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Following repeated airspace violations as well as random raids on Kazikamimoto's shipping routes, I have been left no choice but to declare war on The Free Land of People who are Free. Warnings for these actions were not followed and therefore our nation has no choice but to go to war. The president of The Free Land of People who are Free has 5 hours to reply to this otherwise the war will commence at once.

Do you even know if this guy cares if you declare war on him/her or not? I think you should tell him first.

After a completely unprovoked threat by the nation of Kazikamimoto on the Free Peoples of PwaF (People who are Free), a government vote was taken and a unanimous decision reached, to reject the manifesto of the Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto.

At 3:00pm (PST) on April 20th the Free People's War Act was enacted by the Supreme Free-Lord of PwaF allowing (<--- EDITed from "beginning") the conscription of almost 30% of civilians to join the ranks of the Free People's Millitary, which should commence within the next week

A statement was released by the Supreme Free-Lord:
The Freedom of the people of this nation will not be threatened. We do not negotiate with ANYONE who takes aggressive action against our nation.

One hour later (@ 4:00pm PST), the Free People's Millitary began assembling defences in the many border cities of PwaF. The Free People's Air Force scrambled a squadron to patrol the border with Kazikamimoto.

As the deadline specified by Kazikamimoto approaches (4:45 pm PST) the defences for the Free Land of People who are Free are prepared as they await the next move of their opponent. Though they do not wish to fight this war, they will defend their freedom.

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OOC Messages should be posted in a thread to be started called ("Kazikamimoto vs PwaF OOC"). This thread will be created if war is declared. If war is declared, Role-Playing should only be performed by:

The Free Land of People who are Free (PwaF)
The Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto
Allies of these nations

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Let it be known that no telegrams were recieved from the Holy Empire of Kazikamoto, warning of these airspace violations. In fact their have been no airspace violations. Our ambassador has notified the nation of Kazikamimoto of our intentions to defend our nation

You can't use more than 5% of your population in the military. Otherwise your economy would collapse...

You can't use more than 5% of your population in the military. Otherwise your economy would collapse...

Of course 30% is only a maximum allowed by the Free People's War Act. In practice the number would be significantly lower (i.e. < 5%)

OOC: I agree, 5% is an absolute high end number. For a minor conflict of this type 3% should be the max military level.

IC:
Exham supports freedom and nation's right to peace. We would like to see Kazikamimoto produce evidence of such incidents against its nation by the Pwaf government.

OOC:

I don't pretend to be an expert at running a nation (yet :)). As you can probably tell from my join date, I am new to this game. The Free People's War Act will be adjusted to a maximum of 5% (of course this is still a MAXimum). Thank you for notifying me of this error

OOC:

I don't pretend to be an expert at running a nation (yet :)). As you can probably tell from my join date, I am new to this game. The Free People's War Act will be adjusted to a maximum of 5% (of course this is still a MAXimum). Thank you for notifying me of this error

[OOC: I see that both combatants are VERY new to the art of a NS war. Kazikamimoto's join date is yesterday. As a result, both countries should have very small militarys. With a population of no more than 10 million, your military should be no more than 500,000 according to a wartime figure of five percent of the population.

Also, Kazikamimoto, you may want to keep in mind that you're supposed to try to negotiate first rather than jump right into a war. Roleplay out attempts at diplomatic solutions. Warmongering is a real quick way to alienate NS players.

I realize I haven't been here just under a month in my own right, but there are some helpful threads that will help you put together a solid roleplay of a war.]

[OOC: I know the leader of Kazikamimoto in RL, and he is just being irritating. As both of our nations are new to this game, and therefore posses extremely small millitaries, I am backing out of this conflict. I'm gonna start building my nation...:)]

We'll send troops to help defend the free peoples if nessecary

[OOC: I know the leader of Kazikamimoto in RL, and he is just being irritating. As both of our nations are new to this game, and therefore posses extremely small millitaries, I am backing out of this conflict. I'm gonna start building my nation...:)]

[OOC: I know... my comments were mostly directed at him since he's the one who threated war without IC provocation.]

Can we help to reach a deal? Think of your citizens, for God's sake!

My nation has a large quantity of mercenaries available for hire. They include:

Guerillas from Askar City
Basic Infantry from the city state of Zhalfir
Shock Troops and/or Mechanized Cavalry from Dauth
Soldevi Infiltrators/Snipers/Spies
Medium Fightercraft from Krosa City
Stealth Tanks and/or Bording Vessels from Visir
Artillary and/or Assassins from the capitol city of Catera

Prices will be posted when I'm out of school.

We do not see the need for war between Kazikamimoto and PwaF.
Kazikamimoto has not provided firm evidence about the PwaF's indiscetions and not backed his claims to go war. Hopefully, reason will prevail and both sides will not commit to an unnecessary war over unsubstantiated allegations.

God bless

I wasn't expecting such an outcry from others from my declaration of war. Tensions between my nation and PwAF have been ongoing for some time now. All you bleeding hearts will be happy to know that our government has decided the best course of action will be first to negotiate a ceasefire and possibly reach a peace agreement with PwAF.
If a descision cannot be reached however, we are prepared to go to war. My nation has been placed on high alert and is prepared to fight if that be the case. I expect a reply from the ambassador of PwAF as soon as possible.

I wasn't expecting such an outcry from others from my declaration of war. Tensions between my nation and PwAF have been ongoing for some time now. All you bleeding hearts will be happy to know that our government has decided the best course of action will be first to negotiate a ceasefire and possibly reach a peace agreement with PwAF.
If a descision cannot be reached however, we are prepared to go to war. My nation has been placed on high alert and is prepared to fight if that be the case. I expect a reply from the ambassador of PwAF as soon as possible.

[OOC: Edited double post]

I wasn't expecting such an outcry from others from my declaration of war. Tensions between my nation and PwAF have been ongoing for some time now. All you bleeding hearts will be happy to know that our government has decided the best course of action will be first to negotiate a ceasefire and possibly reach a peace agreement with PwAF.

[OOC: If you look at the sticky dealing with how to conduct wars on NS, you'd see that "tensions between countries" do not justify a NS war. Even if you know someone IRL and you can't stand him or her, having every reason known to man to hate someone IRL does not justify a NS war unless you roleplay it out. Otherwise, it's going to look like you're just a warmonger, or worse, a n00b.

If you roleplay it out and outline in detail what your IC reasons are for going to war, I doubt most countries in NS will honestly care whether you do or don't. Personally, as long as it doesn't directly affect Sarzonia, I won't get involved. HOWEVER, I take exception to your "bleeding heart" comment because I am HARDLY opposed to seeing a WELL-PLAYED NS war. It can make for very entertaining and inventive roleplay.]

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia wish to express our disappointment with the government of Kazikamimoto for their initial efforts to gird toward a war that their people likely could not afford to fight. However, we express our hope that the tensions behind this escalation are soon resolved and the two countries can coexist peacefully.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

(I honestly did not think that you people cared one way or another what a single nation is doing but if you want this to be good then fine)

We have just recieved word that the ambassador to Kazikamimoto has been taken hostage by PwAF forces. Apparently there was never an intention by PwAF to negotiate a peace settlement and now they have foolishly escalated tensions even further. This will be a final warning to PwAF: Return our ambassador immediatley and commit yourself to proper negotiations or we will not hesitate to go to war. As we speak, troops and munitions are being mobalized, ready to move out on my command. A final chance is being offered for your nation to attempt to save yourself from such foolish actions, and I fully advise you to consider.

Sincerly,
Supreme Commander Arkhizon of the Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto

(I honestly did not think that you people cared one way or another what a single nation is doing but if you want this to be good then fine)

[OOC: I found out how much the regs here care about the actions of one country when I severed diplomatic ties with a country who had at least a 600 ship navy when I only had eight ships in my own navy... and I wasn't intending to go to war! Reading up on how people roleplay here is very helpful, whether you have prior roleplaying experience or not. It's also just irritating to see countries start one day and go off and fight wars the next, but what's even more irritating is when countries are unrealistic about their country's military capabilities. No just founded country with 7 million population is going to have an army with 5 million troops and no just-founded country is going to have nukes out the wazoo.]

[OOC: That's it! I have done absolutely nothing of the sort and I'm tired of these blatent accusations :x ]

The Governement of PwaF is extremely dissapointed that the Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto chooses to architect a war of this nature. We have performed no such kidnapping, and have not recieved any private communications from Kazikamimoto (telegrams) relating to this topic. It appears that the government of Kazikamimoto is attempting to rally public support for a large-scale war. We will not be intimidated by empty accusations.

Supreme Free-Lord of the People Who Are Free

Our intelligence HQ has just recently recieved an updated report on the hostage situation which the PwAF government refuses to aknowledge. Our spies have discovered that the hostage was not in fact captured by government forces but a radical group of patriotic zelots. Unfortunetly they are still citizens of PwAF and therefore their actions will unfortunetly affect the whole nation. Wheter it is the PwAF government, radicals, or even a radical government, it does not matter. Our man is being held hostage over there by somebody and therefore somebody must pay the price. This is the final warning for the PwAF government - Return our ambassador to us immediately or face the guns of war. :twisted:

Our intelligence HQ has just recently recieved an updated report on the hostage situation which the PwAF government refuses to aknowledge. Our spies have discovered that the hostage was not in fact captured by government forces but a radical group of patriotic zelots. Unfortunetly they are still citizens of PwAF and therefore their actions will unfortunetly affect the whole nation. Wheter it is the PwAF government, radicals, or even a radical government, it does not matter. Our man is being held hostage over there by somebody and therefore somebody must pay the price. This is the final warning for the PwAF government - Return our ambassador to us immediately or face the guns of war. :twisted:

We have located the Ambassador, who appeared to have been kidnapped by a group that has been identified as the "Kazikamimoto Superiority Faction," who has confessed to staging a kidnapping of the ambassador to cause the Kazikamimoto government to declare war on the nation of PwaF. We understand that every nation has radical groups and do not hold this against the nation of Kazikamimoto. It appears that this group attained false citizenship papers to create the fascade that they were patriotic zelots. The ambassador is being returned to Kazikamimoto as we speak. We hope that this conflict will be resolved diplomatically.

We also hope that the nation of Kazikamimoto understand that it is lack of communication that caused this conflict to begin. They would be wise to understand that these issues can be handled without the threat of war riding on every single request.

If war still ensues, we will defend the Freedom of the Free People's of PwaF.

Thank you
Supreme Free-Lord of The People who are Free

First of all, the Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto wishes to thank PwAF for their efforts to locate and rescue our ambassador. I am also pleased to annouce that he is now safe and recovering from his ordeal. Our intelligence has traced the radicals responsible back to a cell orerating from our own nation. It gives me great satisfaction to annouce that our shock troops and UC forces have succesfully shut down that operation and arrested all who were connected. War conspiracy is a serious crime in Kazikamimoto, punishable by death, and there will be a public execution of all those involved.
On another note, our nation is also pleased to have succesfully negotiated a peace settlement with PwAF and are currently mending all ties that have been damaged by this hidious conspiracy.

First of all, the Holy Empire of Kazikamimoto wishes to thank PwAF for their efforts to locate and rescue our ambassador. I am also pleased to annouce that he is now safe and recovering from his ordeal. Our intelligence has traced the radicals responsible back to a cell orerating from our own nation. It gives me great satisfaction to annouce that our shock troops and UC forces have succesfully shut down that operation and arrested all who were connected. War conspiracy is a serious crime in Kazikamimoto, punishable by death, and there will be a public execution of all those involved.
On another note, our nation is also pleased to have succesfully negotiated a peace settlement with PwAF and are currently mending all ties that have been damaged by this hidious conspiracy.

/ooc grzz minds eye will declare war on u if u dont stop all the double posts... :x

To the most esteemed leaders of the PwaF parliment, The People's Repulic of Metallinauts pledges protection we are calling up 2% of our reserves to aid you. We are an extremely hi tech nation who have faster than light travel so our ships should reach your planet in a matter of days should you need them.

Emporer Eldrad Ulthwe

PUBLIC EXICUTIONS?!?!?!?! ARE YOU MAD I DEMAND YOU STOP THIS AT ONCE!! A NATION CERTAINLY HAS A RIGHT TO SOVERIGNTY. YET THAT ONLY CAN GO SO FAR. IF YOU DON'T STOP THE EXCICUTION THE UNITED ARMED FORCES OF THE REALM NUMENOR WILL LIBERATE YOU PEOPLE. PLEASE WE IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE THE DIPLOMATIC WAY OUT. WE HAVE NO DESIRE FOR BLOOD SHED.
Emporer Eldrard Ulthwe

PUBLIC EXICUTIONS?!?!?!?! ARE YOU MAD I DEMAND YOU STOP THIS AT ONCE!! A NATION CERTAINLY HAS A RIGHT TO SOVERIGNTY. YET THAT ONLY CAN GO SO FAR. IF YOU DON'T STOP THE EXCICUTION THE UNITED ARMED FORCES OF THE REALM NUMENOR WILL LIBERATE YOU PEOPLE. PLEASE WE IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE THE DIPLOMATIC WAY OUT. WE HAVE NO DESIRE FOR BLOOD SHED.
Emporer Eldrard Ulthwe

The Government of PwaF would like to thank all nations for their support. However, a diplomatic solution has been achieved and we will stand by this peace agreement. We hope that this agreement will help to improve communication between our two nations.

Regarding the public execution of the perpetrators (sp?) of the grave crime. While the nation of PwaF does not, itself, allow the execution of criminals, we understand the right to a nation's soverignty and will not take any action against the nation of Kazikamimoto. We we would like to formally request that the nation of Kazikamimoto reconsider the execution of these criminals, but we will not interfere in the internal affairs of another nation.

The internal affairs of my nation are of no concern to anyone except me. War conspiracy is an extremely serious crime in Kazikamimoto, especially in the light of recent events in which our great nation almost got pulled into a pointless war by the very conspirators we now will be executing. If these criminals were succesful in their schemes then not only would our nation have gone to war, but thousands of soldiers and citizens on either side would have perished. Therefore, these few conspirators would have been responsible for the deaths of thousands of others. Don't you think it is fair to give these criminals what they deserve?

PUBLIC EXICUTIONS?!?!?!?! ARE YOU MAD I DEMAND YOU STOP THIS AT ONCE!! A NATION CERTAINLY HAS A RIGHT TO SOVERIGNTY. YET THAT ONLY CAN GO SO FAR. IF YOU DON'T STOP THE EXCICUTION THE UNITED ARMED FORCES OF THE REALM NUMENOR WILL LIBERATE YOU PEOPLE. PLEASE WE IMPLORE YOU TO TAKE THE DIPLOMATIC WAY OUT. WE HAVE NO DESIRE FOR BLOOD SHED.
Emporer Eldrard Ulthwe

First of all, the Incorporated States of Sarzonia would like to express our great relief that the conflict between the two countries has been resolved amicably and that no blood was shed on the fields of battle.

Secondly, we express our disappointment that Metallinauts have threatened the soverignty of Kazikamimoto because of its distaste for the way that country handles its internal affairs. We implore Metallinauts to use the same tools of diplomacy that we encouraged Kazikamimoto and People Who Are Free to operate and refrain from any attempts to coerce Kazikamimoto to tailor its criminal justice system to meet its own ideals.

For the sake of peace, please refrain from carrying out your threats. Failure to exercise diplomatic restraint shall, if I may use un-diplomatic candor, result in dire consequences for your country.

Mike Sarzo
President
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

[OOC: The kidnappers are TERRORISTS and they nearly caused a war that would have taken thousands of lives. I'd consider what they did to be treason, which I'd certainly consider a death penalty offense. You can be outraged all you want; you can condemn Kazikamimoto for public executions all you want. But don't attack them because you don't agree with the way they do things.]

I extend my thanks to Sarzonia for their support and have sent a basket of exotic fruits from my country as a thanks. Perhaps we could discuss some sort of trade agreement? Telegram me if you wish to discuss one.

IF our intentios seemed rash we apologize it is not our nation's wish to come off as the bully. Yes we belive they deserve what is coming to them, a fair trial not an instant execution. How about you send them before the U.N.? It's just that we also believe a public execution is archaic and wrong. Not to mention these terrorists should be treated as prisoners of war. Many apologies if we have offended anyone.
Emporer Eldrad Ulthwe

I guess I did not mention that AFTER a fair trial, the guilty will be executed.

Thank you for being reasonable we will demobilize everything in your sector. Shall you need us the doors of The People's Replic of Metallinauts is always open to those in need.

Well I'm certainly glad that everything could be settled between us all.

Well, now that our bumpy past is behind us, would you like to form some sort of treaty?