NationStates Jolt Archive


'Reds' arrested

Hybird
11-04-2004, 20:12
After recent events in the Autofactory and the National bank in the capital city, the President declared that all people expressing dangerous views should be arrested and imprisoned without trail.

Many people have already been arrested already and many others are too affaird to speak there mind.

Books expressing dangerous views are also getting destoryed.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news1002/burning.jpg

Book burning
Hybird
11-04-2004, 22:39
bump
Hallad
11-04-2004, 23:00
"This is truely sickening. To think that this modern world is still full of Nazi's and Imperialists... The True Directorate of Hallad suggests you change these policies before a people's revolution occurs, unless the 'president' of this nation wishes for that to happen."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
Falastur
11-04-2004, 23:13
Falastur condemns the actions of the Hybird Government, and calls upon the international community to do the same. We demand that these "political prisoners" be allowed to go free. If you will not allow this, then we request that you offer the prisoners the chance to emigrate to Falastur or stay in your prisons.
Hybird
12-04-2004, 00:17
Hybird is yet to derterman the fate of the Reds we are holding in custody
New Vladivostok
12-04-2004, 00:20
The Dominion of New Vladivostok suggests that you give them a small island they can have all to themselves, where they will be out of your hair.
The Horned Rat
12-04-2004, 00:20
IC:If you want to execute them we can donate warpstone.
OOC: it's a highley radioactive material, which causes mutation than death. Alas, most bodies can't stand such things for a couple of minutes after they have changed.
Hallad
12-04-2004, 00:31
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
Eredron
12-04-2004, 00:37
Private Communique

Eredron considers it imperative that Hybird is reminded of the rights and privileges accorded to prisoners and the accused by international law and moral decency.
12-04-2004, 00:37
Sicrat is against this false imprisonment and censorship. We urge you to release these political prisoners.
Falastur
12-04-2004, 00:41
Falastur stands behind Hallad on that decision. We wish to avoid war, even to the point of offering to take in any and every citizen that you would otherwise have arrested, just to save you the internal strife. But if you were to ever detonate a bomb aimed specifically to cause a painful and horrendous death for all of these citizens, we will have to retaliate.
Mekanta
12-04-2004, 00:46
"The Steel Empire wishes to free your people..."

"We wish to free them... all of them... from the hateful embrace of life, and into the calmingly cold embrace of death..."

The AI regards the viewer seriously for a moment, then starts laughing.

"No, no, we're kidding. But seriously, if the nation of Hybird does anything of the sort, Mekanta's armies will have no choice but to mobilize."

"Have you ever seen what an army of efficient, heavily trained killing machines can do? Execute those people, and you will soon find out... This is not an idle threat."
Hybird
12-04-2004, 07:51
The Prisoners are to be exiled to a Country of their choice, if they refuse to go or return they will be arrested and put on trail.
Soviet Haaregrad
12-04-2004, 08:04
The Prisoners are to be exiled to a Country of their choice, if they refuse to go or return they will be arrested and put on trail.

They're more then welcome here. Haaregradia has already cleared their applications for refugee status.
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 08:24
The Prisoners are to be exiled to a Country of their choice, if they refuse to go or return they will be arrested and put on trail.

We will take some.

Just beware, that in 20 years time when your regime is crumbling, and these people return to your nation, that they will have the interests of their people in their heads and with first hand experience of the good that socialism can do for a society.
Exham
12-04-2004, 08:47
While the goverment of Exham agrees with giving the prisoners refugee status, it is still sickened that such a ruthless, corrrupt and anti-free speech nation is allow to continue to exist and wishes that the execution of any citizens for these 'thought crimes' before the proclamation of exile be investigated by the UN and Hybird be held responsible for its actions.
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 08:50
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 08:54
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 08:57
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice
Exham
12-04-2004, 08:59
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice
The laws which counter-act the very basic tenants of international morality should not be respected in any international court.
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 09:01
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice

If this happens to be the case, we would allow the trials to go ahead on the condition that we have delegates present at the trials and lawyers to advise and consult the defendants in question.

Though, the issue remains that these people have not been charged with any crime other than expressing a viewpoint against the fascist regime of Hybird.
The Fivefold Star
12-04-2004, 09:13
The Holy Empire of The Fivefold Star is peaceful--and disinterested in this conflict. However, Immortal Emperor Winter is saddened by the apparent short-sightedness of some socialists. Imposing on the sovereignty of a nation is a comprable crime to the supression of speech displayed by The Empire of Hybird.

Opening your borders to refugees is commendable, as is Rotovia's offer of impartial tribunal. But a sovereign government should not be threatened merely because their policies differ from your dogma.

To do so proves the flaw of socialism: a secular government can only rule its people with human weakness, and lust for power is humanity's greatest temptation. The inevitable result is fascist insanity.

5FS
12-04-2004, 09:17
The United Republics will open its borders to these forward thinking, oppressed citizens. I feel sorry for "Hybrid" for that nation is losing a piece of its identity and giving way to a homogenius dictatorship where knowledge and progress is denied.
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 09:21
The Holy Empire of The Fivefold Star is peaceful--and disinterested in this conflict. However, Immortal Emperor Winter is saddened by the apparent short-sightedness of some socialists. Imposing on the sovereignty of a nation is a comprable crime to the supression of speech displayed by The Empire of Hybird.

Opening your borders to refugees is commendable, as is Rotovia's offer of impartial tribunal. But a sovereign government should not be threatened merely because their policies differ from your dogma.

To do so proves the flaw of socialism: a secular government can only rule its people with human weakness, and lust for power is humanity's greatest temptation. The inevitable result is fascist insanity.

5FS

Had these people been involved in violent activity or such, we would not have become involved. But all we see is innocent people being vilified for their beliefs. It is not socialism we are fighting for, but basic human freedoms. And lust for power? We see absolutely nothing to gain for Kanabia out of this no matter the result. We involve ourselves only for compassion as to the plight of people being unjustly persecuted for no good reason.
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 09:46
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice

If this happens to be the case, we would allow the trials to go ahead on the condition that we have delegates present at the trials and lawyers to advise and consult the defendants in question.

Though, the issue remains that these people have not been charged with any crime other than expressing a viewpoint against the fascist regime of Hybird.
"You may have delegates present in trial, but they may not involve themselves in the trial in any way shape or form. We are not int he bussiness of allowing outside influences to effect the rulings of our Courts"

Ministry of Justice
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 09:52
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice

If this happens to be the case, we would allow the trials to go ahead on the condition that we have delegates present at the trials and lawyers to advise and consult the defendants in question.

Though, the issue remains that these people have not been charged with any crime other than expressing a viewpoint against the fascist regime of Hybird.
"You may have delegates present in trial, but they may not involve themselves in the trial in any way shape or form. We are not int he bussiness of allowing outside influences to effect the rulings of our Courts"

Ministry of Justice

We guarantee that our delegates will not disturb the process, though we reserve the right to appeal the decisions made (Within reason), and shall we view the trial as unfair and illegitimate, request that another nation conduct the proceedings.

We await Hybirds response.
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 10:07
"Doing anything of the sort is genocide. If you do decide to do that The True Directorate of Hallad will liberate your people."

-Ryan O'Donnel
Commissariate of Foreign Affairs
"The Allied States of Rotovia offers it's services in providing en masse trials. We have trialed many public enemies for foreign nations at their request and have been held to be the fairest in the world"

Ministry of Justice

Another clear example of Rotovia's lack of support for freedom of speech and basic civil rights. How can putting people on trial for expressing a political viewpoint ever be regarded as fair?!?
"The mannor if their arrest is not at issue. And if they are innocent of crimes under their law then they shall be freed, if they have infact been legally detained and are found guilty under their law they shall be sentanced accordingly"

Minstry of Justice

If this happens to be the case, we would allow the trials to go ahead on the condition that we have delegates present at the trials and lawyers to advise and consult the defendants in question.

Though, the issue remains that these people have not been charged with any crime other than expressing a viewpoint against the fascist regime of Hybird.
"You may have delegates present in trial, but they may not involve themselves in the trial in any way shape or form. We are not int he bussiness of allowing outside influences to effect the rulings of our Courts"

Ministry of Justice

We guarantee that our delegates will not disturb the process, though we reserve the right to appeal the decisions made (Within reason), and shall we view the trial as unfair and illegitimate, request that another nation conduct the proceedings.

We await Hybirds response.
"If you wish to attend the trials you will at least give us the courtesy of a justification should you appeal the decision of Judges who have been called The fairest on NS and have judge over two hundred international cases without complaint"

Ministry of Justice.
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 10:13
"If you wish to attend the trials you will at least give us the courtesy of a justification should you appeal the decision of Judges who have been called The fairest on NS and have judge over two hundred international cases without complaint"

Ministry of Justice.

Shall we feel that there is lack of evidence, lack of defendant representation or lack of impartial judging would be examples for which we would appeal.

I trust the defendants themselves have the right to appeal for whatever reason as expected in a fair courtroom?
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 10:19
"If you wish to attend the trials you will at least give us the courtesy of a justification should you appeal the decision of Judges who have been called The fairest on NS and have judge over two hundred international cases without complaint"

Ministry of Justice.

Shall we feel that there is lack of evidence, lack of defendant representation or lack of impartial judging would be examples for which we would appeal.

I trust the defendants themselves have the right to appeal for whatever reason as expected in a fair courtroom?
"If there is a lack of evidence the case will not progress past the first hearing infront of a Magistrate. Should a defendant see fit to appeal the ruling of the Supreme Court that may appeal to the (Supreme) Court of Appeals then to a Full Sitting of the Supreme Court, then to the High Court, then to the High Court of Appeals and finally to the Areopagus Council. I am sure you will aggree that leave sufficant room for appeal. An impartial ruling would result in the trial becoming void and the Judge concerned dismissed under the National Justice Act. As for legal representation, it is a garunteed right under our Consitution and there would be no shortage of qualified lawyers within our nation looking to take on such a high profile case(s), especially considering their bills would be covered by the State"

Minstry of Justice
Kanabia
12-04-2004, 10:27
"If you wish to attend the trials you will at least give us the courtesy of a justification should you appeal the decision of Judges who have been called The fairest on NS and have judge over two hundred international cases without complaint"

Ministry of Justice.

Shall we feel that there is lack of evidence, lack of defendant representation or lack of impartial judging would be examples for which we would appeal.

I trust the defendants themselves have the right to appeal for whatever reason as expected in a fair courtroom?
"If there is a lack of evidence the case will not progress past the first hearing infront of a Magistrate. Should a defendant see fit to appeal the ruling of the Supreme Court that may appeal to the (Supreme) Court of Appeals then to a Full Sitting of the Supreme Court, then to the High Court, then to the High Court of Appeals and finally to the Areopagus Council. I am sure you will aggree that leave sufficant room for appeal. An impartial ruling would result in the trial becoming void and the Judge concerned dismissed under the National Justice Act. As for legal representation, it is a garunteed right under our Consitution and there would be no shortage of qualified lawyers within our nation looking to take on such a high profile case(s), especially considering their bills would be covered by the State"

Minstry of Justice

OOC: I'm assuming you meant a "non impartial ruling" not "an impartial ruling"? :)

IC: Those conditions sound most fair. We await the response of Hybird. Shall he decline however, we will explore other options.
Falastur
12-04-2004, 10:34
The Prisoners are to be exiled to a Country of their choice

Falastur proposed this idea, and will not back down now. We are a very large nation, and can most likely take in as many exiles as there are.....However we will leave it up to you to tell us quite how many are asking to come to Falastur.
Hybird
12-04-2004, 10:36
We will agree to allowing the trails suggested, we await the final arrangements
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 10:53
We will agree to allowing the trails suggested, we await the final arrangements"Thank you, we will cover the costs of transport and will begin arranging Judges to try the cases immediately"

Ministry of Justice
Hybird
12-04-2004, 11:00
They will be held in Hybird until the trail
Rotovia
12-04-2004, 11:02
They will be held in Hybird until the trail"As you wish, we will inform as to when we are ready to begin the trials"

Ministry of Justice
Enarchovia
12-04-2004, 11:05
External Communication

Memo:

From: Chair-Official Foreign Affairs Council, Federal Assembly
To: Hybrid Department of Foreign Affairs

The Federal Assembly of the Federation of Enarchovia has requested that you put on hold the trials regarding your political prisoners to open up dialogue between our Security Forces and your government regarding terrorists and information.

We hold capitive one of the key members of a leading terrorist organization that has been active within your country for many years. He first came to Enarchovia 4 years ago believeing he could use our nation as a safe haven. We was subsequently arrested and detained. Other members of this terrorist organization are curently active within our borders and are under survelience. In return for your political prisoners safe passage to exile we will not only hand over this terrorist, plus the information we have gathered, but arrest and extradite the remaining operatives within our nation.

Yours Fraternally
Otto White
Chair-Official Foreign Affairs Council
Federal Assembly of the Federation of Enarchovia
Hybird
12-04-2004, 12:29
Hybird will be putting the Prisoners on trail, the prisoners if found to be guilty will be exciled, if they found innocent, we have yet to decided there fate then.
Falastur
12-04-2004, 12:46
OOC If you want me to take any of your prisoners, you're gonna have to tell me how many want to leave, so I can send the right number of ships to cart them off....
12-04-2004, 13:06
United Socialist States of Tarris also offer the same thing to Hybird. Tarrisian government will help them to get a better life on our nation, instead of banished by evil Hybird government.
Hybird
12-04-2004, 13:15
Hybird will re-consider it's position on this matter
JiangGuo
12-04-2004, 13:23
The Federation of JiangGuo is disgusted with the oppression of certain groups within Hybrid for purely political ends. While JiangGuo has a policy of non-interference in the internal policies of other soverign nations, we reserve the right to take action in the best interest of the population within Hybird.

signed
*Signature*
President of Federation of JiangGuo
JiangGuo
12-04-2004, 13:24
The Federation of JiangGuo is disgusted with the oppression of certain groups within Hybrid for purely political ends. While JiangGuo has a policy of non-interference in the internal policies of other soverign nations, we reserve the right to take action in the best interest of the population within Hybird.

signed
*Signature*
President of Federation of JiangGuo
Hybird
12-04-2004, 18:44
Hybird warns what any attempt to attack there nation will result in massive civilians casualities.
Hattia
12-04-2004, 19:02
The Federation of JiangGuo is disgusted with the oppression of certain groups within Hybrid for purely political ends. While JiangGuo has a policy of non-interference in the internal policies of other soverign nations, we reserve the right to take action in the best interest of the population within Hybird.

signed
*Signature*
President of Federation of JiangGuo

Ditto

And if you are going to exile them if they are found guilty, then you may send them to Hattia
Exham
12-04-2004, 19:37
Hybird warns what any attempt to attack there nation will result in massive civilians casualities.
And yet I fear that with such an oppressive and corrupt government in power that more civilian "casualties" are inevitable with military invervention or not. You will be watched.
New Cnaan
12-04-2004, 20:15
The Prisoners are to be exiled to a Country of their choice, if they refuse to go or return they will be arrested and put on trail.

They are more than welcome to our humble country, to take part in a free and united society, as opposed to the Hybridian imperialist capitalism.
Hybird
12-04-2004, 23:30
The Prisoners have been exicled to the countries of their choice (OOC: If you need information about that then please ask me, but I think too many nations have opened their boarders for me to go into much detail)

5 of the prisoners refused to go into excile, they will be exercuted.
Exham
13-04-2004, 00:13
The Prisoners have been exicled to the countries of their choice (OOC: If you need information about that then please ask me, but I think too many nations have opened their boarders for me to go into much detail)

5 of the prisoners refused to go into excile, they will be exercuted.
Exham was under the impression that any prisoners who refused exile were to be given an international trial.
Hybird
13-04-2004, 00:31
If they are found guilty in the trail they will be exercuted, we are just preparing for if they do loose the case.

Sorry, I should have made it more clearer.
13-04-2004, 12:45
Hybird, why not just exile them to United Socialist States of Tarris. Let us give them a better life that they demanded on your filthy imperialist capitalist nation. Tell me how many "Reds" that you want to be exiled. And where do you want to put them ? Tarris ? Hattia ? Other nations ? Tell us.

And well, let me tell you something, you know why they break the laws and opposing your filthy government ?! As proletariat-class people, they've worked hard for the development on your country, but as the exchange, you give them nothing but banish them for no reason. Better watch out, Hybird....
Hybird
13-04-2004, 12:56
So be it, the military will drag them onto a plane to Tarris, however, I must warn you that this five are dangerous people, be it on your own head, if your goverment gets couped
14-04-2004, 11:00
We are ruled by communist government. Nothing to be afraid of. They want to coup ? Face the Tarrisian FSB first.... :roll:

But well, as long as they're not doing something suspicious and against Tarrisian communist government, they're okay and free to enjoy their own life like what they'd demanded on Hybird before.
Naribia
20-04-2004, 12:02
Most of the Communists in Naribia were Shot or exiled after there failed Coup, when the Communist Party tired to storm the Nero'Politan(Main Goverment Building), the Coup failed miserbly.

Allthough Naribia has allways had an Authoriterian Goveremnt, First and Absolute Monerchy, now a One-Party Republic. Naribia now is entering a peroid of slow Proggresive Democratic Change and we condem the Hybird Goverment for there actions.

And call for a "Peoples" not Communist Revolution!
Blargia
20-04-2004, 12:40
Bring the here! We're a decent nation. We alllow everyone to have their own views. So come here! Send the exiled ones to Blargia.