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Emperor Miller, in reaction to reports of no confidence from it's his allies in UnAPS, has decided that Doujin's continued stay in that alliance was no longer necessary. Further details are being witheld at the moment, and may be released at a later date.

Emperor Maxwell Miller,
Empire of Doujin

Remind me, what was UnAPs again?

I take it from that statement you are breaking all diplomatic connections with all UnAPS nations seeing as you clearly aren't distinuishing between nations within the alliance.

By the looks of things you are burning all your bridges behind you. It's a real shame really, we were prepared to put our forces on the line to help your nation against aggressors, even after your questionable regime change.

It's seems I misplaced my trust with you Doujin, I wouldn't mind you just leaving, even if you complained about the way things have gone down... we could keep relations that way. But to condemn us for a war that Allanea started clearly with imperialist intents and then to accuse us, all of us (and not some of us), of being imperialistic...

How can we trust you again?

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Doujin, care to join the new triumverate? Details in TG.

The Emperor personally wants to correct his statement. The reports of no confidence were mainly found in the nation of Edolia, who is currently the Secretary General of the UnAPS. There are a couple fine nations in UnAPS, Iuthia being one of them. The fact that Iuthia was in UnAPS was one of Doujin's reasons for joining that alliance. However, we could not remain in an alliance were member nations, excluding Iuthia and a few others, were considering letting a foreign nation invade and shape a new government.

I must admit, the entire alliance as a whole is not imperialistic. Iuthia, Copiosa, and a few others were heavily against the idea of annexing Allanea that Scandavian States and Edolia proposed. It was not my intent to paint that picture on every nation in UnAPS, but it was needed to be painted on Edolia, in the least.

Allanea truely feels that Axackal belongs to them, and they have obviously shown they are willing to fight for that. While I am not personally fond of Allanea, I willnot support continued action against Allanea after a nuclear warhead was dropped, and when other means can be found - like a "poll" of sorts of Axackal, wether or not they wish to stay an Edolian economic zone or be brought back into Allanea.

I will not be breaking all diplomatic connections with nations in UnAPS. Just a few, namely Lietuveska, Edolia, The Island States, Barentsburg, and Feline. We wish to keep limited connections with Scandavian States, and Mintar, and we would prefer that our connections with Iuthia remain the same as they were when we were a member of UnAPS.

Again, I deeply regret such brief statement made by me earlier. I wanted to give as little information as possible on internal UnAPS matters, as the public isn't the best place for them.

Emperor Maxwell Miller,
Empire of Doujin

We are disappointed that the new Doujin Empire only seeks "limited connections" with the Imperium. We would have hoped that the alliance between our two nations before either of us was bound by charter went deeper than this.

We will take these words into concideration however we do feel to some degree betrayed by your condemnation against a war we did not start... I'll admit that the issue of how to handle Allanea is on shakey ground but for the time being most nations are concentrating on keeping their allies casualities down to a mininum against Allanean aggression.

Meanwhile we understand your pain from the nuclear incident, but you should take that up with Phyrric whom is responcable for that incident, hell it's the reason they got kicked out.

None the less we can understand that these issues are moot point now, they are your own to handle though you should take them into account when dealing with these nations as you are now... I would very much prefer that you simply keep out of the wars against our alliance and show neutrality, if only for old times sake.


We will of course keep our relations the same with Doujin, though with a certain degree of caution in the future, I can only hope that in time we can rebuild some of the trust lost today.

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Upon hearing the announcement, military planners within the Office of Military Affairs were relieved, having not to worry very much over the status with Doujin and the weakening of the UnAPS by yet another withdrawing nation.

Tariffs against Doujin business have been lowered-though still are higher than normal compared to neutral nations-and general easing of restrictions against Doujini trade, citizens, and other matters have been eased. However, the government decided to continue the ban of computer systems to Doujin, as well as the military trade ban.

The Prime Minister was extremely pissed off. Doujin had been a rather close ally, and now all connections had been cut. She was furious at former members of the UnAPS. Lietuveska was one of the few respected nations, as the rest of the world had taken the UnAPS as an imperialistic, psychotic organization. She knew that this was not so, and was ready to fully condemn Doujin. She angrily walked to the Press Room in the Blått Hus, her heels clunking loudly on the marble floor.

She sped full fledge into the Press Room, taking everyone by surprise. Bitter, she began. "Today the Doujinishi government has not only resigned from the UnAPS, but has completely betrayed our nation. We are in our most dire time of history, and yet our ally has abandoned us. This act of cowardice and pathetic immaturity has quite frankly simply angered the Lietuv government, and our people are already furious.

"Just in case anyone wanted to guess, Lietuveska is officially renouncing Doujin as a nation, and we hereby refuse to recognize the so-called government of Doujin. If there are no further questions, I will talk to all of you later." She turned and stormed out of the room, not giving the slighest intention to allow anyone to ask questions.

Official Statement From Artitsa:

To All:

Any nation that chooses to... begin hostilites with Doujin for leaving this corrupt Alliance will have to face Artitsa. But not only Artitsa, but the Alliances we represent, such as: GDA, NJA, and NCA.
Several nations in APTO have pledged support to our fine nation as well, and seeing how one of them is the Military Leader of APTO, we would also get their military support. In conclusion to this statement, we ask once more for every nation to not old aggressions against Doujin nor perscute them for their decision. Once more, Artitsa stands fully behind their decision, and as you all hopefully know we have a large amount of Naval assets in Haven if necessary.

Furthermore, we kindly ask that all UnAPS Nations end their plight against Allanea, our ally in mutual defence and through NCA. Any attack of our supplies through TROUSRs land will be seen as an act of war, and we will come down like a hammer upon an anvil.

Vladimir Zanskivich
Artitsan Foreign Affairs

Official Statement From Artitsa:

To All:

Any nation that chooses to... begin hostilites with Doujin for leaving this corrupt Alliance will have to face Artitsa. But not only Artitsa, but the Alliances we represent, such as: GDA, NJA, and NCA.
Several nations in APTO have pledged support to our fine nation as well, and seeing how one of them is the Military Leader of APTO, we would also get their military support. In conclusion to this statement, we ask once more for every nation to not old aggressions against Doujin nor perscute them for their decision. Once more, Artitsa stands fully behind their decision, and as you all hopefully know we have a large amount of Naval assets in Haven if necessary.

Furthermore, we kindly ask that all UnAPS Nations end their plight against Allanea, our ally in mutual defence and through NCA. Any attack of our supplies through TROUSRs land will be seen as an act of war, and we will come down like a hammer upon an anvil.

Vladimir Zanskivich
Artitsan Foreign Affairs

I assure you, what is left of UnAPS, that fell on complete deaf ears.

OOC: Oh yes, give me more information.

IC:

After the joyed advisors recieved news of Doujin's resignation, they recieved the Liet transmission, sending the already overjoyed advisors into a frenzy.

"Seems they needed Doujin more than we thought, my Emperor."

"Yes, General," the Empire half-laughed, half-spoke, unable to hide his joy, "it appears they view thier situation as very dire. With what seems another weakening of the UnAPS, coupled with a terrible leaking of information, we now know they are unsure of victory. Of course we all are, really, but it seems that the Liet speaker was deeply hurt. What is the situation in Yasmarea?"

"It seems, my Emperor, the sea battle for Yasmarea is, by my estimates, very well and I expect the ground battle that follows will go swiftly. Yasmarea is but a pawn on the chessboard of this war. We will soon be able to assist in the removal of another pawn, the Island States and then it is probably going to be smooth sailing once we finally can break the blockade of Allanea. I have no other news."

"Good to hear, good to hear. Well, be off then, I have other matters to attend to," he stared lovingly at his young son, sitting on his left, and his wife, on his right, "such as the Empress and the Prince-Emperor."

The Omzian Democratic Federal Republic is dissatisfied upon the leaving from the UnAPS alliance by Doujin with a cause of the continued instability and turmoil within the region of Haven. As much as we understand the decisions of the Empire of Doujin, we rather hope that Doujin could once again perhaps join UnAPS after the continued conflicts within the region of Haven. We can also understand the Empire of Doujin's stance on such matters of a possible occupation of Allanea and the continued occupation of Axackal.

As the Omzian Republic is nertual on the subjects of treatment of such leaving members of UnAPS and others, we would like to retain a peaceful and friendly relationship with the Empire of Doujin, and to hope that relationships from breakaway UnAPS members would still be retained in a such way.

UnAPS Affairs Office,
Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Omzian Democratic Federal Republic

Im sure Iuthia heard it, as hes the only respectable Nation remaining. Truely if that is true however, that is terribly saddening that such an alliance would continue to push for death and violence at the cost of preventing a country from reuniting its people.

The Empire of Doujin will of course be interested in maintaining a peaceful and friendly relationship. Further instability is not what we are hoping for, but we simply could not remain in an alliance were, even if only a few, allies were tempted to let foriegners come in and try and topple the Doujin government.

Anyone who wishes to reopen diplomatic ties that were severed with our leaving of UnAPS, contact the Doujin government and we will work it out.

Im sure Iuthia heard it, as hes the only respectable Nation remaining. Truely if that is true however, that is terribly saddening that such an alliance would continue to push for death and violence at the cost of preventing a country from reuniting its people.

You are asking UnAPS to end it's hostilities with Allanea? I'm surely this is possible if Allanea leaves Ackaxal once and for all lest we forget it was them who instigated war on us... we were willing to negotiate and I can provide proof on that but Allanea sought war with UnAPS over Edolia's terrian.

I'm tired of everyone twisting these facts... if you want peace I would suggest Allanea goes back to Allanea and stops trying to take Edolia's land from them. If Allanea stops I'm sure we can stop and I'll make it happen, but they started this and this is why Iuthia is unwilling to accept Artitsa as a trusted nation, you support Allanea's attack against UnAPS.

I have no qualms with Artitsa but I do have a problem with this continued assault against my ally. Doujin will not have any nations attack him, trust me on this as I will leave UnAPS if any of our members tries anything with them (assuming Doujin doesn't attack us, but I doubt that would be the case as I expect Doujin to avoid the war like the plague).

So if you call off Allanea who sought this war against UnAPS then I will work with my allies to stop this madness without any further action taken. I want peace but Allanea clearly started this and any nation who cannot reckognise that is clearly mistaken. There peopel are now Edolian... it's been too long and this is not the way to get their old land back.


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We understand what you are saying, Lord General deGritz, but we do not hold that much power over Allanea. Perhaps if you just gave him the land there would be no needless Bloodshed, or is this one of those Honor things in which Pride overtakes cost of lives?

I surely hope it is not.

Vladimir Zanskivich
Artitsan Foreign Affairs

Early this morning, the State Department issued this statement concerning the withdrawal of Doujin from the UN-APS alliance.

With the continuing break-up of UN-APS, the Republic of Pissed off Americans here by recognizes the new government of Doujin. As stated earlier, the RPA condemns any action Militarily or Economic that may cause instability in the new government of Doujin. The RPA will take whatever action it deems necessary to aid the new government of Doujin.

We understand what you are saying, Lord General deGritz, but we do not hold that much power over Allanea. Perhaps if you just gave him the land there would be no needless Bloodshed, or is this one of those Honor things in which Pride overtakes cost of lives?

I surely hope it is not.

Vladimir Zanskivich
Artitsan Foreign Affairs

IC:

"Should the US have let Japan take over Hawaii in World War 2. Your statement is at best ludicrous, at worst, downright insulting. You are saying we should not defendwhat is rightfully ours because it might lead to bloodshed?????"

"Our dissappointment with Doujin's...hasty withdrawal...is overwhelming, and it is only through sheer force of will and the great friendship that once existed between our two nations that still permits us to even recognise the new government of Doujin."

"Needless to say, if Doujin continues on this manner, even to the point of allying with traitors, we will take steps to respond, including the seizure of Doujin's considerable industrial assets within the nation of the Freethinkers."

"We hope that reason prevails. We are a peaceful nation, and we only wish for this to have a satisfactory conclusion. But...reality has to set in, and Doujin's withdrawal is something more than a mere diplomatic move, it is the abandonment of his friends and allies when they needed him, as far as we are concerned."

"With all respect"

Diplomatic Office of the Freethinkers


OOC: Douj, douj, douj, seriously mate you really need better timing. :)

OOC: I was not in the mood to deal with Edolia. Still am not. And you do realize, Freethinkers, that Axackal was once Allanean territory? It originally belonged to Allanea.

We understand what you are saying, Lord General deGritz, but we do not hold that much power over Allanea. Perhaps if you just gave him the land there would be no needless Bloodshed, or is this one of those Honor things in which Pride overtakes cost of lives?

Or perhaps if Allanea was willing to show respect for our territories we may have given them their old territory back...are you trying to justify their action? That it is exceptable for a nation to invade another in such a way without even trying diplomacy...

But wait, Allanea did... they but they stated that they wanted Iron Blood to mediate, of all the nation he could have picked they wouldn't let anybody but Iron Blood mediate when we hate Iron Blood more then we hate them.

Meanwhile they pushed a with insult after insult, prior to the war. Did we attack them? Hell no, we held our ground, even after they started propergander in Edolia, even after their "unlawful combatants" killed our citizens, even after they build a freaking statue to those combatants that killed innocents. But no, we did not attack them, when things were calming down and both sides were backing off Allanea invaded Axackal.

Oh yes, I know it used to by their terroritory once, a long time ago. But there are many ways to get back old territory... this is not an acceptable way and to spit in our faces about "Imperialism" and the such when Allanea instigated this war against us is an insult to us all...

I want peace, I want things the way they were and I'll fight for peace if Allanea backs down, if you are looking to bitch at someone for lose of life bitch at Allanea, a nation whom used 3 million prisoners who were forced marched and shot by their own side to position them to attack Edolia... they are the ones who are to blame, condemn those guys.

You say you don't hold much power over Allanea yet you are trying to use diplomacy to stop us from fighting a war we didn't even start... talk to them instead, condemn thier attrocities.

I tired of this crap, I tire of the accusations against my alliance... the nation who left did so over things which will never happen but they felt too strongly about... but when it comes to things we've actually done the only nation who did anything really messed up was Phyrric, who is no longer part of UnAPS. Allanea is the aggressor here and thats all there is to it, if you want this to stop you will have to convince them to stop their aggression.

If you are unwilling to condemn your ally for the crap they've pulled then I suggest you quit bugging us about the stuff we haven't even commited.

Thanks for listening,

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OOC: Doujin, you don't need to point out the blatantly obvious. We know it used to belong to Allanea, but this is not the way civilised nations get territory back.

OOC: I was not in the mood to deal with Edolia. Still am not. And you do realize, Freethinkers, that Axackal was once Allanean territory? It originally belonged to Allanea.

OOC: Yes I am, I know it was the Allanean cause of war, and it doesnt change the situation whatsoever. Allanea is still the aggressor and that does not change under any circumstances. And everyone in general, just remember to keep things strictly IC and OOC okay?

And my apologies for my terrible spelling in my last post, but it was very late at night.

OOC: So, India and Pakistan aren't civilized? They fought (how many wars?) for a piece of land each believe belong to them.

OOC: 3 wars...1948, 1965, 1971
And Pakistanis and Indians are very civilized

Riannen is extremely disappointed to hear that Doujn has left UnAPS entirely based on the actions of only a few nations. We hope we are not among the nations condemned by Doujn. Although we find Doujn's actions unreasonable, it is their right as a nation to join and leave whichever alliances thay see fit, and they cannot be blamed for their bad timing. It was the time that seemed right for them. We do not see any reason to cease relations with Doujn, and hope they will agree as well.

We also take offense at Artitsa's comment that Iuthia is the only respectable nation left in the UnAPS. There are other respectable nations in UnAPS, although many of us have kept a lower profile.

OOC: I would argue that at the time when either Pakistan or India started a war on the other in an attempted land grab that the action wasn't civilised and most likely condemned by most other nations.

However there is a difference between a civilised culture and a civilised way of doing things. They are not mutualy exclusive, you can be civilised and commit uncivilised actions.

Whats more I don't think people would condemn the defenders of that terrian when they didn't start the war...

Now enough OOC about this subject. It's getting silly.

Riannen, you are not condemned by my nation. And, when those few nations happen to be some of the leadership of UnAPS, it matters a whole lot more.

Emperor Maxwell Miller

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Hm... I've got to admit that this propergander is almost seemless, but I do beleive it says more about the freedom of minds in Flufflywuffy then any UnAPS nations could say, it's hard to think it but this poster pretty much symbolises the blatant lies made up against our alliance.

I'm be surpised if any nation buys this... it's blatant crap, most nations have moved on to allowing their people to make up their own minds instead of force feeding crap to their people.

Welldone, I couldn't have made a better point against your nations agression towards UnAPs if I tried.

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