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Bedou needs Emigration assistance( Open RP)

Bedou
30-04-2004, 06:28
Associated Press.

"Sultan Mohammed Bin Al Deeb today made an announcement to the global community. Below is the official transcript."

"I Sultan Mohhamed Bin Al Deeb, of the Nomad tribes of Bedou.
First wish to thank the Great and most merciful and generous nation of Wazzu. They were so kind to provide my displaced people with a land to live in the old honorable ways of our people. Now, today, that way is threatened. Not by foreign invaders, or economic collapse, or disease or famine. It is threatened by our growth as a people.
Bedou's policy has always been to offer shelter and saftey to all who seek it. Now that policy has flooded our borders, many muslims throughout the world who sought a safe harbor from the wars and divisions of our old nations have sought us out to relearn their heritage, to relearn their faith.
The lands that Wazzu have provided are too small to hold our people and maintian our lifestyle, and the harshness of our lifestyle is what teaches these modern muslims humility.
We ask the international community for shelter for a branch of the Bedou people, to live and work, they will provide border defense of that area, they will take the land you do not want, the desert land, the waste, the blight, frozen tundra, or deep swamp. We benfit from your generosity and you will benefit from ours.
The Prophet's blessings be upon you all."
Roycelandia
30-04-2004, 07:29
The Empire of Roycelandia might be able to assist you.

Our principal overseas Colony- Roycelandian East Africa- includes the large province of The Sudan. Most of it is desert, but it shares borders with two very unpredictable neighbouring Nations- Egypt and Somalia.

We would be more than happy to allow the Bedou to move in and live in the border deserts of The Sudan, but we must stress that the land will remain Roycelandian... any Bedou wishing to take advantage of this generous offer will receive Roycelandian Citizenship and will be permitted to live their lives unmolested in the Sudanese Deserts bordering Egypt and Somalia, if they so desire.
Roycelandia
30-04-2004, 07:32
double post...
Bedou
30-04-2004, 09:00
Open E-mail transmission.

"To the leaders of Roycelandia,
We appreciate your offer, and many of our people are from the Sudan area and many still have family members in the area. The civil unrest you speak of is exactly what so many muslims thought to escape by coming to Swedish Bedou. We again a deeply moved by your offer, but in order to have our people move BACK to that area would require us to send a large and substantial military presence. One I am sure you do not want, and one we are not, yet, prepared to deploy.
In the future when we can better serve to bring peace the region we would gladly accept.
Blessings ofthe Prophet be upon your nation."
Marimaia
30-04-2004, 09:39
Greetings from the Suunist People's Republic of Marimaia!

Our Premier has heard of the plight of Bedou, and we would like to offer our nation's services. We can provide the Gonggong Wilderness for your habitation needs; the central government would also endeavour to assist with any matters which occur after settlement. Although our government is officially atheist, we do not oppose the practise of peaceful faiths, so rest assured that your people can practise Islam without harassment.

Our only condition is that any people resettled within our borders accept facilitator visits every month to assess any needs that they may have. As they would become Marimaian citizens, they would be subject to the Suunist pledge that "no Marimaian will endure hardship unless that is their choice".

If you are interested, do not hesitate to contact us.

Rongyi Bei,
Minister of Foreign Relations.
Bedou
30-04-2004, 20:18
Open Transmission
To Marimaia Minister of Foreign Relations,
Rongyi Bei.

This offer has potential, however.
Bedouins of the tribes of Bedou have diverse citizenship, as we do not veiw this concept the way most nations do.
We exist as nation because of traditions and customs and lifestyle and faith. Land boundries, locations, even language, are not truly the prime factor which determines a Bedou from a none Bedou.
If you wish for them to be called citizens of Marimaia, then that is fine.
To be Bedou has little to do with citizenship.
They will maintain arms, that is a Bedou custom, no man may go unarmed.
However regarding your monthly inspections, we as a people deeply respect hospitality and manners, so inspectors who try to travel with Bedou to examine their lifestyle would be met warmly.
The AoH founder compiled some information on Bedou, and there is also another link for more.
4th Entry (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?showtopic=76)
Alcona and Hubris
30-04-2004, 20:34
Interior Ministry: Alcona and Hubris
Offer of Vaux status to Bedou with writ of Milita Service.

At the present time, The Dual Duchies of Alcona and Hubris have purchased a large continent once owned by Xanthal. This continent has a large desert areas which are currently under utlizlied. The government is willing to allow 25,000 Bedou to emigrate to these areas and become legal Vaux.

Vaux are recoginised as foriegn workers on the first stage to citizenship. However, law proscribes that only retired or active members of the militia or military may carry firearms. Therefore, anyone who wished to own a rifle, handgun...etc. would have to be allowed into the Milita forces of Alcona and Hubris.

We should note that Vaux are prohibited from carrying any bladed weapon greater than six inches in length. The ability to carry short swords is a right granted to Freemen only. Long swords may only be carried by a swordsman, sword master, or a member of the peerage.
Bedou
01-05-2004, 06:01
Open Transmission
To Alcona and Hubris Interior Ministry,
Regarding: Offer of Vaux status to Bedou with writ of Milita Service.

While your offer hardly helps with our situation, it is your land, and extremely gracious of you to offer it to the least of our number.

A group of 3,000 Ashtan fighters and thier families will be more then happy to volunteer to be militia in this desert land of yours.

Contrary to the image of the average Muslim warrior weilding a scimitar, the Ashtan's ceremonial weapon(please realise that even ceremonial weapons must serve a real use, in the desert nothing is carried that serves no real purpose) is the Sh' a La Leh, in common martial arts terminology it would be called a Jo, or perhaps a long cane. Of course they also use rifles, as well as any other modern weapon one might encounter on a normal battle field.
The Sh' a La Leh is however helpful when herding camels, and goats.
As well as obviously, a cane.
The Ashtan who will journeying to your nation, will be allowed only small arms?
Or is the use of their aircraft and armour allowed?
Marimaia
01-05-2004, 09:39
Greetings once again!

If your people wish to maintain arms should they move to Marimaia, then we have no problem with that. All we ask is that they contribute to the defence of our nation should we ever be attacked. If it is desired, then we can assist with maintaining their equipment.

The Gonggong Wilderness is a vast area; we have varying estimates on the possible population it could support. If you give us an idea of how many people you wish to have relocated, we can tell you if a total relocation is possible. If it is not, then we can let you know exactly how many Bedou we can accept.

Rongyi Bei
Minister of Foreign Relations
Bedou
18-05-2004, 05:15
Greetings once again!

If your people wish to maintain arms should they move to Marimaia, then we have no problem with that. All we ask is that they contribute to the defence of our nation should we ever be attacked. If it is desired, then we can assist with maintaining their equipment.

The Gonggong Wilderness is a vast area; we have varying estimates on the possible population it could support. If you give us an idea of how many people you wish to have relocated, we can tell you if a total relocation is possible. If it is not, then we can let you know exactly how many Bedou we can accept.

Rongyi Bei
Minister of Foreign Relations
Sheik Mohammed-"The Bedou would number approximately 50,000,000.
They will of course bring animals, tents, heavy equipment, anything else they may need(weapons). We hope that is acceptable.
Bedou
18-05-2004, 05:18
The Empire of Roycelandia might be able to assist you.

Our principal overseas Colony- Roycelandian East Africa- includes the large province of The Sudan. Most of it is desert, but it shares borders with two very unpredictable neighbouring Nations- Egypt and Somalia.

We would be more than happy to allow the Bedou to move in and live in the border deserts of The Sudan, but we must stress that the land will remain Roycelandian... any Bedou wishing to take advantage of this generous offer will receive Roycelandian Citizenship and will be permitted to live their lives unmolested in the Sudanese Deserts bordering Egypt and Somalia, if they so desire.
We have re considered your offer and accept. We would like to begin to negotiate the terms.
Josh Dollins
18-05-2004, 05:20
all faiths and people are welcome to our nation so long as they will work and give back to the country economically and so on. We welcome your citizens with open arms but as I said the deal is they follow our laws and give back to the country. Also we would like to be assured via a security check that those who are to come are clean of any sever crimes (terrorism ya know) now the land you will recieve within our borders and under our law once they have been cleared through security is indeed a desert area however it is populated by others, we will accept 100,000 of your people maximum we already btw have a small muslim community largely residing in this area. We would however also like to open trade with your nation (oil and the like) as well.
Daylam
18-05-2004, 05:45
The Turkic People's Qaghanate of Daylam can offer many thousands or even millions of Bedou into its lands in nations such as Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and East Turkestan (Xinjiang province in China). They will be subject to serve in all-Bedou divisions in the Daylami army but otherwise giving completely free rights. They will not be forced to live on communes so long as they provide military service.

Looking forward to your answer,

Qaghan Kül Tigin II of the TPQD
Bedou
18-05-2004, 05:48
all faiths and people are welcome to our nation so long as they will work and give back to the country economically and so on. We welcome your citizens with open arms but as I said the deal is they follow our laws and give back to the country. Also we would like to be assured via a security check that those who are to come are clean of any sever crimes (terrorism ya know) now the land you will recieve within our borders and under our law once they have been cleared through security is indeed a desert area however it is populated by others, we will accept 100,000 of your people maximum we already btw have a small muslim community largely residing in this area. We would however also like to open trade with your nation (oil and the like) as well.
The Bedou people will retain Bedou citizenship,(if you require them to be citizens then it will be dual status). We appreciate the needfor a background check, we understand that profiling really does work.
It is against the Bedou code for at the very least the men to go unarmed, so their immigration is contingent upon them retaining the ability to defend them selves. Trade...We agree to trade. However we are a "displaced" group of mixxed tribes of desert nomads, who currently call a portion of Sweden home thanks to the generosity of the Wazzu government.To that end, we do not have oil. We do some rather sophisticated work in the IT field though.
Is this acceptable.
Xaniqall
18-05-2004, 05:50
The lands of Xaniqall are vast and we gladly offer refuge to as many as you wish to send. We can make room.
Bedou
18-05-2004, 05:55
The Turkic People's Qaghanate of Daylam can offer many thousands or even millions of Bedou into its lands in nations such as Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, and East Turkestan (Xinjiang province in China). They will be subject to serve in all-Bedou divisions in the Daylami army but otherwise giving completely free rights. They will not be forced to live on communes so long as they provide military service.

Looking forward to your answer,

Qaghan Kül Tigin II of the TPQD
Excellent, how long is the requirement to serve?
That single detail, is all we require.
Could you fit 100,000,000 Bedou? in the wildernesses of your nation? We do require very little in the way of creature comforts, the tents have proveded for us for over a thousand years.
Daylam
18-05-2004, 05:58
The terms are negotiable for army service. We could fit that many, and they will serve to populate the eastern regions of our empire.

Obviously we realize we cannot keep a population in the army without its consent, so the Bedou have a large say in the military service.
Roycelandia
18-05-2004, 05:58
Roycelandia's offer is still open, and we are glad that you have decided to negotiate with us.

We are prepared to allow the Bedouin to relocate to The Sudan, but there are a few caveats that are not open to negotiation:

1. The Bedouin are free to practice their religion(s) without any interference or discrimination from the Imperial Government, but they must NOT attempt to convert others, force their beliefs or practices on others, or engage in any religious fanatacism or zealousness.

2. Military Service is compulsory in the Roycelandian Empire. All Persons (male or female) aged between 18-30 are required to serve for at least two months per year in the Colonial Guard. The Bedou will not be stationed outside Roycelandian East Africa, nor will they be required to act in any offensive capability.

3. The Imperial Government requires all permanent residents and citizens to learn English. We are prepared to exempt the Bedou from this (if English is not their first language), but it will make their lives much easier if they learn rudimentary English.

4. The Death Penalty has been outlawed in Roycelandia, and is constitutionally forbidden from being legalised, enacted, or carried out.

5. The Roycelandian Government does not recognise Shariah Law. However, our Justice System is extremely fair and should not cause any conflicts with the Bedou beliefs or social structure.

6. All Persons over the age of 14 are required by law to own a firearm of at least .32 calibre (for handguns) and at least 5.56mm (for rifles). There are no restrictions on the number, type, calibre, etc of guns that can be owned.

7. All Persons in the Roycelandian Empire are equal in all respects, male or female, straight or gay, Citizen or otherwise.

If all this is acceptable to you, we're more than willing to negotiate and accept the new Immigrants...
Roycelandia
18-05-2004, 06:28
It is not illegal to discuss your beliefs in Roycelandia, and a free exchange of ideas is encouraged. It is, however, illegal to force those beliefs on other people- ie, in the "The Bible says that it's wrong for people to have sex before marriage, therefore it should be illegal" way. The Bedou will not be restricted in any way from carrying out their religious practices, provided they don't try and force them on anyone else who doesn't want to be part of the religion.

Any Bedou who wish to serve in an Offensive Capacity, join the Imperial Foreign Legion, or any other military branch are more than welcome to do so.

Roycelandia encourages the learning of foreign languages and we gratefully accept the assistance of anyone who wishes to help us further that goal.

As for the Death Penalty- as long as no executions are carried out in Roycelandian territory, then we can be prepared to look the other way, so to speak. However, if someone who is condemned escapes and is captured by Roycelandian Authorities, they will not be returned for Execution. Instead, depending on the crime, they will either be banished to a different Colony, or possibly imprisoned on the Shark Island penal colony.

If all the above terms are agreeable, then Roycelandia is more than happy to accept the immigrants from Bedou as soon as the necessary arrangements can be made.
Josh Dollins
18-05-2004, 06:36
The Bedou people will retain Bedou citizenship,(if you require them to be citizens then it will be dual status). We appreciate the needfor a background check, we understand that profiling really does work.
It is against the Bedou code for at the very least the men to go unarmed, so their immigration is contingent upon them retaining the ability to defend them selves. Trade...We agree to trade. However we are a "displaced" group of mixxed tribes of desert nomads, who currently call a portion of Sweden howe thanks to the generosity of the Wazzu government.To that end, we do not have oil. We do some rather sophisticated work in the IT field though.
Is this acceptable.[/quote]

Certainly dual citizenship is fine. ALso we are very pro arms here your people are even welcome to assualt rifles and may carry them with them at all times wherever they may be. Yes security checks will be done before allowing them in, any laws broken etc. they will be returned to you. Good on the trade. we look forward to this.
Marimaia
18-05-2004, 09:32
Sheik Mohammed-"The Bedou would number approximately 50,000,000.
They will of course bring animals, tents, heavy equipment, anything else they may need(weapons). We hope that is acceptable.

After discussions with the rest of the cabinet, I can announce that it is perfectly acceptable. Rest assured that your people will receive a warm welcome from our population; we have informed the public of the situation, and they are pleased to accept the Bedou. Will you require any assistance in transporting them to the Gonggong Wilderness?

Rongyi Bei,
Minister of Foreign Relations
Bedou
18-05-2004, 13:43
Sheik Mohammed-"The Bedou would number approximately 50,000,000.
They will of course bring animals, tents, heavy equipment, anything else they may need(weapons). We hope that is acceptable.

After discussions with the rest of the cabinet, I can announce that it is perfectly acceptable. Rest assured that your people will receive a warm welcome from our population; we have informed the public of the situation, and they are pleased to accept the Bedou. Will you require any assistance in transporting them to the Gonggong Wilderness?

Rongyi Bei,
Minister of Foreign Relations
The Bedou's Alliance member FallCorp(Cant spell the actual nation name).
Will provide transport, the move should take about two years.
Fallcorp does not operate a military, so they should not be considered(Bedou is one of their defending nation's along with the rest of the AoH).
Bedou
18-05-2004, 13:45
It is not illegal to discuss your beliefs in Roycelandia, and a free exchange of ideas is encouraged. It is, however, illegal to force those beliefs on other people- ie, in the "The Bible says that it's wrong for people to have sex before marriage, therefore it should be illegal" way. The Bedou will not be restricted in any way from carrying out their religious practices, provided they don't try and force them on anyone else who doesn't want to be part of the religion.

Any Bedou who wish to serve in an Offensive Capacity, join the Imperial Foreign Legion, or any other military branch are more than welcome to do so.

Roycelandia encourages the learning of foreign languages and we gratefully accept the assistance of anyone who wishes to help us further that goal.

As for the Death Penalty- as long as no executions are carried out in Roycelandian territory, then we can be prepared to look the other way, so to speak. However, if someone who is condemned escapes and is captured by Roycelandian Authorities, they will not be returned for Execution. Instead, depending on the crime, they will either be banished to a different Colony, or possibly imprisoned on the Shark Island penal colony.

If all the above terms are agreeable, then Roycelandia is more than happy to accept the immigrants from Bedou as soon as the necessary arrangements can be made.
Agreed.
Bedou
18-05-2004, 13:45
The Bedou people will retain Bedou citizenship,(if you require them to be citizens then it will be dual status). We appreciate the needfor a background check, we understand that profiling really does work.
It is against the Bedou code for at the very least the men to go unarmed, so their immigration is contingent upon them retaining the ability to defend them selves. Trade...We agree to trade. However we are a "displaced" group of mixxed tribes of desert nomads, who currently call a portion of Sweden howe thanks to the generosity of the Wazzu government.To that end, we do not have oil. We do some rather sophisticated work in the IT field though.
Is this acceptable.

Certainly dual citizenship is fine. ALso we are very pro arms here your people are even welcome to assualt rifles and may carry them with them at all times wherever they may be. Yes security checks will be done before allowing them in, any laws broken etc. they will be returned to you. Good on the trade. we look forward to this.[/quote]
Agreed.
Bedou
20-05-2004, 05:19
Roycelandia's offer is still open, and we are glad that you have decided to negotiate with us.

We are prepared to allow the Bedouin to relocate to The Sudan, but there are a few caveats that are not open to negotiation:

1. The Bedouin are free to practice their religion(s) without any interference or discrimination from the Imperial Government, but they must NOT attempt to convert others, force their beliefs or practices on others, or engage in any religious fanatacism or zealousness.

2. Military Service is compulsory in the Roycelandian Empire. All Persons (male or female) aged between 18-30 are required to serve for at least two months per year in the Colonial Guard. The Bedou will not be stationed outside Roycelandian East Africa, nor will they be required to act in any offensive capability.

3. The Imperial Government requires all permanent residents and citizens to learn English. We are prepared to exempt the Bedou from this (if English is not their first language), but it will make their lives much easier if they learn rudimentary English.

4. The Death Penalty has been outlawed in Roycelandia, and is constitutionally forbidden from being legalised, enacted, or carried out.

5. The Roycelandian Government does not recognise Shariah Law. However, our Justice System is extremely fair and should not cause any conflicts with the Bedou beliefs or social structure.

6. All Persons over the age of 14 are required by law to own a firearm of at least .32 calibre (for handguns) and at least 5.56mm (for rifles). There are no restrictions on the number, type, calibre, etc of guns that can be owned.

7. All Persons in the Roycelandian Empire are equal in all respects, male or female, straight or gay, Citizen or otherwise.

If all this is acceptable to you, we're more than willing to negotiate and accept the new Immigrants...
accepted.
United Korean Nations
20-05-2004, 05:44
we offer the 22 Acre P'Kang Na Mountain Range. litterd with Craters from Metoer Impacts, Harsh Mountains nearly as tall as in the Himalayas, and Pits that reach the Temperture of almost 129 Degrees Farenheight, it is Considered Useless land in the very Heart of Korea. however, it is rich in natural resorces, and the Site where Krystal Klear(tm) drinking water is bottled every Spring and summer month. thee is 1 Adandoned Airfield there, so you can Have your own Air Force. however, there is no lik to the ocean. we will also donate 1 Cheyenne Light Tank to your military as a sign of Goodwill.

ooc: Either move your nation to Korean Maritime Stares or make a puppet and put it there 8)
Roycelandia
20-05-2004, 10:13
Excellent! We're glad we can come to an agreement.

Now, how will the Immigrants be arriving? The nearest airport of any note is Wadi Halfa in the north, or Khartoum in the middle.

In the East, Port Sudan has both an airport and a harbour, and further south still there are major airports in Port Imperial, Nairobi, and Enfield Harbour. The other ports are Enfield Harbour and Mombasa, FWIW...
Bedou
21-05-2004, 16:49
Excellent! We're glad we can come to an agreement.

Now, how will the Immigrants be arriving? The nearest airport of any note is Wadi Halfa in the north, or Khartoum in the middle.

In the East, Port Sudan has both an airport and a harbour, and further south still there are major airports in Port Imperial, Nairobi, and Enfield Harbour. The other ports are Enfield Harbour and Mombasa, FWIW...
Given the area is the Sudan, we would like to send 100,000,000.
However this number may be uncomfortable.
Bedou, will build their own power stations, and the major industries whose jobs may be influenced is IT sector, goat and camel herding(I doubt your citizens will worry), and of course being back in the Sudan, Horse breeding(of which we are most famous), Of course specialty items like hand woven fabrics and what not.
Is the number stated above acceptable?
If so we will come by sea to the port of Sudan, Enfield Harbour, and Mombasa. I am sure many will come over land(so please do not be surprised by Bedou attempting to walk across your borders).
We expect to be 90% complete 1 year from the beginning of the move.
Bedou
21-05-2004, 16:55
edited.
Bedou
23-05-2004, 06:36
The terms are negotiable for army service. We could fit that many, and they will serve to populate the eastern regions of our empire.

Obviously we realize we cannot keep a population in the army without its consent, so the Bedou have a large say in the military service.

We suggest a 1.5% constant military enrollment(with a mandatory 18 month term of service for all ages between 18 and 35).
We hope that is acceptable.
Roycelandia
23-05-2004, 09:45
100,000,000 is perhaps a little high at present.

79,000,000 would be a more acceptable number, at least until we see how the Sudanese infrastructure copes...
Bedou
23-05-2004, 20:20
Bedou
23-05-2004, 20:40
100,000,000 is perhaps a little high at present.

79,000,000 would be a more acceptable number, at least until we see how the Sudanese infrastructure copes...
To the Roycelandia Government.
From Sheik Bin Al Deeb
"We understand fully your concerns. Ours are very limited in this respect as almost unanamously muslims across the world hold those who practice the Bedouin tradition to be the closest to Allah, and find us to be living the most respectable life for a muslim. We are less worried about social tension in your controled territories(and those of Daylam) then any other.
How ever receiving in a short span of time immagrints who bear no ill will towards the land they are leaving and no tangible reason for loyalty to their new land can be considered a dangerous thing. Roycelandians have had no dealings with the Bedou, so they do not know anything of our culture from experience. We gladly accept the reducing of the intial move.
We of course over estimated our need to move, so we would be caught short by just this kind of situation. The Prophet's Mercy be Upon you."
Bedou
26-06-2004, 02:47
The Bedou Ministry of the Interior.
Formal Press Release:
"So many great nations aided the Bedou to keep their traditions sacred.
So again we must request of the international community, space for the Bedou to roam. We will occupy the most harsh regions of your nation.
We will defend your land and your people, and your ideal as far as they do not defy the Bedou muslim ideals.
We seek peace, and the restoration of a peaceful Islam.
On behalf of the Bedou people, we implore you, allow to help you.
So that we might all benefit.
Allah's mercy be upon you."
Bedou
26-06-2004, 04:26
A generous offer has been made by Burkina Faso.
Bedouins will begin moving from Bedou proper through other Bedou territories on to Burkina Faso.
This is a great day, Another muslim nation welcomes home the Bedou.
Bedou
27-06-2004, 06:00
The Ashtan Council has arrived in Burkina Faso and is preparing to make the Tranference of Power so that the Bedou may begin the reforms agreed upon to begin reducing the trade of illegal narcotics in Burkina Faso.
This will be the first action taken by the new Bedou Faso government.
Bedou
26-12-2004, 08:44
Bump.
Lacadaemon
26-12-2004, 09:05
Lacadaemon offers all refugees a guarantee of immeadiate citizenship in the Dominion.

The only condtion is that all refugees must enter through the Laconia Processing center, where they will spend one to two weeks being oriented to Lacadeamon society.

At the conclusion of said processing they will be released with full citizenship, with the option to earn voting rights if they so choose.


Our only caveat is that once Citizens of Lacadaemon, all previous citizenship must be relinquished, and their parent nation will have no further interest.

- High Archon Solon.
Bedou
26-12-2004, 16:39
OOC:
Your Conditions sort of defeat the whole mingling of nations thing I am going for.
If you read the entire thread you would see that I also can not comply.
Also they are not really refugees- Bedou maintain a Nomadic Lifestyle which requires a large amount of space.
So the Bedou colonize inhospitable regions of countries, contribute to national defense and foster trade with Bedou proper, and cultural diversity.
Thanks for posting though.