NationStates Jolt Archive


Massive Tank contract up for grabs

The South Islands
24-04-2004, 16:33
The South Islands Army and Marine Corps is looking to retire the aging tank fleet that is currently in use. As none of our domestic arms manufacturers have submitted satisfactory blueprints, we have decided to open up to the international arms manufacturers.

The winner of this competition is looking at a contract for 15,000-20,000 armored vehicles.

Any and all models are permitted.

Please eather post your desighns here or TG them to me.

(OOC: please keep your desighns modern tech)
IDF
24-04-2004, 16:37
We have a new M1A3 Abrams we developed. I will get details to you tonight, we are still working on the design.
Chellis
24-04-2004, 16:45
Chellis is willing to provide you with 15,000-20,000 armoured vehicles, but we need to know what you want, as in numbers for Main Battle Tanks, Light tanks, artillery, Recon(Jeeps), Armoured Personel carriers, etc. It can vary alot for different nations militaries whether you have alot of MBT's, or APCs, or what.
The South Islands
24-04-2004, 16:53
Yes, my apoligies for forgetting to provide this information. We are looking for about 15,000 Main Battle Tanks, with a possible side contract for up to 5,000 Light Tanks, depending on how much we like the desighn.

We are set for the Self-propelled guns and APCs.
New bisons
24-04-2004, 17:14
Tank-
GT-1 Main Battle Tank (G stands for Gromilla, which is russian for brutal desctructive beast T stands for tank)

The GT-1 is a further development of the T-80UM5, featuring improvements in mobility, protection, armament, fire control, and a new navigation system (in the GT-1K command version).

The GT-1 armament includes an electro-thermal 135mm gun, stabilized in two axes and fitted with a thermal sleeve. It hits with the force of a 155mm gun, and can destroy an M1A2 at 4km with Free Rumanian quad-charged HEAT shells. The gun tube can be replaced without dismantling inside the turret. The gun can fire a variety of ammunition including APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot), HEAT (High Explosive Anti-Tank), HE-FRAG (High Explosive Fragmentation) as well as shrapnel projectiles with time fuses.

The 135mm gun can also fire the AT-17 Slicer anti-tank guided missile system. The range of the missile is 100 - 6,000 m and takes 14.7 sec to reach maximum range. The system is intended to engage tanks fitted with ERA (Explosive Reactive Armour) as well as low-flying air targets such as helicopters, at a range of up to 7 km. The missile system fires either the 9M119 or 9M119M missiles which have semi-automatic laser beamriding guidance and a hollow charge warhead. Missile weight is 28.4 kg. The guns 15 rpm automatic loader will feed both ordnance and missiles.

A 45mm 2A77 autocannon has been installed to allow quick engagement of other armored fighting vehicles. Ammunition load is 470 AP (Armour-Piercing) or HE rounds. Rate of fire is more than 300 rounds/min and range is 1,500 to 2,200m.

There are 12 Yastreb ATGM's towards the rear of the turret. Yastreb is a radar guided ATGM with a range of over 5km that easily penetrates the amror of the M1A2 or similar tanks with its 1300mm penetration.

Also fitted is a coaxial 7.62 mm PKT machine gun and a 12.7 mm air defense machine gun. A 5.45 mm A-91M assault rifle is carried on a storage rack.

Armor:

Protection of the GT-1 includes an outer layer of Montgomery titanium armor. The GT-1 tank is protected by the new Igolka Nonexplosive Reactive Armor (NERA) technology, with 2 layers frontally. NERA technology is an improvement over the previous Kaktus ERA technology, with the ability to be buried several layers deep in the armor. Also, when they "go off", they only use the reactive material in the immediate vicinity of the actual penetration rather than a whole "box". Finally, there is a layer of Tungsten.

The GT-1 is fitted with the Cerberus missile engagement system. This system includes infrared jammer, laser blinder, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerized control system.
It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

The Bisonic Cerberus system also features the ARENA system, the first available DAS-system, was analysed by TNO-PML in collaboration with TNO-FEL. This systems detects an incoming anti-tank missile and reacts by throwing a cassette containing explosives and fragments towards the missile. Upon detonation of the cassette, the fragments interact with the missile, such that its effectiveness decreases substantially.

Both testings of the effectiveness of the fragments and computer simulation of the suite of events- detection, intercept and residual penetration capability- were performed. This resulted in an assessment of the increased survivability of the vehicle equipped with ARENA. The same analyses also gave an idea of the decrease of performance of the anti-tank missile.

The Arena system is switched on/off from the commander's control console. Once Arena is switched on, all subsequent operations are performed automatically. Apart from the basic automatic mode of operation, exceptionally, the commander can control the system manually, for example, when it is necessary to destroy obstacles or for close-in protection against infantry.

Arena provides protection for a moving or stationary tank in any weather and in any combat environment, irrespective of the angle of impact of the enemy's weapons. The data-processing radars and sights feature a high level of noise immunity. They do not respond to false and random signals, and come into action only in situations where there is a serious threat to the tank or when a weapon fired by the enemy is heading directly towards the tank.



It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

Propulsion:
The G-1 has a 1440 hp turbocharged engine. This engine can be fuelled by T-2 or TS-1 kerosene and A-72 benzine, in addition to diesel. The tank can carry up to 1,600 litres of fuel in the main fuel tanks and fuel drums. The fuel tanks are reinforced with armor plating.
The tank is provided with a snorkel for deep fording and can ford 5 metres of water with equipment which can be deployed in 20 minutes.
The mechanical transmission includes primary reduction gear, two planetary final gearboxes and two planetary final drives. The running gear features torsion bar suspension with hydraulic shock absorbers at 1, 2 and 6 road wheel stations and tracks with rubber-metallic pin hinges.

Fire Control:
The GT-1 is fitted with the 1A5GT fire control system.

The 1A5GT fire control system includes:
- The gunner's 1A43 day fire control system
- A laser range finder
- The driver's TVN-5 infrared night viewer
- A second-generation television sight and automatic thermal target tracker
- An integrated operating system which includes advanced data communications and battle management
- Millimeter wave radar
- Infrared tracking system

The computer controlled fire control system includes line of sight stabilisation in two axes, a second-generation television sight and automatic thermal target tracker, a laser range finder, an improved thermal night vision system and a dynamic cant angle indicator. The commander's station is fitted with a stabilised panoramic day and night sight. The integrated operating system includes advanced data communications and battle management. Tadiran developed the G-1's communications system, the inter communication system and the VRC 120 vehicular transceiver radio with embedded auxiliary receivers.

Signature Reduction:
Protective systems for reduction of tank signatures are designed for reducing the range and probability of the tank detection by reconnaissance equipment and homing devices of high precision ammunitions.

Measures of making the tank less prone to be detected allow the following:

to reduce the tank thermal signature by 5-7 times;
to reduce the tank radar signature by 3-5 times;
to reduce the tank visual signature by 1.5 times

Navigation:
The GT-1 is fitted with the LIO-N navigation system.

The navigation system is included into the tank control system and serves to automate the fulfilment of interaction between tanks within a tank unit in order to command its manoeuvres. Installation of the LIO-N system in the tank ensures the following:

determining the tank's own coordinates with the help of two satellite systems: GPS NAVSTAR and GLONASS;
collecting (with the help of the standard radio set) information about the location of the subordinate tanks and displaying this information on the screen;
generating, transmitting, receiving and displaying the text information (the information is input with the help of a keyboard and is transmitted through a digital radio channel by using the standard radio set);
storing and processing the pre-determined routes;
providing the driver with information about the movement direction required in order to reach the next route check-point.
Technical characteristics:
accuracy (standard deviation) of determining the tank location coordinates when using the systems:
NAVSTAR - 40 m;
GLONASS - 30 m;
NAVSTAR/GLONASS - 20 m;
number of routes that can be pre-determined - up to 10;
number of check-points in each routes - up to 50;
collection of information about the location of subordinate tanks, transmission of the coordinates of destination points and text information are ensured in military units up to tank battalion level inclusively;
time of transmission and reception of information in the digital radio channel and the communications coverage distance are determined by the characteristics of the standard communications means (for R-173M radio set - within 1 sec at distances of up to 20 km);
accuracy of presenting the current time (with allowance for the time zone) - 1 sec;
readiness time:
at 'cold' start - within 180 sec;
at 'hot' start - within 15 sec;
built-in test systems are available

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The GT-1 Prototype
http://www.digikitten.com/playhousev2/files/bison24/GT-1.jpg
GT-1 tanks on excercise
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Crossing a river
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The LIO-N navigation system
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Side skirts covering the running gear
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Power pack compartment top deck ventilation
http://www.morozov.com.ua/images/addzam1.jpg
Thermal insulation of power pack compartment top deck
http://www.morozov.com.ua/images/addzam2.jpg
Thermal sleeve of the barrel

A GT-1 costs $7 mil, $6.5 mil for TGP, NCA, or TGB members.
Chellis
24-04-2004, 17:14
Its hard to believe you can afford so many tanks, but we will offer it. We will sell you 15,000 LeClerc MBT's(With 5 full sets of ammunition for each tank as well as production plans for the ammunition) for $90,000,000,000($90 billion), and we can bring that down as far as $9b over ten years payment, or other plans can be made for prolongned payment.

Same deal, with AMX 10RC Light tanks, 5000 for $18.5 billion dollars.
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 17:23
The GT-1 is vastly superior to the Leclerc, and the AMX-10RC isnt a light tank but a recce vehicle.

Here is a light tank for you

The Bisonic Defense Initiatives Agency (BDIA) has announced the development of the Sprut-SDM "self-proppeled fire support system" (read: tank). It is protected from 40mm rounds and is equipped with the Shtora-2 and ARENA coiuntermeasure systems. It can easily destroy an abrams at range, albeit the same is true vice versa. $3 mil each.

http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack/bravo/bmd3_series/2s25/2s25_001.jpg
Nowadays, a trend has appeared in the development of world s armor materiel: to install powerful armament with highly effective sighting equipment on lightweight combat vehicles.


The Sprut-SDM complies with this trend. It is intended for use by subunits of ground forces, airborne troops and amphibious landing parties to fight hard-skinned materiel and manpower of the enemy.

The new gun can independently march over a distance of 500 km and be carried by military transport aircraft and amphibious ships, paradropped with the crew seated in the vehicle, negotiate water obstacles at sea state up to 3 with the delivery of gun fire when afloat within a sector of 35o and climb on amphibious ships from water under its own power during the accomplishment of a combat mission. Possessing a high power-to-weight ratio, it can operate in high mountains and various climates, while the installed rubber-clad shoes or snow-riding tracks expand the vehicle capabilities.



The main armament comprises the 135mm two-axis stabilized tank gun with automatic loader and the coaxial 7.62mm machine gun, it can kill leclerc from several km away with scramjet round or gun fired missile.

Sprut-SDM is armed with 8 Yastreb anti-armor missiles, carried towards the back of the turret.

The Yastreb is a new supersonic 6.5 km range missile which is guided to the target by millimeter wave radar. As it nears its target, it receives an update from the tank to ensure accuracy. It is capable of engaging tanks with the latest Kaktus ERA, as well as low flying targets such as helicopters, at ranges of up to 6,500 m. Penetration behind RHA is 1400mm.

The work stations of the gunner and commander are practically similar in terms of battlefield surveillance, aiming and fire delivery. The gunner s sighting equipment includes a night and a day sight with an electronic digital ballistic computer and a laser range finder whose field of view is stabilized in elevation. The commander s day/night sight with a two-axis stabilized laser range finder also serves as a tracker to guide a missile launched through the gun barrel.

Sprut-SDM is fitted with the Shtora-2 defensive aids suite. This system includes infrared jammer, laser jammer, laser warning system with four laser warning receivers, grenade discharging system which produces an aerosol screen and a computerised control system.

It is also fitted with NBC (nuclear, biological and chemical) protection equipment.

Sprut-SDM is fitted with ARENA.

The Bisonic ARENA system, the first available DAS-system, was analysed by TNO-PML in collaboration with TNO-FEL. This systems detects an incoming anti-tank missile and reacts by throwing a cassette containing explosives and fragments towards the missile. Upon detonation of the cassette, the fragments interact with the missile, such that its effectiveness decreases substantially.

Both laboratory testing of the effectiveness of the fragments and computer simulation of the suite of events- detection, intercept and residual penetration capability- were performed. This resulted in an assessment of the increased survivability of the vehicle equipped with ARENA. The same analyses also gave an idea of the decrease of performance of the anti-tank missile.

The self-propelled gun has an individual hydropneumatic suspension that ensures a high accuracy of fire and makes it possible to change the ground clearance by 400 mm within six to seven seconds from the driver s station, which decreases the possibility of vehicle detection, especially on broken country or in shelter. The design features embodied in the vehicle as well as its weight margin make it possible to modernize the gun by installing a thermal sight or introducing a thermal channel in the gunner s sight and to increase the swimming capability and armoring by mounting apron armor or other systems of protection from guided weapons.

Sprut-SDM is fitted with the 1A5GT fire control system.

The 1A5GT fire control system includes:
- The gunner's 1A43 day fire control system
- A laser range finder
- The driver's TVN-5 infrared night viewer
- A second-generation television sight and automatic thermal target tracker
- An integrated operating system which includes advanced data communications and battle management
- Millimeter wave radar
- Infrared tracking system

Basic Characteristics Gross weight, t 18
Crew 3
Maximum speed, km/h:
- on roads
- in water 71
10
Cruising range, km 500
Armament:
- gun:135mm
- ammunition load (including autoloader), rds 38 (22)
projectiles APFSDS, HEAT, HEF, laser-guided missile
rate of fire, rds/min 15
- machine gun: 7.62mm
ammunition load, 7.62mm rds 2,000
Laying angles, deg:
- in azimuth 360
- in elevation from -5 to +15 (forward)
from -3 to +17 (backward)
Engine:
- type 2V06-2S
- power, kW (hp) 357 (510)
- specific power, kW/t (hp/t) 20 (28.4)
Transmission hydromechanical and hydrostatic
http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack/bravo/bmd3_series/2s25/2s25_002.jpg
http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack/bravo/bmd3_series/2s25/2s25_005.jpg
http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack/bravo/bmd3_series/2s25/2s25_003.jpg
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Chellis
24-04-2004, 18:00
Bisons, I and alot of people have ignored you for a long time, lol....

South islands, you might be ignored by people for using stuff you get from him just to warn you. I suggest buying from me, as the LeClerc is the best real life tank in service, and no one will ignore you for it.
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 18:08
Hardly anyone ignores my equipment (i.e., most people who ignore me, ignore me, but accept my equipment in others hands), and hardly anyone in II ignores me at all. Its the fantasy rpers and such who ignore me (i.e. the type of people who post 'OMFGZ MY UBERSHIP N00KZ J00 BUT I IGNORE N00KS J00 DED' just stretched out to 5 pages. Oh yeah and with the thought of every crewman added.).

Leclerc is far from the best, however for obvious reasons, it is one of the only tanks with reverse gears :lol:
Challenger 2
24-04-2004, 18:38
:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

Specification
Challenger 3A main battle tank [amphibious]
Crew: 4
Engine: 12 cylinder multi-fule V-8
Weight: 62 tonnes
Top speed: 65 km/h
Armour: Chobham
Filters: NBC
Range: 520 km

Upgrades: reduced thermal signature, new gunners sight,
improved engine, all new night and thermal image sights,
larger [missile capable] gun and extra ammo stowage

Armament: 125-mm rifled barrel gun [missile capable]
+ L94A2 chain gun + six smoke dischargers + 7.62 MG

I am also selling an new anti-tank/anti-ship hovercraft armed
with a millan compact turret capable of firing both Millan anti-tank
missiles and exocet anti-ship missiles, this is a very useful system
as it is fast light and powerful 8)

Price still to be fixed. :wink:
Challenger 2
24-04-2004, 18:38
:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!:

Specification
Challenger 3A main battle tank [amphibious]
Crew: 4
Engine: 12 cylinder multi-fule V-8
Weight: 62 tonnes
Top speed: 65 km/h
Armour: Chobham
Filters: NBC
Range: 520 km

Upgrades: reduced thermal signature, new gunners sight,
improved engine, all new night and thermal image sights,
larger [missile capable] gun and extra ammo stowage

Armament: 125-mm rifled barrel gun [missile capable]
+ L94A2 chain gun + six smoke dischargers + 7.62 MG

I am also selling an new anti-tank/anti-ship hovercraft armed
with a millan compact turret capable of firing both Millan anti-tank
missiles and exocet anti-ship missiles, this is a very useful system
as it is fast light and powerful 8)

Price still to be fixed. :wink:
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 18:41
The problem is it is rather slow (65 km/h), and the rifled gun is far less effective than a smoothbore 125mm gun. Also, the GT-1 has a 135mm gun.
Challenger 2
24-04-2004, 19:33
The problem is it is rather slow (65 km/h), and the rifled gun is far less effective than a smoothbore 125mm gun. Also, the GT-1 has a 135mm gun.

yes I'll admit that but the Chobham armour is far superior and the C 3A
has a way smaller thermal signature, along with better night sights and a multi-fule engine.

it depends on what you like, powerful, fast tanks easily spotted at night,with rubish armour and having to run on a certain type of fule

OR... powerful,slow,heavily armoured tanks,hard to spot at night
able to run on almost any fule with more ammo onboard.

as for reverse gear, u wouldnt see what u
were reversing into because of the turret

oops ! I killed half my troops...............oops another civilian squashed !

unless u had wing mirors...........increasing the chances of being spotted by night vision amongst other things :!: :!: :!:

Did u say RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!! :lol: :roll:

So your basicly selling rubish T-42's with a fancy name and fake stats !

:!: :!: :!: good luck :lol: :!: :!: :!: ha :!: :!: :!:
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 19:50
Chobham armor superior? Chobham is equal to Kontakt-5 ERA... which admittedly came into existance 5 years after chobham.

The GT-1 doesnt use russian armor, it uses german armor (the NxRA), british armor (the titanium), and well, tungsten, which is used by practically everyone.

The GT-1 has extensive insulation to reduce thermal signature, why dont you read my description first?

The GT-1 hardly has rubbish armor, in fact the challenger 3 couldnt penetrate it except at suicidal range. But the GT-1, could kill the Challenger 3 from 5 kilometers away.

The GT-1's armor is not by any means rubbish, get that into your head. Frontal armor would be soemwhere in the range of [equal to] 1600mm RHA. But chobham would only give yourself something like 900mm.
The Resi Corporation
24-04-2004, 19:51
Plasma Tank (http://members.cox.net/resicorp/plasmatank.htm)
http://67.18.37.14/135/37/upload/p139.jpg
Designation: Combat
Environment: Land/Sea
Armor Thickness: 3 in
Size: 7 ft x 35 ft x 10 ft
Armaments: Medium Plasma Cannon (primary), Four Small Plasma Cannons, Rifle ports
Top Speed: 700 mph
Max. Troop Capacity: 3 crew, 20 passengers
Specs: Using such technology as plasma batteries and hoverdynes, the Plasma Tank can cross any terrain, even water, with no need to lower its speed. All of its weapons are energy-based, removing the problems that recoil usually causes on hovering craft, and it has boosters like those found in Raven Units in its back, sides, and front, allowing to to compensate automatically for shell hits. As Plasma Tanks can even traverse water, they can engage foreign navies and completely obliterate them with their primary plasma cannons. On land, Plasma Tanks are ideal for punching a hole in enemy forces, or simply driving over them.
Cost: $50,000,000 each
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 19:52
And btw, russian tanks are better than british ones, get this into your head- T-72 isnt to be compared to Challenger, it was from the same time period as Chieftain, not challenger.
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 19:52
(OOC: please keep your desighns modern tech)
:roll: :roll: :roll:
The Resi Corporation
24-04-2004, 19:53
(OOC: please keep your desighns modern tech)Oh, ahem, I must've missed that. Oh well.
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 19:59
The problem is it is rather slow (65 km/h), and the rifled gun is far less effective than a smoothbore 125mm gun. Also, the GT-1 has a 135mm gun.

yes I'll admit that but the Chobham armour is far superior and the C 3A
has a way smaller thermal signature, along with better night sights and a multi-fule engine.
No, the heat signatures are even, if the GT-1's isnt smaller. Better sights? Nope, read the part about fire control. Armor superior? Hell no it isnt. Multi Fuel engine? Only good thing to come from this.

it depends on what you like, powerful, fast tanks easily spotted at night,with rubish armour and having to run on a certain type of fule
They do not have rubbish armor. Their armor is far better than chobham.

OR... powerful,slow,heavily armoured tanks,hard to spot at night
able to run on almost any fule with more ammo onboard.
You call a challenger heavily armored? Damn, then the GT-1 is superheavy armored. Simply the GT-1 uses more advanced armor, reducing weight.

as for reverse gear, u wouldnt see what u
were reversing into because of the turret
Wasnt about your tank, was about leclerc

oops ! I killed half my troops...............oops another civilian squashed !

unless u had wing mirors...........increasing the chances of being spotted by night vision amongst other things :!: :!: :!:

Did u say RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!! :lol: :roll:
Wont dignify this with a response, another idiot-american who thinks america is several centuries ahead of russia
So your basicly selling rubish T-42's with a fancy name and fake stats !
WTF is a T-42? I am basically selling very heavily modernized T-84's
:!: :!: :!: good luck :lol: :!: :!: :!: ha :!: :!: :!:
There we go...
Resistencia
24-04-2004, 20:01
Resistencia's military is willing to construct and sell you a fleet of battle tanks. We have sevral different tanks depending on your needs.

Here we will present you with our main battle tank the T-94. It is an excellent tank with great specification(see below). It has been in service for our military for only 3 years, but has shown excellent results in both field tests, and actual combat situations.

Crew: 4 (Commander, Gunner, Loader, & Driver)
Weight: 69.54 Tons
Forward Gun Length: 396.76 in.
Turret Height: 91.3 in.
Turret Width: 143.8 in.
Ground Clearance: 22 in.
Ground Pressure: 15.4 PSI
Obstacle Crossing: 54 in.
Vertical Trench: 11 Feet
Power Plant: AGT-1700 turbine engine
Power Rating: 1750 HP
Power to Weight Ratio: 25.16 hp/ton
Hydro Kinetic Transmission: 6 Speed Forward
2 Speed Reverse
Speed - Maximum: 55 mph (Governed)
Speed - Cross Country: 35 mph
Speed - 10% Slope: 27 mph
Speed - 60% Slope 8 mph
Acceleration (0-20 mph): 7.2 Seconds
Fuel Capacity: 505 gal
Cruising Range 375 Miles

www.hellas.org/military/ army/images/leo1-1.jpg

Though we are currently sending you information on this tank, we have many other tank models that can serve more specified purposes. If you would like information on these other models please contact us.

Dept. of War,
United Socialist States of Resistencia
24-04-2004, 20:09
Hardly anyone ignores my equipment (i.e., most people who ignore me, ignore me, but accept my equipment in others hands), and hardly anyone in II ignores me at all. Its the fantasy rpers and such who ignore me (i.e. the type of people who post 'OMFGZ MY UBERSHIP N00KZ J00 BUT I IGNORE N00KS J00 DED' just stretched out to 5 pages. Oh yeah and with the thought of every crewman added.).

Leclerc is far from the best, however for obvious reasons, it is one of the only tanks with reverse gears :lol:

OOC: You're a racist. I have always ignored you.
Kelonian States
24-04-2004, 20:12
Did u say RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!! :lol: :roll:

So your basicly selling rubish T-42's with a fancy name and fake stats !

:!: :!: :!: good luck :lol: :!: :!: :!: ha :!: :!: :!:

Ummm - those aren't pics of T-42s, they're T-84s - what'd you do, divide by two?
And there's nothing wrong with Russian hardware, I still use plenty of it in most departments of my army - the tradeoff of positives to negatives works well for me.
Also, not many people are going to take you seriously when you use *that* many emoticons in three lines - it does kinda undermine your credibility.
Independent Hitmen
24-04-2004, 20:14
Not to mention his sexuality
24-04-2004, 20:18
The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar is willing to sell significant quantities of military equipment to the nation of the South Islands.

Below are our several vehicles which we have for export:

T-99 "Saddam" MBT

Combat Weight: 54.1 tons
Crew: 4
Length, including main gun: 9.6 meters
Width: 3.6 meters
Height: 2.1 meters
Max Speed: 75km/h
Cruising Range: 550 km
Engine: Ukrainian 6TD-IQ (local modified Iraqi version) 1,350hp
Main Gun: 120mm smoothbore M256 35 rounds.
Secondary Gun: 7.62mm machinegun
Anti-Aircraft Gun: 12.7mm AA gun
Smoke Launchers: 12 smoke dischargers (6 on each side of turret)
Active Defense System: Drozd-2
Armor: Second Generation ERA
Fire Control System: Intervehicular Information System (IVIS), Commander's Independent Thermal Viewer (CITV), a Position/Navigation System (POS/NAV), an Improved Commander's Weapon Station (ICWS) and integration of the vehicle electronics system through the use of a dual redundant data (MILSTD 1553D) and utility bus architecture. Also has the 2nd Generation FLIR; Embedded Battle Command (EBC) command and control software; a Management System (TMS); and an Under Armor Auxiliary Power Unit (UAAPU). All of these are locally produced copies.
Misc.: NBC system, air conditioning.

This tank costs approximately $4,250,000.

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/T-90II-2.jpg


T-2004IQ Amphibious Assault Tank

Engine: 620hp diesel
Crew: 3 men
Length: 7.15 meters
Width: 3.2 meters
Ground Clearance: 0.4 meters
Weight: 15 metric tons
Max Range (Road): 500km
Max Speed (Road): 74km/h
Max Speed (Water): 18km/h
Main Gun: 85mm gun (w/ 45 rnds) and ability to fire AT-3 ATGM
Max Range (Main Gun): 1,250m non-moving, 700m (moving)
Secondary Gun: 7.62mm MG
Anti-Aircraft Gun: 12.7mm AA-MG
Armor: 35mm
Climb Slope: 38 degrees

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/images/type-63-dprk.gif

This AAT tank costs approximately $1,750,000.


BMP-IQ APC

Weight: 14,440 KG
Engine: FAMOS-10B003 450hp
Power: 236kw
On Road Speed: 70km/h
Off Road Speed: 50km/h
Amphibious Speed: 10km/h
Climb: 67%
Gun: 30mm Cannon
Machine Gun: PKT 7.62mm
AT Missile: 8 AT-3 missiles
Armor: Second Generation Kontakt-5 ERA armor. 45mm without ERA.

http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/m-80a1_1.jpg

This APC costs approximately $975,000.
Kelonian States
24-04-2004, 20:19
It's just the rest of his post has a lot of valid points, then he goes and puts that at the end - personally, if I scroll down and see CAPS, emoticon overload and exclamation marks, I'll just assume it's a flame and ignore it.
Soviet Haaregrad
24-04-2004, 20:50
Drats. My tank is hours away from being done...

Oh well, here's the stats as they stand:

T-118 Hussar

Primary Function: Main Battle Tank
Contractor: Kuznetsov Motor Carridge OKB
Power Plant: 1650hp gas turbine/electric powerplant
Length: 22'11" (7.0 meters)
Height: 7'(2.13 meters)
Width: 12'2" (3.72 meters)
Speed: Forward Onroad 51 mph (82kph)
Weight: 105 822lbs (48 000kg)
Range: 325 miles (525 km)
Armor:
>Turret: 940-960(1120-1300) mm
>Upper Front Turret: 510-540(1410-1520) mm
>Lower Front Hull: 720-750(1200) mm
>Glacis: 820(1480) mm
>Mantle: 720-740(960-1090) mm
Armament:
>Main Gun: 135mm liquid propellant smoothbore cannon
>Coaxial Cannon: 30mm
>Coaxial Machine Gun: 1 x 7.62mm
>Anti-Personnel Machine Guns: 1 x 7.62mm, 1 x 12.7mm
>Light Mortar: 60mm
>Optional Weapons: 2x 20mm cannons fitted to the turret sides
Unit cost: $ 8 500 000USD
Crew: 3
Notes:
-fitted with a crewless turret
-top machine guns can be fired from within the crew cabin
-fitted with Shtora-3 and ARENA mk.3 self defence system
-uses Mithral Armor System, cutting weight to 85% yet offering 115% the protection
-fitted with ultra-low maintenance treads, requiring 50% fewer hours of maintenance
-fitted with new and improved auto-loader, enabling a firing rate of 40 rounds per minute(limited to 3 round burst)
-carries all 40 rounds readied in three selectable magazines, 20, 10 and 10
-the engine is in the front, for all the reasons proven in the older Merkava tank

http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/68292/T118_Hussar.png
Crookfur
24-04-2004, 21:15
Well it can be difficult to argue with Bisons GT series but Crookfur can put forward a coupel of options.

First there is the heavy(insane) MBT option that takes the form of the T-7 Gilgamesh (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/vehicles.html#gilga)

Then there is the lighter medium weight T-8 Grey Mamba (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/vehicles.html#mamba)
which is notable for it's unusual 123mm ETC gun which operates at a higher tempreature and thus effective velocities and power than the majority of competeing ETC gun systems.

For a light tank we can offer the LBT Koshi (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/vehicles.html#koshi) either in it's present form or upgraded to use a 103mm ETC gun.
Challenger 2
24-04-2004, 21:18
Hardly anyone ignores my equipment (i.e., most people who ignore me, ignore me, but accept my equipment in others hands), and hardly anyone in II ignores me at all. Its the fantasy rpers and such who ignore me (i.e. the type of people who post 'OMFGZ MY UBERSHIP N00KZ J00 BUT I IGNORE N00KS J00 DED' just stretched out to 5 pages. Oh yeah and with the thought of every crewman added.).

Leclerc is far from the best, however for obvious reasons, it is one of the only tanks with reverse gears :lol:

OOC: You're a racist. I have always ignored you.

too right probably ex Nazi
Izistan
24-04-2004, 21:25
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2954649#2954649

Our MBT.
Challenger 2
24-04-2004, 21:25
Did u say RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!! :lol: :roll:

So your basicly selling rubish T-42's with a fancy name and fake stats !

:!: :!: :!: good luck :lol: :!: :!: :!: ha :!: :!: :!:

Ummm - those aren't pics of T-42s, they're T-84s - what'd you do, divide by two?
And there's nothing wrong with Russian hardware, I still use plenty of it in most departments of my army - the tradeoff of positives to negatives works well for me.
Also, not many people are going to take you seriously when you use *that* many emoticons in three lines - it does kinda undermine your credibility.

will cut down on emoticons but still he/she/it running iron blood is a right
smeg head ! if there tank had all the improvements they say, it wouldnt look like a t-84 would it, therefore it must be fake so dont buy from them
Kelonian States
24-04-2004, 21:29
Did u say RUSSIAN !!!!!!!!! :lol: :roll:

So your basicly selling rubish T-42's with a fancy name and fake stats !

:!: :!: :!: good luck :lol: :!: :!: :!: ha :!: :!: :!:

Ummm - those aren't pics of T-42s, they're T-84s - what'd you do, divide by two?
And there's nothing wrong with Russian hardware, I still use plenty of it in most departments of my army - the tradeoff of positives to negatives works well for me.
Also, not many people are going to take you seriously when you use *that* many emoticons in three lines - it does kinda undermine your credibility.

will cut down on emoticons but still he/she/it running iron blood is a right
smeg head ! if there tank had all the improvements they say, it wouldnt look like a t-84 would it, therefore it must be fake so dont buy from them
Very true - I wasn't planning on buying any, really, I have enough tanks of my own :D - All credit for the Red Dwarf reference, btw
The South Islands
24-04-2004, 21:37
Would all interesed parites please send me the tank plans via TG. Its getting too hard to filter the good plans from all of the insults and mindless drabble.
Iron Blood
25-04-2004, 01:31
OOC:
At least Im not a fedayeen-wannabe :roll: . Go get yourself blown up by the evil american zionists. Also, cheers to israel assasinating a couple more heroic liberation fighters! We all know Israeli buses are a major threat!
IC:
We recommend Crookfurs T-7, it has proved excellent in our service, and we operate over 10,000 of them. Though it is a bit more expensive.

If there is a contract for IFV's we will enter the Volk IFV, which makes the Iraqi tank-copy attempts look weak, much less their own BMP copy. The iraqi type 63 copy isnt really good at.anything. 85mm gun compared to 135mm gun, and generally much older, as the Sprut-SDM is based on... you got it, the Sprut, the PT-76's replacement (type 63 is a chinese pt-76 copy with 85mm gun)!
Iron Blood
25-04-2004, 01:36
OOC:
I see challenger is judging my tank by its pic, not by its specs. Oh well, T-84 is still better than challenger.