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World War II RP

Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 05:51
I am trying this RP to see where it gose to and to have some fun, I know their are other WWII RP threads, but I wanted to try one.

Now, it will start out in 1939 and you can be any nation in that period of time, but you must have their power and weapons of their time, example would be if your Russia and you say "AHHH I HAVE 1 MILLION NUKES AND I KILL YOU" I just won't mess with with something like that.

Rules: You must know atleast some information about things of WWII time, like weapons, population, and amount of industry or weapon making abilities.

I will not tolerate whiners or poor sportsmanship, like if your enemy declares war on you and you say "WELL THATS NOT FAIR" then o well you should of been ready.

I don't want people that can think they can march their way to victory with one tank, I would like to see some strategy, so if you have 5 million people or 5 billion people I don't care, if you pick a nation you get that population.

If you want to be in this RP and you pick a nation that someone already has please pick another nation or wait another time if I ever make another RP.

Like I said the RP starts in WWII, but that means you don't have to do what they did in the past, say if you where Japan and you decided to bomb the U.S in 1940 instead of 1941, then go ahead.

Also, if you pick a nation like Poland, and I have Germany and its 1939, I will say if i declare war or not.

Well if i missed any rules I will post or edit this.

I will RP as Germany

In order to get this RP going I will need at least some people to pick a nation, and when I decide it is time to start, I will say when.
Crimsdale
20-04-2004, 06:02
I'll take Russia

This i'll be fun
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 06:05
I'll take Great Britain and the Commonwealth nations.

This should be real fun.
Crimsdale
20-04-2004, 06:06
someone be Japan
Tarlachia
20-04-2004, 06:08
I'm not taking part in this thread, but I'd like to recommend that you guys do character rping, it works pretty well, and just switch to 'national view' on the bigger issues...

Good luck, I'll be keeping an eye on this thread...
20-04-2004, 06:13
I'll be Brazil.
Crimsdale
20-04-2004, 06:14
sounds like a good plan, I'll start thinking of a person
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 06:17
Im very pleased that people are interested is this RP, I will wait a little longer until a few more people join in and then we will start.
Crimsdale
20-04-2004, 06:20
I'd actually like to change my choice to america
Trois Pont
20-04-2004, 06:23
Sounds fun. I would like Japan, or China if Japans is taken :twisted:
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 06:24
Can we start it a few years earlier?

If so, i'll be Poland.

If not, well, umm...France :)
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 06:27
Well, ok we can start in the year 1938 I guess, it be alright, a little time to mobilize would be fine for me.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 06:28
I will wait for at least two more nations to pick then we will start.
Tarlachia
20-04-2004, 06:30
sounds like a good plan, I'll start thinking of a person

There was once a WWII thread on Nationstates forum, and in that thread, I was a German sniper...unfortunately, the thread died, and didn't progress, so I pulled out. However, I really enjoyed doing that.

If you're curious about that thread:

1939; The Beginning (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123876&start=0)
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 06:32
Well, ok we can start in the year 1938 I guess, it be alright, a little time to mobilize would be fine for me.

Awesome. That would make things a bit more interesting than being stomped on straight away.

sounds like a good plan, I'll start thinking of a person

There was once a WWII thread on Nationstates forum, and in that thread, I was a German sniper...unfortunately, the thread died, and didn't progress, so I pulled out. However, I really enjoyed doing that.

If you're curious about that thread:

1939; The Beginning (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123876&start=0)

Yeah, i was in it, good fun while it lasted :)
Tarlachia
20-04-2004, 06:35
Yeah, i was in it, good fun while it lasted :)

Indeed...(sigh)...

At least I still have my character stats for that and all...I think....somewhere on this damn computer....
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 06:49
Ok we will start now.

The year is 1938.

I will let people still pick a country unless its been taking over or if it is after the year of 1943.

We begin!
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 07:00
January 3rd 1938.

We went with start planning, peace will not be for ever.

Mobilize the Wehrmacht in new draft plan if war is upon us.

http://chrito.users1.50megs.com/photos/poland1939/polen140.jpg
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 07:20
January 4th, 1938.

The British Government officially asks for talks with the German Republic under the Furher.

The British Parliament has also passed a bill calling for a peacetime draft.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 07:31
January 5th 1938.

Germany declines British request.

Germany starts the recruting plan for the Gebirgsjäger.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 07:38
January 5th, 1938.

The British Government offers its hand in alliance to the people of Germany and the Fuhrer. It is hoped that a new era in European history will be ushered in when the restored Germany and the British Empire stand hand in hand.
20-04-2004, 07:43
hey, if i can be russia, that'd be great, cant have a war without some commies right?....right?
Chellis
20-04-2004, 07:44
I will be france, if its all good. I know a good amount about france in ww2 and its capabilities in the early war.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 07:52
Ok you two are in.

January 6th 1938

We went with it would be foolish to join the alliance in decline to British alliance, but we will not provoke the British and the allies.

Germany invites Mussolini to the Reich.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 07:55
January 6th, 1938

It is the policy of the British Government that the German nation is currently in violation of the Versailles Treaty. If Germany does not cease its military buildup immediately, there will be consequences.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:00
same day: russian army ordered to mobilize on the Russian-European border
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:01
January 8th 1938

Germany offers plan to Britain, We will stop miltary build up, but we will still have training of men, but they will be sent back home unless a conflict would effect Germany.

Germany had expedition to Antarctica.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:02
btw me and freedom fighting-ers are the same person
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:02
btw me and freedom fighting-ers are the same person. its a long story so dont ask
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:03
Germany will not build up nor will you continue training men. The Versailles Treaty expressly limits Germany to no more than 100,000 men in the military. We will not compromise.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:06
the russian government stands by the German nation on this. we believe that a military build-up is the governments decision, not any others. the treaty that you speak of, was agreed upon on the 11th of november, 1918. it is a new year. a new decade. a new age. the treaty shoulf no longer hold germanies shackles in place
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:07
Great Britain will not idly sit by while Germany is breaking the Versailles Treaty.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:10
and Russia shall not sit by as you expand you empire by reigning down on other nations. Germany is a free country, we believe it is time you recognise this, or face the consoquences.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:11
Germany will stop all building and recruting, but Germany demands if conflict should come upon us we will start recruting and start weapon making again.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:13
We know that the Russian military is a shell of its former self. The purges of military leaders and civilians has nearly crippled the USSR.

Germany is a sovereign nation, a sovereign nation that signed a treaty when they lost a war. As a sovereign and modern nation they are expected to hold true to their treaties. Just as other nations would demand that We stick to the treaties we sign, so we demand that other nations do the same.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:13
If Germany is geninue in its effort, we would yet again like to extend a hand of friendship.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:16
by continuing on with this treaty, the Russian government believes that germany would fall into an economic catastrophe, much like the 20's inflation. as a nation, they should no be bound by this treaty any longer.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:17
The Soviet Union has no opinion that the British Government is bound to respect in this matter.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:17
Jaunary 12th 1938

Germany asks Italy and Russia if it may use their land out of British and French eyes, that we can test new upgrades on German Luftwaffe aircraft.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:18
agrees to your propisition
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:20
Thanks Russia by offering training of 5 Russian divisions up to German standards.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 08:21
The russian govenment is sick and tired of Great Britains attempts at policing the world. you empire was moraly defeated in the american war of independance. it is time you resign from your throne and place your crown on another nations head.
Hamptonshire
20-04-2004, 08:25
OCC:

I'm going to leave this RP. No offense, but this thread lacks the depth of historical accuracy that I'm looking for.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:30
January 13, 1938

Germany makes Parabellum Luger P-08's for the Bulgaria army.

Germany makes Parabellum Luger P-08's for the Hungarian army.

Germany had Industy build up in the Ruhr for non-military actions.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:34
Sorry, but not looking to be all that historical, so if i break the Versailles Treaty then I do, if Russia decides to be the way it is, then it is.
Chellis
20-04-2004, 08:38
January 8th-

France realizes in this day and age that germany simply cannot be limited to the treaty of versailles. We certainly dont plan invading germany, and if it wants stronger defense forces, we see no reason why it cant raise it as long as it doesn't seem to be too offensive, such as long range artillery and bombers or whatnot that really arent needed in defense, but this can all be worked out later.

-----------------

France finally declares support of the Republicans in the Spanish civil war. The Spanish have just taken the city of Tereul, and we are sending three infantry divisions with tanks, and a squadren of aircraft to support them. We must give our support to the legitimate government, and we are exporting(mostly) light weapons to republican forces, but also some artillery and whatnot to help the spanish. Naval forces are taking off from the mediterranean and atlantic theatres to attack nationalist navies and ports. It is also giving a number of its 5,000 or so aircraft to spain, approximatly 1,200, but the great majority are older planes that the french have governed not worthy for a airbattle against an enemy with a decent airforce; one without, or with very few aircraft, is a different story. More french aircraft such as the experimental Farman 222.3, Leore et Oliver 451, Bloch 210, Dewoitine 501, and hopefully some aircraft purchased from america will be made/recieved to make up for the loss of aircraft.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:47
January 13th, 1938

Germany must not get to involved with the Spanish Civil War, but Germany sees the chance to test new weapons and to learn, Germany sends commanders and weapons with a few selected regiments of different divisions.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 08:54
January 13, 1938

At Berlin, and other cities, have had people wanting to be able to have a career in the German Wehrmacht and the Waffen SS, so Germany has started a plan to recrut 100 people a day for each career such as the Wehrmacht, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine, Gebirgsjäger, Fallschrimjäger, and the Waffen SS
Chellis
20-04-2004, 08:57
January 14, 1938-

A convoy system has begun from marseilles to Valencia, spain. Once the ships unload supplies there, they are brought by trucks to Teruel, protected by tanks and the best aircraft france has to offer to defend from harassment. SA mle 1937 AA guns are being brought especially, as they will defidentally help keep an edge in air control over the city.

OOC:Getting late, lets pick this up tomorrow.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 09:12
January 14, 1938

Germany makes sure that it has full control of German forces in Spain.

Germany sends men 1,300 of Wehrmacht status and it also sends 500 Stuka's and 300 He-111's and 600 BF-109's.

It also sends 100 Panzerkampfwagen II tanks and 300 Opel Blitz trucks.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 09:18
Any chance I can still join in?

I'd love to be Austria-Germanies main ally.

If not that then Italy maybe.

I grew up learning about WWII.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 09:20
Sure man be any nation you want, Major powers still open tho are Britian, China,and Italy and lots of smaller countrys.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 09:27
January 15, 1938

Austria declares full support to germany, and pledges full aligence to The Führer.

All Austrian units prepare to advance under Germany's orders.

The Austrian motto is changed to "Ruhm zum Führer!"

(I thought I'd see what it's like to be on the other side. By the way, during this war will you be conducting the heavy water research? or will you only go as far as V2's?)
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 09:33
I will be doing research when I think I might need it, right now im working on ground research and air-to-ground aircraft and im working on upgrades on ships.

But, as you see the war in Spain is going on so im kinda getting research for that problem.

You don't have to do every thing that I say, you can run freely as your own nation, but if your going to be in the Axis I want you to help 100% if something should happen and by the end of this war you will be the size of the old Austria-Hungary.
Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 09:41
The Soviet union declares war on Germany and France
The Volga
20-04-2004, 09:43
Could I be a Corps/Army commander for a nation? Like I could handle operations in one theatre, and you could feed me support etc.?
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 09:50
January 17th, 1938

Austria begins to build a massive army, with help and advice from Germany. Austria asks for advice from German engineers, to help them build their army up.

Nazi Uniforms are issued to the troops, who now serve the Reich.

http://members.aol.com/dennisr48/german/NAZ9.JPG

Austria begins to round up political enemies and communists, to eliminate any competition to the new alliance. Those who do not comply are shot.
The Volga
20-04-2004, 09:52
I'd definetly prefer to work for TIN, though (Austria). Commanding an Austrian Corps/Division would be v.nice
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 09:55
The Soviet union declares war on Germany and France

OOC: that was fast... no army build up? no offer of negotiation? in the real WWII, for a time Germany and the Union had a non-agression pact.

IC: Austria will defend it's ally if the Soviet union attacks.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 09:57
I'd definetly prefer to work for TIN, though (Austria). Commanding an Austrian Corps/Division would be v.nice

If he says yes, think of a name for yourself, and i'll place you in command of the Austrian Panzer Corps, or the Austrian Luftwaffe.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:00
Volga you may.

Also because of Russia's declaration of war, I am pulling out troops of Spain, and I am advising France and her allies, to fight along with the Axis until this new enemy is destroyed.

I am mobilizing troops, but since their is no land to get to Russia, I might have to declare war to get to Russia, and I am well prepared to do so.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:06
Austria will mobolise it's troops to help Germany fight this menace.

(BTW, what was Austria's pop in WW2?)
The Volga
20-04-2004, 10:06
I'd definetly prefer to work for TIN, though (Austria). Commanding an Austrian Corps/Division would be v.nice

If he says yes, think of a name for yourself, and i'll place you in command of the Austrian Panzer Corps, or the Austrian Luftwaffe.I'm thinking......General Heinz Liechstein, courageous leader of the 1st Austrian Panzer Army.
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:07
The Soviet union declares war on Germany and France

OOC: that was fast... no army build up? no offer of negotiation? in the real WWII, for a time Germany and the Union had a non-agression pact.

IC: Austria will defend it's ally if the Soviet union attacks.

OOC: Not in 1938 they didn't (non-agression pact). And the Soviet army was being built up over the 1930's... But not a move i would make if i was Joe himself :lol: But besides, how is he going to get through Poland as well and go all the way through Germany to France? Finland alone gave the USSR enough trouble in 1939...

IC: January 18th. Mass labour strike rocks Poland. Prominent socialist figure Norbert Barlicki pressures government to resign and hold new elections.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:13
January 19th, 1938

Request Poland give the Axis acces threw Danzig to get to East Prussia.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:13
I'd definetly prefer to work for TIN, though (Austria). Commanding an Austrian Corps/Division would be v.nice

If he says yes, think of a name for yourself, and i'll place you in command of the Austrian Panzer Corps, or the Austrian Luftwaffe.I'm thinking......General Heinz Liechstein, courageous leader of the 1st Austrian Panzer Army.

January 20th, 1938

4-star General Heinz Liechstein, hero from WW1, is given command of the 1st Austrian Panzer division, as well as the responsibility of building new Panzers.

Austria begins propoganda campaign, making Russia look evil and corrupt. Mass execution of political opponents begin.

Austrian officials grow concerned as Poland will have to be invaded to attack the Soviet Union. this could anger the rest of Europe before the main plans go into action.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:15
I would like to not have another war, Spain and Russia and Britian behind my back looking over my shoulders is enough I need.
The Volga
20-04-2004, 10:15
Actually, the Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger I wasn't brought into production until July '42
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:17
Actually, the Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger I wasn't brought into production until July '42

well that's messed up my rp. well just forget i said that, and build what we're allowed to.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:22
We will get threw the weak Russians, but I will not declare war on the Polish, I will get to them threw them another way

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/ja2.jpg
The Volga
20-04-2004, 10:23
Actually, the Panzerkampfwagen VI Tiger I wasn't brought into production until July '42

well that's messed up my rp. well just forget i said that, and build what we're allowed to.I think I've got Panzer IV's....just....and Panzer III's

How large is your Panzer Corps? How many tanks do I have? And where are my forces moving?
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:26
I will give your Panzer Corps the amount of supplys and weapons we it needs. I am planning the best way to get to Russia without a costly airdrop or a amphibious assult.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:26
I think historicly we were about half the strengh of Germany. We wait to see what germany plans to do before we move. Just concetrate on construction.
Ilwrath Vengeance
20-04-2004, 10:29
This thread looks cool, can I play Hungary?

Population: between 8 and 9 million
Army: trained by Germany, equpped with German weapons
Govt: Fascist Silver Arrows
Friendly with Germany and Italy, opposed to Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia

btw, Austria's WWII population was about 7 million.

The Hungarian Government thanks Germany for its assistance, and requests German endorsement of Hungarian claims to Transylvania, Banat, Slovakia, Burgenland, and Croatia together with the Dalmatian Coast. In exchange for this we will pledge our eternal alliance with the German Reich and its Austrian allies. We would also like to enter into trade negotiations with the German, Austrian, and Italian governments.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:30
January 21, 1938

Germany meets with Austrain military staff with a plan to get to russia, and many other resources along the way.

http://mars.acnet.wnec.edu/~grempel/courses/ww2/maps/a1939eu.gif
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:32
January 19th, 1938

Request Poland give the Axis acces threw Danzig to get to East Prussia.

Access is granted, provided Germany meets these conditions.

1. Assistance in building up Polish industry by all nations that are to use the corridor, specifically large shipyards in Danzig.
2. Annexation to Poland after victory over the Soviet Union the territories of West Ukraine and Belorussia, including the city of Minsk.
3. End of German support to Ukrainian nationalists.
4. Relenquishing of German claims upon the city and surrounding lands of Danzig, and adknowledging that it is part of Poland for now and the future.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:33
Sorry but I couldn't find a map with Austrian still their.

But, do you think moving threw Hungary and Romania would be good?

Or Lithuania, Latvia, and maybe Estonia?
The Volga
20-04-2004, 10:34
I'm think a full Panzer Division:

1st Austrian Panzer Division
Officers: 400
Officials: 100
Non-Commisioned Officers: 2000
Enlisted Men/Crews: 9300
Total Strong: 11800
Machine Guns: 220
Mortars: 50
Infantry Guns: 10
37mm Pak guns: 50
Howitzers & Cannons: 28
20mm Flak guns: 12
Armored Scout Cars: 100
Tanks: 324
Trucks: 1400
Passenger Cars: 560
Motorcycles: 1300
Sidercars: 700


I'll work this out in more detail ASAP
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:35
Sorry but I couldn't find a map with Austrian still their.

But, do you think moving threw Hungary and Romania would be good?

Or Lithuania, Latvia, and maybe Estonia?

Wait sure ill meet your condtions, sorry I got confused.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:35
If we can get permission from poland to invade Russia, all the better. Otherwise, we can just wait and see. If Russia invades poland, we may then be able to invade with European support. Until then, perhaps a bombing campaign with the Luftwaffe would be the best idea.
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:38
Edit: Nevermind, i read your edited post
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:38
Now we have permission, I suggest a full Blitzkreig attack, with co-operation between our footsoldiers, Luftwaffe and Panzer divisions for one lightning manuver. the quicker we get to moscow, the sooner we can secure a surrender.

But poland concerns me. they demand so much. Sure, with the defeat of russia we will recieve a massive boost i resources. But is it worth giving poland so much? I mean, poland used to be part of Germany.
Ilwrath Vengeance
20-04-2004, 10:39
Hungary will allow movement of German and Austrian troops through its territory, but the Royal Military will not be participating in this attack on the Soviet Union. The Hungarian Government calls on Germany and Austria to respect its citizens and property and to refrain from causing damage.

Hungarian forces are mobilizing on the Czechoslovak border and preparing to advance up the Danube to Pozsony (Bratislava, Pressburg).
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:41
Now we have permission, I suggest a full Blitzkreig attack, with co-operation between our footsoldiers, Luftwaffe and Panzer divisions for one lightning manuver. the quicker we get to moscow, the sooner we can secure a surrender.

But poland concerns me. they demand so much. Sure, with the defeat of russia we will recieve a massive boost i resources. But is it worth giving poland so much? I mean, poland used to be part of Germany.

And that region we asked for was once a part of Poland.

We also have a claim on the Baltic States.

Negotiation towards reunification with Lithuania has begun.

OOC: someone want to fill in temporarily for the Lithuanians?
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:42
Yes that would be a good idea.

JG 52

JG 53

JG 300

JG 3

JV 44

and im trying to get new fighters and new bombers up their on the front.

Also the Kriegsmarine is out fighting fit.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:46
January 22nd, 1938

http://www.expeditionexchange.com/wedco/panzer.jpg

All Austrian panzer units are being sent to the border, ready to make their way through poland on Germany's request.

Airfields are being prepped, with heavy bombers and Mesershmitt fighters being readied to attack the Union.

The Austrian Government calls for the soviet union to back down
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:46
January 22nd.

Labour strikes in Poland end for the time being, with the government promising great things and better times for Poland in the future.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 10:50
The time we go is the new month of Febuary, cause I need commanders to see what they have learned in Spain and put new ideas to the test, and im getting men up to the border.
Ilwrath Vengeance
20-04-2004, 10:51
The Hungarian Government issues a statement to the Czechoslovak Government to the effect that the region of Slovakia is historically part of the indivisible Hungarian nation, and that Czechoslovakia must therefore relinquish control of the area immediately or face invasion. Hungary also calls for a plebiscite on the future of the German minority in the Sudetenland. Th Hungarian government also reaffirms its claims to Transylvania, Croatia, Banat, Burgenland, and Dalmatia.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 10:57
Aggreed. we will wait also.

(Mainly because it looks like the guy playing the union has gone offline.)

January 23rd, 1938

TOP SECRET

Austrian officials meet Werner Von Braun, Expert scientist working for the German Army. Von Braun is experimenting with somthing called "Jet Propulsion" , which may revolutionise the Aircraft industry. Von Braun has come to meet some of the brilliant scientists at some of Austria's top universities, to recruit new researchers for a secret German weapons plan.

Roumors have been circulating that Germany is no match for the soviet union. these claims have been dismissed as "Ludicrous".
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 10:57
The Hungarian Government issues a statement to the Czechoslovak Government to the effect that the region of Slovakia is historically part of the indivisible Hungarian nation, and that Czechoslovakia must therefore relinquish control of the area immediately or face invasion. Hungary also calls for a plebiscite on the future of the German minority in the Sudetenland. Th Hungarian government also reaffirms its claims to Transylvania, Croatia, Banat, Burgenland, and Dalmatia.

We will support Hungarian claims on all areas in exchange for Hungarian adknowledgement and support of Polish Claims.

OOC: Cool name, btw. Star Control rocks.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 11:01
Dose anyone have a good map of the Soviet Union?

With names of towns and cities, better yet I would like a site to the place.
Ilwrath Vengeance
20-04-2004, 11:04
Hungary gratefully accepts the offer of the Polish Government and announces its endorsement of all Polish territorial claims. We also wish to suggest a joint invasion of Czechoslovakia, where Poland will acquire the disputed Teschen region and Hungary will regain Slovakia, should negotiations with the Czechs break down.

In a separate news item, the Hungarian Government today announced an enormous financial subsidy, claimable by any Hungarian family, for having more children. The more children a family has, the more money it will receive from the Government. This measure is to ensure that never again will the Magyars be a minority in their own country, as Hungary is shortly expected to reabsorb millions of Slovaks, Croatians, Germans, and Romanians.
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 11:04
Dose anyone have a good map of the Soviet Union?

With names of towns and cities, better yet I would like a site to the place.

I'll find one later, and outline the territory I want on it.
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 11:05
Austria, any sources you need I will give, I want to make sure your forces are fighting with the best fighting equipment

http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/posters/waffen.jpg
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 11:11
we greatfully accept Germany's slupplies, they will be put to good use.
The Volga
20-04-2004, 11:32
Just warn me when you're about to move. If I'm not online, then control of the Panzers switches to TIN.
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 11:33
Hungary gratefully accepts the offer of the Polish Government and announces its endorsement of all Polish territorial claims. We also wish to suggest a joint invasion of Czechoslovakia, where Poland will acquire the disputed Teschen region and Hungary will regain Slovakia, should negotiations with the Czechs break down.

An excellent proposition.

Though we do feel that the Czechs should be left with some autonomy.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 11:45
-Private message to Chancellor Hitler, Berlin-

It is deeply concerning to us that Hungary and Poland are becomming agressive, using the Soviet war for their own gains. But if we let them fight it out, if it comes to an invasion, we will be able to take them down easier, as they will be weakened from battle.

I would suggest we let them cary on for now, and should they become more agressive, we will occupy them.
20-04-2004, 11:54
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Navoya Russia
20-04-2004, 12:19
troops march into Europe and Invade Norway, scandinavia and Belgium
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 12:21
Poland has begun a large military buildup.

In construction-

3 infantry divisions, with supporting artillery = 60,000 men
1 tank division using new 20TP medium tanks (OOC: Fictional, but based on Polish designs like the 14TP. This tank has a 50mm gun like the Panzer III) =15,000 men

5 squadrons of "Los" Tactical Bombers. = 100 aircraft, in total 1,000 men to fly and maintain them.
PZL P37B "Los"
http://www.polandinexile.com/images/plane02.gif
6 squadrons of "Karas" Dive bombers = 120 aircraft, and 700 men to fly and maintain them.
"Karas" Dive Bomber
http://www.polandinexile.com/images/plane01.gif

This equipment will be ready for mobilisation in 6-8 months.

We are seeking an air-to-air fighter plane to purchase in order fill a technological gap in our airforce while designs on the PZL.50 (OOC: it is a real aircraft, but I couldn't find pics right now) are finished. Any nations, please make offers.
Veredia
20-04-2004, 12:22
OOC: Wondering if I could join this, I'd like to be just Canada, but since the Britain guy left, I could be him also if you people wanted...
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 12:25
OOC: Wondering if I could join this, I'd like to be just Canada, but since the Britain guy left, I could be him also if you people wanted...

OOC: Maybe you could fill in as the entire commonwealth until the other countries are taken again? That would be fine by me...Anyone else care?
Kanabia
20-04-2004, 12:30
troops march into Europe and Invade Norway, scandinavia and Belgium

OOC: WHOA. the USSR had enough trouble invading just Finland historically after a year more preperation than you had. One country at a time please. (Or more but countries on your borders please.) And how the hell did you supposedly get to Belgium? The USSR didn't have a strong enough navy to do that and get supplies there also.
Veredia
20-04-2004, 12:32
OOC: Uh, sure then, but I can't post until this evening, I gotta get going in five minutes.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 12:36
The Austrian front is alarmed at this early strike on Europe by the Soviet Union. Troops are being given fianl prep, and on Germany's order, we will launch a Blitzkrieg on the Russian fools.
Naribia
20-04-2004, 12:42
Im Going to be Spain, i declere war on Britain and Attack Gibralter and send a few Air-Craft to bomb the UK.
The Imperial Navy
20-04-2004, 12:55
Im Going to be Spain, i declere war on Britain and Attack Gibralter and send a few Air-Craft to bomb the UK.

we need to know the actual ammount of bombers and escorts you are sending. and what aircraft are you sending. and, why are you going to war with the UK? Finally, are you aware that germany is securing control of Spain?
Fourth Reich SS
20-04-2004, 17:34
I will advise nations to still join this RP.

And cause of Russia's action. :lol:
Chellis
21-04-2004, 00:52
OOC:

First off, ignoring Russias attack. He obviously has no idea about geography, nor the weakness of russia in 38.

Second, ignoring spain's general actions. Spain is in the middle of civil war, it can hardly fight in its own country, it wont attack a nation thats at least partially supporting it. The nationalists might, but they are in a weakened place right now because they lost Teruel(origionally where the republicans lost and started a downfall from, I've poured in reinforcements).

Russia has to either go through austria or poland to get to germany, and then germany to get to france. Your navy is pathetic compared to the rising kriegsmarine or decent french navy(We got fucked after ww1 on navy, but we have a few good designs that are well maintained ships with well trained men). Also, russia is relying mostly on bi-planes for aircraft support, a force of say Farman F222.3's could reach any city in ukraine, or almost to the volga, from austrian airfields.

IC:

January 29th:

France requests a meeting between germany and france(Without britain) to discuss war plans and possibly an agreement about the situation in spain.

France also begins retooling armoured car factories to produce anti-tank and anti-aircraft guns, of which we have some of the best in the world and feel they better support a defensive war than offensive war, which we have no need of. Charles de gualle is, however, given command of one armoured division, and if they preform well in training, we may make more.

Inquiries to america have been made about attaining aircraft and weaponry; Some factories have been retooled from the MAS 36 to either Mas 38's or Chauchats, as we feel our infantry simply cannot pour enough lead in a fire-fight.

Ignoring disarmament agreements with america and britain previously, france has begun making more naval ships, but at a slow rate. Navy is not our specialty, and we shall use it only as we need it, not as a threat to others.
The Cottonmouth
21-04-2004, 02:29
OOC: I hate to ask for a postition this late in the RP, but it seems no one has taken the spot of Japan, or at least they arent RPing it.

Im asking if I can RP Imperial Japan, and if I can I need to know who is RPing America. Thanks.
Samtonia
21-04-2004, 02:34
Hey all. Just saw this. I was wondering if I would be able to take a place in this RP. Possibly as everyone's favorite underdog, the Finns? I'll stat posting once I get the ok.
Crimsdale
21-04-2004, 02:52
look down
Fourth Reich SS
21-04-2004, 05:38
Ya that would be the best thing.

I now have a new spot for Russia, that has not started war.
Fourth Reich SS
21-04-2004, 05:41
Since of this new change I have replaced the men in that were in Spain.

Also, Austria, I offer a plan.

And you may be Japan.
Crimsdale
21-04-2004, 05:46
USAnews: Today test were held at pearl harbour. Carriers and cruisers were seen patrolling the coastal island and testing munitions.

The president signed a new budget bill providing more spending for naval and air forces.

Around the world:

Russia has yet to take a stance in the European crisis. The President has yet to comment.

Britian prepares coastal defenses as Anerican forces arrive by air to fort Charles in Benhiem.
Chellis
21-04-2004, 05:48
OOC: Why are there such idiots who join this?

WW2 has not started yet america. Also, why would you just invade mexico? America is very isolationist, and congress would not support an attack like that.

Seeing as we got rid of russia, I withdraw the conference thing but offer you a new meeting, again without britain.

IC:

Withdrawing from the London and washington naval pacts, France begins work on more Richelieu class battleships, taking away from other naval projects. We feel a modern navy with battleships that other ships simply cannot penetrate with guns is vital.
Fourth Reich SS
21-04-2004, 05:49
As Germay enjoys its peace time, it enjoys the spoils of peace.

http://www.kompanie1.co.uk/12thss/condom1.jpg
Crimsdale
21-04-2004, 05:52
OOC: Why are there such idiots who join this?

WW2 has not started yet america. Also, why would you just invade mexico? America is very isolationist, and congress would not support an attack like that.

Seeing as we got rid of russia, I withdraw the conference thing but offer you a new meeting, again without britain.

IC:

Withdrawing from the London and washington naval pacts, France begins work on more Richelieu class battleships, taking away from other naval projects. We feel a modern navy with battleships that other ships simply cannot penetrate with guns is vital.

Ok than I'll dip into the text books and think of a good plan.
Chellis
21-04-2004, 06:06
February 1st:

The French navy is in full swing! The heavy guns of the FR Strasbourg fire at nationalist elements holding out in cities miles away from the coast, spotter aircraft escorted by the few modern planes the french have to help against any attackers, although much more likely they would just fly back to the protective heavy AA cover of the navy.

Republican and french forces begin sweeping through nationalist taken towns, the superior french tanks blowing away the Pz 38t's and whatnot the spanish nationalists were able to scrounge up(in fall weiss, the germans used Pz 38t's, Pz 35t's, and PzII's as the main forces, PzIII's and IV's a minimal role... more than a year before, germany is really really crappy in the tank department + numbers.).

The FR Strasbourg in transit to spain!

http://navalhistory.flixco.info/images/Fr%20Dunkerque%202.jpg
Fourth Reich SS
21-04-2004, 06:21
As the situation in Spain increases, the Germans react by sending:

Heeresgruppe A (1)

1.Gebirgs-Division

1.Infanterie-Division

3.Infanterie-Division

1.Panzer-Division

Are being sent by German boats and since no war is with France, I highly recommend until German units are operational as a expeditionary force aidding Spain.
Chellis
21-04-2004, 06:29
OOC: You sure you wanna do that? You don't havea huge military, but if you wanna spread out...

IC:

France, worried about german movements into spain, begin bombing of nationalist cities by Farman F222.3's and other bombers, mostly night raids to help avoid enemy aircraft. Also, infantry units are being readied to move in, and France moves as much navy as it can into the english coast, to deny germany free movement(French forces will demand they stop and be searched if they cross in french or british waters, which make up the channel.

Italy has been contacted by france, as it is frances major opponent in mediterranean naval control. France hopes to come with an agreement with italy.
Fourth Reich SS
21-04-2004, 06:38
OOC:Yes I might be stretching my forces thin, but France itself has military problems, including Frances low birth rate of the time.

As this problem, German steps up its tank program and the army groups have not reached Spain.

OOC: I was wandering do you have any good maps of Spain that shows cities during the Civil war?
Chellis
21-04-2004, 07:14
OOC: Yet we were able to have a larger army that germany in 1940 :P

IC: AT and AA gun production are the highest in more than ten years, this month. This just goes to show the french initiative towards AT and AA guns, and away from armour. Artillery production is also being coverted more to multi-purpose Artillery and AT guns.

OOC: Not of civil war, but best modern map by far.

http://www.multimap.com/
The Volga
21-04-2004, 07:49
Perhaps this Panzer Corps is too advanced. If you think so, just tell me. It is a pretty heavy tank Brigade I've made, double strength compared to regular German ones of the time. Not all the commanders have names, but the majority do. When I have some time I'll think some up. The Corps is currently at full strength, and obviously over time that will change with breakdowns, desertions etc.
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1st Austrian Panzer Corps

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1st Austrian Panzer Division - General-Colonel Leichstein

1st Austrian Panzer Brigade - General Fessmann
1st Austrian Panzer Regiment - Colonel Spiel
Panzer I - 96
Panzer II - 160
Panzer III - 48
Panzer IV - 80
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
2nd Austrian Panzer Regiment - Colonel Tagstein
Panzer I - 96
Panzer II - 160
Panzer III - 48
Panzer IV - 80
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

1st Austrian Panzergrenadiere Brigade - General Weichs
1st Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel Terputz
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
2nd Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel Gneisenau
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

2nd Austrian Panzergrenadiere Brigade - General Klessen
3rd Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel Furst
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
4th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel Schultz
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

Support Depot (for use with other units) - Colonel Fleitz
Trucks - 1400
Passenger Cars - 560
Motorcycles - 1300
Sidecars - 700
Armoured Scouts - 100
20mm Flak Guns - 12
37mm Pak Guns - 50
88mm Flak/Pak - 28
Mortars - 50
Infantry Guns - 10

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1st Austrian Panzergrenadiere Division - General-Colonel Mannheim

3rd Austrian Panzergrenadiere Brigade - General Baden
5th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
6th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

4th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Brigade - General Metternich
7th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
8th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

5th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Brigade - General Daun
9th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot
10th Austrian Panzergrenadiere Regiment - Colonel
Panzergrenadiere - 1,500
Other Weaponry added from Support Depot

Support Depot (for use with other units) - Colonel Gerl
Trucks - 1500
Passenger Cars - 600
Motorcycles - 2000
Sidecars - 1000
Armoured Scouts - 30
20mm Flak Guns - 18
37mm Pak Guns - 75
88mm Flak/Pak - 28
Mortars - 75
Infantry Guns - 15

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Ilwrath Vengeance
21-04-2004, 07:49
The Hungarian Government requests a conference over the future of Czechoslovakia, as it has grave concerns over the treatment of the Slovak, Magyar, German, and Polish minorities in the country. Hungary proposes that it annexes Slovakia and Ruthenia, the territories lost by Hungary in WW1, that Poland acquires the Teschen district, and that Germany and Austria gain the Sudetenland. The Czech heartland is to remain independent.

Hungary also opens diplomatic initiatives to the USA, Italy, and France, offering favoured trading terms if those nations will agree to send experts to help develop Hungarian industry and supply the nation with arms.

News flash: A mass grave of Croats has been discovered in eastern Croatia, a largely Serbian populated area of Yugoslavia. The Belgrade government denies having committed the atrocity and mobilises its forces of the interior. Croatian nationalist forces also mobilise. Yugoslavia is on the brink of civil war. Hungary mobilises 30000 men on its border, ready to protect the Magyars in Yugoslavia.

News flash: The Regent of Hungary, Miklos Horthy, today invited Otto von Hapsburg to take the Hungarian throne as Apostolic King, though as a constitutional monarch.

News flash: Today the Hungarian Nationalist Party of Transylvania accused the Romanian government of imprisoning Hungarian leaders in Kolozsvar. The Hungarian Government expresses grave dissatisfaction at this action and concern for the welfare of the Hungarian, Szekely, and German minorities in Transylvania.
Chellis
21-04-2004, 08:59
French officials are coming to meet with hungarians about various things...

OOC: Ya austria, to advanced. Its 1938. You should have no Pz IV's, they were just invented. PzIII's arent in high numbers at all, not till early africa. You should have PzII's, Pz 35t's, and Pz 38t's, if all that.
The Imperial Navy
21-04-2004, 09:12
January 31st, 1938

Austria declares it's intentions to merge and become part of Germany, becomming one big Germany. This may anger other nations, as it would be a breach of the versai treaty.

Austria replies to this, saying that the treaty is already in ashes.
The Imperial Navy
21-04-2004, 09:14
OOC: Yet we were able to have a larger army that germany in 1940 :P

Frances big mistake was the Maginot Line, which the german luftwaffe just flew right over. Had the french been prepared, it may have just been another war of attrition. But they didn't expect a full attack from the air.
The Imperial Navy
21-04-2004, 09:25
I just looked into WW2 history... and this is due to happen...

1938 March 12,
Anschluss: Austria is annexed to the "Greater German Reich Groszdeutschland" ("Blumenkrieg"). On 15 March Hitler in Vienna.

(Effectively, I'm about to just become one of your commanders...)
Ilwrath Vengeance
21-04-2004, 09:59
Hungary wishes to express its dissatisfaction at the Anschluss of Austria with Germany, but also its willingness to endorse it if certain conditions are met, notably the cession to Hungary of the ancient Hungarian province of Burgenland.

Regent Horthy, Foreign Minister Oszkar Jaszi, and King Otto welcome the French representatives to Budapest, throwing a lavish party in the old town. The Hungarian Government hopes that a strong bond between the two nations will result from these negotiations.

News flash: Croatian paramilitary forces begin a major offensive in the Vojvodina, driving toward Belgrade. The official Yugoslav army has disintegrated into Serbian factions and Croatian. Hungary declares its obligation to protect its interests in Yugoslavia, notably the Zara-Budapest railway and the Magyar minority. Regent Horthy registers his opinion that the state of Yugoslavia is untenable, and that a general conference is required to address the issue, as in the Czechoslovak issue.

News flash: Anti-Czech riots in Komarno by Magyars and Slovaks calling for an end to the Czechoslovak Republic and autonomy or return to Hungary of the regions of Slovakia and Ruthenia.
The Imperial Navy
21-04-2004, 10:41
I have found a map of germanys expansion from 1933 to 1940:

http://www.euronet.nl/users/wilfried/ww2/protecto.htm
Veredia
21-04-2004, 12:16
OOC: Sorry I haven't posted earlier, I still need to do research into the vehicles and weapons used by the different Commonwealth countries, and also the different events that happened.

IC:

Britain wishes to meet with Hitler to discuss the violations of the Versailles treaty and a way to bring an end to the rising tensions and threat of war, by negotiating the return and setting of new borders to help Germany reclaim some of its lost lands, without the need for threatening war, or the militarization of Germany.

Canada, seeing the rising tensions, is issueing contracts to Canadian companies for the development and production of 500 new Cruiser tanks to outfit an armoured division. Also, the RCAF has issued a call for additional fighters and bombers. Britain is following suit and is also beginning to build up its military, while other Commonwealth nations are also doing their part to strengthen their armed forces.
Kanabia
21-04-2004, 14:18
OOC: Now that russia is gone, are we going to ignore our agreement over access to the polish corridor? polish military buildup and agreement with hungary still stands though.

I will advise nations to still join this RP.
Sorry, didn't mean to takeover :lol:

IC: Poland approaches Britain expressing interest in the Hurricane I fighter aircraft, and inquires about a possible purchase (OOC: They sold them to Finland IRL, so....).

The cruisers "Dragon" and "Jan Kazimierz" are half completed and will be ready for deployment by the end of the year.

Negotiations with Lithuania towards reunification are making progress, but the Lithuanians want to maintain political and civil autonomy.
The Imperial Navy
21-04-2004, 14:26
We still await Germany's answer to our request of merge, but Our leader is prepared to resign should germany want to change leaders, for a german representative.
The Volga
22-04-2004, 09:04
Ok, no Panzer IV's....I think I'll just move and become a nation leader. Since we have no Russia, how about me? I'm pretty sure I can research roughly what Russia had.
22-04-2004, 10:34
We have an army of 3000 hardened Rasta's armed with automatic weapons and grenades.

Our elite, mobile army can be despatched to Europe within the next two weeks.

It is expected we will dock in Portsmouth on the 1st of March 1939.
Ilwrath Vengeance
22-04-2004, 10:48
Hungary wants to strengthen its alliance with Poland and makes overtures to Britain with a view to purchasing British military aircraft, particularly the prototype Spitfire aircraft. We also request that the European nations recognise Hungary's claims to the various regions that were part of the medieval Hungarian empire up to 1918.

News flash: Serbian forces begin a major counter-offensive, driving to within 15 miles of Zagreb. Hungarian forces occupy the Banat and the Zara-Budapest railroad, in order to protect Hungarian interests. Hungarian representatives are also meeting with top-level Croatian leaders about certain topics.
Kanabia
22-04-2004, 13:03
Poland welcomes Hungarian efforts to strenghten our mutual relationship and we wish to sign a mutual defence pact.
Kanabia
22-04-2004, 13:05
Poland welcomes Hungarian efforts to strenghten our mutual relationship and we wish to sign a mutual defence pact.
Kanabia
22-04-2004, 13:06
Poland welcomes Hungarian efforts to strenghten our mutual relationship and we wish to sign a mutual defence pact.
22-04-2004, 16:04
The Jamaican Army lands at Portsmouth harbour.

They are equipped by the British Expeditionary Force with 30 tanks, several heavy machine guns and a squadron of 'Beckton Bazoka Badboys'.

Next stop Berlin to wipe the floor with Hitler.
22-04-2004, 16:13
'Here we go' Shouts Rudi, as the Jamaican Army march aboard their boat out of Portsmouth harbour headed for Calais.

'We gonna stop de evil man Hitler before 'e attacks da world' crys one of the rasta's!!

The Jamaican Army are led by the soothsayer Rasta Rudi who has predicted that Hitlers attacks on Europe will be halted by the Uk before the yanks will join in a couple of years too late. He also predicts that Hitler will take his own live but that he reckons the Jamaicans should 'just make sure'.

Rasta Rudi is armed with a couple of machine guns and is excellently trained in the art of repelling bullshit.

However, the Jamaican's would like to offer peace to anyone who wants it (apart from the Nazi's) as they'd like to know more about other communities!

Right on dudes!!
Universal Government
22-04-2004, 17:55
Ill be U.S.A.

We sign a peace treaty with Germany.
Samtonia
23-04-2004, 01:48
(What year is it? Just wondering if the Soviet Union has invaded us yet. If it's 1939, probably yes. Earlier, no.)
Chellis
23-04-2004, 03:57
As the jamacian navy heads towards calais, the french navy based in the english channel begin firing on jamacian naval ships and AT guns from shore begin firing when the jamacians get in range. From Calais, 6 Breguet light bombers take off and start to straf and bomb the jamacians.

France sends a message to jamacia, to not try to land military units in its country without asking.

OOC:Why is everyone being retarded? Jamacia, its not even 1939. America, you do have to talk to germany before signing a peace treaty you know.
Ilwrath Vengeance
23-04-2004, 07:35
The Hungarian Government is delighted to accept the Polish offer of a mutual defence pact and announces its support of the restoration of the medieval Polish kingdom, including the lands of Lithuania, Prussia, Belarus, Silesia, and Western Ukraine, should it be Poland's aim to restore its historic possessions.

News flash: Serbian forces shell Zagreb. The Croatian leader Mihailovic accepts in desperation a Hungarian offer of assistance on the condition that Croatia and Banat are to become Hungarian territory, where Croatia will become an autonomous Hungarian province both with its own parliament and with a say in the Budapest Parliament. The Hungarian Government also wishes to restate the necessity of an immediate European conference over the fate of Czechoslovakia and Romania.
The Volga
23-04-2004, 07:55
ooc: ooooook. i'll just presume i'm allowed to be the USSR

ic:
Josef Stalin is greatly troubled by the aggressive actions of the Poles and Hungarians. Fearing attack, he orders the formation of the 1st Byelorussian Front. In it is contained:

1st Tank Army
4th Guards Army
15th Army
27th Army
3rd Air Army
6th Air Army

But, to delay what could be inevitable, he orders Molotov to open negotiations with both Hungarians and Poles, to see the mood of the respective countries, and whether they can be dealt with easily.
Ilwrath Vengeance
23-04-2004, 09:01
The Hungarian Government wishes to reassure the Soviets that Hungary has no territorial claims on Soviet territory. Hungary wants back the territories that rightfully belong to it and that it lost in 1918. We do indeed support the Poles in their desire to reclaim their old lands, but would be willing to act as a mediator in the event of a crisis. We feel that a strong Polish-Hungarian alliance would probably be in Russia's own interests, as our lands stand between the USSR and its German enemy.
23-04-2004, 09:12
'Those God damned Frenchies!!' cries Rasta Rudi!!

'They'll pay for this injustice'!!!

The attack by the Frogs have left the jamaicans with 5 less tanks and some of their best home grown at the bottom of the English channel.

The Jamaican army immediately regroup and have a think. 'We like drugs so lets go to the home of drugs!!' And so they set a course for Holland, and get on the boatphone to make sure its alright to land on their shores.

'Yar...of course' states the prime minister of Holland, Ronald Koeman!!

The Jamaicans now have two enemies, Hitler and those cheese eating surrender monkeys, the French.
23-04-2004, 09:34
ile play as romania.

PS: i need to know the numbers of a typical German panzer brigade in 1938, and i need some info on romania.
23-04-2004, 10:07
OCC: I would like to play Italy if that is ok?
Tadjikistan
23-04-2004, 11:16
ile play as romania.

PS: i need to know the numbers of a typical German panzer brigade in 1938, and i need some info on romania.

15600 men and 165 panzers(divisional size), dont have stats for 1938, these are from 1941.
What do you need to know about Romania?
Kanabia
23-04-2004, 14:48
The Hungarian Government is delighted to accept the Polish offer of a mutual defence pact and announces its support of the restoration of the medieval Polish kingdom, including the lands of Lithuania, Prussia, Belarus, Silesia, and Western Ukraine, should it be Poland's aim to restore its historic possessions.

News flash: Serbian forces shell Zagreb. The Croatian leader Mihailovic accepts in desperation a Hungarian offer of assistance on the condition that Croatia and Banat are to become Hungarian territory, where Croatia will become an autonomous Hungarian province both with its own parliament and with a say in the Budapest Parliament. The Hungarian Government also wishes to restate the necessity of an immediate European conference over the fate of Czechoslovakia and Romania.

We are pleased at the Hungarian acceptance. We also support the idea of a European conference over Czechoslovakia and Romania.

On the subject of the USSR, we have no comment for Mr.Molotov to return to his superiors. They are fully aware of our claims....

However, our position towards our historical claims in Prussia has not been decided.

March 23rd, 1938-
Lithuania agrees to let Polish troops enter its territory, and signs a total defence pact. While the Lithuanians retain civil autonomy, their military and foreign policy is now under control from Warsaw.

March 24th, 1938-
Poland approaches Bulgaria, with aims to sign a pact, and possibly a three way alliance with Hungary if the Hungarians agree. (OOC: Bulgaria also has claims on Yugoslavia, Romania and Greece. Someone should play them.)
23-04-2004, 17:05
ile play as romania.

PS: i need to know the numbers of a typical German panzer brigade in 1938, and i need some info on romania.

15600 men and 165 panzers(divisional size), dont have stats for 1938, these are from 1941.
What do you need to know about Romania?

general stuff. Bulgarian Military forces,. population, goverment, that kinda thing.

PS: i think ile play as bulgaria instead.
24-04-2004, 05:39
bump! is this thing still active?
Ilwrath Vengeance
24-04-2004, 08:27
Hungary wishes to open negotiations with Bulgaria over both nations' land claims in Romania. Hungary will support Bulgaria's right to the Dobrudja area if the Bulgarians will recognise Transylvania as Hungarian territory. We wholeheartedly support the Polish suggestion of a three-way alliance and wish to come to an agreement with Bulgaria over dealing with the Romanians should they choose to ignore our rights to these territories.

News flash: Hungarian forces join with the Croatians, pushing the Serbs back from Zagreb and advancing on Belgrade. The Hungarian Government, now including the Croatians, offers Serbia and immediate cease fire, but requests Serbia open a dialogue with Bulgaria over Bulgarian claims in the Macedonia region. Our position on the Czech question is unequivocally that Slovakia and Ruthenia, historically Upper Hungary, be immediately returned to Hungary while Poland is to receive the Teschen region. There should be a plebiscite in the Sudetenland to decide the future of its German population.
Tadjikistan
24-04-2004, 13:23
ile play as romania.

PS: i need to know the numbers of a typical German panzer brigade in 1938, and i need some info on romania.

15600 men and 165 panzers(divisional size), dont have stats for 1938, these are from 1941.
What do you need to know about Romania?

general stuff. Bulgarian Military forces,. population, goverment, that kinda thing.

PS: i think ile play as bulgaria instead.


Why Bulgaria? Romania is much bigger.

Well Bulgaria's head of state is king Boris III and the head of Government is Georgi Kioseivanov; chief of staff is Hristo Lukov.
Bulgaria is small, i dont have the exact population but it should be around 3-4 million. The maximum amount you could support is about 20 divisions, some destroyers and(small) subs and offcourse some aircraft(fighters mostly).
An infantry division is called 'Pehotna Divizija', a tank division is a 'Tankova Divizija, a fighter squadron is a 'Iztrebitelen Polk'

Commanding Officers: Boratchev, Radev, Marinov, Lukov, Ayrjanov. All Army commanders if i'm not mistaken.
24-04-2004, 14:18
Is it still to late to pick a country? if not then ill be... Norway i guess...
24-04-2004, 15:13
March 25th, 1938-

"We agree about signing a mutual defence pact. however in return we would like to purchase 5 Brand New Panzer III Models to help refit our tank forces."
The Volga
25-04-2004, 09:24
The USSR is willing to sell you plans to our most advanced tank, the T-28. We can also sell you the T-26, our most common tank. For a fighter, the I-16 is an advanced type, and we can sell the T-3 if you would like a bomber.
United Vicland
25-04-2004, 09:34
I want to be Roëmenia. Can I be?
Ilwrath Vengeance
25-04-2004, 10:32
The Hungarian Government extends its greetings to the new Romanian leader and requests the return to Hungary of the ancient Hungarian province of Transylvania, plus the return to Bulgaria of the Dobrudja.

News flash: Fire at the Headquarters of the Hungarian National Party of Transylvania in Kolozsvar. Hungarian and Szekely national leaders accuse the Romanian Government of oppressing their people in Transylvania. 5 Hungarian divisions mobilise on the Romanian border, having been sent from Yugoslavia after the end of the civil war there.
Kanabia
25-04-2004, 11:16
*SECRET IC*

Polish-Lithuanian proposition to Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania.

Russia is a third-rate military power after purges of its officer corps, but we suspect that it is building up its armed forces in preparation of invasion.

We should focus on building up our armed forces and fortify our borders to counter any possible threat. Bulgaria especially, do not be persuaded otherwise by their recent offer of military equipment. The equipment they have offered, is despite their proclamations to the contrary, poor. The I-16 "Ishak" is substandard and approaching obsolescence, and the tanks that they have offered are useless next to their more advanced models, such as the KV-1.

We persuade Romania to avoid any conflict with our new allies and grant control of Transylvania to Hungary, and the Dobrudja to Bulgaria. In return, when the inevitable Soviet invasion and defeat occurs, Romania shall have sovereignity over part of the Ukraine, including the city of Odessa.

We also recognise Romania's claim over Moldova, shall the USSR attempt to reclaim the region in the near future.
Chellis
25-04-2004, 16:07
OOC:Kanabia, they dont have the Kv-1 yet, fyi. They have crap equipment right now, so it is kinda their best.
25-04-2004, 17:11
ooc: I'd be interested in playing Japan, I realize it was claimed however no actions have been taken yet. I'd be a bit behind but I have read the entire thread and think I can jump in (all the action is happening in Europe so far anyway)

I'll wait for the author to comment before I post
The Volga
26-04-2004, 07:39
*SECRET IC*

Polish-Lithuanian proposition to Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania.

Russia is a third-rate military power after purges of its officer corps, but we suspect that it is building up its armed forces in preparation of invasion.

We should focus on building up our armed forces and fortify our borders to counter any possible threat. Bulgaria especially, do not be persuaded otherwise by their recent offer of military equipment. The equipment they have offered, is despite their proclamations to the contrary, poor. The I-16 "Ishak" is substandard and approaching obsolescence, and the tanks that they have offered are useless next to their more advanced models, such as the KV-1.

We persuade Romania to avoid any conflict with our new allies and grant control of Transylvania to Hungary, and the Dobrudja to Bulgaria. In return, when the inevitable Soviet invasion and defeat occurs, Romania shall have sovereignity over part of the Ukraine, including the city of Odessa.

We also recognise Romania's claim over Moldova, shall the USSR attempt to reclaim the region in the near future.ooc: Well, actually...that IS the most advanced stuff the USSR has at this point in time. And the T-28 wasn't a bad tank, its just it had a complicated engine, which was hard to produce and maintain in the Soviet Union. The mainstay of my Tank Army's is the T-26 (of which I have several thousand...perhaps as many as 5). By far my most numerous air unit is the I-16. KV-1, T-34, Il-2...they don't come 'till '40
The Volga
26-04-2004, 07:54
Latest News in the USSR

Comrade Stalin has ordered the formation of the Ukrainian Front, based in Odessa. Armies of the Air and Land are mustering, clearly to deal a death-blow to the Romanian foe! While our Glorious Leader has refused to release details as to the strength of this force, we can be assured that it is many times more powerful than any enemy it could possibly face! Thousands of tanks, including the huge, powerful T-35 (ooc: not T-34), are preparing for what can only be an offensive action against the Balkan devils!

The Hungarian, Poles, and Bulgarians have been ordered to stay out of what is Soviet business by our Glorious Leader, Josef Stalin. Rumours have spread of the armies they muster to attempt to fight our Brilliant Soldiers! However, Comrade Stalin has ordered thousands upon thousands of men be formed into a glorious new Front, the 1st Belorussian (ooc: ignore the post I made earlier). We can be assured that this hugely powerful force will smite our enemies, and defeat our foes!

In the East, the Siberian Divisions are being formed into new fronts, the 1st and 2nd Far Eastern Fronts. Each is immensely powerful, and if any states in that region decide to take us on, we can be assured of victory, thanks to our superior weapons, and better trained soldiers! Comrade Stalin has stated that he will avoid war in the East if possible, but we can be sure that if the Japs or Chinese do dare tread on our soil, our men will drive them back to their homes!
Chellis
26-04-2004, 08:01
OOC: Just to say, T-34's came in '38 but werent numerous till 42 and on.
The Volga
26-04-2004, 08:07
OOC: Just to say, T-34's came in '38 but werent numerous till 42 and on.uh-uh. I'm pretty sure they came out in '40 (earliest model is called the '39, but it was more commonly known as the "early '40").
Ilwrath Vengeance
26-04-2004, 09:02
In this imminent Romanian-Soviet war, the Hungarian Government offers its support to whichever side will recognise and support Hungary's right to Transylvania. General Deszó Bánffy mobilises another 10 divisions in eastern Hungary, bringing the total to 51 out of Hungary's 37 divisions.

News flash: Plebiscite in Slovakia produces an 82% vote in favour of secession from Czechoslovakia. Hungary recognises this outcome and sends in 4 divisions under General Béla Hunyadi to secure the area from possible Czech military intervention.
The Imperial Navy
26-04-2004, 09:18
Face it people. the author of the thread is gone. Also, that stupid twat pretending to be Jamaica ruined it all.

I'm exiting this RP. Austria (Or what is now southern Greater Germany) is up for grabs.
Ilwrath Vengeance
26-04-2004, 10:55
OK, we need a new Germany, folks.

Any ideas? :?
26-04-2004, 11:23
Ill do it if somone fills me up on what actions germany has taken since around the second post :oops:
26-04-2004, 19:16
ooc: Well I missed this first time around and don't have a country but if you guys want to start a private invite only one I'd be up for that. We'd need a ref though (someone who the ultimate authority of godmod and stupidness is left to)
Kanabia
27-04-2004, 06:36
OOC: I didn't think the Russians had T-34s in 1938, but i was quite sure they had KV-1's, even though they were heavy and well ahead of their time...but you could very well be right. By the way, though the I-15 and I-16 were the most numerous Russian fighter aircraft, they were crap compared to the aircraft of the other major powers. Admittedly though, they didn't really have much of an alternative in 1938. The T-26 tank was numerous, but not a very effective vehicle compared to the German stuff that was coming through (Light tank with 40mm gun, right? Am I thinking of the right vehicle?). Besides, I was gearing up to sell Polish tanks to them. IC, Poland would much rather that than have a psuedo-ally of the Soviet Union in the Balkans. Sorry for any mistakes I might have made anyway, I usually do double check this stuff but it would've taken time that I didn't have.

Also, I would like to start another RP. I think we should make an Invisionfree board though, they are much faster than nationstates.
27-04-2004, 09:22
'End of the line Adolf' whispers Rasta Rudi, as he squeezes off a round from his sniper rifle.

The slug enters Hitler's head above the left eye and his surrounding generals are splattered with evil Nazi brains.

'Hit them bazooka badboys.....now!' Screams Rasta Rudi and from the roof of the Reichstag 30 commando's fire bazooka's down onto the Nazi generals now crouching over Hitlers dead body.

Goebells, Himller and Eichmann are blown to bits. Their Nazi staff cars turned into chared metal.

'Go go go' cry the Jamaican platton leaders and the Rastafarans absail from the roof of the Nazi government building and shoot two yellow flares into the smoke filled Berlin sky.

At once a helicopter Gunship appears and four ropes are dropped picking up the soldiers of Mercy.

Once aboard the helicopter the soldiers relax as they fly back to London for lashings of ginger beer and cream cakes.

Job done, world war averted and thread concluded.

Well done RPers!!!
The Volga
27-04-2004, 09:45
OOC: I didn't think the Russians had T-34s in 1938, but i was quite sure they had KV-1's, even though they were heavy and well ahead of their time...but you could very well be right. By the way, though the I-15 and I-16 were the most numerous Russian fighter aircraft, they were crap compared to the aircraft of the other major powers. Admittedly though, they didn't really have much of an alternative in 1938. The T-26 tank was numerous, but not a very effective vehicle compared to the German stuff that was coming through (Light tank with 40mm gun, right? Am I thinking of the right vehicle?). Besides, I was gearing up to sell Polish tanks to them. IC, Poland would much rather that than have a psuedo-ally of the Soviet Union in the Balkans. Sorry for any mistakes I might have made anyway, I usually do double check this stuff but it would've taken time that I didn't have.

Also, I would like to start another RP. I think we should make an Invisionfree board though, they are much faster than nationstates.Agreed. We need, say, 10 players?

Japan
Germany
USSR
USA
Great Britain
France
Italy
plus any minor powers...in any RP, I would play as Soviet Union, obviously 8)
27-04-2004, 10:02
Also, I would like to start another RP. I think we should make an Invisionfree board though, they are much faster than nationstates.Agreed. We need, say, 10 players?

Japan
Germany
USSR
USA
Great Britain
France
Italy
plus any minor powers...in any RP, I would play as Soviet Union, obviously 8)
I would be in

but dont do it on an invision board i cant stand those things just use proboards or something of the like

btw: this is commieboi
Ilwrath Vengeance
27-04-2004, 10:20
Well, I'd like to keep Hungary in any new thread we create, so whoever does create it please TG me and say where and how to get into the new RPG.

Cheers
Kanabia
27-04-2004, 12:43
Also, I would like to start another RP. I think we should make an Invisionfree board though, they are much faster than nationstates.Agreed. We need, say, 10 players?

Japan
Germany
USSR
USA
Great Britain
France
Italy
plus any minor powers...in any RP, I would play as Soviet Union, obviously 8)
I would be in

but dont do it on an invision board i cant stand those things just use proboards or something of the like

btw: this is commieboi

OK. I'm fine with whatever board as long as it's not here.

I'll go either France or the Commonwealth. I'd still like to double up as Poland though if no-one else does.
27-04-2004, 14:38
hey if this gets off the ground TG me I'd like a country. (I'm still thinking Japan but what ever)
27-04-2004, 15:21
Can I take the Dominican Republic?
Baccardi
27-04-2004, 15:33
I WANT TO BE CANADA!!!

pLEASEE GET BACK TO ME!!
Chellis
27-04-2004, 16:00
I'll be france, but only if its on this board.
Baccardi
27-04-2004, 16:14
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141965


This Rp is somwhat dry....for those who enjoy a good battle...above ^^

I withdraw my request from this Rp...
Fourth Reich SS
29-04-2004, 08:00
BUMP:

Sorry I had computer problems and I would like to start the thread again.
Fourth Reich SS
29-04-2004, 08:07
I would like to start a new thread, say the start of May 1st, 2004.

By then I will make more rules and limits, I want it to be the country's point of view and there may be Field Marshals and major roles also.

I will dig up some new stuff on my new thread, but I had some technical problems so I was not able to see thread.

I want my next thread to be not to historical, cause some people may not be able to be exact to point.

But by May 1st, 2004 I should have a new thread thought out.

FRSS
Fourth Reich SS
29-04-2004, 08:11
And for new tech, I want people to be happy as posible so I will try to make a Tech Tree and Arms Tree, well I will give a example when I make new World War Two RP thread.

I hope people will be pleased with my new thread coming up.
Mattvia
02-05-2004, 09:59
-BUMP-
Mattvia
02-05-2004, 10:36
O drat! I wanted this thread to carry on, it was great, I wanted to be Turkey. :cry:
02-05-2004, 13:19
well I was waiting for the 4th guy to continue it but he doesn't seem to be. We can always start a new one.
02-05-2004, 13:34
Count me in aslong as it isnt historicly accurate, wheres the fun in rping something the way it happened why not just read a book on it :roll:
02-05-2004, 19:05
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3120063#3120063

It has begun sign your bitch asses up