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Two Vietnamese fisherman sit quietly, waiting for a catch, only a few hundred feet off the coast near the small town of Tam Ky in central Vietnam. Suddenly, out of nowhere, hundreds of amphibeous landing craft come wizzing by them. The ships hit the sand with a thud. Imediately, thousands of soldiers pour out unto the beach. One man stands out from the rest of the men.

Towering over his men, General Dominik Kelyev steps out of his landing craft. By this time, hundreds of townspeople have gathered around.

He turns and faces them.

"People of the nation of Vietnam, due to the failure of your government to carry out the ideals communism, the direct intervention by the Reformed Soviet Republic of Mattopolia has become necessary. We expect nothing less than your full cooperation in setting up a new government in this nation."

Kelyev walks away, and whispers to himself: "brief, but to the point!"

OOC *tag*

Will probably reply later, keep an eye out just in case.....

Imitora owns Vietnam. TG him.

Kelyev wanders through the camp of his new base of ops in Tamy Ky.
A bright young officer runs up to him.

"Sir!" the young man says.

"DON"T TOUCH ME" Kelyov replies.

The young officer, slightly startled, goes on

"Central Command (CC) has informed us that phase 1 (Operation Rook) is over. We are to engage a makeshift plan called..."

The officer searches through his papers

"...um...Operation...Beowulf. Operation Beowulf. We are to advance to the town of Hoi An to the north, were the 56th paratroopers wil meet us. We will seize a small airport there, then wait for orders to proceed across the river into Da Nang. We are also to set up AA artillery on the Cu Lao Cham islets. CC would also like to inform us that we are by no means bound by the rules of the Geneva Convention. He would like to note that we will be vulnerable to air attack, but our spies have recovered maps of backwoods trails. The trees should mask our advance, and make our movements virtually invisible to the enemy. "

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Well this is interesting. i will watch and wait.

As the two fisherman watch one pulls out a 2-way radio, and reports what is going on to Hobbeebian Operatives posted in the country. and then continues to fish.

"Crap, thats all we need , Soviet Reformist. . Sargeant call in a recon jet i want to know what is going on."whispers A Hobbeebian Assasin specialist

As the recon jet screams over head"This is recon wolf 5 there appears
aprox. 3000 troops and 2500 amphibious transports/attack craft, and it appears that General Dominik Kelyev is there as well ."

" thanks i owe you one "
As the team gets closer to the troops postion they start to here radio transmissions"

"this is CC you are to advance to the town of Hoi An to the north, were the 56th paratroopers wil meet you. you are to seize a small airport there, then wait for orders to proceed across the river into Da Nang. "-Unkown CC Orders

"thanx guys"-H.A.S

<OOC>
I'm reasonably certain that someone already owns Vietnam. I am also reasonably certain that the country that owns Vietnam is large enough to completely demolish you without raising a sweat.

That being said, this is a lousy RP. Your troops mysteriously appeared with no warning whatsoever, despite the fact that there are several large battles and wars going on around the Pacific Rim. The Rim is also one of the largest trading networks around, and there are many large nations whose merchant fleets routinely transit the area. This means that there are not hundreds but thousands of reconnaissance satellites watching any group of warships in the area.

All of the above means that there is no way your troops could suddenly appear without the knowledge of the many large and powerful nations in the area. If you have already posted something stating that a large percentage of your fleet is at sea, and perhaps one or two others indicating that your fleet was entering the area, you should include a link to those messages with your initial post.

Since you specified that this is an open RP, the implication is that you don't have any particular enemy in mind for the invasion. Assuming you are trying to roleplay a modern-tech nation, it would behoove you to:

A) Find out who owns the territory you wish to invade.
B) Communicate with that nation before starting the RP, in order to discuss the rules of engagement, timeline, etc.
C) Make several perparatory posts indicating that something is up (News reports that your fleet is at sea, sudden call-ups of reservists, etc).

If you have already done these things, you should include the links to all of them in your post. That way, you can avoid being lectured to by carping old-timers like me.

TEO

OOC: First off, who said that they mystriously entered the area unnoticed? How do you no that the Vietnamese navy (if there really is one) wasn't anhilited? What I have stated only took place in a very small area. I have not stated what has taken place in the greater theater of operations. And ofcourse the villagers aren't going to know that there was an invasion coming! What are they supposed to do, turn on their television sets that the generous Vietnamese government provided them with!?

OOC: First off, who said that they mystriously entered the area unnoticed? How do you no that the Vietnamese navy (if there really is one) wasn't anhilited? What I have stated only took place in a very small area. I have not stated what has taken place in the greater theater of operations. And ofcourse the villagers aren't going to know that there was an invasion coming! What are they supposed to do, turn on their television sets that the generous Vietnamese government provided them with!?

ooc: Well, Vietnam does have multiple TV stations, but that's not why I'm here... although it's highly unlikely that Lusaka would support the invasion of the Socialist Republic of Vietnam (accuse them of failing to carry out communism if you wish, but they only claim to be socialist anyway, so you may as well pick on the UK for voting in Labour) I'd have to say that the responses have been a touch sillier. No one even seems to have found out what tech level this chap's at, and Imitora's clearly future tech- why should he fight someone on a different plane of existence? So maybe somebody does "own Vietnam". I mean, hey, the Vietnamese might think they do. How long have you people been here that you can criticise someone so readily but not have managed to notice thatNS is an RPing multiverse? He's clearly attacking Vietnam, not BillyBob'sNashiunStayte. Give the chap a break, eh?

There is a Vietnamese navy (People's Navy Command, anyway).

The military developments in Vietnam, spotted early on by Eredronian reconnaissance satellites and surveillance aircraft, were quickly relayed to Eredron Military Command, and then to the Eredronian military base in Naori (NS nation existing close to the Philippine area). The Ardent Carrier Battle Group undergoing exercises in the Indian Ocean was put on alert, and ordered to move with all possible speed to the South China Sea.

The 50,000 troops stationed in Naori were likewise put on alert, and government officials in the newly reunified Naori government were notified of the situation.

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Private Communique: Mattopolia
URGENT

Eredron has been made aware of, and confirmed, reports that Mattopolian military forces have conducted an amphibious invasion on the shores of Vietnam. This open act of war against the Vietnamese government demands an immediate response, one that Eredron is fully prepared to make. All Mattopolian forces are urged to cease hostilities and withdraw from Vietnam, to prevent further bloodshed and instability in the region.

OOC: First off, who said that they mystriously entered the area unnoticed? How do you no that the Vietnamese navy (if there really is one) wasn't anhilited? What I have stated only took place in a very small area. I have not stated what has taken place in the greater theater of operations. And ofcourse the villagers aren't going to know that there was an invasion coming! What are they supposed to do, turn on their television sets that the generous Vietnamese government provided them with!?

You seem to have missed the entire point of my post.

First and foremost, Vietnam is claimed by Nianacio- a large and powerful nation that also claims a lot of other territory in Southeast Asia and the waters around it. It is extremely unlikely that any foreign military force could be in the area without Nianacio spotting it. Since your country is not located there, your fleet would have to travel across waters patrolled by Nianacio and under observation by nations who have trading, diplomatic, and military interests in the area.

When I decided to grab several small islands across the south Pacific, I first posted messages (as if they were news reports) stating that most of my fleet had gone to sea for reasons unknown. Then I posted that some of my fleet had been seen near Easter Island, following which I posted news alerts about the occupation of that island. I did the same thing with the other islands and territories I occupied.

You, on the other hand, merely stated that your forces suddenly appeared on teh shores of Vietnam, with no preliminary messages indicating that something was up. I have already stated why you can't make a sizeable military force suddenly appear on the coastline. For your information, that sort of thing is a textbook example of godmoding.

As far as the possibility of your annihilating any defending naval forces, that is something you would have to roleplay with the nation who owns the territory- which you have completely failed to do, as far as anyone can tell. As I wrote previously, if you have done all of that before you appeared on the Vietnamese coastline, you should have included links to the prior posts with your initial message.

There are several excellent examples of how to do what you want to do properly on the forum. Try reading the thread titled, The Desolation of Wolfish. There's another one titled, The Pacific Rim War. Both of these threads are currently active, and are good examples of how it should be done.

In a modern tech environment, there are too many satellites and professional busybodies who will pay close attention to any military movement for your fleet to suddenly appear without warning. In order to simulate this in the game environment, you should write messages as I have indicated, so people who wish to get involved can do so. It would also have been a good idea to make an attempt to discover who has a claim to the territory you wish to invade. That way, you have someone to roleplay with.


TEO