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Grand Master Molay sat in the secret HQ of the KT and Priory of Sion in France.

Sir our men are ready
Let it be done


25 Knights and 5000 Infantry land in Malta. Immediatly members of the PS declare Malta territory of the Knights Templar. The Government of Malta is full of PS members. Hours after the initial landing the KT are in control of Malta.

Are you Xeraph's organization?

Are you Xeraph's organization?

No but my main nation is a good friend of Xeraph. Im the one that asked about the Da Vince Code.

Message from GM Molay:


Yes after centuries in hiding we are back. Since the 14th Century when Pope Clement and King Phillip of France killed many members of our organization we have been in hiding. We led the world to believe we had gone extinct so that we could survive under ground. Now we are back and there will be a new world order. Thank you.

Message from Pope John Paul II to the world:


I urge all nations to attack the Knights Templar. They are a threat to all Christianity not just Catholicism. In their New World Order they wish Christianity to be destroyed. We here at the Vatican will not let that happen and we wish for the worlds support.

Pope John Paul II

As we did in the past so we do in the present and offer sanctury to the Knights, if it should be needed.

To: Knights Templar, Malta

Please be advised that we of the Xeraphian Federation and the Federated Suns have established an Order of the Knights Templar in the tradition of old and ancient laws. We wish to ally ourselves with your Order in the establishment of a Christian New World Order.

To the Vatican: please be advised that we are not the threat you suppose us to be. We stand for and uphold the highest traditions of Cristendom.

Your Holiness's blessing and support in our effort to curtail the forces of Islam is requested.

respectfully,


Alaric, King of Xeraph, Master of the XF Templars

Xeraph check telegrams.

OOC: The reason the pope originally abolished the Templars is that they failed to fight the infidel in the Holy Land and elsewhere. From their taking of Malta they seem to be on the right track. We shall see if they continue their advance.

The Knights of Templar have our official support.

OOC: The Knights Templar have just landed in the midst of 40,000 WA IDF Marines and a Naval Grand Fleet of over 40 combat vessels...at least in the version that is acknowledged by all territory registration threads I know of.

<OOC> If I'm not mistaken, no one has landed yet. We are about to bombard Tyre's coastal and inland areas, then send in the bombers before we land any troops

OOC: The reason the pope originally abolished the Templars is that they failed to fight the infidel in the Holy Land and elsewhere. From their taking of Malta they seem to be on the right track. We shall see if they continue their advance.


OOC: Thats not the reason the Pope abolished them. He really abolished them because he feared they were too powerful and they owned the Holy Grail. The real reason the KT went to the Holy Land was to search for the Grail and thats the reason many people think they became so powerful.

OOC: The Knights Templar have just landed in the midst of 40,000 WA IDF Marines and a Naval Grand Fleet of over 40 combat vessels...at least in the version that is acknowledged by all territory registration threads I know of.


Can we consider this like an alternate universe or different time or something?

OOC: I am talking about the historical Templars, not the fictional ones.

OOC: I am too.

OOC: The Knights Templar have just landed in the midst of 40,000 WA IDF Marines and a Naval Grand Fleet of over 40 combat vessels...at least in the version that is acknowledged by all territory registration threads I know of.


Can we consider this like an alternate universe or different time or something?

OOC: It depends on your tech...if it's modern then alternate universe (if you're fighting Al Anbar, happily alternate) otherwise I couldn't care less.

Al-Anbar says he doesnt have time for war. I guess the RP is called off.

<OOC> Since all of the combatants have modern representatives, there's no reason for this war to be anything other than a conventional one. No WMD or future tech, just good old conventional military weapons.

Well, while we're waiting for Al-Anbar to quit being a pussy, we can evolve this "Order" thing. I've been i contact with 2 other Orders who are interested in forming an alliance of Christian Orders: the Order of the Knights of St. George and the Order of the Swordbearers of St. John.

Do the Knights control the Ark too? If so, we would like to be involved with them. If not, we'd like to fund an expedition.

Well, while we're waiting for Al-Anbar to quit being a pussy, we can evolve this "Order" thing. I've been i contact with 2 other Orders who are interested in forming an alliance of Christian Orders: the Order of the Knights of St. George and the Order of the Swordbearers of St. John.


Thats good. I decided to take Malta because the Knights of Malta were supposedly Knights Templar.

The Ark of the Covenant is presently in the muslim-occupied nation of Turkey. Perhaps an interesting thread would be the liberation of the Ark from unbeliever's hands...whattya think guys?

OOC: In case u guys didnt know GM Molay was the last GM of the Knights Templar.

The Ark of the Covenant is presently in the muslim-occupied nation of Turkey. Perhaps an interesting thread would be the liberation of the Ark from unbeliever's hands...whattya think guys?


Sounds good. To clear things up the Holy Grail was supposedly found by the Knights Templar who were the military arm of the Priory of Sion. The PS supposedly still exists and still holds the Grail. The PS and KT separated in the 13th Century I think.

Matich, I believe your'e right. The Knights of Malta are somehow associated with the KT. There are/were several off-shoots of the KT, such as the Knights of Christ and the various Hospitallier Orders, mostly monks who were humanitarian focussed.

I would most certainly be interested in taking back the Ark (but not putting it in a box in some big government warehouse :D ).

Matich, I believe your'e right. The Knights of Malta are somehow associated with the KT. There are/were several off-shoots of the KT, such as the Knights of Christ and the various Hospitallier Orders, mostly monks who were humanitarian focussed.


Yup. You guys should read the Da Vincy Code.

Another outstanding book is "Holy Blood, Holy Grail".

An amusing but somewhat inaccurate redition of the Grail Legend is the Monty Python movie

Another outstanding book is "Holy Blood, Holy Grail".

An amusing but somewhat inaccurate redition of the Grail Legend is the Monty Python movie


Ya the Monty Python one is funny but the only two things they have in common is the name.

OK, so if we're gonna attack Turkey, I think we should find out who owns it. It might be DT or someone else we know

You have our blessing for this. I recognize your Order and as suck you must listen to no authority but the Popes. Cardinal de Rocher will be sent as my personal envoy to the Knights Templar.

Pope John Paul II

Chellis' list says Bingla and Western Asia claim Turkey.

I thought DT or FR owned Turkey.

Hmmmm....I think Western Asia is a friend. That wouldn't be nice to attack a friend.

Hmmmm....I think Western Asia is a friend. That wouldn't be nice to attack a friend.


No it wouldnt.

Xer TG

Maybe WA would be nice enough to allow a holy expedition.

Maybe WA would be nice enough to allow a holy expedition.


That would be cool.

Matich....TG

Mathias Prime...yeah, we could ask, and if they refuse it might be grounds for a Holy War

TG Xeraph.

Matich TG

Xeraph........telegram.

BUMP

OOC: I did annex Malta about 3 months ago......but I'll just let you go through with this and consider it a different universe or something.

OOC: I did annex Malta about 3 months ago......but I'll just let you go through with this and consider it a different universe or something.


Alright thanx. You might want to take that up with Western Asia he claims to own it also.

Maybe WA would be nice enough to allow a holy expedition.
OOC:
Where from, where to? I'd probably allow it if the numbers were controlled and you are able to provide sufficient logistical support to ensure that no public health and safety issues develop over this expedition. Currently, WA maintains the old crusader castles (or what remain) on Malta, Cyprus, and within mainland WA as parts of the regional history.


WA claims (since...damn, most must be mid-late summer, exceptions marked with an asterix) include the lands contained in the modern day regions that go by the following names:

Main WA:
Israel (all parts)
Lebanon
Western Syria
Jordan
Sinai Peninsula (incl. to 10mi past the Suez Canal)
Turkey (incl. the Bos and Dardanelles)

Removed/Remote:
Malta
Cyprus (at least Turkish part)
Midway Is.
Wake Is.
Guam Is.
Ellesmere Island (SE tip)
Cienfuegos (Cuba, military base grant in perpetuity)*
St. Helena Island Group*

Base Locations/open ports:
N. Oceania (Australia, from Mega Tau by alliance)
S. Africa (from Sniper Country by alliance)
Camp Masada (near to Arda)
Access to NYC (allowed by NY&NJ)
Access to N. Carolina ports (allowed by Menelmacar)*
Access to some W. Coast US ports (allowed by California & Alaska)*

Western Asia,

The Knights Templar (XF) has designated Cyprus as their naval base in the Mediterranean Sea. As we were unaware of your presence on the island, we will not hinder or harass the Turkish portion of which you are in charge.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Master of the Knights Templar (XF)

Maybe WA would be nice enough to allow a holy expedition.
OOC:
Where from, where to? I'd probably allow it if the numbers were controlled and you are able to provide sufficient logistical support to ensure that no public health and safety issues develop over this expedition. Currently, WA maintains the old crusader castles (or what remain) on Malta, Cyprus, and within mainland WA as parts of the regional history.

OOC: Well, we'd be after the Ark of the Covenant, so I'd say ancient cities and historical places of interest. Turkey was mentioned, but we'd definitely have to look into Syria, Israel and Jordan.

I'm sure no health or safety issues would arise, unless somebody tried to stop us.

WA we would like to thank you for your understanding. We would like to take you up on the offer to allow us to have a base on Malta. Thank you.

Maybe WA would be nice enough to allow a holy expedition.
OOC:
Where from, where to? I'd probably allow it if the numbers were controlled and you are able to provide sufficient logistical support to ensure that no public health and safety issues develop over this expedition. Currently, WA maintains the old crusader castles (or what remain) on Malta, Cyprus, and within mainland WA as parts of the regional history.

OOC: Well, we'd be after the Ark of the Covenant, so I'd say ancient cities and historical places of interest. Turkey was mentioned, but we'd definitely have to look into Syria, Israel and Jordan.

I'm sure no health or safety issues would arise, unless somebody tried to stop us.

OOC: It is understood what your goal is in finding the Ark of the Covenant, but as you may or may not know, WA is a largely Jewish state...and the standard laws prevent the removal of historical and cultural artifacts from the places of origin (ie, the specific province of Western Asia) without governmental approval. If the Ark is found it would have to be removed to Jerusalem, not from the country.

Aside from that, so long as your personnel contact provincial, state, and county officials in the area of archeological exploration you should be able to receive permits once you've signed agreements with the local government to respect the historical location issues.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=141765

OOC: Got it, check MT, check your TMs.

Also, just FYI, I've sorta ended up with more forces on St. Helena and other forces landed on the Canary, Madeira, and Azores island groups in relation to ongoing operations in the West African States/Ouidah slaver crisis. I'm not sure if they'll really take over but they're there now in support of humanitarian refugee operations. I also forgot to mention a WA base on Madagascar (I'm checking on its current status), access rights to _Taiwan, and another base on Ell...I'm forgetting some somewhere I know.

The sigil of Baphomet as we know it today appears first with the Knights Templars.



In the crusades, one group of knights, upon reaching the Jerusalem, moved into stables next to the legendary Jerusalem temple,wanting to be next to the temple night and day and protect it.
Hence their name - Knights Templars.
Later on they accumulated great amounts of gold and all sorts of assets which made them richer than some rulers in Europe. Than the rumors appeared that they worship devil. Even today it's hard to tell were some of the stories true, or was it all just an insinuation to create anti - templar hysteria and take over their wealth.
Some Knights admitted that they worshiped Devil in the shape of Baphomet.
Of course, after several hours of torture session, people have a tendency to "admit" more or less everything they are told to, so this can not be considered a reliable proof.
Whatever the case, this is when the "Sigil of Baphomet" first appears.
It should be noted however, that Satanism is not the only religion where some form of Baphomet appears. Wicca had horned god long before the sigil of Baphomet appeared.Ancient Greek fertility god, Pan was worshiped long before xtianity came to be .It is believed that Pan was used by xtians as a model for the image of Devil as they liked to imagine Him in middle ages - horns, tail, cloven hoofs, and goat legs..
Today we hear that Voodoo and Santeria use some forms of Baphomet, and some time ago I found an article on the net that talks about Baphomet worship in Verbena covens.
Taking into account that xtianity started with 12 semi - literate fishermen and farmers 2000 years ago and is now dominant religion on the world, we can only guess wether in 2000 years from now sigil of Baphomet will decorate necklaces and buildings of the "mainstream population".