessary.

against me? the retailiation wouldnt be pretty

you get your damn evidence, but on my watch

When is your watch, Credonia? I have no idea who is right or wrong in this, but what I do know is that people will not take you seriously if you dont do what you said you would.

Credonia, the Kingdom of Austica must insist that if we are to assist you and continue to provide some support - that you show us some evidence to work with

By His Majesty's Command

Sir John Grey
Prime Minister

*Tag*...this is going to be fun :twisted:

Does anyone else have any evidence supporting Credonia's claims? I for one am on a crusade against terroism in my nation and wish to cut down particularly on blackmarkets located in my nation.

If so please bring it before this international tribunal.

OOC: O dear, thought we might have gotten over this!

The reason Creddy isnt showing his evidence is because his evidence is gathered from getting into HH's account - something you can be banned for I think.

oh shut up...you really think i'll hack into HH's account. Besides, what would that prove?? And how would it look if i were acually caught.

By the way, I'll drop all claims that will bring shame upon HH/HLF if he would attend that conference I called between our representatives (yes there is evidence but before i show it, i want to take a stab at diplomacy first, if things go sour, then i will have no choice but to show evidence. That is what i have been waiting on. As for HP, he doenst matter, hes quitting NS.

That conference is about reperations for the HLF/Credonia war, i have no business there and will not attend.

ooc: Would etheir Credonia or HH be interested in RPing out a special information gathering team being sent into their nation?
The purpose of which would be so that we could make our decison on said events. However any information gathered would be secret to any I didn't disclose it to. (There is also a good chance that if I get greedy my men will get caught.)

I dunno I'm just looking for a good RP and both of you guys, despite your differences of opinion, are good RPers. Interested? TG me and we can work out details. If not tell me no here so I'm not waiting for a TG.

That conference is about reperations for the HLF/Credonia war, i have no business there and will not attend.


No, its about patching up relations with HH as well, thats why i invited BOTH HH and HLF

That conference is about reperations for the HLF/Credonia war, i have no business there and will not attend.


No, its about patching up relations with HH as well, thats why i invited BOTH HH and HLF

I still will not attend as there are rumours you have ordered the assasination of our Emperor and were behind the SD bombings

The reason Creddy isnt showing his evidence is because his evidence is gathered from getting into HH's account - something you can be banned for I think.

OOC: You can't hack NS accounts.

I don't think Credonia has any evidence.

This is an interesting thread. I think I'll keep an eye on this one...

I think your right. Credonia is just waiting for Huzen Hagen to do something wong that he/she might think is terrorist and write 5 paragraphs about it. To the amazement to us all :roll: