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ZaS-42 - Combat Strike Fighter of the Next Generation

The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 19:56
ZaS-42'Gecko'

Mark I classification, last edit 2005-01-24. I am amazed at how much utter crap I was capable of typing out eight months ago. O_o This'll go under some major, major re-working.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/54396/astovl.jpg

The ZaS-42 'Gecko' is designed to be Zoogiedom's next generation strike fighter, with unprecedented manueverability, capability, and range. With numerous systems to ensure its safety and its stealth, the ZaS-42 'Gecko' can fly close air support, air superiority, strike, SEAD, interdiction, or any number of other various roles. Two variants, the CTOL and ASTOVL variants, are available for purchase.


Airframe

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/x/x35pm.JPG

The airframe of the LCS is marked by a high-rise cockpit, defined nose cone, sleek body shape with swept-back wings, and moveable canard foreplanes not just there to look pretty. The single large engine is enclosed by horizontal stabilizers, and two leaning vertical stabilizers are in the rear. Typical of Zoogie aircraft design tradition, the design of the aircraft is extremely streamlined for maximum efficiency and reliability. The surface is made up of strong yet lightweight materials, making the fighter both capable and, well, lightweight. The canard foreplanes serve to enhance manueverability even further - making this 'strike' fighter an excellent dogfighter that is able to quickly scramble up in the event of an attack, and take care of the enemy. Indeed, this airframe has taken an award (hard fought, we assure you) of the Prettiest Design Fighter Zoogiedom has ever made.


Powerplant

The LCS required different variants of its engine - an effective conventional take-off/landing (CTOL) engine for the air force, and an excellent advanced short take-off/ vertical landing (ASTOVL) engine for the navy. Esmier developed the Es-143 for use on the LCS, with the -4600-C and -4800-V suffixes attatched to the air and marinal versions, respectively.

As usual, fuel efficiency was a concern: range, power, and thrust vectoring were all major issues in the design of the Es-143. More on these three issues will be discussed shortly after.

The Es-143 is a powerful engine in the 40,000-lb range. The basic -4600 model is for CTOL, with no need for extra thrust required to lift the plane and its heavy payload vertically. Automated and manual 60-degree 3D thrust vectoring is incorporated, although export variants have it downsized to 30 degrees - in part to reduce price, and in part to ensure that our own aircraft are not going to be recklessly proliferated. Exports to trusted nations will be a different case. The -4600 model has thrust power of 41,200-lbs.

The -4800 model is for the ASTOVL variant for the Navy and Marine Corps, and features lift-fan ASTOVL design. The nozzle can swivel 90 degrees downwards for vertical or very short takeoffs, and 90 degrees upward for vertical landing. Inflight it can automatically 3D-thrust vector 45 degrees, although the complexity of maintaining this led to the exclusion of this feat in export version. The -4800 model has 46,200-lbs thrust to accomodate VTOL capabilities, with +/- 100 degrees thrust; and as aforementioned, 45 degrees automated inflight.

Avionics

Quite simply, avionics are the most complex and most important facet of a modern fighter. They are the first to be upgraded in upgrade programs, and make the difference between the excellent fighters that make the cut, and the good fighters that crash and burn. In the middle of an intense dogfight, it truly does suck to be he whose plane has inferior avionics.

First, the LCS's detection systems. The LCS uses a powerful, look-down shoot-down all-aspect radar with ranges of up to 180 miles. This radar has been in development for quite a long time, and is designed to integrate into the rest of LCS's systems and avionics, and be particularly useful in navigation and ground attack for infiltration missions. And just for kicks - well, actually, to fulfill one of the requirements - this radar is significantly harder to detect via passive radar, and harder to disrupt via electronic countermeasures ('jamming').

Speaking of which, the passive radar and radar warning system. However many methods one uses to mask an active radar's transmissions, powerful passive radar and RWR will be able to intercept it. Using active radar any more than necessary is the first cardinal sin of flying stealth combat aircraft - for then you aren't so stealth anymore. Our active radar masking is a superb system, but the passive radar is able to detect it. The LCS's passive radar and integrated RWR is able to detect incoming radar signals and warn you who's tracking you, and where. Any missile locked on the aircraft would be detected, and the pilot alerted immediately - in addition, up to ten incoming missiles can be kept track of at a time, and the chaff/flare countermeasures will kick in automatically.

The LCS also uses an internal infrared tracking system, a powerful IR detection system able to detect heat emissions on the air and on the ground (or sea) with great range and accuracy, and little disturbance. With all aspect tracking and a range of over ten miles, this is one of the best IR detecting systems in Zoogiedom. Furthermore, the system seeks to cancel out flares or electronic countermeasures from disturbing the tracking, and effectively guides aircraft when active radar is not an option. This is a passive system, and is always active.

Further, in the integrated multi-function displays and avionics suite are internal GPS and laser-designation systems, guiding the LCS's JDAM and laser guided munitions as well as pinpointing targets in all kinds of weather.

Systems

The LCS often will have the goal of flying infiltration into enemy airspace and taking out high priority targets with precision strikes. Therefore, all of its systems are required to be flawless and astounding.

LCS redefines the term 'autopilot.' Targets in close proximity to the LCS are always tracked, as well as the ground and terrain (determined by the radar systems by comparing the altitudes of ground targets and generating a sort of rough computerized terrain map) to prevent the LCS from getting into a midair or crashing accidentally in poor weather. Warnings will alert the pilot when he becomes too close to crashing, and the powerful 'Emergency Manuever Control System' will engage all control surfaces of the aircraft, including thrust vectoring, to vector out of the close strike. Even if there are multiple points of impending collision, this system will automatically attempt to manuever out of them all. A subordinate to this system, the 'Incoming Missile Manuever Control System,' tracks incoming missile trajectory, distance, speed, and makes a ton of calculations...based on these calculations, it will use the EMCS to perform extreme manuevers to dodge the missile at the last second, even as the pilot is manuevering the plane himself or herself. It also control the countermeasures suite, and releases flare and chaff as appropriate.

The countermeasures suite is also top of the line. It will automatically engage chaff and flare, launching them in the approximate direction of the missile in select time intervals, all based on the calculations of the IMMCS. Various electronic countermeasures system will engage powerful jamming, passive electronic countermeasures, and bombard incoming missiles with signals that intend to throw it off, no matter what the designation.

The LCS uses an enhanced fly-by-optics system. Fly-by-wire, made famous by the venerable F-16 fighter, is an advanced control system that allows the aircraft unprecedented manueverability, and the pilot unprecedented control. Fly by optics is a few steps up. Fly-by-wire is now a thing of the past - optical fibers allow for faster, more reliable responses, much better control, and much better exploitation of the flight envelope. Both automated and manual, and able to be controlled by the various manuever systems such as EMCS and IMMCS, the LCS-FBO system allows this fighter to be easily one of the most manueverable in the world. Combined with the effective, consolidated control surfaces and thrust vectoring, the LCS is feature an extreme turn radius, incredible manuevers, and almost unmatched performance. It is able to come to a complete stop in mid air and hover, in both versions of the aircraft. It is also able to fly virtually sideways.

As for control surfaces, the LCS doesn't use traditional flaps or aerilons; indeed, these are steadily being phased out in Zoogiedom combat aircraft. Rather, various systems in its wings, moving canard foreplanes, and rear horizontal stabilizers ('tail fins') have fluid motion, allowing such extreme manueverability such as almost sideways flight and hovering. This also makes it an excellent dogfighter, and is part of the reason why it beat out a very specialized and updated unmanned F-35 in dogfight trials...

The final system worthy of note is the D3CS, or Dual Cannon Combat Control System. The LCS features twin embedded 20-mm six-barrel cannons, able to be fired both automatically and manually. When the detection systems of the LCS lock onto an enemy fighter - let's say, an Su-37 - several systems kick in. The Air Combat Manuever System (another which controls the control surfaces) makes adjustments in the control surfaces to aid the pilot in manuevering towards the aircraft, or to help swing the aircraft out of the way as the enemy aircraft gains a favorable position on it. The aforementioned D3CS, meanwhile, calculates the speed, position, distance, trajectory, and other statistics of its own plane and the enemy(ies) in question. The D3CS gun system then makes a calculation of the hit percentage that its cannons would get on the enemy fighter if it fired at any given time...when the hit percentage reaches a certain point, the cannon system propels a certain number of cannon rounds towards the enemy fighter...this evolutionary dogfighting system leaves the pilot free to manuever (and even this is aided) while letting the machine destroy on its own, with stunning accuracy. And if surrounded by two Su-37s, the LCS can even concentrate on splashing one while letting its IMMCS/EMCS and ACMS system save its tail on the other end. This is the next generation in dogfighting.

The LCS also features tiny pods on each of its wings that emit our first endeavor into an active ECM system, codenamed Taurus. Taurus uses two very tiny, barely noticeable pods on the wings to emit signals that basically cancel all active radar emissions...for all intensive purposes, nothing but the very, very, very, very best and expensive radar systems will be able to track the LCS via active radar, even if the LCS has its wingtip pylons mounted.

Armament

The LCS carries in standard configuration two 2000-lb munitions and two medium ranged missiles in its main bays and two heatseeking missiles in its side bays. The main bays can also hold (in place of the bombs) four medium ranged missiles, or six heatseeking missiles, if necessary, with two medium ranged or three short ranged AAMs replaced by the 2000-lb munitions. Various other ground stores can accomodated.

Four wingtip pylons are mounted if necessary, but degrade its aerodynamics somewhat.

Export - Important; buyers please read before buying

Cn. Hansien has brought in new export policy of combat aircraft; all export versions are to be eliminated and combat aircraft strictly sold in private deals to the most trusted allies.

ZaS-42 (Full) A: $36 million M: $42 million

Engine type: 3D-TV Es-143 turbofan type with 41,000-lb thrust.

Performance: Max speed Mach 2.43; cruise speed Mach 1.68; service ceiling 61,000 feet

Armament: Main bays housing two 2000-lb JDAM munitions and two AIM-120; side bays housing two AIM-132; four wing pylons for further arms;

Cannon: (Air force: dual 20-mm cannons with 360 rounds each) (Marines: 25-mm cannon with 620 rounds)

Range: 1450 Miles (1300 Marinal Version)

http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/photos/images/aircraft/astovl.jpeg
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 19:57
[reserved]
Al-Sabir
17-04-2004, 20:01
Check your TGs, The Zoogie People.
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 20:09
Will do :P

There is an interesting correlation between thread titles that indicate how much one should not look at it and the number of views it received...we have concluded that people are compusively curious and helpless to do a thing about it. :P
Soviet Haaregrad
17-04-2004, 20:18
That looks alot like my new fighter(the first pic does).
My design
http://home.ripway.com/2004-2/68292/flashbulb.gif
NASA's picture, which I first saw on this thread
http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/photos/images/aircraft/astovl.jpeg
Fluffywuffy
17-04-2004, 20:23
OOC:
In addition to using the standard "OMG I declare war on ju!" or "I declare war on Menelmacar!" or "I nuke ju!" titles, I will debate using this as an ad title.

Now for the comments....with the amount of computer control systems on here, why not just make it a full UAV? From what it sounds like the plane flys itself, engages targets on its own, tracks on its own, shoots on its own, etc.

As for missle dodging manuevers.....if it isnt a UAV, an extreme last-minute turn, plunge, rise, might be a little hard on the pilot. While I dont doubt you could do that (if the plane is structuraly capable, which I assume it is), your pilots may not like it.

IC:

"The Emire is extremely interested in the LCS and would like to purchase 2 for use as a research aircraft to study the possibility of a fully functional computer controlled fighter. We would also like to pit it against our F-47(an Su-47 spoof with modern avionics, etc.) to determine if your fighter indeed surpasses ours.

So, we will purchase two of the export version of the LCS for $68 million dollars"

Dick Shepard
Chief of Military Research
Imperial City AFB
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 20:24
Odd...I found that picture ages ago typing in 'ASTOVL' in Google Image Search, and have been actively RPing on an off-NS site its creation since March 4th...I've only had time to finish the description now...

OOC:

It's got a lot of computer systems, yes, but I'm not at a technology level where it can be fully flown by a pilot. Much combat manuevering has to be done by the pilot; such as pulling the nose to the target or launching missiles...it would be too complex. I'm planning a ground attack UAV at the maximum of my modern tech level (2018 or so), but this will be a fighter.

As for missile dogfighting manuevers...do you mean the dogfighting combat sys, or the evasion system? The dogfighting system doesn't make any drastic manuevers; only aids the movement slightly to enhance it. The evasion system IS drastic; when it's between life and death, there's really no other choice.

IC:

Fluffywuffy, your nation's request for two aircraft for evaluation purposes is granted at no charge. As an ally, we will be more than happy to assist your own technological advances and your use of these as testing vehicles...
Soviet Haaregrad
17-04-2004, 20:37
Odd...I found that picture ages ago typing in 'ASTOVL' in Google Image Search, and have been actively RPing on an off-NS site its creation since March 4th...I've only had time to finish the description now...

OOC:
There are differences, like my canards are mounted higher, and my nozzle might be mounted a little more inboard. Anyways, good luck with the sales. :P
Fluffywuffy
17-04-2004, 21:08
I meant the evasion system, but I was thinking that it could possibly black out the pilot.
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 21:10
It might...but better blacked out than dead.
Fluffywuffy
17-04-2004, 21:12
'Tis true.
Kazakhstania
17-04-2004, 21:19
Can we also have two for evalutation?
The Zoogie People
17-04-2004, 23:44
Of course; two will be granted for no charge for your evaluation of the aircraft.
West Scotland
18-04-2004, 00:09
OOC: As West Scotland, Zoogie's puppet, itself will not be a nation that will have developed a similar fighter, West Scotland will simply purchase these. For roleplay reference.

IC:

Greetings,

The nation of West Scotland is currently in need of a strike fighter to replace our own F/X-32s, and as we are not developing one such fighter ourselves, we would like to contract Zoogie Aerospace Corporation to suite our needs.

The contract established would involve the acquisition of eight hundred and sixty ZaS-42 model A fighters and four hundred and thirty ZaS-42 model M fighters for our Air Force and Navy, respectively.

The estimated contract price is $16.3 billion...thank you,

Premier Joseph Burke
West Scotland

http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/west_scotland.jpg
Drizzts Army
18-04-2004, 00:13
we would like to use these kinda aircraft to test against other company designs to look for a more possible replacement with our EuroFighters and those F-4 Phantoms that are in storage.

Edit*: We would like to purchase 3
18-04-2004, 00:34
The nation of Matterbuggy would like to purchase 80 normal planes, and 30 naval. We will use these in assuring the safety and well-being of our nation, and region.

We have discussed the purchase of these planes, and set the price of 3.6 billion. The money has been wired over.

We are rest assured that these planes will be wonderful, as all past purchases, have been well spent.

- Kevin Davidson
Secretary of Sales and Buying
The Zoogie People
18-04-2004, 01:14
West Scotland and Matterbuggy's orders have been confirmed as written; thank you for purchasing Zoogie Aerospace.

Drizzts will receive three at no charge.
The Zoogie People
18-04-2004, 02:40
The Zoogie People
18-04-2004, 02:42
Comments? Suggestions? Or better yet - buys?
Anarresa
18-04-2004, 03:44
Ah, its nice to see a great F-35 replacement. We hope the Gecko will easily fill the F-35 roles. Anarresa would like to place a rather large order for some of these aircraft:

500 ZaS-42 As for 18 Billion
850 ZaS-42 Ms for 35.7 Billion

That totals at 53.7 Billion
The debt will be paid in equal increments over the next 10 NS years (5.37 billion/year)
The Zoogie People
18-04-2004, 17:11
We thank Anaressa for making the decision to contract Zoogie Aerospace for an F-35 replacement. We have no doubts that you will find it satisfactory; however, you seem to have added extra zeroes in your pricing.

A contract based on estimated per-unit export prices would be $53.7 billion; however, the mass production of F-35s, coupled with our alliance, proximity, and the concurrent production of such aircraft for our own air and maritime forces, will drive the cost down to $40.6 billion. Thank you again; expect production to run for 8 to 10 years.
The Zoogie People
20-04-2004, 03:28
:arrow:
Anarresa
20-04-2004, 06:05
We thank Anaressa for making the decision to contract Zoogie Aerospace for an F-35 replacement. We have no doubts that you will find it satisfactory; however, you seem to have added extra zeroes in your pricing.

A contract based on estimated per-unit export prices would be $53.7 billion; however, the mass production of F-35s, coupled with our alliance, proximity, and the concurrent production of such aircraft for our own air and maritime forces, will drive the cost down to $40.6 billion. Thank you again; expect production to run for 8 to 10 years.

OOC: Order Price fixed

IC:Thank you again, it has been a pleasure doing buisness with you.
The Zoogie People
24-04-2004, 18:23
No problem; the first section of the contract is being shipped to you as we speak.
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 18:24
OOC:
If all this really was from new gens wed be up to generation 300 by now
The Zoogie People
24-04-2004, 18:25
The Next Generation being the 5th generation...that's what we're up to, isn't it?
Iron Blood
24-04-2004, 18:26
The Next Generation being the 5th generation...that's what we're up to, isn't it?
Im probably up to 6th generation... if you call T-95 and such 5th gen...
The Zoogie People
25-04-2004, 16:37
T-95? What's that?...
Iron Blood
25-04-2004, 16:43
T-95? What's that?...
New gen russian tank with unmanned turret 152mm gun 3rd generation ERA armor (Kaktus). Currently in prototype stage.
The Zoogie People
25-04-2004, 16:59
Ehm...this is an aircraft ;)
Fluffywuffy
25-04-2004, 17:28
"Having evaluated the Gecko in comparison to other aircraft, the Empire has charged me with the procurement of another 200 aircraft, for use on a few newly built carriers to be used as ground attack aircraft in conjunction with our own CAS aircraft. I await your cost projection."

Robert Anthis
Military Contractor
Iron Blood
25-04-2004, 17:38
Anyway, well buy 10
The Zoogie People
25-04-2004, 17:45
Iron Blood, ten ZF-42s will be procured at $280 million.

Mr. Anthis, we are pleased that the aircraft has performed satisfactorily in your evaluations. The procurement of a further 200 aircraft will be completed in five years and will cost $6 billion.
Iron Blood
25-04-2004, 17:46
Money wired.
The Zoogie People
30-04-2004, 03:51
Order has been completed.
Sarzonia
30-04-2004, 04:06
The Incorporated States of Sarzonia expresses its interest in purchasing 300 full versions of the "Gecko" fighter at $42 million each. The total for this procurement is $12.6 billion. We have a very close relationship with the United Kingdom of Isselmere-Nieland [OOC: That's a close tie with one of your "trusted allies" list... on a personal note, it sounds like a "six degrees of separation" thing, lol].

Monies shall be wired upon confirmation.

We thank you for your consideration of our order.

Mark Lorber
Senior Vice President for External Affairs
Incorporated States of Sarzonia

[OOC P.S. Since Sarzonia's at war with Holy Panooly in an attempt to stop the latter's ethnic cleaning, the SVP External is going to be doing more of the purchasing.]
The Zoogie People
01-05-2004, 00:13
OOC: Eh..never understood six degrees of separation. What's it mean?

IC:

The Incorporated States of Sarzonia's order has been confirmed and is being processed, for a total procurrement contract cost of $10.4 billion.
Kazakhstania
01-05-2004, 16:31
OOC: Damn! Zoogie, how the hell do you get sales?
The Zoogie People
03-05-2004, 03:05
(This hasn't sold as well as its nearest Kazakh counterpart, the F/A-41...) :P
Sarzonia
03-05-2004, 03:13
[quote="The Zoogie People"]OOC: Eh..never understood six degrees of separation. What's it mean?

[OOC: Six degrees of separation basically means that someone is tied to someone else through six "degrees." For instance, someone could be in a movie with someone who performed a song with someone who was your cousin. That would mean three or four degrees of separation between the actor and you. It's often used with Kevin Bacon. ;)

I was referring to the fact that you mentioned were looking favorably at your allies and THEIR allies. That's all. :)]
Granzi
03-05-2004, 06:26
The Commonwealth would be interested in aquiring production rights for your fine aircraft. Just name your price. :wink: Thank you.
The Zoogie People
12-05-2004, 00:29
Granzi, production rights are free. And thanks for the explanation, Sarzonia.
Scandavian States
07-06-2004, 04:52
The Imperial Air Force, in order to complete its requirement for new aircraft, would like to purchase the following:

360 ZaS-42A Fighters
Zoogiedom
07-06-2004, 22:42
OOC - Please note that I am not currently taking orders as I am on break. All allies may contact me via one of the alliance forums...or PM me.

However...

IC:

Zoogie Aerospace would be most happy to undertake procurement of the said number of ZaS-42A aircraft, and is able to deliver them to you in five years' time, latest.
Scandavian States
08-06-2004, 00:44
We thank Zoogiedom for their generosity and will wire the money to the appropriate account immediately.
The Island of Rose
09-08-2004, 21:40
So... how much for the rights of production and the right to rename it?
Zoogiedom
09-08-2004, 21:59
The corporate executives gasped collectively. "Rename!? Prod rights?!"
Lunatic Retard Robots
09-08-2004, 22:25
I must compliment you on an excellent aircraft, Zoogie (if I haven't already).

This aircraft is superior to my Super Gripen in avionics and speed, and to my F-5 in stealth characteristics.

I would like to purchase 350 Geckos to replace the F-5 (looks like an EF-2000 actually, F-5 is the current model of fighter that the LRRAF is on).

Those would be of the near-full variant. The LRRA budget doesn't allow aquisitions of aircraft that cost much more than 35 million USD.

Also, how rugged are these aircraft? The LRRAF demands a high standard of reliability and rough-field performance from its aircraft. The Super Gripen, for example (the main LRRAF fighter type) can take off from a grassy hillside, and their RM-21 engines can suck in pebbles without a major problem.

Once in LRRAF useage, they will be known as the F-6 Gecko, following the indeginous fighter naming standards.
The Island of Rose
09-08-2004, 22:28
The corporate executives gasped collectively. "Rename!? Prod rights?!"

Name your price.
Zoogiedom
09-08-2004, 22:35
A contract of 350 ZaS-42 (full) would run for, with alliance and bulk factored in, $11.75bn, which is less than $36m per unit. The list price is estimated and varies greatly depending on diplomatic stance and order size...Three year contract sound fair? If you wish the near-full order, it would total out at $11.35bn, although realize you do have access to the full...

Rose, for that...there isn't a price.
The Island of Rose
09-08-2004, 22:39
A contract of 350 ZaS-42 (full) would run for, with alliance and bulk factored in, $11.75bn, which is less than $36m per unit. The list price is estimated and varies greatly depending on diplomatic stance and order size...Three year contract sound fair? If you wish the near-full order, it would total out at $11.35bn, although realize you do have access to the full...

Rose, for that...there isn't a price.

I understand, to precious to give away. Did I kill an executive when I said that offer though?
Zoogiedom
09-08-2004, 22:42
No, but if that was your intent...;)
The Island of Rose
09-08-2004, 22:45
No, but if that was your intent...;)

Of course that wasn't my intent.

*goes back to plotting death of executive*

:p
Lunatic Retard Robots
10-08-2004, 01:32
A contract of 350 ZaS-42 (full) would run for, with alliance and bulk factored in, $11.75bn, which is less than $36m per unit. The list price is estimated and varies greatly depending on diplomatic stance and order size...Three year contract sound fair? If you wish the near-full order, it would total out at $11.35bn, although realize you do have access to the full...


Ok, full it is then. A three-year contract is good.

Is the ZaS-42 compatible with the AA-11 "Archer" AAM? The LRRAF uses a modified version of the AA-11 called, well, the AA-11 MOD, and its the basic short range AAM in LRRAF service.
Zoogiedom
11-08-2004, 22:12
The ZaS-42 is compatable with the AA-11, as it is with most armaments of all nationalities :P
Sarzonia
06-09-2004, 22:51
*bump*