NationStates Jolt Archive


Diplomatic relations restored

01-05-2004, 14:53
The AZA will be renamed GNA and will protect any Greek nations which come under attack due to our recent negotiations with IDF.
Muktar
01-05-2004, 14:57
You may as well be making a military alliance against unicorns. NS has yet to see zionist terror groups of any kind.
Jeruselem
01-05-2004, 15:19
We oppose any alliance with espouses Nazi sentiments towards our Jewish population in other nations and ourselves. As for this "Zionist terrorism" accusation against the Jewish peoples, it is only an excuse for violence against them.
Diminix
01-05-2004, 15:20
You may as well be making a military alliance against unicorns.



Not a bad idea :P
IDF
01-05-2004, 15:26
WE warn the Greece and Cyprus that if they do not stop demands for this alliance in 3 hours, we will go to war with you. We are much larger and can take you over in a few days. Don't test our Resolve.

Signed,

President Teeman
01-05-2004, 16:21
The Greek people will not stand idly by while the forces of the IDF continue to provoke violence and threaten smaller countries.
This is not an anti-jewish sentiment (as the neo-cons would have you believe) simply a sentiment that states that nations who allign themselves with the belief of zionism and a state for the Jewish people and the violence that it inevitably brings will face the full force of the AZA.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:22
I tell you to cease now. You have 2 hours. You have 7 million people and I have almost 200 million. DON'T TEST ME!!!!
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:23
To show my resolve, we are sending the 4th fleet to the Eastern Med.

1st CVBG
1 Enterprise CVN
2 Tico CG
2 Burke DDG
4 Farragut DDG
1 perry
2 supply ships
2 Galaxy SSN

1st SAG
1 Iowa BB
3 Farragut
2 Ticonderoga CG
1 Burke
1 Kidd
1 perry
1 supply ship

2nd SAG
2 Iowa
5 Farragut
1 Perry
1 Spruance
1 supply

1st Sub group SSNs
3 Galaxy
1 Seawolf
1 688i

2nd Sub group SSNs
2 Galaxy
2 Seawolf
1 Virginia

1st resupply group
3 supply ships
2 farragut
2 Burke
1 Ticonderoga
3 perry

2nd resupply
same makeup



planes to be sent to

96 F-15E
60 F-15C
144 F-16C
60 F-14D
72 F/A-18E
18 B-1B Lancers
24 B-52G
10 B-2A Spirit
12 F-117
12 F/A-22

48 AH-64 Apache
24 RAH-66Comanche
Praetonia
01-05-2004, 16:25
OOC: As someone already pointed out, there is no Zionist terror in NS. This alliance is meaningless, ignoring the (probably unintentional) offence you have caused.
01-05-2004, 16:26
To show MY resolve we are preparing deploying our 1st and 2nd armored divisions along the coast.

We will also be putting our airbourne forces on full alert.
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:26
Greece and cyprus, i suggest you scrap your so called "alliance", you are making a very big mistake of messing with IDF a 200mil population, and an even bigger mistake if youre going to mess with me.
01-05-2004, 16:28
The greek people will not stand for any more of this Zionist antagonism. We will be preparing terrorist means of attack to hamper any Zionist invasion of our beloved Cyprus if our armed forces fail to stop the Zionist barabarians.
Turetel
01-05-2004, 16:28
Greece and Cyprus, I am sure that you feel strongly a bout this, but can you please back-down, the region will not in my opinion support this act or war and I am sure the one who recruited you into our region, New Cyprus won't be please either.
Fluffywuffy
01-05-2004, 16:30
Since I, in some circles, have rights for an independant (mostly anyways) Israel, you may want to withdraw your threats at this time.
Luciferius
01-05-2004, 16:30
As much as I hate to seem uniformed...What is Zionism or a Zionist exactly?
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:31
The USS Porter, an Arleigh Burke class DDG launched a TLAM that would overfly the capitol city of Greece and Cyprus, it would turn and fly over other major cities and then head to the ocean and crash. It contained no warhead and was sent as a warning.
01-05-2004, 16:31
Then Greece and Cyprus will stand alone, bravely defending our homeland unless the Zionist aggressors agree to remove the 4th Fleet from the Med. Then we will order our armored division to pull back from the coast.
Fluffywuffy
01-05-2004, 16:31
Zionism/Zionists want to create a Jewish state.
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:32
[quote]We will be preparing terrorist means of attack to hamper any Zionist invasion[quote]

So who are the terrorists now ?, and you are already making alot of power enimies already, at a very young age, so i once again suggest you scrap your alliance and be quiet. I am not going to attack you, (yet) but ill be keeping an eye out.

- wwa

New Jewish Alliance
Daylam
01-05-2004, 16:32
IDF, I am twice your size. Back down. If any of your pathetic nations or allies are attacked by this AZA, then you might have a right to attack him. As of now, you dont. Back down.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:32
your armored division would die with my TLAMs launched, but you can remove your demands for this alliance and I will leave you in peace.
Jeruselem
01-05-2004, 16:33
As much as I hate to seem uniformed...What is Zionism or a Zionist exactly?

OOC If you really want to know (source www.newadvent.org)

Zionists
Zionists are followers of the movement to segregate the Jewish people as a nation and to give it a national home either in Palestine or elsewhere. Orthodox Judaism holds to a Zionism pure and simple, the return of the Jews to Palestine, the coming of the Messias, the overthrow of hostile powers by Him, the restoration of the Temple and its worship, the Messianic reign. The Reformed Jews reject this idea of a return to Zion. The conference of rabbis, at Frankfort-on-the-Main, 15-28 July, 1845, deleted from the ritual all prayers for a return to Zion and a restoration of a Jewish state. The Philadelphia conference, 1869, followed the lead of the German rabbis and decreed that the Messianic hope of Israel is "the union of all the children of God in the confession of the unity of God". The Pittsburg conference, 1885, reiterated this Messianic idea of reformed Judaism.

The practical carrying out of Zionism by orthodox Jews has until recently been attempted only fitfully and very ineffectually, and often with no return to Zion as an objective. In the middle of the sixteenth century Joseph Nasi tried to gather the Portuguese Jews to an island owned by the Republic of Venice. In the seventeenth century Shabbethai Zebi (1626-1676) announced himself as the Messias and gained over many Jews to his side; among these, the philosopher Baruch Spinoza. Jewish settlements were established in the upper Mississippi region by W.D. Robinson, 1819; near Jerusalem, by the American Consul Warder Cresson, a convert to Judaism, 1850; in Prague, by Steinschneider, 1835; and elsewhere. Sir Moses Montefiore tried to colonize Jews in Palestine (1840). Laurence Oliphant failed in a like attempt to bring to Palestine the Jewish proletariat of Poland, Lithuania, Rumania, and the Turkish Empire (1879 and 1882). The man who gave dignity, form, and permanence to the Zionist movement was Theodor Harzl. In 1896 his "Jüdenstaat" appeared in Vienna. He soon won over such Jewish leaders as Israel Zangwill, Max Nordau, Alexander Marmorek, and others. The ideas of "Jüdenstaat" spread throughout the Jewish world. Six successive Zion congresses were held. By 1899 there were more than 100,000 shekel-payers. The Sultan of Turkey removed the ban whereby Jews had been prevented from staying longer than three months in Palestine. The now flourishing colony of Mikweh Israel was established near Jaffa. All attempts failed to get from the sultan for the Jews in Palestine any kind of corporate political existence, and any form of provincial or municipal autonomy. Harzl died on 3 July, 1904. At the next, the seventh, Zionist congress, Max Nordau was elected president (1905). Since then the movement has gone on and has remained true to the first, or Basle, congress platform of Jewish autonomy in the new Jewish state.
01-05-2004, 16:33
Your talk of a new jewish alliance is inflamatory and i suggest that all military naval forces should be removed from Med. waters.

I will then, as I have said, pull back myself.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:34
IDF, I am twice your size. Back down. If any of your pathetic nations or allies are attacked by this AZA, then you might have a right to attack him. As of now, you dont. Back down.

Sorry, but you are standing alone with Greece and Cyprus. There are many more billion pop nations now supporting the Zionist against this nation. I urge you to back down since others may fire on you. I won't fire unless my demands aren't met.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:35
Your talk of a new jewish alliance is inflamatory and i suggest that all military naval forces should be removed from Med. waters.

I will then, as I have said, pull back myself.

I don't care if you pull back your forces, but I do care that you withdraw this alliance.
Daylam
01-05-2004, 16:35
IDF, as I said, you had better back down. I am twice your size and invading a nation for suggesting an alliance is not acceptable. Perhaps if the AZA invaded you might be justified. You are not.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:36
IDF, as I said, you had better back down. I am twice your size and invading a nation for suggesting an alliance is not acceptable. Perhaps if the AZA invaded you might be justified. You are not.

Uh, he suggested terrorism to be used. Other nations agree that this is an act of war by Greece and Cyprus.
01-05-2004, 16:36
My demands are simple, remove your 1st fleet from my waters and then I will reforces from the coast. I will also order airbourne forces to come off of high alert status.
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:37
Greece and cyprus, i will not send any forces into your area, not because im worried about the AZA or anything else, because i cannot be bothered to fight ignorance at the moment.
Now i suggest you and your "alliance" leave me and all my allies alone, before you thourghly regret it.

- wwa

NJA
Fluffywuffy
01-05-2004, 16:37
Exactly where are you in the region? You arent in Israel, as you would already have been shot at, me being in a time of war already, so you must be elsewhere.

And the NJA, which I am an ally/member of, was founded a while a go.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:37
My demands are simple, remove your 1st fleet from my waters and then I will reforces from the coast. I will also order airbourne forces to come off of high alert status.

It isn't your forces I care about, you have a right to put them where you want internally, but I want you to cancel the alliance, then I will leave.
01-05-2004, 16:37
And the AZA will be renamed to GNA Greek Nations alliance, we will change our stated aims to the protection of any Greek nation that comes under attack, this is reasonable.
01-05-2004, 16:38
All 14 million of eastrives citizens march unarmed into the capital of greece and cyprus and sit down. You really wouldn't want to kill all of those innocent people would you........
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:39
And the AZA will be renamed to GNA Greek Nations alliance, we will change our stated aims to the protection of any Greek nation that comes under attack, this is reasonable.

Thank you, our fleet is now leaving the eastern med to head out to the North Atlantic
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:39
IDF, as I said, you had better back down. I am twice your size and invading a nation for suggesting an alliance is not acceptable. Perhaps if the AZA invaded you might be justified. You are not.

Daylam i understand your protecting of g&c, but alliances and nations like this cannot be tolerated. IDF as much as much as i am on your side, maybe you should pull back so we can communicate to g&c in a more diplomatic way.
Daylam
01-05-2004, 16:41
I didnt see anything wrong with the name being AZA. It is a purely defensive 'alliance' (despite having one member) and as such it is his right to form one. It is unlawful to invade a nation for proposing a defensive alliance. You will cease from threatening G and C, or I will defend him.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:41
IDF, as I said, you had better back down. I am twice your size and invading a nation for suggesting an alliance is not acceptable. Perhaps if the AZA invaded you might be justified. You are not.

Daylam i understand your protecting of g&c, but alliances and nations like this cannot be tolerated. IDF as much as much as i am on your side, maybe you should pull back so we can communicate to g&c in a more diplomatic way.
already done
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:41
And the AZA will be renamed to GNA Greek Nations alliance, we will change our stated aims to the protection of any Greek nation that comes under attack, this is reasonable.

Thank you, our fleet is now leaving the eastern med to head out to the North Atlantic

Thank you for complying with our demands Greece and Cyprus, but i will still be keeping an eye on you and your alliance.
Turetel
01-05-2004, 16:41
Never-mind, glad hostilites are ceasing at the moment.
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:42
IDF, as I said, you had better back down. I am twice your size and invading a nation for suggesting an alliance is not acceptable. Perhaps if the AZA invaded you might be justified. You are not.

Daylam i understand your protecting of g&c, but alliances and nations like this cannot be tolerated. IDF as much as much as i am on your side, maybe you should pull back so we can communicate to g&c in a more diplomatic way.
already done

Well done, IDF i will be in touch with you soon.
Daylam
01-05-2004, 16:42
It doesnt matter if it is AZA or Lowly Cheese Peoples, it is defensive and has not committed any aggresive act on any of your nations or allies.
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:46
It doesnt matter if it is AZA or Lowly Cheese Peoples, it is defensive and has not committed any aggresive act on any of your nations or allies.

I understand this Daylam and i am being reasonable and diplomatic here, but alliances of this type cannot be tolerated, we have seen quite enough of these alliances already and frankly we have had enough of them.
I also suggest you do not threaten my ally IDF, this is not a threat of any type just a suggestion.

- wwa
Daylam
01-05-2004, 16:49
It doesnt matter if it is AZA or Lowly Cheese Peoples, it is defensive and has not committed any aggresive act on any of your nations or allies.

I understand this Daylam and i am being reasonable and diplomatic here, but alliances of this type cannot be tolerated, we have seen quite enough of these alliances already and frankly we have had enough of them.
I also suggest you do not threaten my ally IDF, this is not a threat of any type just a suggestion.

- wwa


1. It has one young tiny member.
2. No one offered to join.
3. It did not commit or even plan any aggresive acts.
4. It was a DEFENSIVE alliance. Which means, unless a Zionist group attacked the member, it wouldnt be doing anything.


As for IDF, it was him who took preliminary, aggresive, and unlawful action.
IDF
01-05-2004, 16:51
It doesnt matter if it is AZA or Lowly Cheese Peoples, it is defensive and has not committed any aggresive act on any of your nations or allies.

I understand this Daylam and i am being reasonable and diplomatic here, but alliances of this type cannot be tolerated, we have seen quite enough of these alliances already and frankly we have had enough of them.
I also suggest you do not threaten my ally IDF, this is not a threat of any type just a suggestion.

- wwa


1. It has one young tiny member.
2. No one offered to join.
3. It did not commit or even plan any aggresive acts.
4. It was a DEFENSIVE alliance. Which means, unless a Zionist group attacked the member, it wouldnt be doing anything.


As for IDF, it was him who took preliminary, aggresive, and unlawful action.

When did sending a fleet to international waters become unlawful? I never really intended to attack. I followed the TR way. Walk softly and carry a big stick. I was simply using his 1903 Panama strategy where he sent US Navy ships and was able to get Colombia to back down without a shot.
01-05-2004, 16:52
Since it was a defensive alliance, i made my own Alliance if anyone wants to join, and we aren't going to let anybody shut us down, even if it means an unwinable war....
World wide allies
01-05-2004, 16:53
It doesnt matter if it is AZA or Lowly Cheese Peoples, it is defensive and has not committed any aggresive act on any of your nations or allies.

I understand this Daylam and i am being reasonable and diplomatic here, but alliances of this type cannot be tolerated, we have seen quite enough of these alliances already and frankly we have had enough of them.
I also suggest you do not threaten my ally IDF, this is not a threat of any type just a suggestion.

- wwa


1. It has one young tiny member.
2. No one offered to join.
3. It did not commit or even plan any aggresive acts.
4. It was a DEFENSIVE alliance. Which means, unless a Zionist group attacked the member, it wouldnt be doing anything.


As for IDF, it was him who took preliminary, aggresive, and unlawful action.

Yes i understand IDF took aggresive action, but wouldn't you if someone was discriminating against your religion, your culture or your homelands?.

I do not see the reason for us still to be arguing about this since this issue has been closed and negotiations have succeeded, so this will be my final post on the issue.

- The Jb states of world wide allies
Daylam
01-05-2004, 17:06
If I'm white and I hear some black kids in a corner making fun of whites (but not doing anything) do I go over there and shoot them?

Consider that the blacks are also 5 year old children. Then do I go over there and shoot them?