NationStates Jolt Archive

.....You can read all this on our site.....
(http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/skatervehicles.htm)
.....Actually we think these are overall better than mechs, and tanks, combined. Why? Because they are mechs and tanks combined! They are sort of like low-to-the-ground 4 legged mechs with rollerskates on. They're cooler than that sounds though! Read on......

Hybrid Wheel-Leg System(Skates):
Legs have the ability to pivot in all sorts of different directions, step up on things, and generally out-manuever wheels and treads, but they move slowly. Wheels and treads have always been the most efficient way to go fast, but only over relatively flat terrain. Our system puts wheels at the end of each leg, letting you have the best of both worlds. When driving, the legs are essentially motionless, except as suspension when going over bumps. Should you come to something normally impassible by wheels, the legs step up to the challenge and crawl through it. Because of this merger, both systems can see full usefulness, and the wheeled aspect is actually made more efficient. This method of propulsion has the unique ability to turn in place, or move in almost any direction on the wheels, reorienting the vehicle without slowing down; these things can strafe sideways when needed.
Additional benefits include:
Take up less space and weigh less than treads
Easily replaceable tires
Legs block shells from hitting crew compartments

.....Go see the site for our two vehicles.... (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/skatervehicles.htm)

These aren't really mecha, but more like primitive A.W.G.S (pronounces "eggs"), or as you call them, "sliders". Mecha usually have some definable human structure, and don't use high-velocity sliding wheels to move. These have neither.

I never saw the advantage to mecha anyway - arent they just tanks that cant cross difficult terrain and are easy to destroy/immobolise by attacking the legs?

I never saw the advantage to mecha anyway - arent they just tanks that cant cross difficult terrain and are easy to destroy/immobolise by attacking the legs?I suggest you take a look at my storefront (http://members.cox.net/resicop), where the mecha are of insane power and very little weakness. Especially the Vek. That thing is frekkin' nuts.

Resi:(ermm I called them skaters, several times in fact :-P) It depends on your definition of mecha, you seem to think they are only humanoid shaped, actually mechs can be of almost any shape, the deciding criterion is usually legs. And you can't say they usually don't have sliding wheels to move, that is a silly thing to say considering you draw from Armored Core, whose 4 legged mechs used wheels.

Also, please don't make me report you to the mods for blatantly advertising in my thread.

Praetonia: And just how would you go about immobilizing the legs? Tanks share this weakness, if not moreso in this case, because the legs on these vehicles are modular, meaning they can be replaced without much hassle. A tank can replace broken treads, but if the body of the vehicle was damaged, they have to live with it, in our case, damage to the central hull is much less likely. In areas of extremely loose sand, such as the Sahara, extra tires are added in a rollerblade configuration to provide greater surface area.

Resi:(ermm I called them skaters, several times in fact :-P) It depends on your definition of mecha, you seem to think they are only humanoid shaped, actually mechs can be of almost any shape, the deciding criterion is usually legs. And you can't say they usually don't have sliding wheels to move, that is a silly thing to say considering you draw from Armored Core, whose 4 legged mechs used wheels.Actually, they hover. You can see it clearly in the third one.
Also, please don't make me report you to the mods for blatantly advertising in my thread.Eh, sorry. Won't let it happen again.

The first picture on the site looks great. 8)
But they'll sink. Wheeled IFVs have that problem already, and they're lighter with more and bigger wheels.

Alright, since I didn't make the picture, I can't edit it, but assume it has 4 wheels per leg in a box arrangement. Actually regardless of whether they sink or not, they will still be very good for urban combat(just think of how the Black Hawk Down incident would have gone with this kind of on-site firepower....).

*BUMP*

Anyone interested in buying any of these, even for testing purposes? Anyone want to jointly develop a heavy tank variation with us?

Oh I will definately buy a hundred of those. Post modern/future, right?

One thing about armor- mabye a tank shell will knock it out, but think of all the other things. RPGs, anti-tank rifles, near misses from artillery, mines. You've just made it that much easier to knock one of those out. While LRR tanks can't stand up to other tank shells, they can stand up to mines and RPGs. The crew will not always be faced with an MBT as its opponent.

Yep, post modern, order confirmed, delivery in 1 month.

You are right about some of those.
-RPGs if they hit will knock them out, but we have an anti-rocket countermeasure and the ability to mount reactive armor to help improve survivability. We can't stand up to them, but we can try to avoid them.
-Most anti-tank rifles won't go through the frontal armor of these, but hitting a vital spot such as the engines will work, but the same can be said of MBTs.
-The near misses of artillery are hard to judge the effectiveness of. The schrapnel won't go through the armor, but the shock may incapacitate the drive system, MBTs are the same way though.
-Mines will immobilize or destroy nearly anything, plain and simple. They'll throw the treads on tanks, and shock the legs on these out of commision. Tanks have underarmor that will usually prevent crew injury, we have much higher ground clearance.

The armor on these is at the level where it can block weapons like the Bradley's 25mm autocannon. Its between the point of an APC's flimsy armor and an MBT's wastefully heavy armor.

*Bump*

No comments from my fellow post-modern nations? No one cares about developments in ground combat anymore?