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Spy Sattelites spotted over Redmire

Redmire
02-05-2004, 03:48
Smith: Today we recieved a number of calls on a unidentified object over the skies, upn further inspection it was revealed to be a spy sattelite, you have 24 hours to remove that sattelite out of redmire airspace or it will be shot down.
Austantopia
02-05-2004, 03:56
Who's spy satellite is it?
Redmire
02-05-2004, 03:58
Its not marked thats the mystery, well since its not marked we decided to shoot it down.
Kotterdam
02-05-2004, 04:01
The Dominion will neither confirm nor deny the positions of any of our satelite intelligence assets. We will, however, state categorically that an attack against such an asset will be taken as the aggressive act that it is. Furthermore, the Dominion does not recognize any nation's claim to the extra-atmospheric region above their territory, and will view any attack on our orbital assets as the same as attacking a ship in international waters.
Fluffywuffy
02-05-2004, 04:03
In keeping with the proliferation of propaganda, the Imperial response is this:

http://www.stewarts.net/zac/propaganda5.jpg
Iuthia
02-05-2004, 04:19
In keeping with the proliferation of propaganda, the Imperial response is this [insert poor propergander bandwidth waste here]

OOC: You are aware that this is spam, nothing more then spam. I would suggest you keep these posters to relevant threads before someone gets anoyed at this crap... a jokes a joke but this is the sort of thing which doesn't go down well.
Noitan Teppup
02-05-2004, 04:39
Satellite Overflights
There are dozens- if not scores or hundreds- of nations with modern space technology in the game. Each one of these puts several dozen satellites of various types into a wide variety of orbital paths. We’ll pull a bunch of numbers out of the air and say that there are fifty nations with satellites in orbit (using only real-world technology). If each such nation puts up 5 reconnaissance satellites (a reasonably small number, since the USA has a large- but classified- number of advanced spy satellites). That makes 250 satellites. Each one also has 10 communications satellites (far too small a number), for an additional 500 satellites. We’ll also assume each nation has 5 weather satellites (another 250 birds). With these extremely rough numbers, we have over 1000 satellites in orbit. I haven’t even mentioned the GPS satellites, dedicated cell-phone satellites, orbital observatories, et cetera.

A lot of these birds will be in polar orbits. The satellite travels over both poles as the planet rotates beneath them. This allows the satellites to cover the entire planet over time. Other satellites will be in orbits that go slightly north and slightly south of the equator, thoroughly covering the terrain between their northern and southern maximum latitudes. Other satellites will be in geosynchronous orbits (at around 36,000 kilometers, the orbital speed matches the Earth’s rotation, so the satellite stays over the same portion of the Earth’s surface). Most of these will be observing the entire hemisphere that faces them.

Because of these facts, every nation may be reasonably certain that there are satellites flying over their territory at least once/day. Most rational nations agree that their national territorial claims end at the earth’s stratosphere, but I won’t get into International Laws here.


This quote was taken from this thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68977&highlight=) which is titled "Spacetech: Orbital Mechanics"

It covers pretty much everything you will need to know about satellites and how to take them down... but you will also find that there are many satallites crossing over your nation at anyone time... including spy satallites (though no one will admit to it).

Most nations, including myself, don't think of the space above your nation as anyone territory, seeing as it is impossible to leave my satallites above my nation alone (due to physics, I'm not close enough to the equator to have that sort of orbit on my satallites). So they have to use a polar orbit,

I'm not going to waste fuel on moving around a certain part of space because that reduces the satallites life span by alot and will cost me (and everyone else who has to move) billions of dollars...

So I would suggest you look into what you are demanding more thoroughly, unless this thing is in a geosynchronous orbit (stays above your nation) over your nation (assuming your nation is near the equator)then it will move likely move along on it's own anyways only to pass over again in a couple of days...

Nice idea though.
The Evil Overlord
02-05-2004, 19:04
<OOC>
This link shows why this thread is based on a total lack of understanding of how satellites operate.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68977&highlight=
</OOC>

Despite your self-professed lack of knowledge on such matters, the Dominion's policy has always been that any attack on Evil Overlord Enterprises assets anywhere is an act of war.

In the unlikely event that Redmire has the capability to attack any part of the vast EOE satellite array and carries out such an attack, the Dominion will reduce Redmire to a desert wasteland. We shall leave no stones atop one another, no two boards nailed together, and no living thing shall remain- not the rats in the walls, the roaches in the sewers, the crops in the fields, or the very grass around your homes. Redmire shall become solely a dim memory in the dusty tomes of esoteric researchers of history.

Ignore this warning at your peril.

Eternal Arch-Villain Psychopompos
Minister for Pre-Subjugation External Affairs