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ZaS-27 Air Superiority Fighter - Find it, Get it, Keep it.

The Zoogie People
20-04-2004, 23:50
ZaS-27 'Firebird' Air Superiority Fighter

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The ZaS-27 is a next-generation air superiority fighter designed to establish and maintain air superiority with very few losses, winning on its own a critical part of an allied war effort. The ZaS-27M is a carrier-based variant, and the ZaS-27E is an enlargened fighter-bomber derivative similar to the F-15E, able to perform any of a variety of ground attack roles.

History

When all was said and done, the new administration examined the entirety of the Zoogie Air Force and concluded that the previous few administrations had done little to improve what was a drastic situation in the military. The air superiority corps was in a state of ruins, and so indeed was much of the airforce, despite the more than satiating funds that were now newly available. It basically amounted to the fact that we had the expertise, we had the funds, we had the companies, we have the materials, we have the personel, we have the capacity and capability - we just didn't do it. The next day, defense minister Brian Dredon delivered a speech on the floor of the defense agency - the birth of Project: Firebird. One fighter to rule them all, one fighter to find them...one fighter to fly rings 'round all, and in the fire, destroy them.

Airframe

To make an aircraft so stealthy and capable into a manueverable dogfighter, may new technologies had to be employed. The ZSF has no control surfaces on its wings or tail...no aerilons, no rudder...flaps and an unconventional (i.e, not just a square piece of metal lifted up, but rather, something like the F-16) air brake are used only as sources of air resistance for the landing approach.

The cockpit canopy is raised and positioned higher up to give the single pilot an excellent field of view around him. It is very useful in a combat zone. The streamlined airframe also allows the aircraft to plow through air resistance, while at the same time offering maximum stealth and manueverability.

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Powerplant

Great aircraft demand Lysol - er, great engines - that's a fact. Fortunately, Zoogie Aerospace is very experienced at engine design and constructrion, working with Estehl & Schultz to provide the powerplant for the ZaS-27. Two giant 34,000-lb engines power the Firebird, enabling maximum fuel efficiency (especially given that we run off methane) and supercruise, while propelling the aircraft to speeds of over Mach 2.

However, there is more to the engine than meets the eye. No visible moving parts are used in the engines - rather, micro and nanotechnology is employed along with fairly hidden mechanisms that direct thrust. A concept first employed in the X-36 program, this in and of itself reduces its heat signature.

The engines also use the most technologically sophisticated 3D-thrust vectoring system we have to offer. 3D thrust vectoring is done automatically to enhance flight, but the pilot also has full control over what it wants the engines to do. The engines are able to rotate in just about any direction to the maximum possible extent - +/- 120 degrees, giving the aircraft manueverability comparable to a ... wasp. Well, sort of. A superb system ensures the engine's safety and will automatically adjust it to safe levels if it overheats, and warns the pilot of any problems with the engine.

In the case of an incoming missile, the engine can also perform quite unexpected tasks. The engine can engage thermal dispersing as soon as an infrared missile is launched at the aircraft - basically turning the engine down to low thrust, or shutting it off completely, while absorbing and spreading the head throughout the immediate area. Much of the heat is also dissipated into the air, and the thrust behind it (if thrust is on) is distorted wildly in different directions. This doesn't give the aircraft great speed or maximum manueverability, but it confuses the heck out of infrared missiles - the aircraft can also recover immediately when it disengages the system.

The engines also make the aircraft capable of fairly short take-offs and very short landings, though it wasn't designed for it. With no weights, it can perform ESTOL takeoffs and landings.

Avionics

No fighter is worth two pennies, not without superior avionics. In one of the original ZSF visions, the aircraft would incorporate state of the art tracking devices to find enemy aircraft and shoot them down, all while not being seen. Of course, the other leg of that would be for the ZSF to elude enemy missiles and defeat enemy radar by whatever means. Thus, the ZSF may feature an innovative airframe, powerul, fuel-efficient, emission-masking, 3D-TV (phew) engines, and nearly flawless systems and endurance (phew), but that is not its true strong point. Where it really shines is in its avionics.

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The AN/QRS-122 'Phantom'

The ZaS-27 features one of the most powerful and hidden radars in existance, the AN/QRS-122 combat aircraft look-down-shoot-down all aspect radar. Able to receive signals from over 180 miles away, the AN/QRS-122 also masks its radar signals using self-cancelling Doppler and other means (excuse my radar technology ignorance), making it a very difficult signal to detect, either via passive radar or RWR.

The passive radar system integrates seamlessly with the radar warning receiver, alerting the pilot to enemy and allied radar emissions. Passive radar detects all incoming emissions and plots their distances on a radar display with a limit range of four hundred miles. It can also integrate seamlessly into the active radar/detection MFDs.

The ZaS-27 is capable of defeating enemy radar as well as absorbing and deflecting it. Taurus, Zoogiedom's first active ECM system. Mounted on two small pods on the rear vertical stablizers and in two tiny pods on the wings, Taurus emits a stealthy signal that cancels out any electromagnetic radar waves travelling towards the aircraft and displays nothing present in the area.

Firebird's electronic countermeasures suite is also formidable. The 'jammer' effectively disrupts the radar of enemy aircraft and radar installations in the area, distracting and confusion their receivers. It also projects the ZaS-27 in an area where it isn't - it announces that the aircraft is there, but where, the enemy has no idea...and of course, no means of taking it down.

Firebird also uses infrared tracking, integrated into the detection MFD. Passive detection of enemy heat emissions is completely stealthy and undetectable, and is always turned on. Aircraft are also significantly warmer than the surrounding air, especially at higher altitudes. The infrared is also particularly useful at identifying targets onground, which its milimeter wave radar is less capable of doing.

Satellite and GPS information is also relayed, including terrain mapping, and passive laser is incorporated - all seamlessly integrated into the MFD displays.

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The state of the art HUD display shows and organizes data in a layout similar to the F-22. The HUD basically displays for the pilot navigational information such as speed, altitude, heading, and combat systems such as the gunsight. Below the HUD are several multi-function displays. Navigational, detection, systems, weapons, flight and other information are all available here. The helmet designation systems helps the pilot with pertinent information even as he turns his head. The AN/ZSS-46 electronic countermeasures suite, aside from the formidable jamming system that distorts enemy radar, is able to deploy chaff and flare (35 of each of which are stored on the ZaS-27), engineered to easily disrupt even more advanced missiles.

The electronic countermeasures suite works hand in hand with several safety and emerency systems, and will be discussed further in the next section.

Systems

The Firebird has incredibly manueverability and stealth, attributes that must never fail. Between the Z-27 initial production and the ZaS-27 several years later, flight control mechanisms, hydraulics systems, weapons delivery, landing gear, and other systems in the ZaS-27 were placed under rigorous testing and thoroughly rehauled, lengthening the project - was it worth it? Absolutely. Your aircraft is ensured to perform at optimal levels.

The ZaS-27 has two cannons, one on each side of the cockpit (several inches removed). Both of 24-mm caliber, the six-barrel guns have a rapid fire rate, making it easy to deplete the ammunition. Even with an expert pilot, it is all too easy to run out of rounds. Dogfighting can be very inefficient.

Therefore, the ZaS-27 utilizes the D3CS system, or Dual Cannon Combat Control System. The twin embedded 24-mm cannons can be fully automated...When the detection systems of the Firebird lock onto an enemy fighter - let's say, an Su-37 - several systems kick in.

The Air Combat Manuever System (another which controls the control surfaces) makes adjustments in the control surfaces to aid the pilot in manuevering towards the aircraft, or to help swing the aircraft out of the way as the enemy aircraft gains a favorable position on it. The aforementioned D3CS, meanwhile, calculates the speed, position, distance, trajectory, and other statistics of its own plane and the enemy(ies) in question. The D3CS gun system then makes a calculation of the hit percentage that its cannons would get on the enemy fighter if it fired at any given time...when the hit percentage reaches a certain point, the cannon system propels a certain number of cannon rounds towards the enemy fighter...this evolutionary dogfighting system leaves the pilot free to manuever (and even this is aided) while letting the machine destroy on its own, with stunning accuracy. And if surrounded by two Su-37s, the LCS can even concentrate on splashing one while letting its IMMCS/EMCS and ACMS system save its tail on the other end. This is the next generation in dogfighting.


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A ZaS-27A taxis onto the runway.

In addition, emergency manuever systems controlling all aspects of flight control are also employed on the ZFS.



The Firebird, building on the LCS systems, redefines the term 'autopilot.' Targets in close proximity to the LCS are always tracked, as well as the ground and terrain (determined by the radar systems by comparing the altitudes of ground targets and generating a sort of rough computerized terrain map) to prevent the ZFSfrom getting into a midair or crashing accidentally in poor weather. Warnings will alert the pilot when he becomes too close to crashing, and the powerful 'Emergency Manuever Control System' will engage all control surfaces of the aircraft, including thrust vectoring, to vector out of the close strike. Even if there are multiple points of impending collision, this system will automatically attempt to manuever out of them all. A subordinate to this system, the 'Incoming Missile Manuever Control System,' tracks incoming missile trajectory, distance, speed, and makes a ton of calculations...based on these calculations, it will use the EMCS to perform extreme manuevers to dodge the missile at the last second, even as the pilot is manuevering the plane himself or herself. It also control the countermeasures suite, and releases flare and chaff as appropriate.

The countermeasures suite is also top of the line. It will automatically engage chaff and flare, launching them in the approximate direction of the missile in select time intervals, all based on the calculations of the IMMCS. Various electronic countermeasures system will engage powerful jamming, passive electronic countermeasures, and bombard incoming missiles with signals that intend to throw it off, no matter what the designation.

The ZFS uses an enhanced fly-by-optics system. Fly-by-wire, made famous by the venerable F-16 fighter, is an advanced control system that allows the aircraft unprecedented manueverability, and the pilot unprecedented control. Fly by optics is a few steps up. Fly-by-wire is now a thing of the past - optical fibers allow for faster, more reliable responses, much better control, and much better exploitation of the flight envelope. Both automated and manual, and able to be controlled by the various manuever systems such as EMCS and IMMCS, the ZFS-FBO system allows this fighter to be easily one of the most manueverable in the world. Combined with the effective, consolidated control surfaces and thrust vectoring, the ZFS is feature an extreme turn radius, incredible manuevers, and almost unmatched performance. It is able to come to a complete stop in mid air and hover, in both versions of the aircraft. It is also able to fly virtually sideways.



All of these are taken directly from the ZaS-42 specifications and edited for the ZFS - these advanced technologies that have now been incarnated into the Gecko were first employed on the ZaS-27.

Armament

The ZaS-27 has three versions, each of which have different armament sets. The first, the ZaS-27A, is armed with two 24-mm cannons, each with 430 rounds. The ZaS-27A has side bays that overlap towards the centerline, each of which can hold two AIM-132 short ranged heatseeking missiles. Its main bays hold six AIM-120 AAMs, but is also capable of holding four AIM-148 medium-long-ranged AAMs, or eight AGM-113 anti-radiation missiles.

JDAM/Laser guided munitions of up to 1000lbs can be carried in the place of two AIM-120s. The navalized ZaS-27M has common main bays, but a different set of cannons. Two 20-mm cannons are used instead, each with 560 rounds.

The ZaS-27E is a fighter-bomber, with enlarged delta wings and overall shape, and slightly evolved engines and systems. A single 30-mm cannon is embedded into the aircraft, with 390 rounds and the same evolutionary D3CS system programmed for tracking of land targets. Its inner bays are configured to hold large quantities of GBU-39 small diameter bombs or CBU-97 cluster bombs, or numerous general purpose AGM-65 Mavericks. The JSOW can also be carried internally within the ZaS-27E, a huge plus in capability.


Specifications

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ZaS-27A
Manufactured by: Zoogie Aerospace
Engines: Two Es-266 afterburning turbofan engines with combined 68,000-lb thrust
Performance: Max speed Mach 2.34; cruise speed Mach 1.67; automated and manual full 3D thrust vectoring; service ceiling 66,400ft
Persona: One
Hardpoints: Internal cannons (w/ revolutionary D3CS automated gun system), internal bottom bays (6 AAMS), fuselage-side bays (4 IR AAMs), four wing hardpoints and two wingtip hardpoints if necessary.
Estimated unit cost: $62 million
Production rights: Negotiable on request


ZaS-27M

The ZaS-27M is the naval version of the fighter. With enlargened wings, it also carries more fuel and comes carrier-capable.

Manufactured by: Zoogie Aerospace
Engines: Two Es-266-2400 afterburning turbofan engines with combined 68,000-lb thrust
Performance: Max speed Mach 2.43; cruise speed Mach 1.62; automated and manual full 3D thrust vectoring; service ceiling 68,400ft
Persona: One
Hardpoints: Internal cannons (w/ revolutionary D3CS automated gun system), internal bottom bays (6 AAMS), fuselage-side bays (4 IR AAMs), four wing hardpoints and two wingtip hardpoints if necessary.
Estimated unit cost: $66 million

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ZaS-27E

The ZaS-27E is a fighter-bomber derivative of the ZaS-27A, with greatly enlargened size, larger delta wings, even higher-positioned cockpit canopy, and with it, of course, more fuel. An easy replacement for F-15Es or Su-35

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Manufactured by: Zoogie Aerospace
Engines: Two Es-266-2900 afterburning turbofan engines with combined 74,000-lb thrust
Performance: Max speed Mach 2.24; cruise speed Mach 1.59; automated and manual full 3D thrust vectoring; service ceiling 72,600ft
Persona: One
Hardpoints: Internal cannons (w/ revolutionary D3CS automated gun system), internal bottom bays, fuselage-side bays (IR-AAM) that hold a large capacity of weapons for a variety of ground attack roles. Cuts out the need for an FB-22...this is beyond it. Far, far beyond it.
Estimated unit cost: $75 million
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~Zoogie Aerospace Corporation. Enjoy your fighter. This feature rated G for all 'good' nations.

All prices are negotiable, and discounts are usually given...export ZF-27A/M/E is a more limited version; trusted nations receive the full version. Just ask if you are a 'trusted' nation.


Also by Zoogiedom...

Zoogiedom offers for sale an entire suite of advanced, reliable aerial systems to supplement your air force. We are committed to bringing you quality products and supplies.

The C-71 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=131905&highlight=) is a very large tactical military airlift, capable of airlifting a load over twice that of the C-5 cargo. With an innovative box wing design, this is a surefire replacement for the C-5 and An-124...and is more efficient than an An-225.

The C-240 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127367&highlight=) cargo is a supersonic strategic military airlift, airlifting a greater load than the C-17, at much higher speeds. With a new redesign, including engines by United Elias, this will solve all your cargo problems.

And a few others as well! The C-240 (link above) has three other derivatives; the efficient KC-240 midflight refueling platform, the AC-240 cruise missile platform, and the EC-240 electronic warfare platform.

The ZaS-42 (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140087&highlight=) is the next gneration combat strike fighter. The most advanced strike fighter available today, it brings you top performance capability at an efficient cost. An extremely low-observable (often known as 'stealthy') aircraft, its armament is carried internally and is not as extensive as say, that of a Eurofighter, but it lives up to its first shot, first kill demands and then some - the systems define the aircraft, and this is definitely not lacking in advanced systems.

Zoogiedom is also open to several joint developmental concepts. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=139673&highlight=) See thread for details.


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A ZaS-27E flies through Zoogiedom, definitely not accompanied by a secret developmental unmanned combat aircraft, and definately not right above a developmental air-launched cruise missile.

This thread effectively replaces the prior one. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=121339&highlight=) Accurate information is located here.
Sarzonia
21-04-2004, 00:50
ZaS-27 'Firebird' Air Superiority Fighter

[OOC: Is this fighter available for "modern tech" countries (the ones that use ~20-21st century technology? If so, I'd like to buy some of these.]
Granzi
21-04-2004, 01:55
The Commonwealth would be interested in aquiring the Production/Sales rights for the ZaS-27M (naval version of the fighter) as part of our carrier packages at our naval storefront. Thank you for considering our proposal.

Best Regards,
Secretary Barlow
Department of the Navy
Arribastan
21-04-2004, 02:08
If this is a modern-tech aircraft (which it seems to be), we will purchase 50 ZaS-27A and 50 ZaS-27M for testing purposes. If the military approves, we will purchase production rights when they become availiable to us.
~J.C. Alcanzar
Fluffywuffy
21-04-2004, 02:15
You DARE use lines about the Precious to describe your aircraft? Wes will kill you nasty little Hobbit for insulting the Precious!

I must say, congratulations on the continuing goodness of aircraft designs from Zoogiedom
The Zoogie People
21-04-2004, 17:19
About the technology level... Everything that I do is in modern tech, which (in my world) runs from Present day through around 2020...all technology I use is modern and could definitely be accomplished with our present day resources by 2010 or so, I just tack on the other ten years to be safe (things take time, even if we have the tools to do it). So yes, the aircraft is fully modern.

Granzi, production rights will be granted for you at $900 million, with sales rights as part of your carrier packages granted at a further $300 million, totalling $1.2 billion.

Arribastani, your order has been confirmed; the contract for 50 ZaS(ZF)-27A and 50 ZaS(ZF)-27M will be $6 billion. Thank you.

The Preciouss is oursss...

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Al-Sabir
21-04-2004, 17:38
The Emirate of Al-Sabir would like to buy 96 ZaS-27As. We would also like to buy 12 ZaS-27Ms and 6 ZaS-27Es, but those are for testing purposes. We also have a question: What's the plane's range?

Money will be wired upon confirmation.
Sarzonia
21-04-2004, 17:59
About the technology level... Everything that I do is in modern tech, which (in my world) runs from Present day through around 2020...all technology I use is modern and could definitely be accomplished with our present day resources by 2010 or so, I just tack on the other ten years to be safe (things take time, even if we have the tools to do it). So yes, the aircraft is fully modern.
[OOC: Thanks... the fighters looked pretty "futuristic" so I wanted to make sure I was able to buy them as a modern tech country.]

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia would like to purchase 100 of the ZaS-27M (naval version) fighters for $66 million each (total $6.6 billion) and 100 of the ZaS-27 "Firebird" class fighters for $66 million each (total $6.6 billion) for a total procurement of $13.2 billion.

Money shall be wired upon confirmation.

Thank you for your consideration of our order [OOC: And thanks for that clarification of the technology!]

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
The Zoogie People
21-04-2004, 18:03
D'oh! :x Forgot to add range.

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The range of the ZaS-27 varies, depending on what sort of fuel one uses. Export versions are usually geared towards petroleum, although as an ally, you will receive the domestic variant, which we can easily configure for any fuel that you use for your military aircraft.

Based on petroleum, range would be as follows: ZaS-27A (1700 mi) ZaS-27M (1800 mi), ZaS-27E (1900 mi)

Your order for 96 ZaS-27A aircraft is confirmed at $5.76 billion; while your orders for 12 ZaS-27M and 6 ZaS-27E is confirmed at $1.5 billion, adding to a sum of...$7.26 billion. Thank you.

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Sarzonia, your order has been confirmed of 100 ZF-27A and 100 ZF-27Ms at a contract of $12.8 billion (due to order size); thank you for selecting Zoogie Aerospace.
21-04-2004, 18:06
The Peoples Republic of Falconridge would like to purchas 10 ZaS-27A fighters for testing purposes.

The Flight test commander would like to know if the a/c is compatible with other weapon delivery systems
The Zoogie People
21-04-2004, 18:23
Falconridge, ten ZF-27 fighters will be produced and supplied to your air force for testing purposes at a price of $660 million. What do you mean by the a/c being compatible with other weapons delivery systems? The Firebird is a very extensible aircraft and is easily *thinks of right word...* configured for any armament you require, so long as they can fit on the aircraft.

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Granzi
21-04-2004, 20:46
The Commonwealth thanks you and funds have been wired. A question, are these plans for the export or full type?

Best Regards,
Secretary Barlow
Department of the Navy
Friyusistan
21-04-2004, 21:07
We would like to know how much do you want for the production rigths of both the ZaS-27A and the ZaS-27M, if avaliable.
Friyusistan
21-04-2004, 21:07
Oops, triple post :S....
Friyusistan
21-04-2004, 21:08
We would like to know how much do you want for the production rigths of both the ZaS-27A and the ZaS-27M, if avaliable.
The Zoogie People
21-04-2004, 22:56
Granzi, both plans have been shipped; you may produce the ZaS-27 domestically, but when exporting as part of your carrier package, they must be the export version.

Friyusistan, production rights for the ZaS-27 (all domestic versions) is reserved to our closest allies; we are not directly allied to you but still on friendly terms. We will sell to you the domestic versions at a discount, but production rights for the full version are unavailable at this time.
Isselmere
21-04-2004, 23:58
To: The Glorious Nation of Zoogiedom
From: Yvonne Paulson, Dgr. of Aeronautics, DPA, MoD, UKIN
Subject: Production rights for ZaS-27A and ZaS-27M

Dear Zoogie People,

As a fellow member of the OMP, the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland would like to purchase the domestic production rights for the ZaS-27A and ZaS-27M fighters to fill the rather glaring gap in our current air defences. The two variants appear to be superb aircraft. I hope you are amenable to this proposal.

In gratitude,

Yvonne Paulson, Dgr.
Aeronautics Division
Defence Procurement Agency
Ministry of Defence
United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland
Drizzts Army
22-04-2004, 00:16
Drizzts Army has been intrested in this plane our Zoogie Ally Zoogiedom has been making wishto have some of our own.

We shall order 500 of the aircraft
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 17:10
Isselmere, as a fellow member of the OMP, we would be more than happy to grant you the production rights for the ZaS-27A and M at no charge; it is quite an expensive aircraft to produce as it is.

Drizzts Army, your order has been confirmed at $26 billion.
Sarzonia
22-04-2004, 17:16
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia would like to purchase 100 of the ZaS-27M (naval version) fighters for $66 million each (total $6.6 billion) and 100 of the ZaS-27 "Firebird" class fighters for $66 million each (total $6.6 billion) for a total procurement of $13.2 billion.

Money shall be wired upon confirmation.

[OOC: This is a second order that's identical to the first one I placed. Just to make sure there's no confusion.]

Thank you for your consideration of our order.
Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 17:45
Zoogie Aerospace and the government and defense agency of The Zoogie People have authorized the extension and doubling of the contract of Sarzonia, to be produced in the same relative timeframe (taking two or three years after the completion of the first contract). The combined contract now consists of 200 units each of the ZaS-27A and ZaS-27M, and will be worth a total of $23.1 billion; 12.8 of which have already been received.

A further $10.3 billion is to be wired for the procurement of the second contract; thank you.
Sarzonia
22-04-2004, 17:49
Zoogie Aerospace and the government and defense agency of The Zoogie People have authorized the extension and doubling of the contract of Sarzonia, to be produced in the same relative timeframe (taking two or three years after the completion of the first contract). The combined contract now consists of 200 units each of the ZaS-27A and ZaS-27M, and will be worth a total of $23.1 billion; 12.8 of which have already been received.

A further $10.3 billion is to be wired for the procurement of the second contract; thank you.

*Money wired.*

Thank you for your cooperation.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Friyusistan
22-04-2004, 17:52
We would like to start a contract with you to remplace the 528 F/A-18SJ in our Navy for 528 ZaS-27M. The aircrafts would be delivered and payed over a 5 year period. Do you take the contract?
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 18:03
We would take the contract; however we strongly advise you against it. The F/A-18 is a multirole strike fighter, with a role vastly different than our air superiority fighter. It would easily replace F-14s or MiG-29s on your carriers; but we can only reluctantly accept it as a replacement for your F-18s...especially with the CSJ upgrades.

The contract would be $28 billion over a five year period.
Azurul
22-04-2004, 19:00
The Empire of Azurul is interested in all of the models and would like to know if it is possible to buy production rights to all 3 models and their internal systems.
The Zoogie People
22-04-2004, 19:06
Production rights are reserved for allies or closely trusted nations only; so we can't grant production rights at this time. It is possible for you to acquire them however.
The Zoogie People
23-04-2004, 03:07
:arrow:
Drizzts Army
23-04-2004, 03:30
we tested these new planes u got and they seem to work better than our Euros, so we wish if we can have production rights for the jet so that we are able to have a fighter to join our EuroFighters.

It would help my freind
The Zoogie People
23-04-2004, 03:58
We are glad to see that the ZaS-27 outperformed the EF-2000 Typhoon; and will grant production rights at no charge for you, being transferred as we speak.

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Drizzts Army
23-04-2004, 04:19
Thankyou for accepting my offer my ally, for that, we shall offer the production rights of our succesful HC127/129 Helicopter if u wish to have.Just wanting to make us even :wink:
The Zoogie People
23-04-2004, 16:37
We appreciate your offer; and gladly accept the production rights.
Granzi
25-04-2004, 17:56
The Commonwealth would like to purchase the production rights for the ZaS-27A fighter, no sales this time :wink: . How much would that cost us?
The Zoogie People
25-04-2004, 18:02
The Commonwealth already has the production rights mentioned above; production rights for the ZaS-27A/M were transferred for your own use, and rights for the ZF-27 export variant were transferred as well for sales.
Granzi
25-04-2004, 20:04
:oops: Sorry for the confusion. Could you please post the stats for the export, I have those of the naval version up currently. Thank you.
The Zoogie People
01-05-2004, 18:00
:arrow:
Jeruselem
01-05-2004, 18:04
OOC

Nice shop.

"The one fighter"
>> One fighter to rule them all, one fighter to find them...one fighter to fly rings 'round all, and in the fire, destroy them.

Clever
Lost Hills
01-05-2004, 18:04
Just wondering, the ZaS-27 and the ZaS-27M are the same as the ZF-27 and ZF-27M right?
The Zoogie People
01-05-2004, 18:07
Chellis, wasn't entirely original though...I believe I the idea for that LotR thing from somewhere else, not sure where...thanks :P

Lost Hills, well, it's kind of complicated to explain. The ZaS-27A and ZaS-27M are the same as the ZF-27A and ZF-27M, and they're interchangeable...although ZF-27 generally tends to be used when I mean the foreign export versions.
Celtayoshi
01-05-2004, 18:20
I m aware that i am maybe not the closest of allies with you, but i was perhaps wondering if i could purchase production rights for your aircraft.
I would be produced in our capital under the company Shorts Aerospace. And, as a sign of good faith, should you allow us to purchase production rights we will allow inspectors in at random to ensure that we are not abusing the rights sold to us. You would have unlimited acess to almost all the construction facilites to inspect them.
Of course, that is only if you allow us to purchase production rights

Folla Sentre
Head of Economics, Shorts Aerospace
The Zoogie People
03-05-2004, 03:01
Production rights may be granted at a price of $15 bn...
Lost Hills
09-05-2004, 02:41
Any chance of me getting production rights to the Zas-27E?
The Zoogie People
09-05-2004, 02:59
But of course...production rights for all three aircraft will be granted at $15bn, or if you have purchased these before, you've already got them.
Sarzonia
09-05-2004, 20:29
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia would like to order 200 of the
ZaS-27E fighter-bombers. At $75 million each, the total should come to $15 billion.

Money shall be wired upon confirmation.

Thank you for your consideration.

Terrence A. Wilson
Vice President for Defense
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
The Zoogie People
10-05-2004, 22:25
Sarzonia, we are most pleased that you have returned. As an ally, or at least favorable nation in our view, and a frequently returning customer, the total contract procurement for 200 ZaS-27E fighter-bombers will cost $11.4bn and take three years to complete.
Al-Sabir
11-05-2004, 17:13
The Desert Republic of Al-Sabir would like to purchase an additional 96 ZaS-27As. At $66 Million each, this will come to a total of $6.336 Billion.

Money will be wired upon confirmation

Sincerely,

Mohammed El Kadi
Ministry is Defense
The Desert Republic of Al-Sabir
The Zoogie People
11-05-2004, 23:11
The nation of Al-Sabir's additional procurement request is confirmed, with a reduction of price due to our standing alliance, to a total of $6bn for the 96 aircraft.

Thank you for choosing Zoogie Aerospace.
Lost Hills
23-05-2004, 21:22
But of course...production rights for all three aircraft will be granted at $15bn, or if you have purchased these before, you've already got them.

$15 billion wired for the ZaS-27E.

By the way, is there any way you could develop a naval version of the ZaS-27E? We'd be happy to fund any research needed.
Kazakhstania
05-06-2004, 19:56
bump for an old friend
Scandavian States
07-06-2004, 04:46
The Imperial Air Force, in order to complete its requirement for new aircraft, wishes to purchase the following:

720 ZaS-27A Fighters
360 ZaS-27E Fighters
Zoogiedom
07-06-2004, 22:45
OOC - Please note that I'm not taking orders at this time (on a break from NS, and Kaz...I promise I'll send you the Sharkishki/Tiamat material when I finish my school year...but got finals to study for in the next ten days.

Allies please contact me via PM at a regional alliance forum or something...

IC:

Lost Hills, should you request a significant amount of naval ZaS-27Es, Zoogie Aerospace is willing to develop a naval variant; however, on a domestic scale, a separate naval fighter-bomber aircraft is planned instead of a naval ZaS-27E.

Scandavian States...order confirmed.
Scandavian States
08-06-2004, 01:28
We thank Zoogiedom for their generosity and will wire the money to the appropriate account immediately.

[I'm also interested in production rights for a carrier capable version but I'll t-gram you for that.]
Sarzonia
23-07-2004, 17:47
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia would like to purchase 1,000 of the ZaS-27M (naval version) fighters for $66 million each (total $66 billion) and 1,000 of the ZaS-27 "Firebird" class fighters for $66 million each (total $66 billion) for a total procurement of $132 billion.

We find that we need to increase our ranks of aircraft to increase our undersized Air Force. We also would like to note that we are extremely pleased with the quality of the aircraft we have purchased from Zoogie Aerospace and from your allied partners in Granzi. They have served us extraordinarily well in two theaters of combat, massively exceeding even our most optimistic expectations. We also would be interested in acquiring the production rights to any aircraft we have purchased in the past.

Money shall be wired upon confirmation.

Thank you for your consideration of our order.

Bill Lighton
Air Force Chief
Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Tawtina
23-07-2004, 17:55
How much would Production Rights for the ZaS-27A be?
The Zoogie People
24-07-2004, 03:35
Sarzonia's procurement will be slashed down to $120bn, and procurement to be delivered as quickly as possible. Our corporations are very delighted at your return, once again...and we shall ship production rights to the ZaS-27, to be updated with every new release, for the amazing low price of $4.99! (+$1500 S&H)
Tawtina
24-07-2004, 03:54
Whats 1500 S&H?
Drizzts Army
24-07-2004, 04:38
The Drizzts Army Airforce is pleased with the Zas-27A, the most mass produced plane in the airforce, but the Navy needs a better fighter than the Harrier, The navy wishes to also have liscenced production of the Zas-27M to beef up the carrier force.
Sarzonia
14-10-2004, 20:31
*bump*
Jaxusism
14-10-2004, 20:43
The Grand Empire of Jaxusism was wondering if it would be able to purchase production (not sales) rights to all forms of this fighter and we are willing to pay 100 billion. If more is necessary we will pay it also. Money wired upon confirmation.

-Jaxusism Foreign Affairs
The Zoogie People
19-10-2004, 23:19
Tawtina, S&H is shipping and handling. A small joke.

Drizzts, license for the naval variant, are of course granted. I don't remember the set price I have for such things, but you can afford it, no problem; it's not that important to me that I have the exact number.

Jaxusism; the price is more than acceptable; however, we are dubious as to your reputation. (Aren't you a terrorist nation?...Or am I confusing you with somebody else?)
Sarzonia
20-10-2004, 01:55
To: Zoogie Aerospace
From: John Newman
Vice President for Defense, Incorporated States of Sarzonia
Subject: Sales to Jaxusism

We ask that you not sell any items to the nation of Jaxusism for the following reason (http://forums2.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7250344&postcount=413):

As a result of that nation's possible link to the Jaxus Nine terrorist group, the Portland Iron Works have banned any sales to Jaxusism and encourage all allied and affiliated storefronts not to sell to that country.
Jaxusism
20-10-2004, 02:32
Tawtina, S&H is shipping and handling. A small joke.

Drizzts, license for the naval variant, are of course granted. I don't remember the set price I have for such things, but you can afford it, no problem; it's not that important to me that I have the exact number.

Jaxusism; the price is more than acceptable; however, we are dubious as to your reputation. (Aren't you a terrorist nation?...Or am I confusing you with somebody else?)

No, we are not. And we ask you to refuse the notion from other nations that we are in any way affiliated with the Jaxus Nine terrorist organization. If you do not sell to us you will be going on Jaxusism's black-list. We hope you will respect our honesty and our reputation and sell to us these rights.
The Zoogie People
20-10-2004, 02:49
It would be a tough decision, to be sure: the pleads of a stranger or the conclusion of a staunch and turstworthy friend. The President was not inclined to not give Jaxusism any chance, but the advice of Sarzonia carried considerable weight.

It was decided, then, to give more thought to the matter and to telegram (hint :)) Sarzonia in request for more information.

Statement

Jaxusism's appeal pending, more investigation will be conducted before the permission or denial of the granting of production rights.