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OOC: I am IDF's space nation. I use ST tech boucht from Northrop Grumman, but I do plan to design new ships
We are the UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETs

Star Fleet based out of Starbase 1 in orbit of Earth
Flag: Reman Warbird: Scimitar class; USS Scimitar NCC-15, Thalaron and fire while cloaked
4 Sovereign class BB[/]: USS Enterprice NCC-1701-E, USS Sovereign NCC-13 , USS Nautalus NCC 14, USS Dauntless NCC-12
[b]2 Defiant class: USS Defiant NCC-16, USS Monitor NCC-17
5 Galaxy class USS Galaxy: NCC-11, USS Odysey NCC-10, USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D, USS Halsey NCC-25, USS Challenger NCC-26
14 Akira class: USS Akira NCC-18, USS Thunderchild NCC-19, USS Midway NCC-20, USS Thunderbolt NCC-32, USS Vincennes NCC-36, USS Franklin NCC-37, USS Adams NCC-38, USS Madison NCC-39, USS Monroe NCC-40, USS Jefferson NCC-41, USS Jackson NCC-42, USS Van Burren NCC-43, USS Harrison NCC-43, USS Tyler NCC-44, USS Polk NCC-45
2 Ambassador class: USS Ambassador: NCC-9, USS Zumwalt NCC-46
4 Excelsior class: USS Excelsior, NCC-8, USS Hood NCC-7, USS Paladin NCC-27, USS Cochrane NCC-28
3 Constellation class: USS Constellation NCC-29, USS Stargazer NCC-30, USS Reuban James NCC-31
8 Constitution refit: USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A, USS Constitution NCC-3, USS Republic, NCC-6, USS Yorktown NCC-5, USS Battleaxe NCC-4, USS Columbia NCC-33, USS Ranger NCC-34, USS Marcus NCC-35
12 Miranda class: USS Saratoga NCC-46, USS Reliant NCC-47, USS Oakland NCC-48, USS Rockford NCC-49. USS Clancy NCC-50, USS Detroit NCC-51. USS Pittsburgh NCC-52. USS Gary NCC-53, USS Kalamazoo NCC-54. USS South Bend NCC-55, USS Mishawaka NCC-56, USS Philadelphia NCC-57,
5 Daedalus class: USS Daedalus NCC-21, USS Falkland NCC-22, USS Nova NCC-23, USS White Dwarf NCC-24, USS Essex NCC-1B,
2 modified B'Rel Klingon Bird of Preys (the fire photon while cloaked from Undiscovered Country): USS Chang NCC-2, USS Kahless NCC-3

that is my current and growing fleet

LOST: Daedalus class: USS Essex NCC-1 (lost to warp core breach from a suicide attack to kill the Demo Man Intimidator class vessel to kill it and her captain, Jean Luc Picard) The whole crew was lost, they recieved posthumously gold stars and purple hearts.

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space

Welcome to Space! The Autocratic Triumvirate of Nili welcomes you, and if you ever happen to stumble into the Zeres system maybe our (extremely) extensive and awesome fact file can be of some assistance? The setting comes completely from my mind. I'm creative like that.

Fact File (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=138697&highlight=)

Be warned however, there are some pictures and links to pictures where they were too large to fit.

I am now sending the Scimitar out on a mission, she will be cloaked and may fire on enemy vessels while cloaked (if you don't know Scimitar's capabilities, watch Nemesis)

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space
Or Total Annihilation :P

OOC: the Scimitar is pretty much a god-mod on its own... but it's part of the star trek universe, so good hunting!

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space
Or Total Annihilation :P

Corpsac is mad because a Scimitar that fires the thalaron while cloaked would kill his 10km long Sovereign

OOC: the Scimitar is pretty much a god-mod on its own... but it's part of the star trek universe, so good hunting!

technically anything in space is a godmod, the 10km ship is a godmod, but accepted as is the scimitar

Star Trek is pretty tame compared to Star Wars... what with Sun Crushers and World Devastators

The Scimitar is a world devastator, just look at the Thalaron radiation

another flame thread?

well i dont allow ships to fire cloaked and i dnt like ST tech as so mainy people have it and someone abuse's it nameing no names (TFU :roll: ) i sead no names dam it

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space
Or Total Annihilation :P

Or Alternity for that matter... *snickers at a joke that no one will get.*

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space
Or Total Annihilation :P

Or Alternity for that matter... *snickers at a joke that no one will get.*

An Alternate NS Earth! COOKIES FOR ME NOW PLEASE! *Poses like Fonze*

Think of it this way, if you fire while cloaked you're giving away your position unless its some god-mod weapon that can't be detected in any way.

it can be detected that way, the Enterprise used it to fire on Scimitar in ST Nemesis. The weapons are visible, but the ship is moving. You actually can find the ship by firing a phaser spread and firing on shield hits, but she has primary and secondary shields. It is hard to get enough hits to take out cloak by doing that without exhausting torpedo or phaser banks

We have just purchased 3 Akira class cruisers and 2 Defiant class heavy destroyers

The Ferengi Empire welcomes this new Starfleet to space.

The Ferengi Empire welcomes this new Starfleet to space.
would it be right to ask for the Stargazer back? LOL.

Seriously, I want an economic alliance, it would allow you to follow the Ferengi Order, keep your big ears and make a profit

DGNT would like to mentioned Gravity Detection Arrays, its pretty hard to mask somethings gravity distortions :P
Anyway, yeah..err..a ship that can destroy anything in one shot regardless of shields (Been a while since I watched Nemisis), is kinda godmoddish. Just because it was mentioned in a movie/TV show doesnt make it any less of a godmod.
I am also slightly curious as to where you got the funds and material to build such a ship, seeing as very few people even HAVE ships ten km+, although I am one of them, Piledrivers are wonderful negotiation platforms, I dont see how you could build such a large ship, let alone a large ship WITH an uber-destructo-ray.

DGNT would like to mentioned Gravity Detection Arrays, its pretty hard to mask somethings gravity distortions :P
Anyway, yeah..err..a ship that can destroy anything in one shot regardless of shields (Been a while since I watched Nemisis), is kinda godmoddish. Just because it was mentioned in a movie/TV show doesnt make it any less of a godmod.
I am also slightly curious as to where you got the funds and material to build such a ship, seeing as very few people even HAVE ships ten km+, although I am one of them, Piledrivers are wonderful negotiation platforms, I dont see how you could build such a large ship, let alone a large ship WITH an uber-destructo-ray.

I don't have a 10km long ship, I am refering to another one by Saccorps. I am saying that people don't call that a godmod, so my Scimitar shouldn't be one. I have seen others with them anyway. My ship can be found, you just have to use a wide spread of phasers

The three most awesome sci-fi universes out there are Star Wars, Battletech, and Honorverse. Battletech isn't so much into space battle, and some Star Wars ships can get pretty far out there, but ships from the Honorverse are pretty cool. If any of you haven't read any Honorverse before, the books are by David Weber. The term Honorverse comes from the main character, Honor Harrington. Anyway, someone should look into basing some ships off of Honorverse stuff. G'night everyone, and please consider the Honorverse idea for new rp ship designs.

Star trek is the best. Just watch Next Generation or DS9

mmm well to me if a space nation with a pop of under 500 mill has a 10Km ship i normal ignore them unless the got one of somone elce and anyone weilding an Uber laser i also ignore just like TFU when he wanted to make a super phaser powered by a hyperspace tap and was a size of a phaser. funny thing was that he didnt know what a hyperspace tap was (or the fact that the power from a Hyperspace tap is the same power as the expanding universe and has the power to destroy it if you use it wrong ahhh the joys of a hyperspace tap pitty if i could only make one *sits ther dreaming*)

anyway now that i've stoped ranting let me say enter my space i will kill you and if u want a trade pact i will be more then willing to offer one :D

grate another ST space nation :cry: why not babylon 5 or Robotech oh well. welcome to the annoyance of space
Or Total Annihilation :P

Or Alternity for that matter... *snickers at a joke that no one will get.*

An Alternate NS Earth! COOKIES FOR ME NOW PLEASE! *Poses like Fonze*

Sorry, but that wasn't the joke... 8) :lol:

:arrow:

ooc> the hive loves cloaked weaponry because it has no effect on us but to make the ship less scary. . . What you cant see cant hurt u but fire some plasma in that direcetion and hope for the best :D
The hive can see all ships always and forever because of the fact that there are life forms onboard that leave a wake in the warp thus we can see all due to psynapse refluxes. :D
The only ships we have a problem with are drones with no life forms however the hive has developed a new method of reading matter pulses. ie: you move in space you create a wake similar to that of a boat or ship. Because of this the hive see the wake you create as u push space dush out of your way so it see's your out-line. Just thought i would post this somwhere so when it happens ppl dont accuse me of godmodding and so that u guys knew that it could be done :)

We lost 1 ship and added 5 more

new ships have been acquired

fleet looks nice

bump

Jame T Kirk your might Starfleew will fall to my Grand fleet of 36 Warbirds will destory your Federation. I declare War on you!
OOC: should we start a new theard if you a war with me?

The three most awesome sci-fi universes out there are Star Wars, Battletech, and Honorverse. Battletech isn't so much into space battle, and some Star Wars ships can get pretty far out there, but ships from the Honorverse are pretty cool. If any of you haven't read any Honorverse before, the books are by David Weber. The term Honorverse comes from the main character, Honor Harrington. Anyway, someone should look into basing some ships off of Honorverse stuff. G'night everyone, and please consider the Honorverse idea for new rp ship designs.

Some HH nations I can name: Me, Valinon, Wick, Clairmont, Falasmayon, and Erewohn. I'm sure theres others.

The Gregor Corporation (http://s6.invisionfree.com/International_Mall/index.php?s=c6f8a40785c56402ce313377f3671798&showforum=11)

The Scimitar isn't 10 kilometers. It's only 3 kilometers at it's longest point.

Also, on the topic of Thaleron radiation, How does it work? What is it? The movie didn't give a particularly good account of it.

I suppose it doesn't matter, my ships and soldiers are well protected against a radiological attack.

'They're new, they have a ship well beyond their capability to create... I say we exclude them from the Trade Union until we know exactly how it got its hands on Thaleron R and D.' Advised Tanya, staring at the fully detailed hologram of the Fleet in question.

Sawyers stared at the one hundred scale version of the Scimitar and grimaced.

'I sense a god's intervention. Find me a reliable account from their R and D about Thaleron radiation. I want to know exactly what we are facing here.' She ordered.

Tanya blinked, and nodded.

-OOC-

I have an answer to the Scim.

Two words: REFLEX CANNON. You Robotech fans know EXACTLY what I'm talking about.

Defeat at a blow, providing you aren't too big.

:? hmm . nice (and yeah the scitmar deffintly wasint 10 km )

OOC:

Oh hell yeah. The Reflex Cannon...

o.O

My Cityships are rated to survive a single shot from that thing. Thankfully.

Good thing I'm neutral and only engage when it's prudent.

BTW: Someone know the crew sizes for those starfleet ships? Captain Kirk? Just post them up. I have a hunch...

being the parent nation of Kirk I will answer some of the questions. Scimitar is not 10km, it is probably less than 1.5 at the longest point (Enterprise is 700m and Scimitar is about 2 x as long).

I decided in another thread that Thalaron is a godmodd and it would just have extra disruptors and photons to make it a good battleships.

OOC:

Good boy. And crew size?

OOC:

Good boy. And crew size?
I'm not completely sure, but I hear about 1,000 for Sovereign (Enterprise E)
800 for Galaxy (Enterprise D)
300-400 for Constitution (Enterprise original and A)
I use those as a basis and compare size, for example I give an Akira 500. I just guess based on what I know of similar sized ships

Try reversing D and E. According to a few episodes they were just over 1000 people on a Galaxy Class Ship. If you count the civilians.

Try reversing D and E. According to a few episodes they were just over 1000 people on a Galaxy Class Ship. If you count the civilians.
I'm not counting civilians. I have a game called starship creator, the Galaxy has 800 crew and Sovereign 1,000

Okay.

Now, let's multiply that number by how many ships there are...

Fourteen Akira class... 7000.

Four Sovereign class... 4000.

One Scimitar class... 1000 at the least.

Blowing up said starships with CityShips: Priceless.

Naw. I won't, but you're still a little small to have that large a fleet and maintain a presence in your nation - You'd have little to no army.

Good luck and may Sajuuk watch over you.

Oh yeah... Starship Creator is great. Had that for years and still tinker around with it. :)

I don't think it is too large. It is well within my means of that nation. It is well below the maximum 5% of pop.

I have enough to keep my CityShips and my military - Warships, torp corvettes, heavy fighters and bombers, and a Singularity Projector - afloat. And the rest of my population are more concerned with trade and business.

Most of these are official specs for each ship. I hope it helps.

Constitution Class

Dimensions
Length: 305 m
Beam: 140 m
Height: 75 m
Decks: 23
Mass: 620,000 metric tons
Crew: 400
Armament:
18 x Type VII phasers, total output 6,000 TeraWatts
4 x 2nd class photon torpedo tube + 120 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 702,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium Double hull.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 7
Maximum Rated: 9 for 4 hours.


Akira Class

Dimensions
Length: 464.43 m
Beam: 316.67 m
Height: 87.43 m
Decks: 19
Mass: 3,055,000 metric tons
Crew: 500
Evacuation limit: 4500
Armament:
3 x Type X phaser arrays, total output 17,500 TeraWatts
15 x Pulse fire photon torpedo tubes + 300 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 1,876,500 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 5.4 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 9.3
Maximum Rated: 9.8 for 12 hours.



Sovereign Class

Type: Enhanced Deterrence Explorer - uprated
Dimensions Length : 680 m
Beam : 240 m
Height : 87 m
Decks : 24
Mass 3,500,000 metric tons
Crew 700
Armament
16 x Type XII phaser arrays, total output 100,000 TeraWatts
1 x Rapid fire quantum torpedo tube
4 x Type 4 burst fire photon torpedo tube
4 x Standard photon torpedo tube + 300 torpedoes
Defence Systems
Auto modulated shield system, total capacity 5,737,500 TeraJoules
Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 10 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise : 8
Maximum Cruise : 9.9
Maximum Rated : 9.99 for 36 hours.



Galaxy Class

Dimensions
Length: 641 m
Beam: 470 m
Height: 145 m
Decks: 42
Mass: 5,125,000 metric tons
Crew: 1,014
Evacuation limit: 15,000
Armament:
14 x Type X phaser arrays, total output 70,000 TeraWatts
2 x Type 3 burst fire photon torpedo tube + 250 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 5,103,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 9 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 9.2
Maximum Rated: 9.9 for 12 hours



Scimitar

Dimensions
Length : 890 m
Beam : 1,350 m
Height : 245 m
Crew: 2,100 troops and officers
Armament
52 x heavy disrupter cannon, total output 1,000,000 TeraWatts
27 x S3 photon torpedo tubes
1 x Thalaron Radiation emitter
Defence Systems
Primary and secondary shield system, total capacity 2,160,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 9 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Maximum Rated : 9.99 for 12 hours.
Capable of matching the top speed of a Sovereign class starship

Most of these are official specs for each ship. I hope it helps.

Constitution Class

Dimensions
Length: 305 m
Beam: 140 m
Height: 75 m
Decks: 23
Mass: 620,000 metric tons
Crew: 400
Armament:
18 x Type VII phasers, total output 6,000 TeraWatts
4 x 2nd class photon torpedo tube + 120 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 702,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium Double hull.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 7
Maximum Rated: 9 for 4 hours.


Akira Class

Dimensions
Length: 464.43 m
Beam: 316.67 m
Height: 87.43 m
Decks: 19
Mass: 3,055,000 metric tons
Crew: 500
Evacuation limit: 4500
Armament:
3 x Type X phaser arrays, total output 17,500 TeraWatts
15 x Pulse fire photon torpedo tubes + 300 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 1,876,500 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 5.4 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 9.3
Maximum Rated: 9.8 for 12 hours.



Sovereign Class

Type: Enhanced Deterrence Explorer - uprated
Dimensions Length : 680 m
Beam : 240 m
Height : 87 m
Decks : 24
Mass 3,500,000 metric tons
Crew 700
Armament
16 x Type XII phaser arrays, total output 100,000 TeraWatts
1 x Rapid fire quantum torpedo tube
4 x Type 4 burst fire photon torpedo tube
4 x Standard photon torpedo tube + 300 torpedoes
Defence Systems
Auto modulated shield system, total capacity 5,737,500 TeraJoules
Heavy Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 10 cm Ablative armour.
High level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise : 8
Maximum Cruise : 9.9
Maximum Rated : 9.99 for 36 hours.



Galaxy Class

Dimensions
Length: 641 m
Beam: 470 m
Height: 145 m
Decks: 42
Mass: 5,125,000 metric tons
Crew: 1,014
Evacuation limit: 15,000
Armament:
14 x Type X phaser arrays, total output 70,000 TeraWatts
2 x Type 3 burst fire photon torpedo tube + 250 torpedoes
Defence Systems:
Standard shield system, total capacity 5,103,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 9 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Normal Cruise: 6
Maximum Cruise: 9.2
Maximum Rated: 9.9 for 12 hours



Scimitar

Dimensions
Length : 890 m
Beam : 1,350 m
Height : 245 m
Crew: 2,100 troops and officers
Armament
52 x heavy disrupter cannon, total output 1,000,000 TeraWatts
27 x S3 photon torpedo tubes
1 x Thalaron Radiation emitter
Defence Systems
Primary and secondary shield system, total capacity 2,160,000 TeraJoules
Standard Duranium/Tritanium Double hull plus 9 cm High density armour.
Standard level Structural Integrity Field
Warp Speeds
Maximum Rated : 9.99 for 12 hours.
Capable of matching the top speed of a Sovereign class starship

Hmm i use scimitar class war birds in my fleet along with fedration ships .. and i dont know why people say phasers cant reatch over 100,000 TW's

bump

We welcome you to the universal stage.

OOC: But couldn't you have picked a better name? :P

OoC: Meh. Am I the only person who's developed their own technology? >_<

Anyway, nice to see another new space nation, should make for an even more active future ;)