NationStates Jolt Archive

"Ladies and Gentlemen of the media, Citizens of Rotovia and the International Community. As those who followe Rotovian politcs know, ever five years the Parliament of Rotovia is granted the authority to banish any Citizen holding Public Office under the Constitution of Rotovia. I am hear to announce the result of the closed door session of Parliament. The Lower House is allowed to banish five Citizens, they proposed three. In accordance with the Consitution for the Banishment to be offical it must gain the support of two thirds of the Senate, however since only four Senators voted in favour of the proposed banishment the House of Representatives banishments were vetoed. The Senate is entitled to banish ten Citizens holding Public Office, only one name was proposed and the two third ratio was obtained.

Therefore... by order of the Senate of Rotovia Dr Andrew Heyford, Chairman of the Rotovian Communist Coalition is hereby banished from Allied States of Rotovia and all it's subordinate territories. From this moment you have 28 days to leave Rotovian Territory and you are not permited to re-enter.

In accordance with the Civil Rights Act we must provide a brief justification, which is that the Senate feels it would be in the best intrests of the people of Rotovia not to have Dr Heyfeild in Public Office."

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The People's Republic of Momanguise hereby invites Dr Andrew Heyford to take refugee in in her borders.

The People's Republic of Momanguise hereby invites Dr Andrew Heyford to take refugee in in her borders."Please understand that by willingly taking on the Doctor you severe all diplomatic ties with Rotovia"

~Ministry for Foreign Affairs

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Please understand that by willingly taking on the Doctor you severe all diplomatic ties with Rotovia"

~Ministry for Foreign Affairs

It saddens the Momanguise leadership to hear that Rotovia is preparing to take such a stance. However, we feel we must fufil our duties to our foriegn comrades.

Once again, the Rotovian government acts in the "best interests" of it's people by removing democratically elected officials from office.

We praise Mormanguise for its actions in offering to take this man in.

Ernesto Sanchez, Premier of Momanguise today gave his personal approval of the decision to give Dr Andrew Heyford political refugee status.

'We will do our best to maintain the safety and wellbeing of our international comrades. We regret the decision to remove a democractically installed politician, and we will be granting Dr Andrew Heyford citizenship, and will look to provide him an active role in the Momanguian goverment.'

The goverment also passes on his thanks to Kanabia for the countrys support in this situation.

The King of Xeraph, Alaric, applauds your banishment of a communist politician. We of Xeraph feel that communists, along with Islamic extremists, are to be kept in check by freedom-loving nations.

Let it be known that any effort on the part of communists or terrorist against the sovreignty of Rotovia will be met with the force of Xeraph.

respectfully,

Alaric of Xeraph

The Dominion of New Vladivostok applauds the actions of Rotovia, in removing a menace to liberty from their midst. Communists have no place in public office. The world must stand together to combat the Red menace!

Once again, the Rotovian government acts in the "best interests" of it's people by removing democratically elected officials from office.

We praise Mormanguise for its actions in offering to take this man in."And again you feel a need to meddle in our internal politics. It is preceisely to uphold democracy within our nation t hat we remove the biggest threat to our beloved democracy"

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Considering: That any form of segregation including those of religion, race and political ideas stand against the basic principles of a democracy.

Considering: That the removal of elected officials for no reason other than discrimination, is a serious breach to the political rights of said official and all the people who voted for him, and thus puts democracy itself in jeopardy.

Considering: That there are international treaties wich allow any nation to recieve political refugees in their borders.

Considering: Momanguise acted in it's right to serve as shelter, and Rotovia proceeded to issue threats against Momanguise.

We the people of Vacant Planets

Resolve: To condemn Rotovia's authoritatist stances, supressing civil liberties and political rights, and putting in danger the democratic stability of the region.

Resolve: To condemn Rotovia's threats to Momanguise wich violate all international treaties on political refugee's and bring unnecesary tension to the region. As we also consider it a violation of Momanguise sovereignity.

Resolve: To further it's efforts in having the international community to keep close watch upon members with similar stances such as Rotovia's.

Resolve: To keep close watch on Rotovia's authorities in order to guarantee a swift reaction to any more disturbance in the stability of the region.

Resolve: To show full respect and support of Momanguise actions to serve as shelter for the political refugee Dr. Andrew Heyford.

The Armed Republic of Johor fully supports The People's Republic of Momanguise in it's decision to have open arms.

The Elesnarian Foreign Minister, Kovalenko Lin said that this transition of power is a real great blow to the communist movements all around the world.

Elesnar is supporting the Rotivian Communist Coalition leader, Dr. Andrew Heyford and all of his coalition friends in their banishment sanctuary to regain their throne in Rotovia someday.

Elesnar is also ready to give aides to Dr. Andrew Heyford if he is willing to.

The government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka has released a formal statement:

The government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka realizes that communist ideals run contrary to the ideas advocated in an open democracy. However, it also recognizes that by ridding your nation of such communist threats run also runs contrary to democracy and freedom. Above all, hypocrisy is bred, and the foundations of democracy are shaken to the core.

The GDMO government also sees that such radical groups will often not have the clout to usurp power, but in existing, expose the need for certain reforms. In this way, organizations like the Communist Party contribute positively to the welfare of the country.

It is because of these reasons that our government is forced to condemn your government's actions. Along with basic freedoms come the freedom to disagree. By eliminating contrary opinions, you eliminate freedom. By eliminating freedom, you eliminate democracy.

The Democratic Peoples Republic of Tonsta would like to invite the Doctor to Tonsta, he could have a seat in our Congress.

It is because of these reasons that our government is forced to condemn your government's actions. Along with basic freedoms come the freedom to disagree. By eliminating contrary opinions, you eliminate freedom. By eliminating freedom, you eliminate democracy.

And without democracy, nations are nothing. There are a lot of democracy systems:
1) Capitalist democracy -- ex: USA
2) Communist democracy -- ex: China (Jiang Zemin era)
3) Fascist democracy -- ex: Indonesia (Soeharto era)
Most communist nations has communist democracy in their government.

Meanwhile dictatorship is the form to eliminate the opposition and contrary freedom. There are a lot of dictatorship systems:
1) Capitalist dictatorship -- ex: Russia (Putin era)
2) Communist dictatorship -- ex: North Korea
3) Fascist dictatorship -- ex: Germany (Third Reich era)

2) Communist dictatorship -- ex: North Korea

The DPRK is not a Dictatorship, they have elections.

2) Communist dictatorship -- ex: North Korea

The DPRK is not a Dictatorship, they have elections.

True, just like how Iraq had elections. The problem is, there was one party and one candidate (Saddam), and if you tried to vote for someone else, you'd get shot by his men.

Considering: That any form of segregation including those of religion, race and political ideas stand against the basic principles of a democracy.

Considering: That the removal of elected officials for no reason other than discrimination, is a serious breach to the political rights of said official and all the people who voted for him, and thus puts democracy itself in jeopardy.

Considering: That there are international treaties wich allow any nation to recieve political refugees in their borders.

Considering: Momanguise acted in it's right to serve as shelter, and Rotovia proceeded to issue threats against Momanguise.

We the people of Vacant Planets

Resolve: To condemn Rotovia's authoritatist stances, supressing civil liberties and political rights, and putting in danger the democratic stability of the region.

Resolve: To condemn Rotovia's threats to Momanguise wich violate all international treaties on political refugee's and bring unnecesary tension to the region. As we also consider it a violation of Momanguise sovereignity.

Resolve: To further it's efforts in having the international community to keep close watch upon members with similar stances such as Rotovia's.

Resolve: To keep close watch on Rotovia's authorities in order to guarantee a swift reaction to any more disturbance in the stability of the region.

Resolve: To show full respect and support of Momanguise actions to serve as shelter for the political refugee Dr. Andrew Heyford.
"Your natiosn statement was read by Senator Alex Stately, a prominent member of the Communist Coalition in the Senate of Rotovia today. After the conlcusion of his speech Lord Maxwell Powers of the Allied Conservative Party moved for the banishment of Alex Stately and hour other communist Senators. The Bill has passed... Therefore... by order of the Senate of Rotovia you are hereby banished from Allied States of Rotovia and all it's subordinate territories. From this moment you have 28 days to leave Rotovian Territory and you are not permited to re-enter."

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Once again, the Rotovian government acts in the "best interests" of it's people by removing democratically elected officials from office.

We praise Mormanguise for its actions in offering to take this man in."And again you feel a need to meddle in our internal politics. It is preceisely to uphold democracy within our nation t hat we remove the biggest threat to our beloved democracy"

We do not meddle - We express our disgust as to the sham of democracy within Rotovia. But we have not taken any other actions that would be classified as meddling.

We would also like to state that Kanabia is a Democratic Marxist nation - And Marxism has not at all damaged freedom of speech or political expression in Kanabia.

The King of Xeraph, Alaric, applauds your banishment of a communist politician. We of Xeraph feel that communists, along with Islamic extremists, are to be kept in check by freedom-loving nations.

Let it be known that any effort on the part of communists or terrorist against the sovreignty of Rotovia will be met with the force of Xeraph.

respectfully,

Alaric of Xeraph

Obviously your nation has a primitive understanding of Communism and Socialism that has stemmed completely from a barrage of biased western movies and literature.

By the way, these people were not terrorists, but simply democratically elected officials, banished for the crime of expressing their beliefs, and representing the people who voted them in.

The government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka realizes that communist ideals run contrary to the ideas advocated in an open democracy

How so? Communism, and Socialism as it is practised in Kanabia, is democracy for all, not just the corporations and media that can buy votes as they feel.

OOC:Russia is not a Ditctatorship.

IC: The Communist leader would be Welcomed to the Red Bloc Army Region, and can stay as a polictal refugee in the Continental Empire.

Gmeistaville's Foreign Minister, Corey Muller, has expressed the nation's concern about the actions taken by the Rotovian government.

"While Gmeistaville has, undeniably, a very capitalist economy and political viewpoint, we do not believe that this sort of action is doing any good for anyone," the Minister said today.

"The eviction of a political opponent, by force, such as Dr. Heyford's case, is completely fascist and in no democracy's best interests."

"This could inflame the rising tension betweeen communist and capitalist states even more, with the possibility of communist states taking a similar course of action," he commented.

He outlined the fact that while the Government doesn't believe that communism is compatible with democracy, it also does not endorse the authoritarian nature of Rotovia's actions.

"The idea of a democracy is if the people want something, they get it. It's not in the power of the government to outlaw opposing political parties."

Mr. Muller did not, however, deny that communism is a growing threat to democracy.

"As we have seen time and time again in the past, communist ideals do not constitute modern democracy, and in old communist reigmes, we have seen an even more imbalanced wealth distribution, with a small, elite percentage of the nation enjoying prosperity," he explained.

"Capitalism, in most cases, does not effect civil liberties to any great extent, with the majority of capitalistic dictatorships' lack of freedom stemming not from capitalism, but merely a lack of civil freedoms."

He added one final statement, summarising the Government's stance on Rotovia's actions.

"This action, which is obviously a pro-capitalist one, clearly infringes on basic political freedoms and civil rights that true democracies are obliged to uphold. We stress that, while in this one rare case capitalism is sided with fascism, capitalism promotes civil rights and political diversity."

The government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka realizes that communist ideals run contrary to the ideas advocated in an open democracy

How so? Communism, and Socialism as it is practised in Kanabia, is democracy for all, not just the corporations and media that can buy votes as they feel.

The problem is, "communism" and "socialism" are not one and the same. Typically, "communism" is "socialism" with a totalitarian spin. You would agree that totalitarianism is anti-democratic?

The government of the Grand Duchy of Monte Ozarka realizes that communist ideals run contrary to the ideas advocated in an open democracy

How so? Communism, and Socialism as it is practised in Kanabia, is democracy for all, not just the corporations and media that can buy votes as they feel.

The problem is, "communism" and "socialism" are not one and the same. Typically, "communism" is "socialism" with a totalitarian spin. You would agree that totalitarianism is anti-democratic?

Communism in its true interpretation is utopian socialism. There is no link with totalitarianism even though it is commonly wrongly equated with it.

Obviously, no nation fits that definition of communism, so in the meantime, Kanabia has democratic socialism to guide us there.

Just to re-visit this.

Momanguise is now ready to collect the Doctor from the shores of Rotovia.

The goverment also extended it's invitation to the following.

(a) Senator Alex Stately, and any other communist senators.

(b) Any member of the Communist Party of Rotovia. It is becoming clear that communists are facing persecution in Rotovia, and the Momanguise regards such actions as morally repungant.

Please give me some figures of the numbers I am to expect.