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The Ali'Staan Accord



1. Non-Aggression
No members of the Accord will commit aggression against a member of the Accord.

Free Trade
2. All Members of the Accord will remove tariffs on goods produced by the Accord.

3. Military Equipment Trade

a) All Members of the Accord will agree to have a 10% discount on sale of military products to Accord Members.

b)Members of the Accord agree to share military technology, I.E., every Accord nation may manufacture (but not sell) weapons made by other Accord nations.

c)Article 3b is not obligatory, however, those who refuse to sign it will not benefit from it either.

4. Rapid Deployment Force

The Accord will maintain a common fund, to which each nation will contribute the equivalent of one billion dollars per year.
This money will be used to create a common Rapid Deployment Force for the protection of the members of the Accord.
Every nation will also contribute 10,000 troops to the RDF.

5. Figures of Power
The Accord will appoint a President, a Foreign Affairs Advisor, and a Military Affair Advisor.

6. Creation of a Propaganda Board
The Accord will have a propaganda board, designed to promote the viewpoint of the Accord on current affairs

7. Powers of the President

a)The President of the Accord will have the power to authorize deployment of the RDF

b)The President of the Accord will have the power to authorize alliances with other international groups.

c)The President of the Accord will have the power to command the RDF. However, in case he is not available, the Military Affairs Advisor shall command the RDF

d)The President of the Accord will have the power to appoint the Advisors.

8. Voting

a)The President will be voted for every 4 years.

9.Powers of the Military Advisor

a)The Military Advisor of the Accord will have the power to command the RDF in situations were the President is inavailable.

b)The Military Advisor will make a common standard for military technology.

10. Powers of the Foreign Advisor

a)The Foreign Advisor will set the tariff rate against foreign products on a per-nation basis. If the tariff on a nation's goods is undecided by him, individual Accord members may decide it.

b)The Foreign Advisor will be in charge of the Accord's economic warfare operations

c)The Foreign Advisor will warn the Accord and it's President of possible threats to Accord Security.

11. Mutual Aid
All nations of the Accord will aid each other in case it becomes a victim of aggression or in case of natural disaster.

12.Flag of the Accord
A flag of the Accord, to be used on all RDF vessels and units will be agreed upon.

Current Members:

Accord President: Allanea
Accord War Minister: FluffyWuffy
Accord Foreign Minister: Silver Turtle

Other members:
Phyrric
Greece and Cyprus

Accord is not a conservative, liberal, or communit alliance. It's a mutual benefit alliance.

Doujin would be interested, however Article 3, Section B forces us to pass up this alliance.


b)Members of the Accord agree to share military technology, I.E., every Accord nation may manufacture (but not sell) weapons made by other Accord nations.


We simply cannot say "Yes, you can manufacture our military technology."

Emperor Miller,
Empire of Doujin

We would like to point out that the empire of Doujine may rest assured that ,under the accord, any Technology manufactured in the Accord will be used to Doujin's defense, and that, further, when it signs up, it will gain access to the tech of many nations, and not one, who already signed.

Alexander Kazansky,
Allanean President-for-Life
President of the Accord.

GM must politely reject this accord for the same basis at Doujin. We are not willing to give equipment that we spent years and billions developing away so freely to other nations, regardless of whether they are allies or not. Not only does this greatly enhance the possibility of our own weapons being used against us, but it floods the market and therefore reduces are ability to contribute the Great Matean budget via GMIndustries.

-Teo McGrath, President, The Armed Dominon of Great Mateo

"The article, as it was designed, is not intended for the purpose of stealing other nation's weapons; it is for the common good of all involved in the Accord, a boost in defense to all involved, and a great forum for military ideas. It does not mean the manufacture of military weapons for free, no, the weapons must still be paid for, with royalty fees going to the allied government.

But if one thought about it, would not he benefit from having access to all others' technology, at the cost only of his own? For the cost of billions in ones own tech, one would be making maybe even trillions in the research of others, making a positive net shift.

And technologes are not expressly intended for individual use-though still allowed, frowned upon-but for use in the development of the official tank, official plane, official ship, to be used by the Accord's Rapid Deployment Force, and by all in the Accord if they so choose. And these designs are safe, not being for sale as it is not expressly one nation's technology, but all of ours, and thus one can not sell it without the entire Accord agreeing.

I hope this clarifys things for those that would join, but have been disuaded by our technology forum."

Supreme Allied Commander Miker Woley
Military Advisor of the Ali'Staan Accord

Doujin is not interested in the technology of another nation. We enjoy using the technology designed by Doujinshi Corporation and incorporated into our military. We also enjoy the vast superiorness of our Naval ships, and do not wish any other nation to have the ability to produce them, either for themselves or for open trade. Doujinshi Corporation is a business, and all weapons, tanks, planes, and ships sold to the Doujin Empire are just that, sold. We do not say "gives us, the Empire, production rights so we can produce them ourselves at the Navy military shipyards."

Furthermore, Doujin does not want people running around with 1 kilometer long ships designed to be the pride of our Navy. We will also limit sales of those to nations, a maximum of 3.

Emperor Maxwell Miller,
Empire of Doujin

President Anderson after talks with Flufflywuffy and Phyrric has decided to bring the United States of Independent Hitmen into this new alliance, if it is accepted that is.

One question in regard to the part specifying "All nations of the Accord will aid each other in case it becomes a victim of aggression or in case of natural disaster."

Would this include the current war you have started against Edolia in order to take Axackel. Would that count you as a "victim of aggression" or do you intend to twist the facts on a war you instigated.

I feel this is important seeing as members may be dragged into your landgrab which I can't see many of them agreeing with.

Didn't you also kick Greece and Cyprus out of the alliance in a earlier thread?

It is absolutely amazing to see nations putting their defence forces in Allanea's hands. According to the accord stated above the President (Allanea) is responsible for deploying the alliances military forces.

Do the other accord members know that a.) Allanea is currently losing a war , b.) Allanea has declared war on it's neighbors. c.) Allanea has invaded it's neighbors (SEVERAL times) d.) Allanea has used nuclear weapons on the battlefield killing it's own and allied forces. Is this a nation you want your forces led by? Allanea has used 'human wave' attacks of children of 16 years of age, prisoners and other illegal combatants. Allanea has lost over a million of it's troops in these suicidal attacks.

Ilek-Vaad once supported Allanean forces and we were paid back by having 60,000 of our Retliatory Guard killed by Allanean nuclear weapons WHILE WE WERE IN THE FIELD SUPPORTING ALLANEA. Allanea used these weapons even though combined Allanea,Edolian and Ilek-Vaad Forces were winning. Allanea deployed these weapons without consultation of it's allies and detonated them in the midst of their own forces and the forces of their allies. Is this a risk that you are willing to take?

How any rational nation can ally itself with such an irresponsible dictatorship is beyond all reason. It stands to reason that Allanea with it's history of starting conflict and betraying it's allies that they will only continue to do the same in the future. The list of nations on this accord is simply a list of nations that Allanea will use for it's own ends and then betray.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

A Hello to all:
The Federation of Morathania would like to suggest something. To appease certain nations that feel that sharing military technology would be hazardous to their national security and a waste of the money they spent in building their weapons. I say you add a provision to the charter that says that sharing of military technology is not mandatory and that any nation in the Accord could secretly develop weapons for their nation if they are not used against other accord members. I think this would allow nations that want to share and aquire military hardware from others to be able to do that and nations that want to keep their technology cloaked in secrecy can also. I hope this solves that problem.

I would also like the Accord to consider for entry the Federation of Morathania. We are a small nation with compulsory military service that has a history of free and open elections and a superb economy. Thank you very much.

Hubert Gregory
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Federation of Morathania

It is absolutely amazing to see nations putting their defence forces in Allanea's hands. According to the accord stated above the President (Allanea) is responsible for deploying the alliances military forces.

Do the other accord members know that a.) Allanea is currently losing a war , b.) Allanea has declared war on it's neighbors. c.) Allanea has invaded it's neighbors (SEVERAL times) d.) Allanea has used nuclear weapons on the battlefield killing it's own and allied forces. Is this a nation you want your forces led by? Allanea has used 'human wave' attacks of children of 16 years of age, prisoners and other illegal combatants. Allanea has lost over a million of it's troops in these suicidal attacks.

Ilek-Vaad once supported Allanean forces and we were paid back by having 60,000 of our Retliatory Guard killed by Allanean nuclear weapons WHILE WE WERE IN THE FIELD SUPPORTING ALLANEA. Allanea used these weapons even though combined Allanea,Edolian and Ilek-Vaad Forces were winning. Allanea deployed these weapons without consultation of it's allies and detonated them in the midst of their own forces and the forces of their allies. Is this a risk that you are willing to take?

How any rational nation can ally itself with such an irresponsible dictatorship is beyond all reason. It stands to reason that Allanea with it's history of starting conflict and betraying it's allies that they will only continue to do the same in the future. The list of nations on this accord is simply a list of nations that Allanea will use for it's own ends and then betray.

Minister of Foreign Affairs, Ilek-Vaad

OOC: Ok, first off - don't flat out lie like that, Ilek-Vaad. That fits mostly the description of Phyrric, not Allanea.

Let's try and stick to the facts.
1.) Allanea is currently winning a war.
2.) Allanea declared war on Edolia to retrieve a province it was forced to sign over to Edolia from a previous war.
3.) Allanea has invaded his neighbors in the past.
4.) Allanea has not used nuclear weapons on the battlefield(to my knowledge).
5.) Allanea made prisoners in their prison systems free, and as such they fought for their country. Grabbing any weapon they could, they massed the front.
6.) No children "16 years of age" or at all were of these prisoners.
7.) Ilek-Vaad has never supported Allanean forces.
8.) Ilek-Vaad left the UnAPS alliance, and has such threatened to initiate fighting with any nation of UnAPS or any other nation in region who is currently fighting other forces in the region (Haven).

I would call that betrayal of ones allies if I ever saw it.

I am very disappointed in you, Ilek-Vaad.

This post is written in OOC fashion but can be considered IC if you wish.

The Great Matean government is of the same opinion as Doujin. The GM military machine is completely self sufficient through the production of equipment by Great Matean Industries. We have a wide variety of systems available to us already, and believe our self designed systems to be superior to their foreign equivalents. Thus, GM does not gain from this weapons agreement; we only lose as more nations join this alliance and our tech becomes available to an evergrowing pool of nations and we get virtually nothing in return. Not only does this go against the long standing tradition of keeping the design rights of GM tech GM property alone, it leads to the loss of prestige that comes with being the only nation to operate a superior military system, and cuts our potential sales market down. Standing by our previous statement, we cannot enter this accord as long as the current weapons provision stands.

-Teo McGrath, President, Armed Dominion of Great Mateo

4.) Allanea has not used nuclear weapons on the battlefield(to my knowledge).

Actually, he has on numberous occasions, for example the use of Nuclear Depth Charges and Nuclear Anti Air.

5.) Allanea made prisoners in their prison systems free, and as such they fought for their country. Grabbing any weapon they could, they massed the front.

If you read the RP he fired into them to force march them... the idea that 3 million prisoners would agree to make a suicide charge is a joke.

As for Ilek Vaad's support for Allanea, you may actually want to look into that, I don't think he was refering to the current Allanea vs. UnAPS war. It's an old incident in which Allanea used a nuclear weapon and took out some of Ilek Vaad's troops, thus breaking their relationship... this is of course only from what I remember being told, I don't actually have the proof to back this paragraph up.


This has been a post which is as IC as Doujin's was, which means somewhere in between you may know about it or you may not.

Further looking into it, he has on the Battlefield, on one occasion (Nuclear anti-air is understandable, as is nuclear depth charges[to an extent]). In the Yurkan Civil War, which is also where Ilek-Vaad was referencing too. If you read the RP he didn't, and suicide is better than imprisonment. Even Edolia agrees with me on 5.).

Proof for that paragraph could be found in the Yurkan Civil War. But then again, everyone has done detestable things. Look at Phyrric, he did the same as Allanea and I would still trust him.

Hm... I did read the RP and I remember (he edited it a few times but I'm sure he didn't change that part) that he killed at least a couple thousand of them who tried to retreat... 3 million volunteers? You buy that crap? If it wasn't for the fact Edolia accepted it I would ignore it outright.

Meanwhile I find the idea of Nuclear Depth charges disgusting no matter what the yield. They are a great way to destroy ocean wildlife and spread radiation for miles.

As for Phyrric, I ignore him, 'nuf said. The bastard even tried emotional blackmail when I wouldn't punish Unum Viritas (sp) for supporting Dark Terror once... I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him.

Looks like a nice alliance. We're not able to sign on at this time-the Isolationist Party just picked up five seats in the Assembly, and ratifying another Treaty isn't going to happen anytime soon.
We're going to grimly hold on to our alliances with USIH and Phyrric, however-they can't overturn those with simple majorities.

OOC: Correction to the several mistakes Doujin made when 'correcting my post.

1.) Allanea has over a million casaulties already in his against Edolia
simply read and and add the numbers from these threads:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138193&highlight=

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138154&highlight=

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3082935#3082935

2) Allanea lost the province they are attempting to retrieve after their SECOND invasion of Edolia, yes, Allanea has invaded Edolia at least three times that I know of.

3) we agree

4)Here is the Edolian invasion of Zenti (Augnista slave ware spinoff) thread where Allanea did indeed use nuclear weapons, on the battle field:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93678&highlight=

5) in the Allanea invasion of Axackal thread, if you actually read it you will read about Allanea's use of 3 million convicts with bayonets on sticks. Seriously, he posted it, several times.

6) Here on the Axackal front Allanea clearly posts that BOYSCOUTS in BUSES are being sent to the front:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3082935#3082935

Later in the same thread he RP's one of his 16 yo boyscouts dying and calling for mommy.

7)Once again the Zenti war thread in which Allanea, Edolia AND Ilek-Vaad invaded Yurka and Zenti:

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=93678&highlight=

8)That is correct Ilek-Vaad has left the UnAPS and we have not only threatened to stop the idiots on ALL sides from fighting, we are in the process of doing it.

Now, are there any questions?

Some corrections to Ilek Vaad's post


If you read the RP he fired into them to force march them... the idea that 3 million prisoners would agree to make a suicide charge is a joke

The criminals in question agreed that, if they fought for Allanea, the survivors would be freed and paid 15,000 bucks each. Those who vioated that agreement were shot - for violating an agreement and betraying their Homeland.

Here on the Axackal front Allanea clearly posts that BOYSCOUTS in BUSES atre being sent to the front:


Under current Allanean law 16-yo is an adult.

Allanea has yet to use a WMD in the current coflict. The only people to use WMD in this conflict are Phyrric (against Allanea), Austar Union (attempted VX gas against allanea), Yurka (against allanea).

OOC: all of the above corrections by Allanea are correct.

But it still supports the fact that Allanea is using criminals and what most other nations would call children. I also never said that Allanea used WMD's in this current conflict, and they have not.

OOC: In many RL nations, 16 year old is considered an adult. Hell, in many States, you can be tried as an adult in criminal court at the age of 16.

OOC: Edolia acknowledged only one previous attack to me. And until I re-entered the war to take out the Yasmaran Fleet, UnAPS and company were behind, with regards to Allanea having more allies in number and in age(power).

OOC: Edolia acknowledged only one previous attack to me. And until I re-entered the war to take out the Yasmaran Fleet, UnAPS and company were behind, with regards to Allanea having more allies in number and in age(power).

But it still supports the fact that Allanea is using criminals and what most other nations would call children. I also never said that Allanea used WMD's in this current conflict, and they have not.

Under current (NS) UN law, 16 is the legal limit for enrolling people into armies.