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Rechambered 12.7 mm M-16
http://www.webmutants.com/strategypage/m1650.jpg
Specs:
Caliber: 12.7mm(.50 caliber)
Weight: 6.3 pounds unloaded. Each round weighs 1.1 rounds.
Length: 36.2 inches
The new 12.7mm M-16 was designed for special forces and law enforcement officers against re-enforced structures, vehicles, and advanced body armor. The mini-.50 round(a regular .50 inside a shortened casing and with less powder allowing for lower recoil) punches right through armored glass that resists 7.62mm fire, as do doors, locks, cinder blocks, and engine blocks. Since the rifle is only slightly longer and heavier than a 5.56mm design, it can be used in close range combat and other rapid fire encounters.
The rifle also comes with a bipod and 100 round drum magazine, allowing it to be used as a lightwieght squad automatic weapon that is more easily portable than most current light machine guns including the M-60 and SAW.


Cost: 2,500 dollars per unit(Bipod and drum magazines included)

"Kilean general associates" - a company widely known to be a front for the Kilean Internal Security Directorate- files an order for 8,000 of the specialist weapons.

If this is only slightly heavier and larger than the M-16 rifle, and it is automatic, how can anyone control it in firing?

If this is only slightly heavier and larger than the M-16 rifle, and it is automatic, how can anyone control it in firing?

I don't think you fire it on automatic....or at least the ISD won't. It seems like a great tool to screw up cars and punch through walls, though.

If this is only slightly heavier and larger than the M-16 rifle, and it is automatic, how can anyone control it in firing?
Automatic while standing? No it would be hard to control, however with the bipod; short, controled, bursts of automatic fire are possible.

Are production rights available?

"Kilean general associates" - a company widely known to be a front for the Kilean Internal Security Directorate- files an order for 8,000 of the specialist weapons.

20,000,000 total confirmed.

Weapons are en route.

The Schultarian Defense Forces are looking to update and improve their arsenal. We have decided to purchase 54,000 units to outfit the 5 Divisions of the Schultarian Special Operations Unit for testing. If the weapons proves a success, you may expect large orders from us in the future. We will pay the $135,000,000 immediately upon arrival.

OOC:Sorry to be a nitpick, but the Leitner-Wise Rifle Company's rechambered M-16 pictured is chambered in .499 LWR. Not 12.7mm.

But nice to see someone else embracing the concept.

(The Mini ".50" is used here in Designated Marksmen Rifles for closer range engagements against armored targets.)

The Schultarian Defense Forces are looking to update and improve their arsenal. We have decided to purchase 54,000 units to outfit the 5 Divisions of the Schultarian Special Operations Unit for testing. If the weapons proves a success, you may expect large orders from us in the future. We will pay the $135,000,000 immediately upon arrival.
Confirmed.

-It appears that our nation has taken an affinity to this particular adaptation of this weapon, and we would like to formally adopt it as our primary light machine gun. We are willing to discuss possible terms for an arms production contract in the near future if you are so interested.

Why dont you just use .50 AE?

OOC: .50 AE is a pistol round, it has a flat head and isn't designed to go through armor. I'm guessing this round falls somewhere between these:
http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/201_individual_weapons/image/50ae_01.jpghttp://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/201_individual_weapons/image/127_99_01.jpg

Or a Barret .50 anti-tank rifle could do the trick ;)


I assume you would fire it in bursts, not automatically as a .50. Unless you have a tripod or bipod that is.

.50 AE would allow for full auto, and more clip size...

.50 AE would allow for full auto, and more clip size...
OOC:Less hitting power. I doubt .50 AE will penentrate armor that will stop 7.62mm NATO. And less accuracy. .50 AE might work in a submachinegun, but not as a rifle or LMG.

ill take like 2million
cheers
money wired

Calnah will order 5,000 for police work.

Cordially,

Bennet Lanna Alekson,

Overseer of security and defense

OOC: To help clear things up, the weapon pictured actually does fire a short .50 round, I just thought it was a really great idea

IC:
Schultaria Prime-We would be interested in selling production rights, name your starting price.

Papacy iv-2,000,000,000 weapons enroute for a total of 5 ,000, 000, 000

Calnah-5,000 weapons en route for a total of 12,500,000

Praetonia wishes to buy 500 to equip the Praetonian Guard special forces division.

500 x 2500 = $1,250,000

edit: got price wrong

OOC: I am glad you said it was smaller than the normal 50 cal round.

If it was 50 BMG, it would blow you onto your a$$!

sorry to say to the Pope, your country couldn't afford that, its only 3 days old and that would take up 95% or so of your budget.

The SDF believes that a fair price for production rights would be the equivalent purchase of 2 million units of said weapon. That being said, the government of Schultaria Prime is willing to pay $5,000,000,000 to acquire production rights as soon a immediately possible.

.50 AE is like 12.7x25mm... If it wasnt able to penetrate body armour, it would sure knock the person down... And it would easily pop tires, break windows, etc... but hey, ur choice...

Nellisland wishes to purchase 50,000 for his Royal National Guard.

The total comes to $125,000,000.

Please telegram upon arrival and the money will be wired to you.

OOC:
the rifle in the image is as mentioned by New Empire designed for the .499 LWR round which is in turn a much modified .50AE.

the .50beowulf round is very similar to the .499LWR.

A simply shortened .50BMG won't work through an M16 lower receiver as the case is far far too wide (being roughly 25mm across almost exactly the same size as the M1019 25mm grenade rounds).

A round based on a lengthened .50AE would work very well and feed through a M16 lower receiver perfectly well and there are a number of them available includign the 2 already mnetioned and other insane rounds such as .458SOCOM "monster".

.50AE is actually even more powerful when used in rifles and has interesting effects on hardened targets like aircraft widescreens. it may not rip though Lvl3 body armor but it will still kill if it hits due to the massive blunt trauma (yet another fairly massive "mistake" from Charlie's Angels 2).

Exham my appologies i just had to clear a few things, of course now i will need to hunt you down for using that image...

my goverment wishes to purchase the following, we have proof of funds if needed!!...

Rechambered 12.7 mm M-16
@ 2,500 each x 400,000 = 1,000,000,000 (1billion)

please send us a confirmation tele. so u can be paid asap, thanx

my goverment wishes to purchase the following, we have proof of funds if needed!!...

Rechambered 12.7 mm M-16
@ 2,500 each x 400,000 = 1,000,000,000 (1billion)

please send us a confirmation tele. so u can be paid asap, thanx

The Nation of Salek-Ra will take 5000 of the selected weapon. It will be used as the designated weapon of the elite special forces.

10,000*$5000=$25,000,000

Money will be wired upon confirmation.

CONFIRMED:
Praetonia, 500 units delivered for a cost of $1,250,000
Salek-Ra, 5000 units delivered for a cost of 25,000,000
Nellisland, 50,000 units delivered for a cost of 125,000,000
Asmodai and Buddah, 400,000 units delivered for a cost of 1,000,000,000

Schultaria Prime, production rights will be sold for 5,000,000,000

New Manifoldia also wishes to purchase production rights to this weapon.

Money will be wired on delivery of prototypes and blueprints.

New Manifoldia also wishes to purchase production rights to this weapon.

Money will be wired on delivery of prototypes and blueprints.
Confirmed: 5,000,000,000 for production rightd

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Exham, check TG.

The gun comes in four colors for your convienience:
Black
Raven
Midnight
Jet-Black

I would like to buy 5000. Money will be wired on conformation.

Ok your not going to be able to fire the standard .50 Browning (12.7 x 99mm) bullet on either rapid or burst automatic fire. If you did, you would need some kind of extra special anti-recoil system which would drastically change the external look of the gun.

Using the .50 Action Express round in either a submachine gun or assualt rifle would not be in the least bit practical, as the barrel would have to be heavy and the rate of fire extremely slow.