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Credonia News Network 4-24-2004 6:18 CST

In a move to assist close Concordia ally Camewot, Emperor Sutton has ordered the mobilization of the Credonian 23rd Marine Infantry Division and the 40th Carrier Division, to immediately move into the country to secure occupied cities. Intelligence souces state that an estimated 500 troops are occupying what is being called "the burning city" at this time. These troops are said to be from 3 nations within the R.I.A. alliance. Credonian troops are expected to imediately move into the area and expel the occupying forces by means of armed force if diplomacy cannot be used to an advantage. Stay tuned for updates on this latest development


OOC:
Credonian 23rd Marine Infantry Division
45,000 Marines
75 M1A1 Abrams Battle Tanks
30 KS1 SAM's
25 M103 Heavy Tanks
20 M113 APC's
20 M-270 MLRS Rocket Artilliary
25 M1A2 Abrams Tanks
15 G6 155MM Self Propelled Howitzer's
20 M2 Bradley APC's
50 M-15 Light Tanks
20 HAWK ARSAM
20 Patriot Missile System
50 T-95UM Heavy Tanks
50 M-26 Main Battle Tank
50 PzH 2000 (Panzerhaubitze 2000) 155mm Howitzers

40th Carrier Division
2 Wasp Class Amphibeous Assult Carrier
2 Rommel Class Battleships
2 Manstein Class Destroyers
5 Oliver Hazard Perry Class Frigates
3 Seydlitz Class Cruiser
4 EM-220 Tigershark Class diesel electric submarine

USIH defence department officials are watching the situation carefully. {tag}

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RNN:
In breaking news, Raginsheep's High Command has ordered the **17th Airborne Division, 2nd Squadron of **4444th Stragetic Lift and **2nd Stragetic Carrier Taskforce to deploy to Comewot inorder to assist Comewot and Credonia against forces currently occpuying Comewot.

**17th Airborne Division
150 AH-64 Apache --
50 RT-1A Black Thunder MBT --
300 High Mobility Multipurpose Wheeled Vehicle (HMMWV)--
50 120mm Howitzer --
100 L1A1 Storm Super Light Air Dropped Tank (SLADT) --
7000 Paratroopers --
300 MH/UH-60L Black Hawk --
2 Boeing 767 Air Drop Aircraft --
10 OH-58 Kiowa --
20 AH-6J Little Bird --
20 MH-6 Little Bird --


**2nd Stragetic Carrier Taskforce
1 Nimitz Class Aircraft Carrier --
15 F-14 Tomcat --
15 F/A-18 Hornet --
15 F-34 Black Kinghts V/STOL Multi-Roled Carrier Attack Aircraft (VMCAA) --
10 NH-56 Sea Tiger Anti-Submarine/Suface Warfare Helicopters (AS2WH) --
3 E-2C Hawkeye --
5 EA-6B Prowler --
3 CH-46 Seakings
1 Kilauea Class Ammunition Ship --
1 Kaiser Class Oiler Ship --
1 Mercy Class Hospital Ship --
2 Arleigh Burke Guided Missile AEGIS Destroyer --
2 DD-963 SPRUANCE-class Destroyers --
2 FFG-7 Oliver Hazard Perry Guided Missile Frigates --
1 SSN-688 Los Angeles-class Submarine--

2nd Squadron of **4444th Stragetic Lift
10 CH-47 Chinook --
5 C-130 Hercules --
2 C-17 Globemaster III --

We strongly oppse this move. ALthough we were one of the nations to beat of the RIA in the cities, and win the war, this is a move that will distabilise the alrady fragile peace process. Please reconsider.

Although it may be "destablising", the sitution is already unstable enough.

So you think sending in a force that size will make it anymore stable? Considering your opponents are just 500 strong, and are already countered by 500 CCIA troops, I'd say the situation is very stable. This doesn't concern you in anyway, you weren't involved before or during the conflict, theres no reason to be now.

BC...back off a bit, he ASKED us for help..check out the original thread

I know he asked you! He asked me about a week ago, but I refused, nothing good will come out of this.

Allow me to explain the current situation. There is no war in Camewot. He has agreed to a peace treaty. Those troops are little more than security guards to guard our docks and embassies.
The situation has been completely stable for years.
There is a hostage situation in a warehouse in the twin cities. Perhaps your excessively large force could be better spent removing them?

Secret IC to Credonia, BC, Momanguise, Concordia and to any other nation willing to beat imperialist scumbags:

I cant longer keep the 500 Imperial Troops in the Burning City....
I want them out, not a big problem defeating 500 troops in my own country BUT if they come back I need help to defend myself against imperialists and possibly invade a few....
I will attack the troops in my country this week, I ASK FOR YOURE SUPPORT with economical and military support!
Thank you,
The government of Camewot

Notice that he asked us for help and security. However, in order to not inflame the situation, we would station the AB division 2km from the city.

We've talked about this situation thoroughly (via MSN) and this is his call. I gave him a few options but he wanted it this way. Dont complain to me about my actions when hes the one who asked me to do it. I will support my ally as best as i can, and since i will be in his nation, i will respect his wishes.

Fine, but if 1 of my 200 troops there get so much as a graze from any side, the RIA or you, I will go mental. I also am going to break all relations with the nation of Camewot, I thought you had the sense to let peace carry on, I guess I was wrong.

(Consider this what I am doing at this moment.
**** ***$£^%$ *£"$" piece of ^%%£"$)
Since you used the quote as proof I assume that you meant me to see that he plans to invade us. Don't bother.

You didn't explain the situation fully, and it looks like you have just remembered the war and turned up. Now that I know that Camewot is behind it..

Why do we want the rest of his Country? What would the possible gain be?
He has also said that he will attack this week.

I hope that you do not support his warmongering, if he plans to invade one of our nations.

Also, I hope that you notice his dishonesty. This will be the 3rd treaty concerning us that he has actively broken, in order to get a better deal.

Note that I am not actually raising troops alert status because of the transmission, but because of the 45,000 troops on their way.
I noticed the secret I.C. You can consider the above response semi-OOC

I dont plan to invade anywhere. If i were, i would be organizing a MUCH larger group of divisions, not just 45,000 troops. Secondly, i said they were goin gto Camewot. Were expeling your forces and keeping them there so that you dont try to invade him again. Watch your assumptions thats how you escalate already unstable situations.

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I can't speak for Credonia but any attempts by Comewot to use my forces as a shield so that he can attack anyone else will result in extreme force against Comewot.

I can't speak for Credonia but any attempts by Comewot to use my forces as a shield so that he can attack anyone else will result in extreme force against Comewot.

One. No members of the current RIA have tried to invade Camewot.
If you expel our forces, who will look after our interests in Camewot.
Why do you assume that we will invade Camewot again. That is the only reason to deploy 45,000 troops against our 500.
Also, I am acting commander of the RIA, whilst our leader is gone. I speak for us all, so any threats you have recieved are not official, or will lead to any attack.

Would you want foreign forces roaming around in your nation, powerless to do anything about it? NO. If you want to protect your so called interests, it would be in your best interests to pull them out. Having them there in the first place will only lead to more chaos. If forces happen to clash, your going to be in some deep stuff and thats something we dont want. Credonia is not looking into a war right now (considering the emperor would rather devote his time to his wedding and his alliance) however, we must look out for our ally. If you dont want any trouble, call your allies troops OUT of Camewot and I can guarantee that your "interests" will not be harmed so long as those interests dont conflict with the sovreignty of the nation or affect the native citisens in any way.

We must stress that Camewot singed a treaty agreeing to the presence of these troops under international law it is very legal for their presence. Camewot is attempting to break yet another treaty. Did you know he is the one who broke the first peace agreement which understandably ignited more war. I ask that Credonia re-thinks its position as the R.I.A is acting under international law.

Thank you for letting me know of this. Credonian military forces will remain mobilized and will being traveling to Camewot but will not disembark from the ships until we investiage this claim further, unless you can provide undeniable proof of this allegation.

Thank you for letting me know of this. Credonian military forces will remain mobilized and will being traveling to Camewot but will not disembark from the ships until we investiage this claim further, unless you can provide undeniable proof of this allegation.

If you read the three threads posted, you will see that the war was started by an ex-member, Midlonia. We took the burning city, and Camewot asked for a ceace-fire. We accepted. During this time Camewot assembled allies, and declared war on us, blatently using the cease fire not for peace, but to have time for a counter-attack. He then lost more land about the burning city.

During this time he gathered more allies to his cause, and his closest ally, M+A, declared war on us again. We then took up to the twin city, until all his allies arrive, and push us back to the burning city. We sign a cease fire, under the proviso that we maintain 1500 troops at the city.

Camewot agrees, but when he realises that his allies still support him, ignores the terms which he agreed to, and imposes, along with BC, a 500 troop rule. Nothing has happened since then, until, with no warning or anything, he plans to break a cease-fire, re-ignite the whole conflict, to push us out of the tiny territory we still possess. 1 dock and an embassy.
That is the situation.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138368&start=60&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

thats the peace talks thread

Just out of intrest, why do you maintain your grip over Burning City? It presents you with no economic/military advantages.

Grip? The burning city is not in our control. The port is. As are our embassies.

Very well..we see the situatiuon now. Legally, that is your territory, therefore you may have troops there, so long as they dont step onto Camewotian soil. My forces will take defensive positions and remain outside of Camewot to observe the situatuation.

Awaiting a response from Camewot

First, I attacked the second time cause my people were being mistreated.
Second, when we agreed to 1500 troops we were about peace BEFORE the actual peace talks began!
Third, the third time Muggles and Animals attacked the RIA troughout Camewots soil, there were no intentions from me to attack though the relations then were highly forced. Muggles attacked and if I wanted or not I HAD TO FIGHT WITH MUGGLES CAUSE IF I DIDENT THE RIA WOULD GET MY WHOLE COUNTRY CAUSE ONCE MUGGLES GOT INTO BURNING CITY THEY FLEED.

Want any other explanation?

Ok, well heres my proposal, Credonia will take no aggressive military actions against the RIA. Instead, we will be moving 500 of our troops into the buring city to balance the power there, the rest of the troops will be based somewhere in Camewot (where is up to you cam). Now, i understand peace talks are already going on somewhere, but they are going no where. What i propose is that ALL involved parties meet in Credonia for one FINAL peace talk to end this whole situation. Camewot has already expressed his approval of such a meeting, so really its on the RIA. Im sure you want to get this over just as quickly as I do, so let this conference in Credonia City, Credonia be the defining moment, the moment when all hostilities ended, and when peace and tranquility prevail. If the RIA wants a resolution to this crisis, then you will agree to come. If you turn it down, it will only show that you are not in it for peace, bue for destruction.

Secret IC to Credonia:
I have two proposals for you to bring youre military in:

1.Build a base next to Mafikengs one
2. Put up camps outside the Burning City

Secret IC to Camewot:

Very well, i will do both, but for now i will just move 500 of my troops into the burning city and establish a base next to Mafikengs. I dot want to make it seem as if Im going to attack them, which I do not plan to do unless necessary.

IC:
Credonian 500 special forces soldiers begin making their way into Camewot, heading towards The Burning City. The other dispatched forces head towards Mafikengs's base in the national capital. They hope that nobattles will break out, with tensions running high in the air.

Raginsheep News Network:
In the interests of promoting stablilty, Raginsheep's governmet has decided to withdraw all of its forces from Camewot. Inside sources have reported that the president has been furious at a number of his advisors over the waste of time and money in deploying soldiers where they wern't really needed.

That is TOTALLY unacceptable, you can't go around breaking peace treaties you have nothing to do with to satisfy your imperialism Credonia. The RIA troops are no threat to Camewot, my troops are making sure of that. Its totally against international law to break peace treaties for the gain of you putting troops in someones country.

As long as we dont shoot at each other, nobody breaks a treaty.
Thats still my territory, if I wanna put troops there I will and you cant do nothing about the other troops who are stationed next to Mafikeng.

Well Credonia moving troops to an area where we agreed only a specific number from certain nations would be is breaking a treaty. No, I won't do anything, but as you've broken the treaty, the RIA can now invade you.

Well Credonia moving troops to an area where we agreed only a specific number from certain nations would be is breaking a treaty. No, I won't do anything, but as you've broken the treaty, the RIA can now invade you.

Well Credonia moving troops to an area where we agreed only a specific number from certain nations would be is breaking a treaty. No, I won't do anything, but as you've broken the treaty, the RIA can now invade you.

Well Credonia moving troops to an area where we agreed only a specific number from certain nations would be is breaking a treaty. No, I won't do anything, but as you've broken the treaty, the RIA can now invade you.

If it's not Credonia's treaty then he's not really breaking it, however Camewot may be breaking the treaty by allowing Credonia to position forces in his nation...

To be honest I don't really care how the treaty was broken, it's not something that concerns me, but I will be clear one point.

If you or the RIA invade Credonia using this pissant excuse we will make a point of reinforcing Credonia's forces with our own highly capable military. As a precaution we are now mobilising a small number of forces in preparation for any aggression shown to our ally. They are not going to be deployed unless we feel there is a threat to Credonia that needs our immediate attention.

We shall be watching this situation carefully.

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You honestly think we're stupid enough to attack Credonia?

You honestly think we're stupid enough to attack Credonia?

It's probably a good thing I'm not going to answer that. I felt that concidering the aggression shown towards shown towards Credonia it needed to be said in confidence... there was no point in mentioning the fact you can invade Credonia over this if you aren't prepared to do so. So we reacted as though you meant it, we will keep our forces mobilised for the time being none the less.

Ok then, the treaty is broken.
Then I geuss its time for the RIA soldiers to leave.

That is TOTALLY unacceptable, you can't go around breaking peace treaties you have nothing to do with to satisfy your imperialism Credonia. The RIA troops are no threat to Camewot, my troops are making sure of that. Its totally against international law to break peace treaties for the gain of you putting troops in someones country.

OOC: How is protecting an ally imperialism?

Ok then, the treaty is broken.
Then I geuss its time for the RIA soldiers to leave.

The treaty was broken by you, the RIA can invade you.

OOC: How is protecting an ally imperialism?

He was more than protected by the presence of CCIA troops who were stationed there. Thers no reason for you to be there. Thousands of my people gave their lifes to protect Camewot, he's now going back on their sacrifice, and a lawful peace-treaty and could create another war.

Is the RIA aware of the broken treaty?

They will be when I tell them.

I have just spoken with Camewot via MSN and an agreement has been reached. Credonian forces as well as Camewotian forces will stand down, effective immediately. RIA forces may remain to protect their assets. I have made it clear that if Camewot breaks another treaty or fires upon RIA forces, Credonia will pull all troops from Camewot (we've established a base near the capital) and we will maintain our neutral stance in this situation. Also, as of this moment, Credonia is at a neutral stance due to better relations between Credonia and the RIA coming about.

In that case, to honour our original agreement with Camewot, we'd like to move 200 troops back, which we sent home when this started. We would also like to start relations between our 2 great nations again.

If the RIA hears that the treaty is broken, they will surely attack what are you gonna do then?

They won't attack with Credonia there. Also they know not to take the CCIA lightly after we kicked their asses in the twin cities :wink:

Then we can start relations again, and bring the 200 troops in!

The troops will be arriving in a few NS days. Your embassy has been re-opened, and the ex staff will be welcomed back.

We've known about this for a long time.
No attack plans have been drawn up yet, and believe me, if we were going to attack you again, we would already have the plans. You can take that as some kind of indication at our non-hostility towards you.
(OOC: G'wah? The CCIA seems to be powerful, but make no mistake, it was that genius attack, along with general dissaray, that caused our embarrasing loss. I was talking about Moman's.)

Jordaxia, we are asking you nicely to leave...
You're dock and embassy can be protected by my people to, if you want we can sign a document about that...

I'm afraid that the deal is unnacceptable.

Well, since the treaty is broken I geuss you should leave...

The treaty was broken by you, and concerns you. Not us. Therefore there will be no change in the official RIA stance towards this.

I dont think you quite understand.
The treaty is broken = you cant stay anymore!

I dont think you quite understand.
The treaty is broken = you cant stay anymore!

Actually as you broke the treaty, the RIA can invade and it wouldn't be illegal. They won't though.

I don't think you understand. The treaty was broken by you. We are doing you a favour by not pursueing this matter any further.

Meh, ok then....
As the treaty is broken I might decide to put some reinforcement in the Burning City...
I'll inform you...

(OOC: You are so lucky I didn't read this when I was mad with power.(earlier today)
It would have been bad news for everyone.)
We are glad that another senseless, unprofitable, war has been averted.