NationStates Jolt Archive

OOC: Doujin, yes, I copied you...:P Sniper Country, this could also facilitate the IMF's job.

Attention to all nations

Zoogiedom is calling for a conference on aerial technology...to be held in the air force's technology showcase, Zoogies Air Force Base, we invite air force generals and government advisors to attend to discuss the future of aviation.

We hope that the nations involved in this conference will be able to exchange ideas and suggest concepts that will produce better and more efficient aircraft, benefitting our respective defense agencies and nations as a whole.

In any war, air power is critical. Wars can easily be won without a navy, for many nations don't even have sea borders. Wars can be won without an army in certain cases...but in nearly every war, the victor of the skies has a distinct advantage over the other.

Technology level 2004-2020 [modern tech]

Can I join in, I don't really develop much air tech, bar our little business earlier, but I am trying to build a large airforce, and hearing peoples ideas would be most helpful.

GM wishes to send several of its AF officials and aircraft designers to this conference. If possible, we also wish to bring along one of our newest aircraft, a heavily modified B-52 for examination by the representatives of other nations. We also propose that other nations do the same, if possible.

The UCSNE will send representatives from the Air Warfare Research and design, specifically a Major George Hartman and Lt. Deunan Einsman, as well as David Sennter, a representative from Berliston Aerospace, the designer of the F-109D.

If you wish us to bring aircraft like GM, we have an F-109D and the EB-1C bomber.

Of course you may join...you needn't necesarily be an air power to join; however you do need to be in good graces with our government...

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We are also extending an invitation to the following nations to join:

Raysia (MT)
United Elias
Kazakhstania
Omz222
New Empire (Too future?)
Taiwan

and others, because of course I'm forgetting many...

Great Mateo, you may bring along your aircraft as well. New Empire, your delegates are most welcome...

Glad to hear I am welcome.
(I could post this on the got embassy thread, but 2 birds with one stone, eh?) We would like to establish an embassy in Zoogiedom. We will return the favour if you ask it, by allowing a Zoogie embassy in the city of chambers, Jordaxias capital city. (I allowed the first 2 embassies in today, as part of an agreement.) I should mention to you that you will be the 3rd non-Jordaxians ever allowed on the main isle, and it is rare even for Jordaxians to be allowed within the City of Chambers.

We will accept your offer of an exchange of embassies. Hopefully we will remember your nation when updating our list of embassies.

NE, your aircraft are welcome.

Doujin is more than interested in joining this conference. We are always interested in the top-of-the-line airplanes for our Naval Fleet.

I will send two aviation technitions. We haven't developed any aircraft yet, but we have a small airforce.

GameFAQ is allowed permission to join, although we are making an exception as nations with no domestic air force is usually not permitted...

Doujin is more than welcome to join.

EDIT: Misunderstood topic ^_^

Anyway, Raysia is currently working on some new missile project, ranging from miniature multi-fire missiles, to Fighter-dropped cruise missiles, to new air-dropped high-yield anti-sub/ship torpedoes.

PS: I am 2006-2020

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http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig5.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/factbook.htm)

The major Omzian aerospace contractor and firm, Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation, along with civilian and military representatives from the Omzian Air Force and Naval Aviation much appreciate the invitation to such conference of such kind and sort and the compliments given. Regarding this however, we are honoured to be invited and must accept the invitation, as OMASC has several things to discuss on both doctrines of aerial warfare for the twentieth-first century and new proposals for technologies.

The contractor OMASC along iwth the sub-contractors will send representatives to the meeting, as the Omzian Air Force officers are mainly busy.

We are looking forward to such meeting, and we request The Zoogie People to allow us express our great appreciation again, regarding the invitation.

OOC: Just for reference, I mainly operate technologies within the timeline of 2005-2008.

The ARSB wishes to join this conference for possible technological advancements beyond our current level.

I am currently developing an aircraft capable of operations outside of the atmosphere. Would this be too advanced for your conference?

I am currently developing an aircraft capable of operations outside of the atmosphere. Would this be too advanced for your conference?there is no market for it... what would it be used for, fighting sattelites?

Curse those sattilites...

AFRP and its owning corperation Mikosolf would like to attend.

The Shogunate of Tomzilla wishes to send 3 of our top aircraft designers to the conference. They were working recently on our latest development, the M-2000 "Flying Maser".

OOC: The M-2000 basically uses a small laser cannon on each wing that fire a thin, straight laser. Is this too futuristic for you?

Durtistan requests a seat or two at the Conference.
Whilst not a big producer in terms of arms or aircraft, we are definitely interested in sharing some ideas and possibilities.

"I, Chief Air Marshall (OOC: Basicly, FW's equivelant of a general) Micheal Thorp would like to attend this conferance; I would be glad to talk air theory, air design, and other such matters with the other nations of the world. I am quite interested in how our doctrines differ from others' doctrines."

Micheal Thorp
Chief Air Marshall

Sileetris, on behalf of RelicArms(Relic Regional weapons manufacturer), will send representatives to this meeting. We are an innovative force in the aerial combat market and can bring some very impressive developments to the table, and we hope to take home several lessons as well.

-RelicArms Aeronautics Division
5962 Smithy Avenue, Leetria, Sileetris

The Commonwealth of Ise requests to send a delegate to the conference. We believe this opportunity will be of great assistance to the air forces of all attending nations.

OOC: I'm 2009-2010
IC:

CK-ROC, Taiwan's largest defence corporation, would like to send representatives to the conference. We are honored to be invited, and will also be bringing a delegation from the Taiwanese government, and a few sub-contractors along.

Once again, we humbly thank you for the invitation.

Richard Branson
CEO of CK-ROC Systems

The Allied States of Celtayoshi wishes to send three (3) people to attend this conference, they will be two representitives of Celtayoshi's Shorts Aerospace company and the Chief Air Marshall (in waiting). We hope this will benfit our nation, and several others.

The Federation Aerospace Forces wishes to send a delegation to the conference and display the XB-7 technology demonstrator.

The Dominion of Kotterdam officially requests permission to send representatives in the form of Lieutenant General Arlo Byng of the Dominion Air Force's Research and Development department and Doctor Peter Stephanopolous of the Vega Aerospace Consortium's Engineering, Manufacturing, and Development division. Additionally, we too would like to send an aircraft - Namely an F-34B Perseus tactical fighter.

The Emirate of Al-Sabir requests permission to send a delegation to this conference.

The Chief of Staff of the Shildonia Flying Corps. Richard Little, and Chief Air Marshall Quentin Wood would like to represent the People's Republic at the conference.

As ever The Kingdom of Crookfur are willing to send a delgation to such an assembly.

A delegation will be dispatched, if allowed, to demonstrate five key systems in McLeodian aviation technology.

The first will be a live demonstration of an Al-52 Dragon in flight and firing. The second would be of an MEB-1M Mothership and its payload of StealthHawk UCAVs. Third would come a demonstration of ANTARES technology, still in developmental stages, but expected to be fully operational by 2010. Fourthly, the Dragon will attempt to intercept two StealthHawks being piloted using ANTARES.

As a final demonstration, McLeodian Airborne Cavalry will perform a helicast operation using A/MV-32 and MV-54 VTOL transports.

Raysia, I assume that you are attending? You would be most welcome.

Omz222, we look forward to seeing you at the conference.

Soviet Bloc is also welcome; we are sorry that we did not invite you in the first place; it seems we forgot that your nation also developed aircraft.

Brandoniats, AFRP, Durtistan, Celtayoshi, Ise, all your nations are permitted to attend the conference, although we don't know much about your nations.

Sileetris, if you keep the technology level modern rather than post modern, you are welcome to join. Same with Tomzilla...although lasers would be too futuristic for us.

Fluffywuffy, Taiwan, Autonomous City States, Kotterdam, Al Sabir, Crookfur, and McLeod 03, and Shildonia are all permitted as well...wow...big conference.

Chardonay would like to come. We don't produce too many aircraft, but we have co-developed two helicopter sesigns and are working on a fighte-bomber and a close support plane similar to an F-111

"Close support? Ok, he can come."

OOC: Sorry, running out of ways to say 'Ok, you're welcome to come.'

where is it being held?

It is being held in Zoogies Air Force Base, which, incidentally, is located in the city of Zoogies, Zoogiedom. :P

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/54396/zoogiedom_map.jpg

When is it being held?
Do you mind me showing off the little JXN-87?
I would kind of just sit it, on a podium. I can't think of a way of showing it off. Maybe I could do some kind of target test, with it moving from water to land, taking out tanks? (Speed tests too.)

Sure, I don't mind...as for when...hopefully soon, and hopefully Kazakhstania and United Elias will have responded to their invitations. I suppose I'll keep this up for two more days before starting it.

we would like to attend

Sorry, no can do.

Anatoray wishes attendence at this Conference. We wish to send a delegate and some of our top engineers.

Our aircraft can be found here: http://www.freewebs.com/anatoray/aircraft.htm

Your aircraft seem too future and mecha-ish...but we will allow you to attend.

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Then if he wishes to join at that time, he is still welcome to...hopefully we will get this started by then.

UE won't be back before 14 April.

Raysia chooses to arrive via special [show-off] means :)

Escorted by two Rb-225 Megafortress (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rb225.htm) at 5,000 ft above ground, an RB-20X7 Supersonic Transport (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rt20x7.htm) opens it's rear cargo door in mid-air.

The Transport kicks in it's booster engines and drops it's cargo out the back as it's speed increases to supersonic. A DB-218 Drop-Box Mk II (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/dropbox.htm) falls out into the open air, and freefalls a good 4,000 feet. At 1,000 feet above ground, the hydrogen/oxygen landing rockets kick in and orient the box into an upright position, then quickly slow the dropping cargo container down to a reasonable speed. The engines cut about 50 feet above ground, venting their hydrogen fuel into the air. The people in the drop box feel a mild thud as the shock-absorbers take the impact into the ground somewhat comfortably, landing in an empty field about 200 feet from a parking lot where spectators stood. The people at the ropes on the edge of the lot could feel a warm breeze from the engines, but were in no danger as the box descended.

After waiting a few seconds for dramatic affect, explosive bolts suddenly kick in and collapse the rocket engines like cardboard boxes, spilling no fuel on the ground, because it had already vented. Another much louder set of bolts explode and blow the seems of the walls apart, and cutting the rop piece off down the middle. The sides of the box fall to the ground, still hinged at the base, creating nice little ramps.

But surprisingly, it appeared that nothing was inside!

A few mechanical sounds could be heard from the distant nothingness inside the box, and the crowd began to wonder what was going on.

The sound of blades quietly moving through air could be heard as the drop-box suddenly lurched upwards slightly on it's shock absorbers. Some sharp-eyed people in the audience could see a slight distortion in the air above the box, starting to move towards them. As it approached, the crowd could definately feel the lifting wind from a helicopter, but only a few could see it, and no one could hear anything but the propellers whirling in the air, and a quiet electric motor running at high rpms.

Just in front of the crowd, the RAH-66-2018 Full-Stealth Commanchee (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/comm.htm) drops it's active camoflauge, changing it's Liquid-Crystal hull skin to a standard VIP paint scheme, and revealing the pilot and passenger in the cockpit. The electric engine shifts to it's Gasoline counterpart, suddenly increasing the noise a great deal as it moves off toward the conference center, the crowd cheering as they follow the now-visible helicopter with their eyes.

Minutes later, the helicopter lands at the conference center, and a representative from Raysia Aerospace steps out of the cockpit, looking around for his welcoming party (if there is one).

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Lashuga would like to send their top three air force advisers. They will bring... a B-2 modified to drop human corpses, ahem I mean very large bombs I did not say CORPSES. Their are racks on the inside of the Chamber to hold a gas chamber to gas...I mean help the people of other countries more of this method of death. I mean method of humanity later. Lashuga is honored to take part.

Oh, I am going to kill zoogie then drop the corpses out of my B-2 Corpses plane.

:shock: Woops! Forgot to stop typing. Bye now.

The Northrop-Grumman Corporation would like to send a delegate to this conference.

John Northrop
Chairman, Chief Executive Officer and President
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ooc will it be in this thread?

Well, what do you guys think? Would you prefer it to be in this thread? I have no problems about it going either way, really.

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A single man runs over to the helicopter to greet the Raysian delegates. 'Welcome,' he says. 'My name is Michael Walsh. I'm actually a chief petty officer for the Navy, but I'm currently off duty, so I'm taking care of the earlier arrivals...a five star hotel has been arranged for you, come right this way and i will take you to your transportation.'

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We have also received word that Kazakhstania is attending the conference.

Hey. Don't steal my name Zoogie. You are literally one letter from it. Lucky this time. And I'm not no petty officer.

Yeah, I'm fine with it being in this thread.

(OOC) Whoa...really? I made that name on the spot last night :P

The EB-1C was traveling supersonic, and it's enlarged cockpit was good enough for the 7 that sat in it, with an F-109D close by. The two aircraft were odd looking together, one looking conventional, the other looking strange and futuristic as they flew towards The Zoogie People. As they were cleared, they activated their Photocell Adaptive Camouflage as they screamed in descent towards the airbase, eventually slowing. The EB-1C turned off it's AdCam as it made it's landing, but the F-109D kept it on as it landed, near vertically. The F-109D was taxiied towards the EB-1C, it's near transparent red stencil on the nose slightly visible. It was the F-109D that had engaged in wargames with Raysia, and the red 'kill' marker was the outline of an RF-11D. Captain O'Connor, raised himself from the seat, unclipped his gray helmet, and hopped from the cockpit, stretching in his black G-suit as he watched the Raysian Comanche fly by. The EB-1C's door opened up, as the pilot and navigator stepped out, followed by Major Hartman and Lt. Einsman. Sennter also appeared, following Einsman as she surveyed the Raysian display.

"Hey, Captain!" Sennter was walking over to the Gray on Gray camoflauged F-109, adjusting his Berliston Aerospace cap as he went.

"Hey. How was the ride in?"

O'Connor and Sennter were good friends, and had gone to the same high school before O'Connor chose the Air Force Academy and Sennter chose Jennings Institute of Technology and Engineering.

"Good... Although it seems kinda empty here, don't ya think? Are those Raysians over there?"

"I dunno, who else goes to battle in a box?"

As a fighter pilot, O'Connor was not fond to the idea of getting stuck in a large box with a large IR signature in the middle of the air, but then again, most grunts would rather do that than walk.

Dr. John Amulek, the delegate from Raysia Aerospace, watched the New Empire plane land. He smirked as he recognized the NE Pilot.

Looking comfortable in his green business suit, he walks over to the NE pilot with a smile on his face. "Well well well... it's the man who flew the plane that barely beat out the plane we were about to phase out... O'Connor was it?"

The UltraCruise II began to slow as it entered the final approach to the landing strip. It was travelling supersonically, but did not give off a loud sonic boom as typical of supersonic aircraft. Most observers would have mistaken it for an odd-looking Concorde.

When the plane had landed, the large doors are opened, and the sight of semi-naked women greet the cameras. CEO Richard Branson was right behind them, and hurriedly walked off the plane. In Taiwan, he was known for being a playboy.

He looked around for the Zoogian delegation.

"That's right, I'm the guy who flew a modified air trials aircraft that made you realize you needed to phase out. We've got the frontline version now, Ol'Woodstock's loaded with the good stuff. Photocell AdCam, new Sileetris radar, and the new 'Thena variant that defeats it. And of course, new Guided Ammo from Kotterdam. Give us a few years, and we'll have a fully integrated HELLADS system."

"Hey, fighter jock! Leave the technobabble to me."

O'Connor rolled his eyes slightly as Sennter walked over towards the two, his Tablet PC under arm.

"Sorry about that, the Captain can get riled up when anyone knocks his birds. David Sennter, Berliston Aerospace," he said, extending his hand.

OOC: Yep, really, you are talking to the one and only, the original ladies man, Mr. W*lsh!
(It really isn't hard to figure out the remaining letter, I'm pretty sure it's fairly obvious to everyone.)

Commodore Samuel A. Perry (head of Feazanthian air force) would like to join these talks. With your confirmation, he shall arrive in a Sea Harrier from Mojo squadron as soon as possible.

Amulek raised an eyebrow as he extended his hand to the delegate and shook hands, "You guys got that sileetris radar as well? Man, I'd say it's quickly becomming cheapened, but it still rocks everything else."

The Omzian delegation planned to arrive on time and quickly for the delegation, although the war didn't really deter them all, since they are not absolutely the "needed ones". Under the escort of two Omzian F/A-22C Raptor fighter jet in international waters for a brief moment, the C-77B Dasher supersonic VIP transport plane itself left off towards The Zoogie People with three delegations. They had a job to do. Although there's a room for them to show off their equipments, they rather wished to arrive on time and as OMASC is more specialized on specific aircraft with added efficency and percision rather than introducing a whole lot. The delegation also looked forward to see the ground-breaking technologies of some other nations, and although the Omzian Air Force has several reasons to stick with the old, they'd much perfer the Omzian Air Force to step up development.

In a short moment however, the Dasher slowly descended from its high cruise altitude and slowed down, as the sleek aircraft, painted with Omzian Air Force identification marks, touched down with the three delegations after a small contact with ground crews. Colonel Hanson Lorane, the Assistant Staff of Contractor Relations and Development of the Air Force and part of the OHDF Joint Staff Board, stepped down with a fine-looking brown offduty military uniform to represent his country and smiled as he scanned around for the delegations of the other countries. The second and third to step down include Gorand Vorans, the OMASC Administrative Board Chief of Technology Development, and Landane Hagras, the OMASC Administrative Board Chief of Outside Relations. As they stepped down, their more business-styled suits became obvious as they are the representives of the conglomerate of Omzian arms contractors, electronics manufacturing companies, and computer technologies companies.

I want a ban on nuclear air propulsion, it will destoy neutral nations if one is destroyed in a war due to fallout. It is a flying dirty bomb.

Feazanthian, your Commodore is welcome...(note: isn't Comomdore a naval officer's term?)

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As I can't really think up a good post right now, er...ah...welcome all delegates...

OOC: Ehh going to bed soon, might as well get this over with. Stupid return to school :-(

Miles up in the air three fiery silhouettes could be seen, descending extremely quickly, deaccelerating even faster. The two outer orbs split up and began circling the area, while the middle fireball continued onward. Eventually it cools down to reveal a polished black DC-15 dropship, with the RelicArms logo, which promptly and efficiently plops down on a landing pad. The back ramp lowers and a black limosine with tiny Sileetris flags waving from the corners rolls out, followed by a young businessman. Josef Wieldermann wore a black business suit that probably cost more than any two other delegates combined, with a red silk undershirt and a purple tie. As he stepped out into the sun, his glasses changed their opacity and became sunglasses, while he placed a bowler hat over his short blond hair. Approaching the other delegates around the corner he heard "You guys got that sileetris radar as well? Man, I'd say it's quickly becomming cheapened, but it still rocks everything else.". He smiled and thought to himself in the words of Frank Sinatra; You ain't seen nothin' yet....

The remaining fireballs extinguished themselves, revealing two Relic Edition Valefor 29a fighters, which sharply turned and made their descent to the runway. At the very last minute, they somehow slowed down and pulled a bizarre turn that their control surfaces would have no means of achieving, then continued to come in for a normal landing, except for one difference: They were landing backwards.

"Hm, nice tricks, but does that thing have a hot-tub in the back." Branson said to himself.

Two EA-135As flew with a supersonic speed towards The Zoogie People at 5000 feet. In the first cockpit sat Airforce General Abdullah Sharif. In the second cockpit Major Omar Johnson made contact with the airfield's ground crew. They got a green light for landing and the 2 planes started to descend. They touched down on the landing strip and the 2 delegates stepped out of their cockpits.

They both wore a grey G-Suit and dark sunglasses. Omar grabbed a briefcase, looked around and said:"Damn, do you see all those weird planes?" Abdullah nodded and said:"I hope there is some interesting stuff for us to buy as well. Do you have the laptop the minister gave us?" "Yes, I have it right here" Omar replied....

The JXN, given there were no areas of water nearby, had to be transported in. Of course, The Jordaxian representative had to show up with a little style.

The massive plane lowered the wheels quite a bit before landing. There were 67 of them. The JXN's were sitting in the back. He managed to get 30 in the back of the cargo hold, but he could fit far more.
After all, they hadn't put any in the second floor.
Every other plane had to be moved awaw from the airfield just so it could land, but with a wing span of about 500 metres, and a wing area of about 1 acre, it was understandable.
The cargo door in the back opened, and the representatives limosine drove out, up to the other representatives. The Jordaxian representative emerged.
"Good day gentlemen. When do we begin?"

OOC: I sold this design to Zoogie, but since he hasn't chosen to release the design on sale to the world, and I still can, I thought I'd arrive in it.
(Zoogie sells them though.)
Can't be bothered finding the link to the page, but the rights are mine, from boeing, just the actual plane won't be on sale for numerous RL years yet.

The Durtistan conference team arrived by Gulfstream V, quietly and almost unnoticed.

Inside, packing briefing materials, were the conference team and their advisors:

Air Marshall James Morrisson, the man in charge of the Protectorate Air Force's future.
Wing Commander Aston DeBrett, head of the PAF's Foreign Technology unit.
Flight Lieutentant Gail Roskilde, test pilot and only officer to qualify on every single aircraft flown by the PAF.
Anthony Warspite, nephew of the Lord Protector and representative of Durtistan Arms.
Gordon Tyms, junior Diplomat and trade advisor.

As the aircraft rolled to a halt, Morrisson peered out of the windows at some of the impressive technology outside.
"Very nice," he commented softly "well folks...we're here. Mr. Tyms and I will be doing the talking, the rest of you are along as advisors and I expect you'll want to circulate, drool...that kind of thing."
There were various muttered agreements.
"Right then!" said Morrisson brightly as the aircraft door opened "let's get on with it!"

OOC- Dammit, quit arriving in fancy ways... You're making me look bad...

Suddenly, over the horizon, clown music can be heard... As it nears people on the ground can see a bright red bi-plane lumbering through the air. A man in a suit is walking across the wing, he's carrying a breifcase and a pole with a bunch of plates on it... Slowly the plane descends and the man is lowered off of the wing... Its Secretary of the Air Force Sergei Stanislov. In the dual cockpit, Major Bodechenko and Major General Andrei Kerov hop out, the three men make up the ARSB delegation to the conference.

As they left the bi-plane sit there, they quietly laughed to themselves...

"You think they noticed us?" laughed Stanislov.

"I'd sure hope they'd notice..." replied Bodechenko.

Kerov just laughs as they walk away.

"I hope we don't have to ride that back to the Vinogradov" commented Stanislov.

"Nah, I think they're bringing in a little bit better of an aircraft..." Kerov said, stiffling a laugh.

Sergei Stanislov- Former pilot and Sec. of the Air Force and former circus wing-walker... Yes, that's right, we recruit members for the air force from the circus...

Major Hugo Bodechenko- One of the finest pilots in the ARSB air force

Maj. Gen. Andrei Kerov- Commander of the First Air Force, former pilot, helps develop aircraft for the ARSB

"Command, this is Mojo one. We are on station."
"Confirmed, Mojo one. Target bearing 3-5-7 at three miles."
"Roger that, command."

Twenty-five sea harriers descended from the clouds and slowed to subsonic speeds. As they approached, they broke formation above the base.
"This is Mojo one. All fighters break off and head back to the Asoka."
"Roger, Mojo one. We'll come for you when you're done. Mojo two, out."

One of the harriers began descending, while the others became inverted and headed back to sea. The lead harrier, Mojo one, began hovering several dozen meters from the runway. It landed lightly, and the cockpit slid back. A tall man with semi-asian features stepped out and removed his flight suit to reveal the orange and yellow dress uniform of the Feazanthian military.
"Commodore Perry reporting. Where is the meeting?"

Sennter shook, and then looked at the nose of the Super Tempest.

"Yeah, and of course we had already designed Pallas Athena with Kotterdam to counter it... The Technocracy has its benefits."

For what must have been the hundredth time since the aircraft came into formation with the small Challenger business jet, Lieutenant General Byng looked out the window at the sleek form of the fighter flying escort and marveled at how different it was from the F/A-18 fighters he'd began his career flying before he got his doctorate. More than anything, the F-34B Perseus was his baby. He was the one who'd suggested the defensive interception role for the MicroBurst round. He'd even worked with the VAC and Viking Military Tech to design the SERAAM missiles hanging under the fighter's wings.

Watching the all-moving control surfaces and the thrust vectoring paddles move as the pilot made minute adjustments, he sighed. He longed to be out there, strapped into all that power and grace, feeling the aircraft respond to his commands with every twitch of the stick. Closing his eyes, he tried to remember how it felt, pushing the envelope, screaming through the sky at almost twice the speed of sound. The day he forgot what that was like would be the day he retired. Opening his eyes, he looked out the window. He'd give his left leg to be out there - If he still had his own left leg to give.

Unconsciously, he scratched the place where the plastic limb joined with his flesh. The new prosthetic was almost real. It gave him essentially the same freedom of motion as if he had his natural leg... And yet, it had an unfortunate tendency to seize up under high G-loadings. Even if it hadn't, by the time he'd been mated with the new prosthetic, he'd taken his doctorate, and been transfered away from the combat arm. In fact, by the time he'd gotten his new limb, he'd gotten his first leaf. Now, with the leaf and star of a Lieutenant General riding on his shoulder, he knew his days as a fighter jock were long gone... And yet that didn't stop him from dreaming.

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Even as the fighter taxied to a stop alongside the VIP aircraft, forward hatch was opening, the stairs lowering as the Perseus' engines spooled down. First down the stairs were a pair of MP bodyguards - Normal Military Police officers, not the SWORD Operators that would accompany a civilian Member of Parliament. Following in short order came Lieutenant General Doctor Arlo Byng, clad in his full dress uniform, with Doctor Peter Stephanopolous in tow.

Our goverment would be pleasured if we colud join to this conference, although we do not have too much technology we would want to learn a bit of the new aircrafts age.

Thank you

About Jordaxia's design...Yes, I still sell them...haven't bothered to type it up and post yet. I'm lazy :P Well, busy, yes, but I prefer 'lazy.'

"Jeez," muttered Walsh under his breath. "For early arrivals, that's sure a lot...they don't pay me enough to do this." Straightening up, he announced, "Welcome, delegates from your ... various respective nations. The conference is to take place in this air force base, and you will be housed in private five star hotels specifically built for this military...so, when you are ready to retire, we will escort you there."

New New Kiwizeland, you're welcome to join in.

OOC: Yeah this is a continuation of Zoogie's rewind about two posts down from here.

"Sir, the plane is ready to demonstrate operation drop grandma." The pilot of the modified B-2 said while pissing his pants laughing.
"Would you PLEASE stop calling it that and just gas those poor Penguisian immigrants and drop them."
"don't you think that's a little much?" The pilot asked.
"Just do it dumbass."

The B-2 Went into the air carrying 400 penguisian immigrants. They were gassed. Just then F-42s popped into the view of the pilot. Suddenly the pilots fighter instincts kicked in. He turned sharp left and up. Trying to create a corkscrew motion to throw off the missiles. The plane made a chug-a-chug-clink sound and the engine stopped. The pilot cursed and it began to fall. With 400 gassed humans in the back, it would go down fast. with about 15,000 feet left until it hit the ground 2 AIM-132s slammed into the fuel tank of the plane creating fireworks for everyone to see. A limb from a rich Penguisian banker flew off and slammed into the building where TZP's top ranking official at the event was snoozing. The bang on the window woke him up and all of a sudden blood was everywhere.

OOC: I shall rewind a few hours to when you first enter my airspace.

IC:

"Sir, we're detecting some heavy air disturbance here in the death zone," announced a radar operative. The 'death zone' was the zone where no foreign aircraft could fly without being shot down in Zoogiedom, or without express approval. "It's got to be an aircraft...and none of ours are up there..."

"Yes...it isn't moving fast, either," noted his superior, looking at the computer's calculations and projections. "It's got to be large. And foreign," he added, as an afterthought.

"We're also getting an infrared read now from our satellite scans and patrols...Christ, it's a B-2!"

--

F-42s flying armed combat air patrol were dispatched from eighty miles away to fly at top speed towards this location. Armed with AA-3s, with multi-designation tracking and a range of 180km, the two aircraft switched on their afterburners and flew towards the co-ordinates.

Nearby, ZaS-42s were also fitted with AIM-132s and scrambled into the air to locate the aircraft visually by flying towards the latest coordinates, and engage it with the agile ASRAAM missiles.

I would like to bring the ban on nuclear powered airplanes to debate and then a vote

OOC: My delegates are coming in a modified old C-47.

IC: The pilot spoke into the intercom, "Gentlemen, we will be landing in about 30 minutes." The co-pilot muttered, "Yeah. We could be already on the ground if we went through that zone." "Thats enough out of you. That zone is called the Death Zone because the Zoogies shoot down any foriegn aircraft there." Suddenly, a group of Zooigie F-42s flew right by the aircraft heading towards the "Death Zone". "I wonder what is going on? Passengers, we will be landing in 24 minutes." said the pilot.

OOC: After our discussion on the regionals, do you mind if a CK-ROC delegate bugs the other delegates?

OOC: Man you guys are fancy!

IC: Very quietly and unnoticed 3 AB-34 Mantas land on one of the airstrips. Three men dressed climb out of the cockpits of the bombers and remove their flight suits to reveal crisp, clean business suits. The men pick up breif cases and walk over to what looks like the man in charge.

"We are the attendees from Anatoray. Who shall we speak with to find our accomidations and seating in the conferrence during our stay?" asks one of the men.

I would like to bring the ban on nuclear powered airplanes to debate and then a vote

Hey, I agree with you on that OOCly...but there is no way you are ever going to get that enforced.

IC:

"This is Alpha One...repeat, alpha one, I can't get a tone on the bomber...please transmit latest coordinates."

The F-42 squadron lead shut off his intercom, loaded the coordinates into his navigational system, and began to vector towards them, scanning the air with radar, infrared, passive radar, and anything possible.

--

"Delta three is airborne," radioed in the pilot of a ZaS-42 as it took off. "Estimated range 46 miles."

The second squadron of ZaS-42 Gecko's was now airborned and hunting for the unknown bomber. Back on the twin runways of the air force base, Epsilon 1 began to taxi on and Epsilon 2's waypoints were being programmed and checked.

Epsilon 3 and 4 were being armed.

--

Meanwhile, Flight Beta - composed of two ASTOVL ZaS-42s - were now streaking towards the targets, getting new coordinate and tracking feeds from a nearby AWACs, satellites, and ground control.

Beta 1 had ascended to fifty thousand feet, with Beta 2 only a few thousand feet below, in combat spread and looking for visual cues on the bomber. "Range is twelve miles," radioed in Beta 2.

--

This is Epsilon One, airborne...

--

"Contact! Repeat, contact!" said the transmission from Alpha Lead. "Bomber is allied aircraft, IFF check tests positive. Radar signature identified, information transmission proceeding. Range 84 miles. Over."


--

"We have visual contact," reported Beta Lead, spotting a black speck amidst the clear blue sky. "We have visual contact, beta squadron is vectoring into position...MARMED."

The ZaS-42's heat and radar both registered the aircraft within ten seconds of the transmission. "Range 7 miles." Evidently, something had happened to the RCS of the plane and made it visible on radar...

"Engaging bandit," said Beta 2, rolling his aircraft and quickly manuevering towards the stealth bomber.

At that time, a transmisison from ground control ordered the flight to stop combat procedures. "Bomber is Lashugese B-2...repeat...allied B-2...escort out of Death Zone...Beta Squadron, you are to escort out of Death Zone."

Both Gecko's switched off master arms, although keeping their aircrafts ARMED and their missiles ready. A single AIM-132 was extending from both their side bays, and was now locked on the B-2.

Using Isles Friendly Aircraft secure radio transmissions, beta flight contacted the Lashugese B-2. "You are to turn around of this high security airspace...turn around immediately."

--Back to the conference...

*F-42 : Kazakhstanian-built, very large and stealthy air superiority fighter primarily used for air defense. These two are from an old F-42 squadron in service since Zoogiedom first acquired F-42s. Zoogiedom has recently acquired production rights and liscenses to the F-42, and will be upgrading it extensively, including for naval use, and renaming it to avoid conflict with the fighter below.

http://www.invisible-defenders.org/images/a12/navy_afx.jpg

ZaS(ZF)-42 : Zoogie Aerospace ZaS-42 (export named ZF-42) to fulfill strike role with very demanding first shot first kill standards; overall replacement for F-16C/D-Z in the Zoogie Air Force and eliminates need for any F-35s or F-32s...also outperforms them by a great factor.

http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/photos/images/aircraft/astovl.jpeg

OOC: After our discussion on the regionals, do you mind if a CK-ROC delegate bugs the other delegates?

What? I thought CK-ROC was already attending?...

Anatoray, I'd roleplay it, but...my creativity is dead right now. Used it all up in the previous post, and there wasn't much there either...so, you will be escorted to an on site five star military hotel until the conference begins and all or most delegates arrive.

OOC: Bugging, as in listening in to other delegates, stealing plans, etc. CK-ROC is not a very...ethical corporation.

Sileetris, on behalf of RelicArms(Relic Regional weapons manufacturer), will send representatives to this meeting. We are an innovative force in the aerial combat market and can bring some very impressive developments to the table, and we hope to take home several lessons as well.

-RelicArms Aeronautics Division
5962 Smithy Avenue, Leetria, Sileetris

The Angry Junkies also wish to participate. Long Live RelicArms in the aerial combat arms manufacturing race. May our enemies perish under our powerful missiles.

Oh yes, of course I would mind.

OOC: I do appreciate being riled on by fans, but I have no clue who you are Angry Junkies......

IC: After parking the dropship and the two Valefors in the large hangar appointed to them, the Sileetris delegates departed for the hotel. A sign was left on the door of the hangar that read: No trespassing, violaters will be shot many times. Royal Army bodyguards wearing black CEBA armor rode black assault cycles on all sides of the limosine. As was customary, the rooms were searched in advance for bugs or bombs(a quick affair thanks to millimeter band radar imaging scopes, which basically allowed the soldiers to see through walls). Once in the hotel, Josef made sure that the presentations were scheduled right, then took off his shoes and relaxed, after sitting in an exo-atmoshperic dropship full of weapons and soldiers for several hours, anyone would be tired.

General Sharif and Major Johnson departed for the hotel after they parked their EA-135A in one of the hangars.

They had seperate rooms, but Abdullah came to Omar's room and Omar opened the briefcase. He grabbed the laptop and set up the laptop's communication link. They waited while it was connecting with on of Al-Sabir's sattelites.

"Do you want some whiskey, General? I found some bottles in the minibar." Omar said. Abdullah shook his head and he said:"You aren't allowed to drink, Major. We're on duty" "Yes Sir" Omar replied. They had communication with the sattelite. Omar typed some commands and they had a connection with Al-Sabir's Minister of Defense, Mohammed El Kadi. "Tell the Minister we arrived and that the conference hasn't started yet." Abdullah said. Omar typed the message, unplugged the communication link and he said:"The Minister says we are allowed to relax a bit until the conference starts, I'm gonna take shower and see if that fancy bussines suit that I got fits me. Abdullah nodded and he left the room.....

Lt. General Byng paused to watch the men from Sileetris disembark. Particular attention was paid to the men in the CEBR suits. He was an aircraft man, so battle suits weren't exactly his field of expertise. Still... He played golf with his Army counterpart once a month, and even what meager observations his technical mind could take from watching the CEBR suits might prove useful to the I-JOCS program.

The Lieutenant General turned on his artificial heel as the motorcycle-bracketed motorcade passed by. Doctor Stephanopolous had made his way by car to the local Dominion embassy, where they would be staying. The General, for his part, was more interested in finding his opposite number from the United City-States of New Empire. Some people from his department had been over there recently, working on the Pallas Athena project, but he had yet to meet anyone from their side of the fence.

The UCSNE crews stayed at the airfield for awhile, tending to the aircraft and their payloads in case a demonstration was in order. After awhile, the sound of a CV-92 Heavy Tiltjet Transport filled the air.

The CV-92 was the size of a C-17, but utilized rotating jet engines on the wings and tail for shorter landings, even vertical if fuel wasn't an issue. The door slammed open, and a group of the NEAF Special Forces troopers appeared, along with a series of jeeps, cars, and trucks. The NEAF Special Forces were the security guards of the Air Force, but were also pathfinders and combat engineers. They wore ORC Carbon-Boron Weave and Cermaic combat armor, and blue berets. Most were just assigned as guards for the aircraft, the F-109D alone had enough technology to make the F-22 look like a paper airplane. The group of pilots and officers piled in to the armored vans as they drove off towards the hotels. The guards and mechanics would stay at the airfield, and sleep in bunks on the CV-92.

Most of them settled in at their rooms, choosing to rest. O'Connor sat on the hotel bed, flipping through a copy of New Empire Airpower, an Aerospace Force run magazine. An article on Pallas Athena and the 'Stealth Arms Race', the Imitoran 'Raven', and an article on the 'Furball from Hell', where 13 Bombers and a large number of Specter interceptors destroyed huge amounts of older Markovian AAD centers and fighters. Major Hartman was watching the news, and Sennter was on his laptop. But Lieutenant Einsman had opted to stay at the airfield as she walked around, looking at every aircraft and new arrival, but not getting too close. As an AWR officer, she was interested in every aircraft here, it might be their only chance to get a good look at what could be tomorrow's friend or foe in the air.

General Byng ended up wandering about the airfield for a time, sneaking a peak at the assorted aircraft that seemed to be arriving constantly. With the mercenary nature of most of the aircraft manufacturers - The Dominion included, admittedly - Most of these aircraft were liable to turn up in the most unexpected places. Better to get to know them here, on the ground. From time to time, he caught sight of the New Empire officer, tossing her a nod as he made his rounds.

"Sir," A young man said to to the sadistic leader of Lashuga, "The B-2 was shot down in the Death Zone."

"Ok," The leader responded,"This time ask if we can land on one of the airstrips. And don't fly over in a B-2 flyover in a Learjet 45 and send Robson, Kenlev, and Troute to the conference."

"Yes, sir."

The leader walked over to the window and as soon as he heard the door shut sat down at his computer and typed in, The Zoogie People. He was wodnering how he could do something to this. Suddenly a Secret Zoogie member ran into the office and killed the leader. Everyone in the office then gave him hugs and proclaimed his excellence. No one really liked that crank pot anyways.

Einsman nodded in return, and quickly went through her knowledge of national insignia... Kotterdam. A general, too. She did what her instinct told her, and saluted.

Wearing only a star and leaf on his epaulettes, Byng bore the uniform of a Lieutenant General only - Though the Dominion officers tended to pronounce it Leftenant. Snapping off a salute in return, Byng made his way over to the New Empire officer. "Good day, Leftenant." the General smiled. "I'm not exactly the official welcoming committee, but welcome to Zoogies AFB. Collecting a little HUMINT, are we?"

"Well, they can't hold a christmas party this big and not expect anybody to shake the boxes. It's kind of odd seeing all these different aircraft all in the same place, especially since they represent the cutting edge."

She looked over to the EB-1C, as a large cruise missile like object was being inspected. The forward swept wings of the weapon sat next to a fuselage that held a series of elongated frisbee like devices in it's frame. Some of the weapons that were being displayed here were already serving in Markov... It was kind of eerie that some displays they had prepared were combat footage taken weeks ago over the skies of a war zone.

Brown Meteor will soon be working on building a new air force, and would wish to send a delegate to this conference to gather ideas and perhaps put in some purchase orders with other countries.
-Karl von Hastok, President of the Armed Republic of Brown Meteor

As Dr. Amulek patiently waits for the conference to start, an attack-variant NVTOL (shearly for show-off reasons) lands at the conference center and 4 more RMT Engineering Delegates step out and meet up with the Dr.

General Silverman strolled into the bright sun enjoying his vacation in Zoogiedom. Although he technically was supposed to be Anarresa's official delegate for the show, the whole trip seemed like a getaway. Rather than flying over mostly in cramped military aircraft, he had taken the administrative yacht and spent several hours tanning on the deck en route to Zoogiedom. He glanced around at the numerous aircraft, even the appearance made his old F-15 look like a P-40. Zoogie sure could put on an air show. Though what he really wanted to see was how they maneuvered, most of the aircraft looked as if they could fly circles around a Su-37. He turned towards the Raysian aircraft, flight crews were running around frantically to fuel and prepare the aircraft for takeoff. He chuckled, it seemed the Raysians were all to anxious show off their toys. The general took one more look around, it would be interesting to see what surprises were in store.

I am setting this to start in two days so the delegates that remain can arrive, and because I will have more time then...I'm a bit busy right now.

2 days. For definite? (I don't actually usually live in the same house as the connection, so I need to make plans to go there.)

Richard Branson looks around for any refreshment venues. It was quite hot in the sun, and he didn't feel like swimming anymore. His labourers were currently moving a large crate containing the Taiwanese IDF-2 out from a second cargo plane that had landed moments ago. The Taiwanese pilot and his family were also due to arrive any moment.

OOC: New Empire, Is this the same pilot who spotted the IDF-2while in trials?

"Well, they can't hold a christmas party this big and not expect anybody to shake the boxes. It's kind of odd seeing all these different aircraft all in the same place, especially since they represent the cutting edge."

"I'll tell you what's odd, Leftenant. It's not so much seeing all these aircraft in one place... It's that all these aircraft are in one place and nobody's shooting at one another." he said, only half-joking. Looking around slowly, he shook his head. "I think between the lot of us, you can probably find at least one of our products in almost every major conflict on this blasted rock." Shaking his head, he chuckled. Tossing a glance over at the cruise missile-like object, he tilted his head. "Huh... Now I don't suppose you could tell me what that is, could you, Leftenant? Satisfy an old man's curiosity?"

OOC:Taiwan, nope. We just have a large percentage of Irish in my country, that's all.
IC:
Einsman looked over, the little frisbee like aircraft were being unfolded, their half oval wings locking into flight position. A lift fan sat in the center, and a push prop was behind it.

"That's the Wolverine Cruise missile. It's designed to be able to carry a variety of payloads, including smaller missiles. It's manuverable, and with it's onboard ECM and Decoy systems, it can outwit a lot of missile defenses. Those little buggers are part of the new concept for UCAVs. We noticed in the Iraq war that most helicopters, even the Apache, were vulnerable to gunfire and RPGs because of their low armor and speed compared to fixed wing CAS aircraft. Part of this solution was to adopt our Canard rotor wing aircraft, which means they can function like helicopters and fixed wing craft. The other side of the coin was to create more disposable unmanned craft, like those. They can carry around a hundred pounds of weapons and equipment, and hit maybe 200 miles per hour in good conditions. They can be equipped with cluster bomblets, the top attack AT munitions from the American WAM Hornet Mine, sensors, or even medical supplies and munitions for resupply ops. They run off hydrogen fuel cells, and have a fairly good range. The idea is that they can be rapidly deployed, faster than a Warthog or our Wasp CRW craft, through the Wolverine Cruise missile."

OOC: too late to join?

AA would like to join, as we pride ourselves in our airforce, the AAF
(Astratesite AirForce).

United Elias (and others) it's not too late at all...just keep it modern tech. Jordaxia, not for definite per se, but I plan to open it in two days...if for some reason I am unable to..well...hopefully that won't happen.

Not quite sure how I want to open this :P

OOC: zoogie i hope this isn't too intrusive...

Above the din of general arrivals a low rumbling can be heard, slowly it biulds in power and volume, eventually glasses and windows begin to shake as the roar biulds to a cresendo.

Then over the roof's or nearby biuldings the large shape of a Crookfur Super Vulcan painted in the bright red tartan colors of the wind dancers (crookfur display team, some observant visitors might notice that "highlander" by lost horizon was playing in the back ground, it's now changed to "bomber" by motorhead...) roaring in low the bomber begins to pull a full aerobatic display routine with an agility that is simply awe inspiring for such a large aircraft.

As the vulcan departs to land a single slightly odd looking B-52 makes a landing, observers will not that it looks almsot identical to the B-52H except it only has 4 engines and one of the wing mounted fuel tanks has been removed and repalced with a rather odd looking bit of kit.
(this ladies and gentlemen is the RL newly approved B-52H upgrade, the new engines are Rolls-Royce RB-211s and the fuel pod repalcment is a 9m antenna for an ECM/jammer system. Actually the engine choice isn't confirmed yet IRL but the RB221 has been on the cards since 96).

OOC: Perhaps bringing out the food/entertainment, or opening speech?

Branson walked over to the Wolverine, inspecting the sleek fuselage. He turns to Einsman and greets him.

"So, is this one of your company's products?"

OOC: Good idea...and no, not too intrusive at all.

IC:

As Air Force staff seargeant Larry Collins was sipping his coffee inside the tower control room, leaving the air traffic controllers to the others, he was rudely interrupted by a tremendous earthquake...or so he thought.

"What the hell?"

The coffee was spilling all over the table. He set it down, and ran to the window to look on as Crookfur put on his display. As the bomber gracefully flew through the air, he said to nobody in particular, "Please don't tell me that is a Vulcan doing those things..."

OOC - 2 : Sorry, haven't been able to detailed reply to the other RPed arrivals...

Abdullah and Omar left their hotel rooms. They both wore jeans, ASAF T-shirts and dark sunglasses. They took a taxi back to the airfield. Omar said:"I see some strange planes. Something what looks like a B-52, but it's has four engines and the wing mounted fuel tanks have been replaced by something odd." "Good," Abdullah replied, "We need a new long-range bomber." The taxi stopped and they stepped out.....

Gail Roskilde and Aston DeBrett watched the mighty Crookfur Vulcan.

After a moment, Roskilde grabbed DeBrett's arm and began punching it lightly. They both appeared to be fascinated. DeBrett eventually noticed the punching.
"Quit it" he said absently, making brushing motions with his free hand "watching the Vulcan..."
"Wanna fly it" drooled Roskilde happily "Wanna fly it now."

Slowly, they became aware that they were in public. They blinked, straightened their black Air Force dress uniforms and went back to looking around.
"That never happened" said DeBrett, looking intently at the B-52.
"Never" agreed Roskilde.
"Are you going to try and buy one?" she asked a moment later.
DeBrett thought carefully.
"Probably only one, so we can take a closer look. It rather depends whether the Boss wants one."
"You know, we can probably convince Warspite to buy his Uncle one."
DeBrett grinned.
"Meaning you'd get to fly it home, of course"
"Naturally!"
They moved on.

A largely unnoticed F/A-302 quietly lands on one of the airstrips. After it rolls into one of the hangars, out jumps two men in flight suits. They remove their flight suits to reveal that one is a major general and the other is a colonel in the Northrop-Grumman Air Force. As they approach the man in charge, they are awestruck at all the different kinds of aircraft on the base. I have got to get myself one of those, the general thought as he looked at the two Relic Edition Valefor 29a fighters.
"Good afternoon," he said as he shook the man's hand, "we're the delegates from Northrop-Grumman. Where are we to go until the conference starts?"

The government of Nuevo Kowloon asks for permission to send observers to the proceedings (we're a little late, sorry...)

General Byng was about to comment on the New Empire weapon when the roar of the Vulcan's engines pulled his attention away. Taking a few steps to get a better view, he whistled softly. "Well, I'll be damned..." he murmured, half to himself. "It's been a few years since I've seen one of those..."

OOC:
The B-52 upgrade is merely a tech demonstrator at the moment but if there is significant interest it may progress futher.
The original Vulcan bomber was capble of some fantastic manouvers for a bomber, our super vulcan just is slightly better, thanks to better engines, a strengthened airframe, better fly by light controls and improved control surfaces (there is talk of using thrust vectoring engines...).
details on the combat version can be found here (http://www.meatballs.terminator.org.uk/crookfur/aircraft.html#vulcan)
if you are still interested TG or visit my sales thread (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48258)

IC:
After the interest generated by the vulcan display the conference delagation, headed by Air Marshal Richard Davison, Trade and industry minister Alison Hendry and James Marshal head of the Crookfur Arms aircraft sales department, felt rather proud as they moved into the reception hall (or what ever), greating old contacts from previous shows and conferences.

The lieutenant looked up, the Crookfur Super Vulcan had been subject of a report on the modernization of older weapons, similar to the UCSNE EB-1C and EB-52. But it was certainly more impressive in the air than on paper.

The WCM and the "Bumblebee" UAVs were set up in a display around the EB-1C, along with samples of the "Coffin Nail" and "Pheonix Slayer" SCRAMjet AAMs. Various other munitions were set up around the aircraft, a sampling showing the EB-1C for what it was: A flying battleship, of sorts, designed to take out any type of target imaginable. After the work was done, the crews relaxed, watching the aircraft that flew in and the ones already on the ground.

OOC: Nuevo Kowloon, Northrop Grumman...and the rest of you, I am assuming that you have come to the opening of the conference...just so I can start it ;)

IC:

Air Force chief of staff general Aidan Connley greeted the respective delegates as they entered the military hotel's reception room. A lot of food from various nationalities was prepared and being served by the officers and enlisted soldiers on the base. Behind the podium was the flag of Zoogiedom, the flag of the Air Force, and the flag of the United Nations.

The walls were decorated with images of aircraft: Raysian RF-11Cs (fifty of which we had acquired used a long time ago; all have since met the end of their useful service lives and been retired), Kazakhstanian A-15s, United Elias cargoes (I forgot the names), and a good number of other international and domestic aircraft.

Connley waited for the delegates to be seated before proceeding. "Welcome," he said into the microphone at the podium. "Welcome to the most highley anticipated international air conference in decades...in the weeks to come, some of the world's greatest aircraft and aircraft designers will be housed all in this one base. This is truly a great moment in aviation history.

"We are here to discuss the future of aviation technology. For many years, aerial superiority and warfare has played a key role in modern warfare, and it will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

"Assembled here today are some of the world's greatest air powers...and in the spirit of renewing and furthering innovation in aircraft and aircraft technology, we would like to hereby open these air conferences with this reception ceremony.

"Have fun, enjoy your food, share your concepts and technologies, and please don't blow each other up."

(Sorry...not good at writing speeches :P)

--

Several days earlier


The two ZaS-42 Geckoes flew alongside the Lashugese B-2, which was not turning back. It was giving it its last chance - this was a clear sign of hostility on the part of Lashuga.

"You less than twenty miles from the Zoogie mainland," radioed the pilot of Beta Lead. "You have thirty seconds to turn back."

Both pilots activated active arms immediately, turned down their engines slightly, and extended their side bays to allow more mobility for the AIM-132s to 'sniff' for the bomber's emissions.

"Flight control, bogey is enroaching on Zoogiedom seas and property...requesting permission to fire."

"Permission granted, Beta group...fire at will."

"I'm giving your your last chance," said Beta lead. "Turn back, now."

No response from the B-2, which kept going forward. Strange gas emissions were now coming from it.

"Very well," the pilot said, and he and his wingman extended their flaps and lowered their engines another notch. Manually adjusting thrust vectoring, in only a few seconds they transfored from flying tandem to the bomber to lagging behind it.

"Fire at will," ordered the lead pilot, and released the AIM-132 missile that had been aiming at the B-2 the entire time. A bright streak of light flashed through the sky as the first AIM-132 was fired by the Zoogie Air Force in combat operations (having converted from the AIM-9X several years prior). It was also the first missile to be fired in combat operations by the Gecko program.

Two AIM-132s quickly painted a trail in the sky towards the bomber, and exploded into its engines...the pilots extended their other side bays.

--

In Zoogies Air Force Base, a gigantic aircraft was now making its landing approach. The colossal C-71 touched down on the runway and pulled to a halt in a reasonably short distance, thanks to the testing of thrust vectoring engines on the ends.

Its supplies were unloaded, including troops and materials for extra security, and a single RAH-66 Commanche helicopter.

The armored vans that had brought the UCSNE delegates to their hotels were now rolling towards the airbase, Major Hartman, Sennter, and Captain O'Connor all inside. They disembarked near the EB-1C as the Major rechecked the Datapulse transmission on his Tablet PC.

He walked out from behind the bomber and it's array of weapons, and headed towards the Sileetris delegates.

A single Brown Meteor delegate arrives in one of the few transport copters left in their military and even it was slated to be scrapped like the rest once the new Yarui cargo planes arrived. The old planes modestly landed and their delegate hesistantly stepped out from the aircraft.
"Wow," he thought to himself," look at all these advanced aircraft. At least von Hastok is smart enough to pile some money away so someday we can have planes like these. I guess this is the first step in building the modern Brown Meteor airforce. And to think that I'm the delegate they sent!"
His name was Kaptain Linsten and he was an technical officer in the reformed air force. He was sent with a laptop to find out all he could about building modern aircraft and air forces, new designs in tactics and strategy and to write a report that would form the basis of the fledgling Armed Republic's air force. He was confident in himself, yet nervous in the prescence of such renowned countries and people. he cautiously approached the other delegates and said,"Greetings from the Armed Republic of Brown Meteor and myself. Can any of you tell me how long the conference will be?"

However long it lasts OOCly, however long it will be :P

OOC: New Empire, we need to decide whether we are at the hotel following the opening speech or out at the airfields already.....

IC: Josef eyed the approaching New Empire delegates briefly, and straightened his tie in an effort to suppress a bout of maniacal laughter. He loved his job because the company he represented had a knack for totally shocking the scientific community, and he got to see the looks on peoples faces just when the news was broken to them. The security team standing around him had already glanced over the approaching delegates with millimeter band radar, and confirmed via the radio implanted behind his ear that they were clean. Josef strode up to them and shook their hands, saying; "I really feel as though I owe you all an apology in advance for the tech we'll be unveiling here, it will put a lot of your best scientists out of work...or into depression." He beamed a toothy smile...

Col. Mike Richten finished tightening the last bolt on the panel in front of him, dropped his wrench, and let himself fall from a squat to sitting with a grunt. Wiping the sweat from his grease splotched forehead with a handkerchief, he yawned and checked his watch. 12:15 in the afternoon. 19 straight hours his crew had been working on this old bird. "Well," he thought, "It's not really fair to call it old any more, we've replaced at least 90% of her."

Yes, it really wasn't fair to even call the plane a B-52 any more-- at first glance from the outside you couldn't tell what in the hell the plane was. The latest attempt by GMI to resurrect old battle systems and modify them for modern use, the B-52I Old Dog shared little in common with the plane it once was. The BUFF's big pudgy nose was gone, replaced by a sleek and highly streamlining SST style nose. The surface of the craft was now highly polished, and the reflection of light off of it would probably be blinding-- that is, if the surface of the Old Dog pretended that light even affected it. Coating every square inch of the exterior of the plane was pitch black anti-searchlight paint. The paints reactance level was so little, it seemed to create a void in the air whenever light was cast on it. Though, that had been a bad, but humorous thing when they first landed for the conference; the Zoogian flight controllers believed a phantom plane was landing when the Old Dog and her crew had touched down a little after 3 AM a few days before. The biggest surprise wasn't obvious until up close-- the modified B-52 didn't carry bombs on its external pylons; it carried air to air missiles. And even with all this, still greater things lay inside the Old Dog itself, giving the crew and technicians great hopes for marketing this aircraft and its technology to the other nations attending the conference.

Reaching over his head to stretch and yawning again, Richten leaned back and looked down the corridor to see his team of young technicians still hard at work in installing the latest addition to the Old Dog. They'd been working their asses off since they got here, and showed no signs of letting up. "Whoever said today's youth was useless and unmotivated needs to be shot," Richten muttered under his breath, as he slowly rose to his feet, using a chair to pull himself up. "All right! Everybody take a one hour break, and report back here no later than 1:30! We've still got some circuits to install and tests to conduct before we can finally be done with this beast." A small cheer carried along the corridor to him from the back of the plane, and he smirked.

After making a circuit of the plane to inspect everyone's progress, Richten returned to the cockpit and sat down in the co-pilot's chair. He hadn't slept in nearly two days, and now seemed like a damned good time to catch some shut eye. Quickly checking the work the had done on the instrument panel earlier, he leaned back and closed his eyes. "I almost feel sorry for those guys that came here hoping to show case the latest in radar," Richten thought, "Almost." And with that, he drifted away into the blissful release of sleep, a contented smile on his face.

OOC: Nuevo Kowloon, Northrop Grumman...and the rest of you, I am assuming that you have come to the opening of the conference...just so I can start it ;)
works for me.



IC:

Air Force chief of staff general Aidan Connley greeted the respective delegates as they entered the military hotel's reception room. A lot of food from various nationalities was prepared and being served by the officers and enlisted soldiers on the base. Behind the podium was the flag of Zoogiedom, the flag of the Air Force, and the flag of the United Nations.

The walls were decorated with images of aircraft: Raysian RF-11Cs (fifty of which we had acquired used a long time ago; all have since met the end of their useful service lives and been retired), Kazakhstanian A-15s, United Elias cargoes (I forgot the names), and a good number of other international and domestic aircraft.

Connley waited for the delegates to be seated before proceeding. "Welcome," he said into the microphone at the podium. "Welcome to the most highley anticipated international air conference in decades...in the weeks to come, some of the world's greatest aircraft and aircraft designers will be housed all in this one base. This is truly a great moment in aviation history.

"We are here to discuss the future of aviation technology. For many years, aerial superiority and warfare has played a key role in modern warfare, and it will continue to do so for the forseeable future.

"Assembled here today are some of the world's greatest air powers...and in the spirit of renewing and furthering innovation in aircraft and aircraft technology, we would like to hereby open these air conferences with this reception ceremony.

"Have fun, enjoy your food, share your concepts and technologies, and please don't blow each other up."

(Sorry...not good at writing speeches :P)

--


Colonel Marilee Cu'ong (Ph.D) of the Nuevo Kowloon Aerospace Research Department and Commodore Li Trung (NK Naval Aviation Branch) listened to Connelly's opening speech politely.

"Good speech..." Trung muttered. Marilee shrugged, "We will see... I notice a lot of hardware dedicated to your end of the business, Commodore, but damn little in the way of scientific research on the programme." The Navy man shrugged, "Doctor, you're also a Colonel." he quipped.
She tossed her head, "I'm a Colonel, Commodore, because it's the best way to get funding for fundamental research."
He laughed softly, "Why don't you go and mingle, I'm sure there are other eggheads here for you to jabber with."
She snorted, and stalked away, in the direction of the refreshments, leaving the Military man to survey the room.

Hartman smiled as he approached, silently cursing command for having him sent to such people.

"You know, the Athena testbed computers devised a way to cancel your Gridded Doppler in a few seconds. The instant you announce it, we'll have a computer team working on the solution.
"Now, because of that, I think this is going to be a waste of time. However, AWR wants me to 'negotiate' a deal with you. Now, we've been in a sort of arms race... You develop some newfangled radar, and we develop some newfangled programming for Athena. Now, maybe Athena won't work for Hypergeometric, Self-Cancelling Doppler Effect, Atmospheric Deflection, Gridded Radar. Yes, that's right. We already know what it is. But, I'm having doubts it's even worth our time developing a new variant. We've got shelves full of passive radar cancellation systems. Of course, some higher up wants to strike this deal: You make a radar, we figure out how to kill it, and we exchange technologies.
"Now I know you most likely won't do it, because you don't believe we can find a way around it. Maybe we can't. This is just further proof for the inevitable. Sooner or later, when all sensors get this good, anything that crests the horizon will die. Simple as that. Now if we can't get a cancellation system, we have 300 billion in UCSNE currency on call. Either we pay you, trade, or we'll rip you off. Your choice."

The Federation delegation tends to keep a fairly low-profile at the conference, content with wandering around the various booths and taking pictures of things that interest them.

The head of the delegation, General Addison, and his staff stay with the sleek XB-7 technology demonstrator bomber. They have unclassified brochures about the XB-7's wing morphing technology, experimental quantum nucleonic reactor, and sales options for the B-7E bomber and B-7vB commercial launch system. Models of the Javelin rocket and the B-7vB carrier figure prominently on the desk.

IC: The Celtayoshi delegation pondered around many of the areas, picking serveral extremly well presented brochures before showings its plan.
The Celtayoshi delegation had brought with it not aircraft, but a package which would be shown to anyone who wished. They unveiled there latest production centre. "The purpose of our delgeation," spoke one senior delegate, "is to offer our services as a aircraft constructor to those companies with large order books. We can provided efficient, reliable, presice modern engineering at a extremly competitive price. We can provide parts quickly to meet demand, and secure national politics means our customers will not be left out in the cold by civil unrest."
Brochures were distrubuted amongst the delegates for future viewing.
Inside these delegations were informed that we were not unopen to co-operation on the advancement of technology, with modern facilites for carrying out research, as well as contact information.

OOC, thanks for the invite, and i apologise for any spelling mistakes.

There was a lot of nerves at the Jordaxian encampment. The delegates were worried at how the JXN-87 would be recieved, after all, it was not particularly fast, and not excessively powerful. Couple that with the fact that it needed water to take off, or be dropped from a plane at high speeds, and it seemed like very "niche" technology. They were sure that given a chance, however, it would prove itself.

Commodore Trung walked the aisles of the presentation room, examining each of the systems and packages, and collecting brochures at each exhibit.
Most of the offerings were on the expensive end-and some of them made him desperately wish the National Budget was in better shape.


Dr./Colonel Cu'ong was listening politely to a sales pitch when he caught up with her. "Well?" he asked, drawing her away from the small grouping of people. "Well... I see some things we need to work on, half a dozen theoretically-stable systems that cost too much for what they do, and a lot of your kind of people, like I told you earlier... the Nuclear-powered airplane was particularly amusing, though if it performs as advertised, it might be something to look into as an enhancement to our air-launched space programme... I thought you would be drooling over the Stealth displays." she quipped.
He shook his head, "Someone from New Empire was pitching a pretty strange threat when I walked by, something about a computer of theirs working out a model to cancel pulse-doppler radar."
Marilee shrugged, "Not that hard to do, I suppose-mathematically if you work out the exact resonance frequency of the emitter, and you know the rate of processing, you can broadcast a counter-signal that will cover your location, or, if you're really worried and don't have all the information, you could just sheath the craft in an ionization field-remember the Boundary-Layer experiments we conducted?"
He nodded, "Yeah, you gave two of my pilots cancer."
she shrugged, "Your department decided my shielding numbers weren't optimistic enough." she reminded him, adding, "Take it up with Admiral Li."
His face darkened, "The admiral is dead." he reminded her.
She shrugged, "See? Now, the Scramjet technology work over there looks like it has some promise..."

[UCSNE Presentations]
OOC:Getting them out, because come 4 PM I'll be driving to DC.
IC:
F-109D Super Tempest
(Aircraft on display)
The F-109D is the next generation in combat aircraft technology. With an array of advanced systems, the F-109D is a deadly combatant at both dogfighting and BVR engagement.
Situational Awareness
The F-109D features highly advanced sensor systems to ensure that it always can see it's enemy. LIDAR pods are mounted in the nose, wingtips, back, and under and over the fuselage to ensure full coverage of the airspace around the aircraft in a 200 mile radius. It also has forward, down, and rear looking 450-CPS Frequency Cycling radar, good for 250 miles. An advanced 190 Mile range EMS* sensor is also present on the aircraft, along with thermal, IR, X-Ray pulse systems. A laser satellite uplink is also provided.
True Supermanuverability
Instead of conventional flaps and airelons, the microhydraulic processors in the canards, forward swept wings, and tail fins can actually twist around, allowing the aircraft to have full control over it's lift, turn direction, and more in conjunction with it's 3D thrust vectoring. The F-109D can fly nearly sideways, while still keeping it's nose on target (But not fixed in the same direction). The manuver is best used for evading the gunsights of another aircraft, sliding in a shallow U-shape as you track the nose on them, so the thrust vectoring can function. At lower speeds, the F-109 can spin around 360 degrees on it's axis, or even somersault forward and down to meet a pursuing enemy and engage it. The F-109D uses a 5-Layered system of high performance fly-by wire computers to give the pilot this grade of control. It can use it's mission adaptable wings and thrusters to take off at a 10 degree angle.
Advanced Combat Systems
The F-109D can be fitted with any following stealth system-
Athena Mk I (Common Export Version)
Athena- The earliest and one of the biggest technologies ever developed by the USNE.
The F-117, the B-2, the F-22. All stealth. All able to outwit radar systems.
But these aircraft were not agile, not as heavy hitting. Not as cheap as the average aircraft. Then there came Athena, in the F-98. An agile fighter, well armed, fast, affordable, and stealth. But how could it reach that performance? Athena. The radar waves are detected by Athena, and its raw data is put through a super conductive, liquid cooled computer. Then, the computer supervises and orders the release of out of sinc waves from tiny antennas under the planes surface. This effctively eliminates the radar signal, as in no return.
What about the scatter effects? Radar A transmits it, radar B receives it?
The computer knows the characteristics of the plane it is 'protecting'. It therefore emits the proper amount of energy in the right directions.
Athena Mk II (Allied Export Version)
Athena Mk II is relatively similar to the common version, but cycles at a much faster rate (Adjustable between 250-600)
Athena Mk III (New Empire Only Version)
All the features of Athena Mk II and Mk I, but the signature emission can be controllable. The Athena Mk III can imitate the signature of clouds, birds, other aircraft, baloons, even terrain at low altitudes. This upgrade involves the Chameleon programs installed in the Athena Computer "Brain". The aircraft is now equipped with Pallas Athena. (See below)
The F-109D also can mount a new weapon, a 250KW HELLADS pod that can destroy aircraft up to 200 miles away. HELLADS was based off a research program by the American DARPA to create a high-energy Laser that could be carried by aircraft. The F-109D has a total of 16 weapons pylons, and a 20mm HYVELOC gatling gun.

Bare Stats-
Manufacturer-Berliston Aerospace
Crew-1
Propulsion-Dual BEPT-2080 PDE/Turbofan Engines
Thrust Vectoring, Afterburners, Supercruise rated at Mach 2, max speed at high altitude Mach 3+, VSTOL capable
Max Ceiling-Classified (Over 60,000 Feet)
Armarment-1x 20mm HYVELOC gatling, 16 weapons pylons (8 Fuselage, 6 Wing, 2 Wingtip), 1 HELLADS station
Systems-Pallas Athena, MAW, Photocell Visual distortion, heat masking, Wetball, Satellite uplink, multiple LIDAR and RADAR pods.
Cost-$80 Million per aircraft
Variants-F-109DN (Naval) F-109DE (Strike, proposed) EF-109D (Electronics Warfare/Strike)
*EMS- Electro Magnetic Spectrum- a wide range of emissions generated by 'modern' fighting vehicles and even power armor equipped infantry. The EMS spectrum was scanned for 'artificial' signals that did not occur normally as background radiation from the sun, from the Earth's magnetic poles, etc. Anything out of the ordinary (i.e. not occurring naturally in nature) could be tagged as a target. Target emissions and documentation was included in every database onboard a vehicle. Discrepancies were easily identified, and then correlated based on known information on a unit by unit basis.

EB-1C "Vampire"
(Aircraft on Display)
The EB-1C Vampire. Based on the philosophy of the EB-52 Megafortress, the EB-1C is a quick response air battle command aircraft, that sports advanced sensors and computer systems. The EB-1C can fly with only a crew of 2, through the use of a "vitrual crew" that stays at the airfield and controls and communicates via datalink. These men are responsible for managing any C3 and UCAV tasks. For sensors, the EB-1C mounts Gridded Pulse Doppler, LIDAR, IR, X-Ray pulse, EMS, and enhanced optics. The primary task of the EB-1C is to coordinate air warfare, and provide a springboard for virtual crew operating the U/MF-5 StealthHawk Attack UCAV or U/MF-6 AirHawk Fighter UCAV. The "Virtual Crew" remain at base, or at another C3 post, and communicate and control any UCAVs the EB-1C may be carrying. The EB-1C, through the use of advanced techniques and systems, can actually deploy and retrieve UCAVs through it's 3 bomb bays with the aid of computer piloting. These UCAVs can be refueled and rearmed in the bays, and then sent off for another mission. Another unique aspect of the EB-1C is the "Smart Skin", thousands of microhydraulics under the skin on the fuselage that can adjust the fuselage slightly to create more lift, along with STOL engines, which allows the EB-1C to take off with it's wings swept back.
Statistics-
Primary Function: Long-range, Electronic Warfare, UCAV and Strike Aircraft
Builder: Rockwell/Berliston Aerospace
Power Plant: Four BEPT-8923 Afterburning Turbojets/PDE hybrids
Length: 156 feet
Wingspan: 137 feet (41.8 meters) extended forward, 79 feet (24.1 meters) swept aft
Height: 34 feet (10.4 meters)
Weight: Empty, approximately 190,000 pounds (86,183 kilograms)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 477,000 pounds (214,650 kilograms)
Speed: Mach 2 at high altitudes
Rotate and Takeoff Speeds: 210 Gross - 119 Rotate kts / 134 kts Takeoff
390 Gross - 168 kts Rotate / 183 kts Takeoff
Landing Speeds: 210 Gross - 145 kts
380 Gross - 195 kts
Range: Intercontinental, unrefueled
Ceiling: Over 80,000 feet
Crew: 2 Aircraft Commander and Pilot, room for 2 others onboard. All other crew members, whatever the mission, are linked from C3 center.
Armarment-
CTHEL-40 400kw Anti-air HELLADS in forward ventral mount.
Up to 8 Missiles in modified wing bays.
Bombload-
(Using US weapons so I won't confuse everyone)
CONVENTIONAL
84 Mk 62 or
84 MK82 or
30 CBU 87 or
30 CBU 89 or
30 CBU 97 or
12 Mk 65 or
PRECISION
30 WCMD or
24 JDAM or
12 GBU-27 or
12 AGM-154 JSOW or
12 TSSAM
The EB-1C also has room for up to 8 Coffin Nail MRAEMs in special bays to the sides of the bombays. More can be mounted in the standard bays.
UCAVs-
Up to 12 light UCAVs mounted in bomb bays, use electromagnets and computer guidance for safe retrieval.
Defensive Systems-
Mk 77 Electronic Warfare Suite
Mk52 Anti-missile Suite
Pallas Athena Athena Stealth System
Price-$350 Million per plane

UCSNE Munitions
AIM-108 Coffin Nail MRAEM
freewebs.com/new_empire/aim1.jpg (copy and paste into browser)
The AIM-108 Medium Range Air Engagement Missile, or MREAM, is a new weapon similar in purpose to the American AMRAAM. It's thrust vectoring allows it to manuver very well, and a large amount of crosschecking sensors allow it to see through many decoys.
Length 215 inches
Launch Weight 335 pounds
Diameter 10.5 inches
Wingspan 31.05 inches
Range 50 miles
Speed Mach 5.3; The missile kicks off with a conventional rocket, and then switches to a SCRAMjet. All rocket versions are availible for 100,000 less, but can only hit Mach 3.2
Guidance System Active radar terminal/inertial midcourse, IR, LIDAR. Can use datalink to communicate with launcher or other allied aircraft to guide it in.
Warhead Blast fragmentation, Kinetic Penentrator (SCRAMjet version only)
Unit Cost $579,000

AIM-95D "Pheonix Slayer" ERAIM
freewebs.com/new_empire/aim2.jpg (Copy and paste into browser)
The AIM-95 was originally known as the "Raven's Crow" until the Markov-New Empire War, where pilots scored unusually high air to air ratios against Markovian aircraft, simply scoring kills because the Markovians couldn't get in range. The AIM-95C (The variant during the war) was often called the "Sky Sniper" until a more popular name emerged, one mocking the national animal of Markov. The AIM-95 is extremely accurate and long ranged, and makes a perfect replacement for the AIM-54. It also utilizes the AIM-108's Thrust Vectoring and multi-guidance
Length 14 feet
Diameter 15 inches (38.1 cm)
Wing Span 3 feet (.9 meters)
Launch Weight 1200 pounds
Range 150 miles
Speed Mach 7.3; The missile kicks off with a conventional rocket, and then switches to a SCRAMjet. All rocket versions are availible for 100,000 less, but can only hit Mach 5
Guidance System Active radar terminal/inertial midcourse, IR, LIDAR. Can use datalink to communicate with launcher or other allied aircraft to guide it in.
Warhead Blast fragmentation, Kinetic Penentrator (SCRAMjet version only)
Unit Cost $715,000

These missiles can be seen with the F-109D or EB-1C display.

Pallas Athena
(Equipped on EB-1C and F-109D)

The first joint venture between the United City-States of New Empire and the Dominion of Kotterdam, the development of the Pallas Athena TSCS was a direct response to the development of radar systems designed to defeat Athena's earlier variants. Functioning on the principle of active radar cancelling, Athena was an effective active stealth system designed to allow aircraft to escape radar detection while maintaining an aerodynamically-sound architecture.

Athena was developed into three variants dubbed, apropriately enough, Athena Marks I through III. Each one added a new layer of functionality, from improved cycling rates to the ability to alter the radar return to imitate other objects - A flock of birds, or another aircraft, for instance. The Dominion, for its part, had a similar system in development. The Michael Tactical Sensor Countermeasure System was first deployed on the F-34A Perseus fighter, and included the ability to project false returns anywhere within five miles of the aircraft.

Both these systems were rendered vulnerable by a new form of radar pioneered by Sileetris. Designed specifically to defeat Active Radar Canceling sets that had progressed to the point where they return a signature of empty air rather than simply a blank space, it used that very capability against them. Immediately, the Dominion and the UCSNE met to discuss this threat. Together, they were able to design a software update that would allow Athena MkII systems and up to identify and counter such radars by producing the correct return for empty air rather than the tell-tale ARC-response.

Rather than stopping there, however, the two nations took it one step further, producing a fourth Mark of Athena Stealth System, dubbed Pallas Athena. An active radar canceling system, Pallas Athena is based around a superconducting "Cold Frame" computer of Dominion manufacture. Using primarily USCNE software, Pallas Athena cycles 600-times per second, responding to inbound radar signals with the appropriate return for the atmospheric conditions in which the aircraft is currently operating.

Pallas Athena, however, combines the RCS-modifying function of Athena MkIII, allowing it to appear to be other aircraft, or atmospheric phenomena with the radar ghost function of the Michael TSCS, allowing it to project false returns. This means that an aircraft equipped with Pallas Athena could appear to be escorting a B-52H heavy bomber into enemy territory, however, when enemy fighters, or SAM sites come into range and attempt to engage, it could return to its ARC mode, and dissapear. If facing threat-force fighters, it could then engage with a missile shot. If the targets were SAM sites, then Anti-Radiation Missiles could be employed.

This combined capability allows Pallas Athena to be used to devastating effect for feints to draw out enemy fighters, or for "Wild Weasel" air defense suppresion missions by pretending to be a worthy target to lure in its prey. Also, Pallas Athena offers capabilities that neither system had. In addition to the Michael system's ability to provide information on the range, bearing, and type of enemy radars, the Pallas Athena can function in Scatter Mode, something the Athena MkI was designed to defeat. In scatter mode, one radar transmits, and another recieves the information.

Pallas Athena can use transmitting enemy radars to recieve information on the aircraft around it, thus allowing the aircraft to operate as if it had an active radar transmitting while maintaining EMCON. As well, in close combat (within thirty statute miles) Pallas Athena can function as a Low-Probability of Intercept, or LPI all-aspect radar, giving the aircraft carrying it full 720-degree spherical radar coverage out to approximately thirty statute miles. While operating as a radar system, the aircraft is visible to other active radars.

To counter this vunlerability Pallas Athena is fully capable of operating in Snapshot Mode, where it sends out a quick pulse, giving the aircraft a "snapshot" of the area around it. This is useful when a pilot has lost visual contact with a target, in that it gives him an approximate area in which to find it. Additionally, if a pilot is using a LOAL IR-guided missile, information from the "snapshot" can tell the missile approximately where to find the target, much as it would be guided if Pallas Athena were operating in Active mode.

In Snapshot Mode, an aircraft with Pallas Athena appears on radar for a bare second, flashing into existance, then fading away again. This has led to Dominion test pilots dubbing the Perseus fighters carrying the prototype Pallas Athena systems "Fireflies" for the way their radar returns would flash on and off their screens in a mass mock dogfight.
OOC:EDITed for clarity.

(OOC: I'm sorry New Empire, but can I hear the word godmod. Not plane can fly sideways. Unless it has 360 degree thrust and a lifting edge on that side. It cannot fly sideways. Even with 2020 tech.)

OOC:It doesn't exactly fly sideways. It can travel to the side and slightly forward, while turning it's nose so the thrust vectoring can work. Not quite sideways, that's what I meant by "Keeping it's nose on target".

This was taken from my unupdated writeup, which is why it's unclear.

The Omzian delegation was travelling everywhere while keeping a good low-profile presence. The Colonel himself was very interested, and as the "doctrine person" in the delegation, he smiled as he approached the different technologies of the other nations. He had something to learn and view, while checking out the sleek aircraft presented in the conference. "It's amazing how aerospace technologies progress over these past years, it's just amazing," he commented to one of his OMASC companions.

The OMASC people however, stayed in where they were, while presenting models and brochures on OMASC products, including the export version of the F-125 Rapier interceptor and the venerable F-14F Tomcat II multirole strike fighter, aside from the B-1C standoff anti-air platform, the EB-52W electric warfare platform, and the C-77 Dasher cargo aircraft. Sensor systems and munitions were also presented. There were much to see.

OOC: A catalog of OMASC products. Nothing amazing for those post-modern tech nations (what I consider to be >2010), but at least that's enough for the tech level I have -- http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63712

Our most unique and most powerful posessions (click the pics for more info):

Manned Fighters

Our top Fighter, The RF-X8:
http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8fixed.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8.htm)

Our top Interceptor, The RF-X7:
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Our top Attacker, the Su-37-1900 R-Type:
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Our most economical Air Superiority Fighter, The RF-9 Liberator:
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Our Stealthiest Interceptor, The RF-23:
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Our Special Forces Aircraft, The Su-37-1818 E-Type: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/etype.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/etype.htm)

Unmanned Fighters

Our awesome Surgical Bombing UCAV, the RF-45:
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Our ruthless Unmanned superiority UCAV, the RF-12:
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Bombers

Our pride and joy, the dominator of the skies and ground, the RB-225 Megafortress Bomber:
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And our new Supersonic Stealth Bomber, the RB-20X7:
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Transports

A light little NVTOL dropship/attacker, the RT-2007:
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Our new large-scale NVTOL dropship, the RT-2207:
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The true hauler of our arsenal, the RT-1707 Jumbo Transport:
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A water-landing version of the same plane, VERY USEFUL:
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A refueler with enough fuel to feed an entire wing of 72 planes, the RT-1807:
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A Hypersonic Luxury Jet, for high-society types in a big effin hurry, the Hyper-Z:
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You're kidding me, right?

In short, an airborne Carrier for deploying and controlling UCAV fighters, the RT-1907:
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Critical Technology

Our most common and most powerful Air-to-Air missile, the QAAM-28:
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The Brother Network Systems Technology (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/brother.htm)

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GM Technology Showcase
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http://www.freewebs.com/americanaces2/B-52L.JPG
B-52I "Old Dog"
Crew: 5
Length: 164 feet
Wingspan: 185 feet
Height: 40 feet, 8 inches
Maximum takeoff weight: 488,000 lbs
Speed: Mach .96
Armament: 8 AIM-54 Phoenix missiles (4 on external pylons, 4 in internal rotary launcher); 8 AIM-120 AMRAAMs (2 on external pylons, 6 mounted in internal rotary launcher); 6 AIM-132 ASRAAMs (all mounted on external pylons); 50 rocket boosted aerial mines with high explosive proximity flak warheads mounted in the tail (3 mile range); 4 AGM-88B HARMs or 4 AGM-65 Maverick A2G missiles mounted in internal rotary launcher; 17,000 lbs assorted ordinance.

The picture here shows a B-52H just after it began the conversion process GM's new B-52I model. The biggest modification to this plane is its ability to carry A2A missiles; this plane alone has more A2A ability than most fighter patrols. An SST style nose has been added, external mounts have been redesigned, and the surface of the aircraft is now highly polished, resulting in a speed increase of .14 mach over previous B-52 models. Black anti-searchlight paint absorbs or scatters any light source focused on the fuselage, making the craft invisible to the naked eye at night. The fuselage has been replaced with radar absorbing fibersteel, the large rectangular bomb bay doors have been replaced with four piece clamshell style doors, and the tail has been changed to a curved V shape to reduce radar return. The two 1,500 gallon external fuel tanks found on earlier B-52 models has been replaced with four 1,000 gallon tanks. State of the art jamming systems and missile launch detection systems have been added to the tail to provide added defense to the rear. Aerial mines are automatically guided to the target by the aft fire control radar; once the mine is within a few hundred yards of the enemy aircraft, it detonates, releasing a flak cloud. The autopilot system uses GPS as well as an internal gyroscope that can keep the plane on course to within a few feet. Terrain avoidance systems based on those of cruise missiles have been added that allow the Old Dog to fly at exceptionally low levels. These systems allow the B-52I to use its radar as little as possible, greatly lowering the chance of it giving its position away. The attack radar has been replaced with an AWG-9 radar from an F-14 Tomcat, allowing the B-52 to feed targeting and tracking data to any of the missiles. It can also be used as an emergency navigation and terrain mapping radar. New rapid cycle jamming systems also allow the B-52I to jam radar to a much further range and on a much wider frequency band than before. The missiles on this craft feature on home on jam targeting as well as standard targeting, enabling the B-52I to engage aircraft reguardless of whether or not the attack radar is jammed. LIDAR systems mounted throughout the ship use low power lasers to enable the craft to take 3-D snapshots of the sky in a 50 mile radius around it with a 5 second pulse. This aircraft is perfectly suited for solo penetration missions.

OOC: Nice Pic GM :)

Abdullah and Omar kept a low profile, while walking past some of the airplanes and they took brochures from every company.

"Hey General, check out this baby!" Omar said, while he stopped walking and he showed Abdullah the brochure of the F-125 Rapier. Abdullah took the brochure and read it. "C'mon Major, let's go check it out, it fits the profile of our requirements. he said and they walked to the presentation of Omz222's products.

Abdullah took of his sunglasses, approached one of the OMASC people and said: "Good afternoon, I'm General Sharif and this is Major Johnson. Could you please give us some more information about the export version of the F-125 Rapier?

<Watching the Raysian Presentation>

DeBrett grinned.
"Got your hands on that pulse jet bomber yet?"
Roskilde nodded.
"Handles well enough" she said. "And fast. It's the perfect platform for what we had in mind."

Elsewhere, Air Marshall Morrisson and the civilian contingent sat and watched with awe.
Warspite was taking notes.
"Do they know anything about Basilisk?"
"Don't think so" said Morrisson.
"Do they know about Hush?"
Morrisson looked over at Warspite and narrowed his eyes.
"No one knows about Hush yet. Not even your uncle. We were going to bring a technology demonstrator...but it's working a little too well at the moment and that's dangerous."
"Well, there's a C-130 coming over with the Basilisk demosntrator onboard and we're bringing an ASTOR over too."
"Anything else?"
Warspite sat back.
"That depends" he said. "Aiglos has something...rather disturbing...on the drawingboard but we're not nearly ready to demosntrate it. One of the things I was sent to do was to find a development partner."

The Air Marshall, ariving late (was allowed in on one of the first pages-1st or 2nd), couldn't help but feeling a bit embarrased. He was also a bit more embarassed at the fact he came not in a sleek, advanced, helicopter or transport of his nation's design, but in a Raysian transport (remember the one you designed for me a while back?).

Along with him came a squadron of 5 IF-47s, the Imperial Su-47 spoof, flying in a V formation, as well as an E-2C aircraft and an extra F-16. The Marshall hoped to have his aircraft engage in mock-dogfights.

While he walked around shaking ands with foriegn representatives, the Marshall had his aircraft perform aerobatic stunts over the area.
After a while of this, the planes landed and the E-2C and the F-16 took to the air.

The E-2C flew far away, refueled, and started back. As soon as the pilot ejected from the F-16, the E-2C crew fired a TWAAM-1 missle at the plane and calmly continued to the runway. The F-16 exploded in full view of the crowd and the pilot landed uninjured.

OOC: Raysian Military Tech, nice pics!

IC: The Celtayoshi delegation was present during the display by Raysian Military Tech.
One engineer noted on his notepad that this delegation certainly had the ability to think forward with excellent designs and innovative thinking.

On the way to another presentation he made sure to lift several brochures for future reference.
He also made a note to check if Celtayoshi could assist in construction of these aircraft.

"We will consider your offer, but if you'll excuse me, I have a presentation to make..." Josef said, business-like and with no conviction behind his voice.
He strode back to the RelicArms display and took the podium before a plasma flat screen TV displaying the flags of Relic Region in a slide show. Behind him was a Relic Edition Valefor 29a with a couple wires running from its cockpit to the TV. Delegates were already assembling on the chairs laid out, carrying manuals from other displays.

"Good day everyone! As you know, RelicArms has led the military technology sector in new ideas for several years, and today we have on display further proof of the excellence of our products. The aeronautics market is changing more rapidly then ever before, and we hope you will come to realize just how much more you can get out of the innovative and technical perfection offered at a fair price by RelicArms."

The demonstration started with the presentation of two new aerospace systems, the RA-768 "Imp" short range missiles, and the RA-19 fighter carried rocket booster. (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/aerospaceweapons.htm)

The Imp was a cool concept; a bunch of small short range missiles for close dogfighting. The amazing part was just how compact they were made using gel-fuel rockets... For the weight of around 4 sidewinders, a plane could carry 10 Imps, the Valefor on display behind them held 2 of such boxes. 10 long range missiles, and 20 short range missiles on one plane. Long after an enemy would have expanded all their ammo, a plane with such a capacity could continue to fight effectively. On the Valefor this was especially true, because it had an unparalled missile countermeasure that actually shot down missiles. Very impressive.

The second item was perched atop the Valefor, massive between the two tail fins. The RA-19 rocket booster had the ability to push the Valefor into orbit from high altitudes. At the moment, this technology really doesn't seem to have so big of an export market, since the Valefor is the only plane that incorporates a method of reducing reentry friction to levels the plane can withstand. Prospective buyers should take notice though that the friction reducing technology was already for sale in export Valefors, and intercontinental deployment was a concept too cool to pass up. Should the rocket booster become available, Valefor owners will find themselves with an unprecedented new tactical ability.

Yatta yatta yatta, blah blah blah......Josef got around to the good part.

One of the guards in the black CEBA armor stepped up into the cockpit and flipped a switch, causing the TV to change screens. A detailed map of the surrounding airbase came up, shown from a birds eye view. Little things could be seen moving around on the map, and in a second it became obvious that they were vehicles, and this wasn't a map, but rather a view from some type of sensor. Judging by the semi-transparancy of the hangar rooftops, it was probably some type of radar, but the source was nowhere to be seen. Josef let the information process for a bit, then intoned: "At the moment, we have nothing in the sky, this isn't a satellite view or an invisible helicopter looking down on us.....This is the radar imaging from the plane behind me!"

The response was predictable, but nonetheless humorous. Delegates began to shift uncomfortably and chat in hushed voices amongst their secretaries. No one would burst out and try to disprove such a fantastic claim, because there was no explanation to how it could be pulled off if it was a fraud. The guard in the CEBA suit fiddled with some more controls, and the view zoomed in on a spot no more then 30 ft over everyones heads, te screen was like a mirror of their every move.

Josef chimed in: "If you'll turn to page 7 in our brochure, you'll see how we managed to pull this off.... (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/radarsystem.htm)"

He continued on, mostly for the New Empire delegates who had probably already read as much as they could on the subject. "This radar works in such a way that it is mathematically impossible to decode it from anywhere but the source. In our old radars, the beams travelled straight out, and gave a clue as to how much energy they started with, critical to jamming them. This radar bounces and loses energy, and since it is impossible to tell how many bounces it has gone through, and how much energy it started from, where the source was. Even a copy of this system cant decode all this, because its one in a million that a computer will guess the numbers right, a total failure if it guesses wrong, and there is no way to check other than by using your own radar to confirm, which lets us see you with double clarity."

"Questions? For those of you that haven't been to all of our competitors booths yet, let me point them out." Josef drew a stick and started poking at the screen. "....and this is the Rayisan exhibit, that would be their stealth Commanche parked right there......."

Relic Arms Aerospace Store (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/storefrontaircraft.htm)
Some weapons in the display (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/aerospaceweapons.htm)

Abdullah and Omar kept a low profile, while walking past some of the airplanes and they took brochures from every company.

"Hey General, check out this baby!" Omar said, while he stopped walking and he showed Abdullah the brochure of the F-125 Rapier. Abdullah took the brochure and read it. "C'mon Major, let's go check it out, it fits the profile of our requirements. he said and they walked to the presentation of Omz222's products.

Abdullah took of his sunglasses, approached one of the OMASC people and said: "Good afternoon, I'm General Sharif and this is Major Johnson. Could you please give us some more information about the export version of the F-125 Rapier?

The only Omzian military personnel, the Colonel, smiled as he answered, "Good afternoon to you, General, I'm Colonel Lorane, the Assistant Chief of Contractor Relations and Development in the Omzian Air Force" he said as he extended his hand for shaking in a quick manner. "The F-125 Rapier, or rather the export version of it being the F-125E, is our new high-speed interceptor aircraft originated from an Omzian Air Force requirement for an aircraft capable of engaging the new breed of enemy high altitude reconissance and strike aircraft."

The OMASC representative, Gorand Vorans continued. "This is our premier fighter-interceptor aircraft for export to nations with such requirements. The interceptor aircraft, designed to engage such aircraft as Colonel Lorane mentioned, is able to reach up speeds up to Mach three and up, with an altitude of over eighty thousand feet. It boasts a premier radar suite, coupled with an IRST and electric-optical sensor, optimized to react to stealthy enemy aircraft and enemy aircraft with electric countermeasures. It is also capable of carrying out new Spear long-range interception missile among others, and has great flexibility for a variety of air superiority and interception missions also."

"Mr Branson, " one of his bodyguards pipped. "Isn't that one of the OMASC representatives? Ya know, the guy who you negotiated the sale from ESAA with?"
Branson looked at him. It had been years since he worked for ESAA. He was only a junior clerk back then.
"You must be mistaken. I'll speak to him though."

Branson walked over to the Rapier. The aircraft reminded him of the diagrams he printed off for his boss in ESAA a while ago. He picked up a brochure and began reading through it.

The only Omzian military personnel, the Colonel, smiled as he answered, "Good afternoon to you, General, I'm Colonel Lorane, the Assistant Chief of Contractor Relations and Development in the Omzian Air Force" he said as he extended his hand for shaking in a quick manner. "The F-125 Rapier, or rather the export version of it being the F-125E, is our new high-speed interceptor aircraft originated from an Omzian Air Force requirement for an aircraft capable of engaging the new breed of enemy high altitude reconissance and strike aircraft."

The OMASC representative, Gorand Vorans continued. "This is our premier fighter-interceptor aircraft for export to nations with such requirements. The interceptor aircraft, designed to engage such aircraft as Colonel Lorane mentioned, is able to reach up speeds up to Mach three and up, with an altitude of over eighty thousand feet. It boasts a premier radar suite, coupled with an IRST and electric-optical sensor, optimized to react to stealthy enemy aircraft and enemy aircraft with electric countermeasures. It is also capable of carrying out new Spear long-range interception missile among others, and has great flexibility for a variety of air superiority and interception missions also."

(OOC: could you give the planes's stats? I saw them once, but I only remeber them vagualy)

Abdullah smiled and said:"Impressive, very impressive. I will personally recommend this plane to the ASAF as the replacement for our aging F-15s. And about the Spear, is it a good replacement for the AIM-54 Phoenix? We got good medium and short-range missiles, but we still need a long-range missile."

Abdullah smiled and said:"Impressive, very impressive. I will personally recommend this plane to the ASAF as the replacement for our aging F-15s. And about the Spear, is it a good replacement for the AIM-54 Phoenix? We got good medium and short-range missiles, but we still need a long-range missile."
OOC: Its here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600&sid=f1d94b809e26e1751d09e7e2e5e85cc6). Just scroll down if necessaary, and you'll find the info about the origional version and the missile.
However, for the export version, I will probably make a secondary stats for that, but it shouldn;t be much different. Just that the speed is decreased by a tiny bit, so does the operation altitude, the electronics (though not that degraded, the radar range will take a reduction), and the likes -- the plane ICly is supposed to be Omzian Air Force-only, but a decision to export it to approved country was approved after the company was awarded a huge contract by a fellow ally.

IC:

Vorans continued his takeover as he replied in a friendly fashion. "Of course, it is one of our newest project, fresh out of the oven -- if you know what I mean. As much as in the air force ourselves it isn't really intended to replace the F-15s as a tactical fighter, this bird does has high hopes. Hopefully with additional funding an overhaul could be in the works soon.

The Spear could be considered as a replacement for the AIM-54 as it can be installed onto aircraft such as the F-14D Tomcat with slight modifications, although it was much designed as a long-range interception missile carried exclusively by the Rapier. However, it is a good candidate, and can be used against a wide variety fo targets, including bombers, cruise missiles, or even other fighters. It also boasts a dual-mode seeker, advanced electric counter-counter measures, and low detection capabilities, aside using a hybrid rocket-scramjet engine for maximum efficency."

After shocking everyone with the radar demonstration, the presentation went to the next market RelicArms was perfecting: direct action countermeasures (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/countermeasures.htm).

Even before the air conference, the Relic Edition Valefors had mounted the 'Buckler' anti-missile system, which actually shot down incoming missiles as opposed to diverting and decoying them. It was strange how few nations bothered looking at this technology earlier, using many tiny fixed guns that used guided ammo to shoot down missiles would seem like something pretty amazing. *Maybe they were dazzled by the sheer amount of innovations we made and couldn't see individual ones through the shock*thought Josef. The system was better than any other countermeasure suite in at least the fact that it could engage any and all missiles, and all had an equally high chance of being destroyed. What many failed to realize was the shocking secondary function of the system: as a dogfighting weapon. Anything that got too close to a Valefor would find itself in lots of pain as bullets could arch out from every angle of the plane to strike them. This effectively gave the Valefor its own personal 'no fly zone'........

To be fair, RelicArms has opted to equip export models with streamlined reactive armor to give people a taste of how awesome it must be to have your own missile shield.

The new exclusive product in the active countermeasures market is the 'Moondust' anti-ballistic spray (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/countermeasures.htm). Using UV sensitive epoxy with diamond dust blended in, combined with powerful sprayers and UV lasers, this system actually makes a wall of tough plastic and diamond dust that drastically impedes the power and accuracy of projectile weapons. This is a huge advantage in dogfights, as many time the enemy can only get in a fraction of a second of firing, and reducing the number of hits they score makes sense.

Also, to demonstrate the new RA-42 'Knuckles' Scramjet Ground Attack Drone, RelicArms will attempt to fly it through the defenses of a country that has declared a no fly zone over itself. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140403)

"Hm, most impressive," said Zoogiedom air force delegate Nicholas Watson as he looked at the Sileetris presentation. (OOC: This is modern, right?)

"Haven't we considered having something that shoots down incoming missiles?" he asked his partner, both of whom were travelling around and looking at the exhibits.

"I believe so, but nothing like this...we were thinking of having a short-ranged AAM that can also lock on missiles...yes, that would be the MSAAM Program, which is still running, I believe."

"Ah," said Nicholas, stopping by the Sileetris delegate. "Could you explain more about the 'Imp'? How is it guided..."

--

Meanwhile, his partner had gone off to look at the Omz222 F-125 Rapier. Connley stopped him as he walked past. "Anything new at the Raysian assembly?"

"Nothing we don't know about...same old story...and endless stream of excellent products. We need to jumpstart our own combat aerospace industry."

"When is the Gecko coming by?"

"Just now...I think..."

--

Meanwhile, out on the airstrip, two fighters were making their inbound as the crowds were gathering to see the fighters of the other nations.

"I hope he's not going to do anything 'special'," shouted Lt. Eric Johnson into his radio, standing at the bottom of tower control. "We don't need to screw things up right now..."

"You know him," returned Connley, exasperated. "He's going to crash his plane for all I know..."

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/54396/astovl.jpg

The first of the ZaS-42s flew towards the airbase steadily - it wasn't making a landing approach. Instead, it was going into a series of random manuevers - split S, barrel rolls, the famed Cobra, among others - with perfect accuracy.

"Blast that little - "

Then the aircraft dipped down and screeched right for one of the aircraft hangars of the delegates. Nose dipped nearly straight down, engine off, and an airbrake up, it was going to either crash or stall - or both at the same time.

As the aircraft neared impact with the hangar, it began to stall - and simultaneously hit the computer's 'death zone' level. Emergency flight control mechanisms turned down the airbrakes, switched on the engines, directed thrust forward, and took control of all flight control mechanisms - all in a split second, performing extremely drastic manuevers to get out of the way...and all of this was automated. The aircraft instantly recovered from an otherwise fatal stall and climbed into level flight at 4000 feet. The pilot was understandably dizzy, but soon recovered and headed back into position for a normal landing.

The second ZaS-42 made its approach first this time. Performing no fancy, not-on-the-script manuevers or tricks, it simply flew fully loaded, including four 1000-lb munitions on its wing pylons - right over the runway.

It touched down vertically.

http://www.strange-mecha.com/aircraft/x/x35pm.JPG
The ZaS-42 Gecko (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=140087)

Zoogiedom's only current fighter entry had arrived.

OOC: What exactly is 'guided ammo' and how does it work?

<demonstrations>

DeBrett watched avidly, taking notes. Warspite did likewise. Roskilde snorted.

'Problem?'
'Yeah,' she asied languidly 'there's a small problem with those missile defence systems and the idea of a no-fly zone around an aircraft.'
'Save it' said Morrisson quietly, effectively slamming the door on further discussion. In his hand, a sleek PDA was streaming news and information across its screen. 'We have a technology or two to demonstrate ourselves, so let's focus on what these people can do, rather than on what we think it can't do.'
The team nodded, and returned to paying the demonstrations the attention they deserved.

The Zoogie People: (ooc: post-modern like Raysia) "Excellent question!", Josef clicked on some things on his laptop and the display changed to a diagram comparing an Imp missile to a Sidewinder, the Imp being roughly a third its length. "The Imp accomplishes its small stature through four differences in design. First, its explosive warhead is surrounding the missile's inner components like a tube, instead of stacking up with them. The missile uses thrust vectoring instead of fins. The engines uses a gel fuel instead of solid propellant, allowing for much more power in a smaller area. Finally, the guidance system on the missile...." Josef brings up a diagram of the missile in flight heading towards a plane, signals can be seen bouncing everywhere. "The guidance system saves large amounts of space by having only half a radar system, the reciever, and recieving instructions from the plane that launched it. Seconds before launch each Imp is programmed with a frequency to home in on, and a confirmation signal to tell it to continue, the launching plane then proceeds to broadcast both of these against a target. If an enemy somehow figures out the homing signal and broadcasts a decoy, the missile knows better because the confirmation signal isn't present. The confirmation signal is programmed randomly and is impossible to predict, so its likewise impossible to broadcast back. Basically you point your finger and say the magic word, and the Imp does its job."

Praetonia: OOC: Guided ammo is basically a pivot on the nose of a bullet that changes its aerodynamics midflight, allowing it to arch in different directions. For a much more detailed account, look it up on google...Also, I bought it off Pheonixius, who bought it off Kotterdam, so you'll have to consult with them before you can use it.

Durtistan: OOC: If your going to say something like they have a chance of clipping off the tail of my own plane, it isn't a problem, because we have the firing solutions for that worked out.

The aerospace engineers in the ACS delegation all just kind-of boggle at the fact that someone is trying to build reactive armor on an aircraft. The problems with explosive arc, wing and control surface damage, and aerodynamic and aeroelastic effects are enough to make even the most grizzled techie groan in disbelief.

Durtistan: OOC: If your going to say something like they have a chance of clipping off the tail of my own plane, it isn't a problem, because we have the firing solutions for that worked out.

OOC: Nope, that wasn't the issue I was thinking of. This is better kept to an RP, I think, because the answer to what I'm going to comment on is bound to give you another opportunity to sell the technology :D

IC:

<Lunch>

Morrisson sipped a glass of water and put his fork down.
"So," he said thoughtfully "comments?"
Roskilde sat back in her chair and drew a breath, preparing to launch into a rant.
"It's the Sileetris point defense system" said DeBrett with a smirk. Roskilde glared. He met her glare. "You're not the only pilot at the table" he said, and then gestured that she should continue.
"Formation flying" said Roskilde.
"And?" said Morrisson.
"When you fly a CAP you tend to stick close to your wingman. Sometimes, when you're flying as a wing or you're moving towards a waypoint you do so in formation. Some missiles, like the Amraam for example, fire from beyond visual range. So if someone pops a SAM or AMRAAM at a formation you'll have all these guns looking to engage and pilots scattering all over. I wouldn't want to fly through the lead storm that results."
"But surely," said Gordon Tyms "the system would be manually controlled. You'd have to tell it that it was OK to engage and defeat the missle."
"The AIM 120 SLAMMER" said Morrisson quietly "moves at supersonic speeds. Mach 4 in fact. If the missile is launched toward the target, the closing speed is the speed of the missile PLUS the speed of the target. With some aircraft that gives a closing speed of mach 5 plus." He shook his head. "Nope, you'd need it to be an automated system because it would need to react fast."
"Also," said DeBrett happily "not all missile need to make a hard kill."
Tyms looked confused.
"Missiles come in two sorts" said Warspite "some hit the target dead on, and some explode near the target. Hard and Soft kills. A soft kill fills the air near the target with shrapnel and looks to get sucked into engines, shred control surfaces etc. Hard kill missiles are lots harder to target, but they always result in a downed aircraft if they hit."
Tyms frowned.
"So what you're saying" he said carefully "is that shooting down a missile could turn it from a hard kill weapon to a soft kill weapon."
"That's right" said Roskilde happily.
"Of course" said DeBrett "it does rather depend on how far out the system engages the target. Hit it far enough out and no problem. But if it gets close...well..." he shrugged.
"Well," said Tyms brightly "why not try talking to the manufacturer? I'm sure this stuff would have come up during the trials. Unless, of course, they didn't fit it to more than one aircraft. But they'll know and since making contact with people is part of the mission, perhaps you should do that, Flight Lieutenant."
Air Marshall Morrisson grinned.
"GOOD idea" he said.

While Branson continued to read the OMASC brochure, the Taiwanese demonstrator aircraft were being hauled into their own hangars. The Taiwanese salesman were finally good to go.

F-36T
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/x-36-2585183.jpg

The F-36T is Taipei's next generation air superiority fighter.The propulsion and thrust-vectoring on the F-36 are Ching-Kuo's pride and joy. Fully 3D, the F-36T is capable of ESTOL and VTOL as well as unsurpassed maneuverability which is also enhanced by the use of composite flexible materials.

Function: Air Superiority
Length: 50.67 feet
Wingspan: 42.5 feet
Max Weight : 60,000 lbs
Thrust: Single engine @ 45,000lbs
Propulsion: TN-3 3D thrust-vectored trubofans
Speed: Mach 1.7 Cruise - Mach 1.9 Max
Combat radius: 740nm
Armaments:
Internal : 8 BVRAAMs, 2 Python Vs
Cost: $47 million

CK IDF-2 Blue Eagle

The IDF-2 is a multirole fighter featuring variable sweep wings based on the 'Switchblade' concept. This allows the IDF-2 to be both fast and highly maneuverable. In FSW configuration, the IDF-2 is an excellent dogfighter. In delta wing configuration, the IDF-2 is very streamlined and can attain speeds of Mach 3 with it's two PDE assisted turbofans. With wings full opened, the IDF-2 can fly at very low speeds, dropping bombs with great accuracy. The IDF-2 can also be used in a Wild Weasel role. The thrust vectored turbofans allow STOL.

Length: 73.6 feet
Wingspan: 63 feet (fully open), 60 feet (FSW), 35 feet (delta)
Max Weight : 130,000lbs
Thrust: Twin engine @ 45,000lbs
Propulsion: TN-3 3D thrust-vectored trubofans
Speed: Mach 2.0 Cruise - Mach 3.0 Max
Combat radius: 800nm
Armaments (Internal):
10 BVRAAMs, 2 Python Vs (air interdiction)
4 BVRAAMs, 36 Small Diameter bombs (strike)

Cost: $77 million

Maritime Meteor (BVRAAM)
A navalised version of the Matra Meteor BVRAAM. When compared to the ESSM (Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile), it has superior performance against low-flying targets and high speed targets. The Maritime Meteor (MM) also features advanced air-breathing technology, providing sufficient acceleration to hit aircraft at the extremities of range – thus, max range is the effective range. The MM is also futureproofed, with only cheap software upgrades instead of hardware upgrades and can operate reliably under heavy EW conditions. It is launched from the standard VLS cell.

Length: 3.9m
Diameter: 0.5m
Wingspan: 0.7m
Range: 85km

Cost: $0.4m

OOC: ACS since you didn't decide to ask my delegation the question, I'll just explain oocly.
Explosion Arc: No problem at all, shaped charges put schrapnel out in an easy to predict pattern, they also focus almost all of their pressure outwards.
Damage to plane: the reactive plates are only in areas where it would be totally impossible to be hit by our own debris, such as on the tops and bottoms of the wings, and the very back of the plane, the debris goes outwards and backwards relative to the plane and the plane can only turn so fast, so the schrapnel is out of the way long before any other part of the plane touches it. Furthermore on that point, when the explosives go off, they only push on the skin of the plane a small amount, and no debris is shot inward, the skin under the charge isn't under stress until the bomb goes off and the skin is exposed to rushing air again.
The aerodynamics: are practically un-compromised because the panels are low flat domes that don't touch the airfoil on the front of the wing, if you want problems with aerodynamics etc. you'll find more problems with external weaponry.

IC:

After A Brief Lunch Intermission.......(its funny to watch guys in 35lb bulletproof ceramic armor eating hot pockets)........

The initial freak-everyone-out part of the display was now over, and the more serious business side was coming into view. The more scientifcally inclined delegates were clustered around the front of the stage, as questions were answered and many diagrams were shown. The pilots tended to climb up the side of the Valefor and admire the cockpit, which was currently swtiched on, allowing them to see the ground via the flat fiber-screens imbedded in the floor, below the plane was a sticker that said; "If you can read this, the cameras are working :-)"

A young officer from Durtistan, "-didn't catch the name-", thought Josef, inquired about the workings of the Buckler system in relation to friendly units, "-right answer the question, move on-", Josef said to himself, now encountering the effects of serious jetlag from exoatmospheric flight....

"The most important point I'd like to stress is that these are not designed to stop a missile singlehandedly, a pilot should still be trying his very best to avoid being hit, this is something to help the pilot, not make them lazy. Several systems are in place to insure friendly fire incidents from automated systems never occur. One thing that should be mentioned before hand, however, is the fact that we kinda cheat on this because of our advanced radar; we have very powerful active sensors going at most times, so we can see everything coming very clearly. Without the sensors on the aircraft a system like this is nothing. That said, the first system in place is simply ensuring that the bullets will hit nothing except their intended target. The radar system tells these guns whether or not they have a clear shot, predicting several seconds in advance the movements of surrounding units. This goes hand in hand with predictions of the missile's movements and probable target. So here is a scenario: You and your friends are flying in formation on a patrol somewhere, out of nowhere a missile streaks up at you, and you in particular. You all break and move in seperate directions. The missile lines up for its run on you and your buckler prepares to fire, but *gasp* one of your freinds is going to fly through the stream of bullets, so it doesn't fire. Risking the life of a friendly isn't justified when your life is similarly only at risk. It may be too late for you to stop the missile now, it may not be. The next part of the system is the cooperative nature of it; if a friend is at risk, the system will engage the missile threatening them if it doesn't endanger anyone. Back to the scenario, if your friend who blocked your shot at the missile had a buckler system of his own, it would attmpt to take shots at the missile, so long as it didn't endanger anyone in doing so. The missile may be stopped by him, or it may not. It helps to think of the buckler not as a machinegun that puts up a wall of bullets to stop something, but instead more like a rifle that has to pick its shots carefully.

The more tricky problem involved with shooting down missiles is: What happens to all the debris? Technically, the missile can still kill you even if its in a million little pieces, some are designed to anyway. Whether or not you will be hit by schrapnel is really dependant wholly on which way the missile is coming in relation to you; if its trying to chase you down, the pieces will be gone with the wind, if its heading straight at you, nose facing nose, you may be in for some turbulance. But consider the alternatives, if you don't shoot down the missile, it is much more likely to hit just as it intends to, forcing it to explode throws off its schedule. Unless it is somehow going to miss due to other factors, shooting it down is always healthier than lettng it go. We aren't saying we can stop it from damaging your plane entirely, but we are saying that it greatly improves your chances of taking less damage. As for what happens when you are forced to fly through clouds of razor-sharp debris, we have the most technologically advanced system of reducing engine damage known to man: chicken wire!" Josef winked and continued taking questions.

There was brief laughter, one of the pilots checking out the cockpit looked into the intakes to see if it was true: it is :-D.

Dr. Cu'ong raised her hand. "Impressive demonstration, sir, but what about kinetic-kill weapons like THAAD and LoSAT style missiles-systems that use a metallic mass instead of an explosive charge for a warhead, is it effective against those, or not?"

In a startling development Celtayoshi annonced a change in policy, its main aerospace company had recently started work on its 'Project Dolphin'
'Project Dolphin' is Celtayoshi's new initaitive to release the first ever aircraft designed and made in Celtayoshi for military purposes. Due to relatively early design stages a release date has not been set, but it was hinted that preliminary designs would be shown before it was decieded if the market was out there.

Josef thought for a moment; "Considering LoSAT is anti-tank munitions, we wouldn't have much trouble with that..."he grinned,"...but to answer your question, it should shoot them down just as well as anything else. The system typically engages at a range of around 2.5 kilometers so anything that isn't directly ahead of the plane should be pretty much neutralized entirely, regardless of composition. Even the largest missiles can't take more than 2 shots from 20mm, so hitting the explosive areas of a missile isn't a necessary factor to destroying it."

OOC: Do you have any idea how reactive armor actually works and how much armor it sits upon to begin with? Reactive armor is not a panacea that leaves the tank armor unscathed. Its purpose is to prevent total penetration by dispersing a shaped charge jet.

http://thor.prohosting.com/~normkay/noframes/no_reactive.html

It also has to be properly shaped to anticipate the angle that an attack will come from, or it can be circumvented. (That's without getting into the significant weight penalties such a system would impose on an aircraft.)

Even with advanced shaping techniques and composite sandwiching, there is still going to be some penetration. An aircraft wing full of fuel and essential control mechanisms is about as good as dead if the missile is close enough for reactive armor to try to deflect it.

You're better off sticking to advanced ECM, sensor blinders, and anti-missile guns that will keep the missile from getting too close.

http://img24.photobucket.com/albums/v73/TheQ2005/cbee4480.jpg
F/A-302
Primary Function: Multirole fighter
Power Plant: Two General Electric F414-GE-400 engines with afterburners
Wingspan: 21 Meters
Length: 17 Meters
Height: 10 Meters.
Crew complement: 2 (pilot and radar intercept officer)
Ceiling: 70,000 feet
Speed
Max Mach Number: 2.5
Cruise Mach Number: .81
Armament:
(Internal)
M61 Vulcan 6-barrel rotary cannon with 1250 rounds of 20mm ammunition; internally mounted in the nose

(External)
Six AIM-120C Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles (AMRAAM)
or
Two AIM-9 Sidewinders
Two 1,000-pound Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM)
or
Two HyStrike High Speed Strike Missiles
Two Durandal Anti Runway Bombs
or
Two AGM-158 Joint Air to Surface Standoff Missiles (JASSM)
Two 1,000-pound Joint Direct Attack Munitions (JDAM)
or
Two (GBU-24) Paveway IIIs
Unit Cost: $50 million

OOC: Does anyone know of a good 3D modeler I can use?

Josef thought for a moment; "Considering LoSAT is anti-tank munitions, we wouldn't have much trouble with that..."he grinned,"...but to answer your question, it should shoot them down just as well as anything else. The system typically engages at a range of around 2.5 kilometers so anything that isn't directly ahead of the plane should be pretty much neutralized entirely, regardless of composition. Even the largest missiles can't take more than 2 shots from 20mm, so hitting the explosive areas of a missile isn't a necessary factor to destroying it."

Dr. Cu'ong listened politely, and replied. "The reason I asked, is that we've recently been doing experiments with a Kinetic-kill air-to-air missile that uses a twenty-kilogram Depleted Uranium penetrator accelerated to six times the speed of sound. We haven't gotten the burn-duration up to acceptable levels-it has barely sixty miles of range. A system like yours makes that work a bit superfluous, except as an intellectual excercise."

Branso, who had previously been silent, asked the Sileetris representative a question.

"For an acceptable rate of fire and range, won't the system weight a lot?"

ACS: OOC: I only called it reactive armor because that is what it resembles most, it isn't designed to stop jets of molten metal, but throw debris at missiles. I have added a rough diagram on our site (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/countermeasures.htm). Obviously it can only be mounted in certain places and can really only cover the back 120~ degrees of the plane, and hitting a missile is a matter of luck. We didn't say it will hit all the time, but giving a plane better chances for survival is never a bad thing.

Nuevo Kowloon: OOC: I considered doing something like that, but I ended up settling for a lance of superheated plasma at 1 km, because all these advancements in long range, impossible to avoid, weapons will be the death of dramatic aerial engangements. No more sweet dogfights if the planes can shoot eachother down half the world away with the press of a button. I'm not saying stuff like that is unfeasible, because it certainly isn't, but I'm saying it could make for bad RPs.

Taiwan: (ooc: I assume you mean the buckler, as the reactive armor is one-shot)

"The system doesn't weigh much because of the guided ammo. The cannons are extremely short-barreled, and range suffers for it. And the rate of fire is very low....." Josef sipped from his water bottle, ".....BUT the guided ammo gives it very high accuracy, the positioning of the barrels means many of them can fire on the same target, and the speeds involved in aerial combat make range a very different issue; the bullets could be standing still and the missile hitting them would be enough to do damage."

(ooc: Will make more cheap MSpaint diagrams soon)

OOC: RL Planes aren't armoured, heck, even the 11kg of HE on the Python IV virtually guarantees crippling damage (which is pretty much the same as a kill)

"What happens if the missile is capable of pop-up?"

Taiwan: (ooc: nevermind about the armor part, that is part of a discussion on another countermeasure system I have.....)

"That is a big 'what if'. To date we know of no anti-aircraft missile desgined to do the pop-up manuever, for many reasons. By default, anti-aircraft missiles aren't expecting incoming fire, so they aren't designed to deal with it. The popup manuever is also ineffective in aerial combat because it throws the missile off course, the only reason it works in naval systems is because boats aren't going fast enough to dodge. In theory if you could get over both of those problems, the missile would have a greater chance of avoiding interception from our system, but we honestly don't expect anyone to design an extremely advanced missile just to overcome our little device."

"Advanced? Not really..." he says with a smirk on his face. "We have a few software...

He trails off.

Nuevo Kowloon: OOC: I considered doing something like that, but I ended up settling for a lance of superheated plasma at 1 km, because all these advancements in long range, impossible to avoid, weapons will be the death of dramatic aerial engangements. No more sweet dogfights if the planes can shoot eachother down half the world away with the press of a button. I'm not saying stuff like that is unfeasible, because it certainly isn't, but I'm saying it could make for bad RPs.





(ooc: Will make more cheap MSpaint diagrams soon)

[ooc] The effectiveness of the Buckler works for that too-a weapon that can see and hit missiles can see and shred aircraft.
What I was actually working toward is a weapon that basically isn't very complicated, and forces the other side into a dogfight-situation. The NK-1 Missile is based on HARM tech-targeting radars and jamming systems are what it's supposed to track in on-but it's got a dreadfully short range for an AAM, and it weighs in as very heavy. An enemy facing them is going to have to choose between using guided missiles that will attract fire at the lock-on, or hold back and use the short-ranged or heat-seeking stuff.

Unnoticed, a Cessna lands on the runway outside. The hatch opens, and an extremely young man with slightly messy brown hair, wearing the uniform of a junior Chardonayan Air Force officer tumbles out. He reaches back in, and pulls out a large poster and a small suitcase, then trots into the conference building. When he is challenged by the guards, it takes hip a while to find his pass, and papers scatter all over the tarmac as a result of his frantic search. After gathering them up, be darts in, finds an unoccupied table, and sets up his poster, all the while apologizing to anyone around him for being late, he had to give a thermodynamics exam and didn't get out until just this morning. He arranges pamphlets on the table around it. the poster reads

Dbts/C Cheap and Dirty Weapons Inc.
For those with a limited exchequer, an interest in realistic, possible weapons, and a since of humour

It then continues with a brief description of several current Dbts/C projects... the pamphlets re more interesting... they read

The death of Stealth, Cheaply and Dirtily

Successor to the Il-2 Shturmovik

Is the TDB really Dead?

Ship Killers

Air/Water interface research.

ABM Systems, what might actually work?

First Strike Satellite Slayers

Alternatives to GPS

When we say Theatre Air Defence, we mean Theatre Air Defence

With his little kiosk set up, he pulls up a chair, and begins dozing, but keeps an eye out for anyone with a question. Colonel Dr. Alexi Antonev, Chardonayan Intelligence, Aviation Division, is never taken unawares.

<Durtistan Technology Demonstration>

Anthony Warspite stepped up to the podium and tried to steady his nerves. The screen behind him was blank, the projector linked to his Istari laptop and the laptop networked to a groundstation and several cameras. He'd done the demo a few times before but never before such a potentially critical audience.

As the lights went down for the first part of the demo, he forced a smile and as ever it banished his nerves entirely. Show time.

"It's a truism that modern conflict is no longer a case of brave pilot seeking out brave pilot in an aeriel joust. Today, we no longer view the land and air war as seperate entities but instead look to manage an integrated battlespace."

"The key to effective management of any situation is information. It needs to be accurate, on time and on demand. The key to managing a battlespace is information in real-time. Durtistan Arms is proud to present Astor (http://www.mindspew.com/durtistan/ASTOR.jpg). Designed to suppliment and improve AWACS coverage, Astor is an over-the-horizon radar platform capable of controlling air and ground assets; it can provide feeds to ground stations in near-realtime, allowing rapid decisions to be made based on the very latest information. For example..."

Warspite turned to look behind him. The screen displayed an outside view - an Astor flying in a holding pattern - and then a screenfull of radar information.

"Now," said Warspite cheerfully "some of us are trained to interpret this kind of display and some are not. So let's make things a little easier to read."
The display shifted and became a 3-D CG image of the surrounding area. Warspite studied it for a moment.
"There's a delay of about six seconds while the processors do some interpretation...but I think we can see...yes! There's the pizza I ordered arriving!"
And indeed the screen was displaying a motor-scooter arriving at the building. Warspite changed focus to show less detail and more area.
"As you can see, we've got the various aircraft...and these are clearly airborne. We have local ground traffic...imagine if that were a convoy. You could now direct a strike or close ground support aircraft to attack it..."

The image jumped to an AC-130U Spooky Gunship doing exactly that. Warspite waited a moment.
"Just kidding. Actually, that's stock footage. Here's the real picture."
The image jumped again. A C-130H.
"Now, our gracious hosts have allowed us to do this next part of the demo out on a bombing range for the very simple reason that if it goes wrong we don't want a Herky dropping on us from a great height.
"A number of different aircraft types are vunerable to this next issue..."

The picture pans to show a man holding a SAM.

"This guy is holding an IR targetting SAM and he's waiting to kill our friend in the Herky. To make things interesting, we've given him two other similarly armed friends. The poor Hercules pilot doesn't have the maneuverability to shake three SAMs at close range, but he won't need it. Watch."

One by one, and in rapid succession, the three soldiers launched their missiles. The Hercules began to bank, then the first missile appeared to lose its way, looping off at random. The second missile followed suit, as did the third. All three missiles failed to get anywhere near the Hercules, exploding in the air or dropping to the ground as their fuel ran out.

"That, folks, is Basilisk (http://www.mindspew.com/durtistan/basilisk.jpg), also known as Directional Infrared CounterMeasures. Essentially, Basilisk is a powerful infrared lamp which is directed at an incoming missile to blind the seeker head. Of course, it's more complex than that, but you can see the effect and the advantage to aircraft that are required to loiter. We're talking AWACS, tankers, gunships, command platforms and stealth aircraft."

Warspite paused and looked out at the audience.

"We were due to have demonstrations of the Brimstone anti-armor missile and a couple of other systems, but we have decided to let these two flagship products to give you a benchmark. If you're interested in the ASAT, second generation AGMs, urban and high altitiude surviellance systems and the integration software that we're rolling out, come let us know. And thanks for your time."

Dr. Antonev beamed and whispered to the person sitting next to him . "He's right, systems like the Basilisk really do work. Dbts.C has similar systems. THough rather than using a single powerful lamp, oreven attmpting to blind the seaker, we have several lower powed lamps that shift their intencity, giving the impression that the plane is manouvering. It confuses AIM-132's to no end!"

During a coffee break, Josef had one of his bodyguards collect pamphlets from the other booths, as he was too busy explaining stuff to get any free time. During a lull in conversation, while a video was playing explaining the propulsion systems in a dropship, Josef took some time to read over the Dbts/C Cheap and Dirty Weapons Inc. pamhplet entitled "The death of Stealth, Cheaply and Dirtily". This intereseted him greatly, as the war of radar systems had just come to what he considered an end with the announcement of HSCDEADGR, still he wanted to know if the cheap and dirty method could overcome the Athena radar cancellers as the HSCDEADGR system could.

(ooc: Chardonay please explain how you overcome stealth systems)

The pamphlet describes two ways of defeating stealth systems.

ooc Note, these techniques are copyrighted Unforgiven region technology, talk to us before you use them.

ic
Stealth systems work in two ways... either they jam the scanning radar by emitting various frequencies of radio waves, or they deflect the radio waves away from the receiver. Most radar systems have the transmitter and receiver in the same location, so current generation stealth systems attempt to scatter the waves away from the incident direction.. A third system, that is much less effective, is the use of radar absorbent material. In modern aircraft, all three systems are combined.

But there are weaknesses. No matter what kind of stealthing is used, radio waves are still interrupted and deflected by the aircraft. Our countermeasure system is extremely simple. The first part is to fly weather balloons high in the atmosphere, at say, 70 km, possibly higher. These would have radio transmitters that would broadcast a signal. Any aircraft passing below it, even if stealthed, will interrupt the signal and cast a radio shadow on the ground. This phenomenon has been observed with cell phones. Scattered on the ground would be many passive radio receivers which can be extremely small (think about your clock radio) and, because they are passive, have a long battery lifespan and are impossible to target. These would detect such a shadow, and transmit relative data back to a central command post, where the aircraft's trajectory could be triangulated and interceptors dispatched, or provide firing solutions for AAA., particularly Dbts/C rocket assisted 88mm flack cannons. This is more of a theatre detection system, and would cost far less than current countermeasures.

The second system consists of a series of very powerful radio transmitters, this time on the ground. Radio waves would be deflected off stealthed aircraft, away from the transmitters, but because receivers are scattered all over the ground AWAY from the transmitter, they will get a rather good return. Again, the results from the receivers are transmitted back to the central command center. This system would be far more accurate, and could be used to guide in passive radar guided missiles. The cost of the transmitters is tiny... and they could be used for civilian applications, like cell phone networks, or even television relays.

The last system also ties in with our alternative to GPS. With the location of the transmitters calculated precisely already using GPS, it would be possible for someone, using a handheld device, to triangulate their position using the ground based transmitters rather than space based ones. This would be extremely useful in times of war, as Chardonayan strategic doctrine calls for the immediate nullification of hostile satellites.

ooc, I checked out the Hypergeometric, Self-Cancelling Doppler Effect, Atmospheric Deflection, Gridded Radar (good god that's obcene), and it works... the thing is, the receivers wouldn't know how many times a particular signal had bounced before it was returned, or what angle it came at from the ionosphere. I think there's too much scattering for it to really be effective. Or, well, that's what my limited knowledge of physics and atmospheric effects on radation indicate. I'm really more of a fluids person.... in fact, the HSCDEADGTR works in a similar way to ours, it's just ours is cheaper annt takes less computing power. But is much much less acurate. That's why it's called Cheap and Dirty. We actually have other systems too... the 88mm rocket assisted cannon can fire shells with high albedo adhesive dust that's expelled with an explosive charge... the cloud lingers for quite some time. Any airplane that goes through it becomes EASILY detectable.

Let it be noted that Chardonay and Dbts/C Inc is entirely modern tech, with only a smattering of near modern tech. Everything we use is entirly possible, or would be if someoen were dumb enough to do it, with the notible exceptions of the 'uSuCk' class Ignore Tank (which is armed with a bigillion n00ks for dealing with irritating countries. We sell them for $1.50, I think, due to very advanced and silly manudfacturing techniques involving millions of genetically altered monkeys... don't ask) and our genetic engineering projects... which even we don't take seriously (though the idea of a skunk that sprays serin gas is simply too good to completely ignore).

OOC: Actually the recievers know in advance how many times the signal will bounce because of the self-cancelling doppler effect, which causes a signal to change drastically once it hits a certain range, we know that range in advance so once the altered signal returns we can tell it hit a certain distance. The angle it hit the ionosphere is known because we have directional antennas and knowledge of which ionosphere layer reflects which frequency. The scattering is dealt with by using focused radar beams rather than broad waves, and the overlapping signals ensure a high resolution. When you say cheap and dirty you mean it, because our system is still prohibitively expensive :-D. Anyway, good show.

IC: As the convention began to wind down for the day Josef had to say he felt disappointed at the lack of trade and brainstorming that was going on, the so called big delegates like Raysia were just putting up static displays and letting people window shop. Not even one dogfight challenge had erupted amongst the pilots, nor competitive tests against eachothers technology.

Alexi Antonev strolled over to the Sileetris booth. "I couldn't help but notice that you picked up one of our pamphlets. DO you have any suggestoins for our anti stealth system? and we are also in the market for an effective SAM that we can produce ourselves (ooc modern tech). we don't particularly like the patriot, but it's really the best commonly available missile."

Dr. Cu'ong finished examining the pamphlets on the way up to her hotel room that evening. She rather liked Chardonnay's Stealth-defeating radar arrangement-it followed lines of research her own office had been pursuing as an expansion on the IVIS ground-based vehicle systems.
Theirs was, she noted, a cleaner and more carefully thought out Air Defense.
She filed it for "Purchase/Possible". The system was less expensive than the system Sileetris was showing-and open to more refinements and alterations, since it wasn't as black-boxed.
She took a shower, and went to bed.

down below...

Commodore Trung sat in the hotel lounge area, getting piss-drunk. Damn Cu'ong Woman! Fishing for proof the NK-1 Concept was already outdated, and she FOUND it! he fumed silently. The Scientist had opposed funding for the new missile in every report from the An-Loc Aerospace Development Centre-the Navy's Baby was, it turned out, Aborted on Delivery.
"More Scotch." he said to the barkeep, who poured cheerfully enough.
Well... I guess tomorrow, we show them OUR wares, and watch as someone else tears them apart... he watched the screen of the bar's television, and drank his drink.
For a Scientist, she's too much of a damn beaurocrat... no vision... who am I kidding? Everyone else here is showing high-end prototypes, and we bring a system that's main selling point is that it's easy to fix...
He paid the barman, stood up, and realized he wasn't quite drunk enough yet-he could still walk without reeling.
Dammit... he stalked up to his room, passing a pair of fighter-pilots on his way.

As the day winds down, Raysia decides to unveil their concept for their new UCAV.

Dr. Amulek smiles as he pops open a fancy briefcase. Inside the briefcase is actually a plasma screen monitor and a PDA computer.

He turns the screen on, and immediately a short repeating demo video begins playing from the PDA. Some techno music begins playing quietly as Amulek adjusts the screen to show the other delegates.

"For the longest time, Raysia has depended on Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicles (UCAVs) for it's defense forces and massive strike forces. These planes provide air superiority that is cheap, effective, and does not cost lives. But, if you've been following us, we've been using the same UCAVs for the last decade.

"Well, that's all about to change, because we are currently in the final development stages of our new UCAV, the RF-27!"

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/gucav.jpg

"As you can guess, this has the standard features of any Raysian UCAV... Thrust vectoring engine, Brother telemetry systems, Multi-Function Camera with IR and Motion Tracking, Next level AI, et cetera et cetera... What's so special about this little guy?"

"With technologies in Aerospace evolving quickly, we have developed this frame to be far more economical than the RF-12. It is light, yet finds room to house 4 .50-Calibur cannons with just under 200 rounds of ammunition, and even still have the lift capacity to carry 6000 lbs of payload.

"The truely remarkable feature of this quick attack craft is it's ability to perform rough landings and take-offs. It's frame is sturdy and light enough, it's gear is strong enough, and it's engines are poweful enough, to deploy this craft into the air from a dirt road!

"The RF-12, when produced, will be the ultimate tool for any resistance force or secret outpost. This unmanned marvel can land and take-off in any place a Piston-Engine 20th century plane could!

"We are working on a manned plane with the same ability, but we were only able to make a working model at a UCAV scale, with it's weight and size.

"One question on your mind might be why we would use this over a VTOL like a Harrier or Su-37 E-Type, and the two-part answer is, first, that the control needed for a VTOL is far too great to trust to an AI, and second because it makes this plane far more economical.

"With a top-speed of mach 1.8, this plane can dogfight mostly anything your enemy will throw at you, and also works well at low-speeds as an anti-tank attacker.

"We will reveal more secrets about this excellent new creation, as well as others, as the conference continues"

OOC: Sileetris, sorry I missed the explanation, but back on page 3 you arrived and landed backwards... how did you do that?

ooc I realize the pamphlet titles are a little cryptic, so here's an expansion on all of them, except stealth and the GPS alternative. That's expanded enough.

Successor to the Il-2 Shturmovik - a potential design we have for a robust, low flying strike aircraft with swiveling wings, thrust vectoring, either a 30mm chaingun or a 75mm cannon, and a large payload

Is the TDB really Dead? - The posibility of reviving the Torpedo Bomber using UAVs. Shi[s only really die when they are holed below the waterline. So why not use a disposable torpedo bomber?

Ship Killers - The current generation of antishipping missiles are incapable of destroying heavy surface combattants, in this pamphlet we investigate using kamakazi drones with LARGE payloads and tactical nuclear weapons as ship killers.

Air/Water interface research -Chardponay's supercavitation project recently bore fruit, and we are now selling supercavicating rocket pods and gun turrets to be used in helicopters for killing torpedos and mines.

ABM Systems, what might actually work? Hitting missiles with missiles is really really hard, especially when the missile you're trying to hit isn't broadcasting 'hit me, hit me' emmissions and isn't spin stablized. THis pamphlet investigte the posibilites of using low teild tactical nukes or EMP devices in destroying ICBMs.

First Strike Satellite Slayers - If Chardonay were ever to go to war with another nation, our first targets would be their datalites. We would take them out using many nuclear or conventioal submunitoins carried in a civilian Triton rocket.

When we say Theatre Air Defence, we mean Theatre Air Defence - with our improved stealth detection tech, chardonay needs to find a way to kill the planes it's found. Without a good SAM system (we are in the market for one) we've had to fall back on the 88mm rocket assisted anti aircraft cannon (88mm for historical reasons....) and a organ gun style rocket launcher. Now we're working on a semi guided low yeild tactical nuclear anti aircraft rocket. DOn't worry, there's no fallout. It's only 10 tons.

As Branson finishes talking to the Sileetris representative, he wanders over to the Zoogiedom rep.

"Good evening, I would like to ask if my corporation is permitted to bring naval equipment, although not strictly aerospace, falls under the field of point air defence."

Abdullah smiled and said:"Impressive, very impressive. I will personally recommend this plane to the ASAF as the replacement for our aging F-15s. And about the Spear, is it a good replacement for the AIM-54 Phoenix? We got good medium and short-range missiles, but we still need a long-range missile."
OOC: Its here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=63712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600&sid=f1d94b809e26e1751d09e7e2e5e85cc6). Just scroll down if necessaary, and you'll find the info about the origional version and the missile.
However, for the export version, I will probably make a secondary stats for that, but it shouldn;t be much different. Just that the speed is decreased by a tiny bit, so does the operation altitude, the electronics (though not that degraded, the radar range will take a reduction), and the likes -- the plane ICly is supposed to be Omzian Air Force-only, but a decision to export it to approved country was approved after the company was awarded a huge contract by a fellow ally.

IC:

Vorans continued his takeover as he replied in a friendly fashion. "Of course, it is one of our newest project, fresh out of the oven -- if you know what I mean. As much as in the air force ourselves it isn't really intended to replace the F-15s as a tactical fighter, this bird does has high hopes. Hopefully with additional funding an overhaul could be in the works soon.

The Spear could be considered as a replacement for the AIM-54 as it can be installed onto aircraft such as the F-14D Tomcat with slight modifications, although it was much designed as a long-range interception missile carried exclusively by the Rapier. However, it is a good candidate, and can be used against a wide variety fo targets, including bombers, cruise missiles, or even other fighters. It also boasts a dual-mode seeker, advanced electric counter-counter measures, and low detection capabilities, aside using a hybrid rocket-scramjet engine for maximum efficency."

General Sharif listened closely and responded:

"Well, we only use the F-15 as an interceptor. We got another plane as a tactical fighter. The ASAF will send you a message if we decide to procure a number of Rapiers. (OOC: I'll TG you) I'm authorized to procure a test batch of 12 Spears, so you can send them per ship to the port of Kusair. For now, we are going to check out some other interesting products here."

Early morning, the next day, at the Airfield...

Dr. Cu'ong looked around the gathering, and pulled the covers off Nuevo Kowloon's display.
"Thank you all for coming. Yesterday, many of you demonstrated some amazing things-fighters that fly backward, AI controlled unmanned vehicles, advanced sensor suite, and even an airborne point-defense gun.
By comparison, I'm afraid what I have to show you isn't nearly as amazing as all of that-but, our offering to the international market this year should interest at least some of you-the ones that have to balance their budgets." She smiled, and some of the men and women chuckled.

[ooc-sorry, don't have an image for this one finished yet.]

"This, is the HNK project demonstrator, basically, it's going to be our standard utility helicopter, and is already in service with Third Marine Division alongside the attack variant. If it looks familiar, it should-it's a converted UH-1N. Notice anything different?"
Some of the gathering looked at the helo-and it became obvious-there was no tail rotor, and the tailboom sat almost a meter higher at the base, and ended in a series of slotted vents behind the horizontal stabs.
"Um...It's a NoTAR?" someone asked, and giggled.
She nodded, "Indeed- but you should look more closely-note the bleed-air ducting around the rotor hub, the size of the aft ducts, and..." she walked over, and pulled a piece of something off the tailboom. "The fact that it's already been damaged in combat." The hole in the tailboom was thirty millimeters across, and it wasn't the only one.
"A hit to this point in a conventional tail-rotored design, or even the basic Hughes patent NoTar design, would crash the bird. My colleague Commodore Trung and I arrived here from the ship in this particular helicopter without so much as a torque-twitch." one of the assistants walked over to the gathered assembly of delegates, and handed out samples of a cloth-like substance, marked "Alumastik"- four-inch material samples with a light side and a dark side, and the consistency of dense, waxed, cloth.
"Field repairs to a high-pressure air system would blow ordinary tape away, and a field-patch like this is often difficult to remove without cutting into the actual structure. The tape's not the thing, though-you can buy it openly, it's radar-transparent, and costs about 7 cents a foot to produce... It's part of the grounding gear. This modification, this NoTar system, has, when combined with a simplified, downrated gearbox, lowered maintenance and operating costs-as in, costs you expend keeping the birds flying and the pilots trained, by Eighty-Five percent in the first two years of use-most of that being in fuel and hydraulics. Not bad for something that costs one hundered man-hours to make the conversion for, and seven thousand U.S. Dollars to build from raw stock to finished assembly."
That got her audience's attention. she wasn't finished though.

"The bleed-air from the rotor hub baffles and mixes cold exterior air with hot exhaust gasses." she said,
The engines gave a faint whine, as the four-bladed, graded-sweep rotors began to turn. "This has the side benefit of reducing engine noise, and rotor noise." Her voice didn't get any louder, and they didn't have any difficulty hearing her, as the chopper spooled up one hundered feet behind her.
"You will notice that it does not have the Whok-Whok sound as the rotors achieve lift-off speed. There are two reasons-one, the transmission does not go into "Neutral" as each blade reaches the six-o-clock position-without a vertically located rotating mass at that point, the gearbox is simpler, and so you don't have it. The rotors are four-bladed, this was chosen in order to allow nearly a foot to be removed from their overall length-the tips never reach the speed of sound." a low hum, and the helicopter lifted off, causing a brief surge of local wind.
"Manueverability and speed increases are noticeable, as is increased range, and..." The helicopter swung outward, and nosed almost straight into the air, shimmying up as a salmon climing a fish-ladder-a maneuver that is difficult even with the AH-64.

"Damage resistance! It's not armour per-se, but the linings are of a polymer that is self-sealing in the manner of a fuel tank, while the flight deck and cargo bay are lined with composite blankets between the panels to absorb small arms fire, and the windows are triple-layered plexiglass."
The helo turned, buzzed the crowd at low altitude-the wind kicked up being almost louder than the sound of the engines and rotor.
It landed, and the pilot got out.
"Take a look at our documentation, it's available on CD-Roms here, along with samples of the sealing material, and the 'copter itself is available for your perusal, Commodore Trung will be happy to provide any one of you with an in-cockpit demonstration flight... Folks, we may not have the fastest, or the coolest thing here-but our Aviation Products can lower the costs for both your civilian, and Military, operations, and that's a good way to be able to afford the more grandiose and impressive systems available here at the conference. Thank you for your attention, I'll be over there, having some breakfast, if you find you have any questions that need to be answered, or the Commodore will answer any questions you might have about the bird itself."

As Branson finishes talking to the Sileetris representative, he wanders over to the Zoogiedom rep.

"Good evening, I would like to ask if my corporation is permitted to bring naval equipment, although not strictly aerospace, falls under the field of point air defence."

"Sure," said @@randomname@@ (Wish I could do that here, solves all my uncreativity problems). "If it relates to air defense, it's definitely permitted..."

OOC: Ahck...to many posts :P Ah well...I'll make sense of all this some day.

As Branson finishes talking to the Sileetris representative, he wanders over to the Zoogiedom rep.

"Good evening, I would like to ask if my corporation is permitted to bring naval equipment, although not strictly aerospace, falls under the field of point air defence."

"Sure," said @@randomname@@ (Wish I could do that here, solves all my uncreativity problems). "If it relates to air defense, it's definitely permitted..."

OOC: Ahck...to many posts :P Ah well...I'll make sense of all this some day.

Dr. Antonev looked admiringly at the Huey. "Very impressive... would it be possible to aquire teh technology to use in our own helicopters? We have two helocopter designs which would find this extremely uselful. We cold begin a crash program in NoTAR ourselves, but would prefer to actually get it from you instead... as for the feild repare tape, the nonly thing I have against it is that we didn't come up with it first! Cheap and Dirty indeed...Perhaps we can come to a deal... or even a future colaberation."

ooc: anyone going to comment on my new plane? lol

Dr. Antonev looked admiringly at the Huey. "Very impressive... would it be possible to aquire teh technology to use in our own helicopters? We have two helocopter designs which would find this extremely uselful. We cold begin a crash program in NoTAR ourselves, but would prefer to actually get it from you instead... as for the feild repare tape, the nonly thing I have against it is that we didn't come up with it first! Cheap and Dirty indeed...Perhaps we can come to a deal... or even a future colaberation."

Dr. Cu'ong smiled, and offered Dr. Antonev the seat next to her. "Certainly, we didn't just bring it to show off! The truth is, my Nation's looking for foreign investment capital pretty heavily at the moment... would you like to pick up the base research, or do you want to pursue a collaboration on your conversion programme?"

Dr. Antonev smiled and leaned back in the chair. "We weren't thinking of converting them at all... they function quite well at the moment and tthe cost involved in changing a helocopter from one system to the other would be prohibative. We were thinking more along the lines of coming out with a new version of each that is specifically designed to take advantage of the system. Especially the assault transport helicopter; the gunship currently has a tandem rotor. Neither of them are extremely special... The assault one is based on a Hind design, while the heavy gunship is sort of a melange... both are low oservable, quiet, and damage resistant, but with this new system, they'd be far quieter, more manouverable, and even tougher. If you're willing, we's ether like to hire out specialists from you, or wortk togeteher on a completely new project."

Dr. Antonev smiled and leaned back in the chair. "We weren't thinking of convertint them at all... they function quite well at the moment and tthe cost involved in changing a helocopter from one system to the other would be prohibative. We were thinkingmore along the lines of coming uut with a new version of each that is specifically designed to take advantage of the system. Especially the assault transport helicopter, the gunship currently has a tandem rotor. neither of them are extremely special... The assault one is based on a Hind design, while the heavy gunship is sort of a melange... both are low oservable, quiet, and damage resistant, but with this new system, they'd be far quieter, more manouverable, and even tougher. If you're willing, we's ether like to hire out specialists from you, or wortk togetehr on a wholey new project."

She smiled, and said, "That sounds quite interesting-I'm sure Commodore Trung will be quite upset, but as the head of my department, I've been given full authority to negotiate new contracts-he doesn't have that. So... How much are you willing to put up for a joint-development project? I'm supposed to be fishing for outside investments and JOA's (Joint Operating Agreements), so I can't farm my people out individually at this time."

Why on earth would he be upset? This is mutually benificial. As a demonstration peice, the Huey is wonderful, it simply doesn't ahve the speed or firepower for today's battlefeild. In civilian capacities, it wold be perfect.... we may yet buy some for that purpose.

As for funding.... I'm sure we can spare several hundred million, possibly even several billion if we get the region onboard. My superior happens to be the director of research for the Unforgiven region so if nessisary, we can gain access to a rather large budget. In that case, however the research would belong to the Unforgiven region as a whole.... but if you decide you need that much funding, we can supply you with, anually,a maximum of 10 billion. We'll need results for that kind of expenditure, however.

Quadruple post*

*The ARSB delegates sat behind their empty table...*

"Those assholes at Materiel Command are gonna pay for this... All of our equipment was supposed to be here, what? Nearly a week ago?"

"Yeah..."

"And look at this! We've had to resort to selling nachos and soft drinks..."
The major waves his hand at a nacho cheese dispenser, a bunch of plastic containers, a giant box of chips, a bunch of cups and a soft drink dispenser. "Those dirty little assholes. Well, at least we're one of the more popular booths..."


Marshal Borechenko, a leading commander in the air force leaned back and let out a sigh... He spotted Raysia's little set-up aways away, he picked up his glasses... "Hmm... UCAVs..."

Major Stanislav looked over at the Marshal... "What?"

"UCAVs", the marshal said as he pointed to Raysia's booth...

Stanislav glanced to it and looked back to the Marshal... "Uhh... So?"

The Marshal slightly snapped out his 'daze' and shook his head some... "Hmm, why the hell don't we have anything like that in the air force?"

The major shrugged... "I have no idea, I fly aircraft, you command/design/whatever them...'

"Oh... yeah... That's right."

The major looked at the display again... "It is a very nice aircraft although you'd have to have alot of them, just to get the effectiveness of one of our fighter bombers. I suppose thats why they're cheap. But the maintenance costs must be catastrophically high... But overall, they don't seem to bad. They'd be useful, to us, as limited light attack vehicles in non-conventional roles."

The marshal boredly takes a piece of scrap paper and makes a small paper airplane... He sticks a sharpened pencil in it and writes UCAV on it... It flies... It can inflict damage... It has no pilot... Therefore its an Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle. He then sets the plane on the top of the nacho cheese dispenser...

OOC-Yeah, I forgot my delegates' names and since I'm too lazy to check what they were, I just made new ones...

*The ARSB delegates sat behind their empty table...*

"Those assholes at Materiel Command are gonna pay for this... All of our equipment was supposed to be here, what? Nearly a week ago?"

"Yeah..."

"And look at this! We've had to resort to selling nachos and soft drinks..."
The major waves his hand at a nacho cheese dispenser, a bunch of plastic containers, a giant box of chips, a bunch of cups and a soft drink dispenser. "Those dirty little assholes. Well, at least we're one of the more popular booths..."


Marshal Borechenko, a leading commander in the air force leaned back and let out a sigh... He spotted Raysia's little set-up aways away, he picked up his glasses... "Hmm... UCAVs..."

Major Stanislav looked over at the Marshal... "What?"

"UCAVs", the marshal said as he pointed to Raysia's booth...

Stanislav glanced to it and looked back to the Marshal... "Uhh... So?"

The Marshal slightly snapped out his 'daze' and shook his head some... "Hmm, why the hell don't we have anything like that in the air force?"

The major shrugged... "I have no idea, I fly aircraft, you command/design/whatever them...'

"Oh... yeah... That's right."

The major looked at the display again... "It is a very nice aircraft although you'd have to have alot of them, just to get the effectiveness of one of our fighter bombers. I suppose thats why they're cheap. But the maintenance costs must be catastrophically high... But overall, they don't seem to bad. They'd be useful, to us, as limited light attack vehicles in non-conventional roles."

The marshal boredly takes a piece of scrap paper and makes a small paper airplane... He sticks a sharpened pencil in it and writes UCAV on it... It flies... It can inflict damage... It has no pilot... Therefore its an Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle. He then sets the plane on the top of the nacho cheese dispenser...

OOC-Yeah, I forgot my delegates' names and since I'm too lazy to check what they were, I just made new ones...

*The ARSB delegates sat behind their empty table...*

"Those assholes at Materiel Command are gonna pay for this... All of our equipment was supposed to be here, what? Nearly a week ago?"

"Yeah..."

"And look at this! We've had to resort to selling nachos and soft drinks..."
The major waves his hand at a nacho cheese dispenser, a bunch of plastic containers, a giant box of chips, a bunch of cups and a soft drink dispenser. "Those dirty little assholes. Well, at least we're one of the more popular booths..."


Marshal Borechenko, a leading commander in the air force leaned back and let out a sigh... He spotted Raysia's little set-up aways away, he picked up his glasses... "Hmm... UCAVs..."

Major Stanislav looked over at the Marshal... "What?"

"UCAVs", the marshal said as he pointed to Raysia's booth...

Stanislav glanced to it and looked back to the Marshal... "Uhh... So?"

The Marshal slightly snapped out his 'daze' and shook his head some... "Hmm, why the hell don't we have anything like that in the air force?"

The major shrugged... "I have no idea, I fly aircraft, you command/design/whatever them...'

"Oh... yeah... That's right."

The major looked at the display again... "It is a very nice aircraft although you'd have to have alot of them, just to get the effectiveness of one of our fighter bombers. I suppose thats why they're cheap. But the maintenance costs must be catastrophically high... But overall, they don't seem to bad. They'd be useful, to us, as limited light attack vehicles in non-conventional roles."

The marshal boredly takes a piece of scrap paper and makes a small paper airplane... He sticks a sharpened pencil in it and writes UCAV on it... It flies... It can inflict damage... It has no pilot... Therefore its an Unmanned Combat Aerial Vehicle. He then sets the plane on the top of the nacho cheese dispenser...

OOC-Yeah, I forgot my delegates' names and since I'm too lazy to check what they were, I just made new ones...

ooc: ouch!

OOC: Heh, we haven't got much for now either yet, haven't had time to present.

IC:

Major Donnel finally unveiled the makeshift Zoogiedom table for display, showcasing a gargantuan...one aircraft. With Zoogiedom's other four aircraft on the side panels, with a very clear unwritten *hint, hint* attatched to the 'See airfield for details' (Too lazy to display it here, I'm probably going to just say 'see link for details' OOC to not clog up the thread, they're fairly long descriptions), the focus was clearly on the center aircraft.

http://home.ripway.com/2004-1/54396/khopesh2.jpg

"This is the, ah, latest project of Star Aerospace Systems - without a name or designation yet, this project is the pride and joy of Star Aerospace, mainly because the Zoogiedom defense agency actually awarded Star a contract, ensuring the prologned survival of the flailing aircraft industry.

(Donnel was a Zoogie Aerospace test pilot; rival to Star)

"Right. Anyways, this project, currently codenamed Khopesh, is a light, single-enginge forward swept wing design. It's designed to build on X-29 technology, and basically become a very maintanable, cheap aircraft able to get up into the sky quickly and outmanuever anything out there. (I'm modern, Sileetris) while still carrying a fairly extensive load - eight missiles with a centerline hardpoint for a fuel tank, or possibly other store.

"As in almost all Zoogiedom air technologies, it features a thrust vectoring engine, fully automated or manual, 3D, and complete - at least for the domestic versions we've got planned. It's in terminal prototype stages, but has already completed a tremendous milestone, taking off vertically with nearly 5000 lbs of stores, going supersonic, and landing the same way.

"For a cannon, Star has indicated it will use a derivative of the Zoogie Aerospace D3CS combat system and a single 20mm cannon with a fair number of rounds, although this is not final."

Why on earth would he be upset? This is mutually benificial. As a demonstration peice, the Huey is wonderful, it simply doesn't ahve the speed or firepower for today's battlefeild. In civilian capacities, it wold be perfect.... we may yet buy some for that purpose.

As for funding.... I'm sure we can spare several hundred million, possibly even several billion if we get the region onboard. My superior happens to be the director of research for the Unforgiven region so if nessisary, we can gain access to a rather large budget. In that case, however the research would belong to the Unforgiven region as a whole.... but if you decide you need that much funding, we can supply you with, anually,a maximum of 10 billion. We'll need results for that kind of expenditure, however.

She sighed, "Trung's pissed because one of his research-babies turned out to be obselete on the drawing board, and he's a jet-jock at heart, that's all... I don't think you'll need several hundered million to develop the aircraft you're proposing-the work should only take about five million to do, presuming you're interested in using our design for a basis in the development phase-I take it you already have the rest of the airframe worked out satisfactorily?"

He nodded.

She smiled, "Then it's a matter of simple licensing-since you're using Eastern Bloc measurements, we'll have to convert the formulas in the base engineering to metric from inch-pattern so that your engineers and tooling people can set up the production lines, and a simple annual fee from your manufacturer for the rights to produce the ducting-say, fifteen percent of the final sale price per unit over seventeen years?" she stirred creamer into her coffee.

He looked...doubtful.

She shook her head, "Not per aircraft, heavens no! Per tail boom. The base engineering can fit it onto any conventionally laid-out, turbine powered helo currently in planning or production-so long as the tail-boom is either mounted behind the engine, and can be moved into a suitable alignment without compromising structural integrity. Our production costs on the Huey and Cobra models is about seven thousand per unit. We did a test build on a Blackhawk we bought from Phyrric used, it ran about eight, because the engines are mounted so far apart, and balancing the exhausts took some additional changes, while the rotor-shroud was a bit more difficult given the Sikorsky's rotor hub design... we haven't been inclined to try it on Russian designed birds-but it shouldn't be much of a problem other than relocating the exhaust outlets and changing the gear-boxes so that the engines aren't run overspeed in flight. The real trick is to figure out the change to rotor cambre...and translating it to measurements your Metric-based manufacturers can use... as for the tape, that's a product-licensing fee, say a five-cent royalty per thousand feet? the formula's simple enough to make, once you know how. I actually developed the stuff for our Space Programme, but it's so inexpensive to manufacture it's going into commercial production in a few months. By next year, it'll be for sale in every hardware store in my country, and probably a staple in the HVAC industry throughout the Indochinese region."

He laughed, "How much?" He asked.

She shrugged, "A dollar a roll should handle the actual development costs, a buck-fifty to handle the inevitable enviro-sadist induced costs in most of the rest of the world."

Antonev grinned,"We don't have problems with enviromentalists. But anyway... rather than pay royalties on every helocopter we make, we'd much prefer to pay a lump sum up front. It... makes some acounting problems less of a plroblem. And from waht you've said, it sounds like you need an uinfusion of cash now. So how about we pay 1 billion in initial development and modification costs, and billion after the modifications are completed. That's more money than you're likely to see out of the tail boom royalty agreement. The thing is... we'd like to get everything underway as soon as possible, have a fleet of the helocopters in, say 8 years. I think that the agreement I've proposed allows for a crash program to be implimented?we're also willing to pay 1 biillion for production rights to the tape... with no strings attached other than we won't resell it. As well, while we reseve the right to sell the helecopters and sell producion rights to the helecopters, we will refuse to allow the purchaser to reverse engineer the system."

He took out a hip flask from his pocket and took a belt from it. And her curious look, he grimaced and muttered, 'Antacid. I hate teaching."

He looked at her sidewas, "would you mind telling me about Trungs failed project? I couldn't seem to find any mention of it in your litereature. We have an interest in failed and obsolete systems... did you know that our main short range flak tank is built on surplus T-34 chassis? They handled the conversion to twin 25mm bushmaster cannons quite well, and with sandbags piled high ont hem have proven remarkably resistant to helecopter cannon fire."

OOC:
Raysia(and anyone else interested): Relic Edition Valefors have the odd characteristic of being able to land backwards because of 2 features. The first are the tesla turbine intake boosters, which are normally used to pump more air into the engine for higher performance, and when reversed allow for superior breaking. The second is a series of small gyroscopes usually used to fine-tune manuevering without changing the flight surfaces. While the tesla turbines were being made, it was discovered that if punched to full power they could each put out as much as 10,000 lbs. of thrust(there are two of them) backwards, this was regarded as pretty cool, but unncessary because they would never need to use that much: if they blew into the main engines that hard, the main engine would overload, and if they blew backwards that hard during landing the plane would stall dead. So it was ignored. When the gyroscopes were being implemented, a maneuver was invented that allowed the plane to turn fully and fly backwards for a while, but it resulted in an engine stall only the tesla turbine could correct by pumping air in to get the started again.

One day a test pilot pulled the maneuver and stalled his engines. He pushed the tesla turbine switch and waited for his engines to restart, but they didn't. He was on the verge of panic until he realized that somehow his plane hadn't stalled; he was flying backwards. It turns out that when he hit the switch for the turbines, they were set for landing instead of air pumping. Naturally all the test pilots soon tried the same thing, resulting in some funny antics, all trying to one-up eachother. The pinnacle of it all came when a daring young lad managed to do it at a really low altitude, but having no way of restarting the engines in time, was forced to land. The rest is history.
http://www.ed.gov/news/newsletters/achiever/images/did-you-know.gif
The maneuver, by the way, was called 'Mooning' after the popular act of flashing ones buttocks at someone. The landing application of it was called 'Moon walking'. Ground crews have a joke about pilots flying ass backwards, which is even more funny because in this case the back of the plane is moving forwards.

Antonev grinned,"We don't have problems with enviromentalists. But anyway... rather than pay royalties on every helocopter we make, we'd much prefer to pay a lump sum up front. It... makes some acounting problems less of a plroblem. And from waht you've said, it sounds like you need an uinfusion of cash now. So how about we pay 1 billion in initial development and modification costs, and billion after the modifications are completed. That's more money than you're likely to see out of the tail boom royalty agreement. The thing is... we'd like to get everything underway as soon as possible, have a fleet of the helocopters in, say 8 years. I think that the agreement I've proposed allows for a crash program to be implimented?we're also willing to pay 1 biillion for production rights to the tape... with no strings attached other than we won't resell it. As well, while we reseve the right to sell the helecopters and sell producion rights to the helecopters, we will refuse to allow the purchaser to reverse engineer the system."


He took out a hip flask from his pocket and took a belt from it. And her curious look, he grimaced and muttered, 'Antacid. I hate teaching."

He looked at her sidewas, "would you mind telling me about Trungs failed project? I couldn't seem to find any mention of it in your litereature. We have an interest in failed and obsolete systems... did you know that our main short range flak tank is built on surplus T-34 chassis? They handled the conversion to twin 25mm bushmaster cannons quite well, and with sandbags piled high ont hem have proven remarkably resistant to helecopter cannon fire."

She smiled, and said, "That's a deal, then. I don't care if you sell the rights to the tape to whomever you wish-sooner or later, it will be reinvented somewhere else. Commodore Trung wants a next-generation model of the NK-1 HARM-one with more range. We already build the NK-1, and a ground-based NK-3 for Short Range defense-he wants a version that can push a twenty-five kilo Depleted Uranium penetrator out to two-hundered miles. The prototypes we've tested might work on a Strategic Bombing platform like a B-58, but they're far, far, too heavy and bulky for fighters-even using highly reactive solid fuels and two-stage construction... and then, there's the seeker heads. HARMS are dumb-they're supposed to be, you know? See the signal, charge the signal. Stupid so they're hard to fool. He wants a "Smart HARM" that can distinguish between a refracted signal and a signal generator, it's technically feasable, but it's far, far, too costly for a weapon that has to hit the target physically-and that AMS system can eat one in quick-time, it's just too hot and noisy to avoid it..."

He looked interested, and sipped his "antacid"

OOC: Just as long as you realize that having the jet engines run backwards means the jet engines choke off, if not run backwards and fry your testla turbine if configured wrong.

OOC: Thats the problem with it, it stalls the engines by default, our jet engines can't run backwards. Its just funny to watch and crack jokes about.

OOC: Thats the problem with it, it stalls the engines by default, our jet engines can't run backwards. Its just funny to watch and crack jokes about.And most importantly, what happens to the jet turbines? I don't think you can change the angle of the turbine blades... so when that testla thing starts flowing backwards, dor a moment you have a vacuum inside the engine, and up until you have the engine wound down and running the turbine in the opposite direction, you got about 10-30 seconds of zero electricity and zero thrust.

So... what do you do for power to the testla while the engines are chocked, and what do you do during the time it takes to get that jet turbine's blades to spin the other direction?

She smiled, and said, "That's a deal, then. I don't care if you sell the rights to the tape to whomever you wish-sooner or later, it will be reinvented somewhere else. Commodore Trung wants a next-generation model of the NK-1 HARM-one with more range. We already build the NK-1, and a ground-based NK-3 for Short Range defense-he wants a version that can push a twenty-five kilo Depleted Uranium penetrator out to two-hundered miles. The prototypes we've tested might work on a Strategic Bombing platform like a B-58, but they're far, far, too heavy and bulky for fighters-even using highly reactive solid fuels and two-stage construction... and then, there's the seeker heads. HARMS are dumb-they're supposed to be, you know? See the signal, charge the signal. Stupid so they're hard to fool. He wants a "Smart HARM" that can distinguish between a refracted signal and a signal generator, it's technically feasable, but it's far, far, too costly for a weapon that has to hit the target physically-and that AMS system can eat one in quick-time, it's just too hot and noisy to avoid it..."

He looked interested, and sipped his "antacid"
Antonev WAS intereted. He could think of a dozen applications off hand. "Just how bulky and heavy is it? Is there any reason it couldn't be ground launched instead? Howfast does it go... the HARm type weapons werwe origionally very fast, and Imagin this wone would be too, if it has a DU warhead. Also... Point defence systems ahve trouble dealing with longrod penetrators. Most of the AMS systems I've seen ehre will only work under ideal conditions.... I'd really like to see the research for thew missileIs there any reason why the warhead HAS to be DU?."

OOC: They are powered by kinetic energy batteries(info somewhere on here (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/techcontracts.htm)), so turning off the jet turbines doesn't cause the tesla turbines to lose power. I should mention that there are actually 3 tesla turbines on the plane: 1 in each intake, and 1 in the exhaust. The one in the back starts pumping air backwards, the jet engine stops combusting, and the ones in the front start pumping air out the front. We lose forward thrust immediately, get a tiny bit of backwards thrust(like 2 seconds) as the jets slow down, then get constant backwards thrust after about 8 seconds.

Its not a serious combat advantage, its just a funny side effect of several systems at work.

OOC: They are powered by kinetic energy batteries(info somewhere on here (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber/techcontracts.htm)), so turning off the jet turbines doesn't cause the tesla turbines to lose power. I should mention that there are actually 3 tesla turbines on the plane: 1 in each intake, and 1 in the exhaust. The one in the back starts pumping air backwards, the jet engine stops combusting, and the ones in the front start pumping air out the front. We lose forward thrust immediately, get a tiny bit of backwards thrust(like 2 seconds) as the jets slow down, then get constant backwards thrust after about 8 seconds.

Its not a serious combat advantage, its just a funny side effect of several systems at work.ooc: It takes 2 seconds to get a jet turbine running at tens of thousands of RPMs to drop down to zero and star spinning backwards? If the blades are still turning in the wrong direction, you won't be sucking any air... Not to mention the fact that your testla pumps would have to waste force spinning the turbine.

Antonev WAS intereted. He could think of a dozen applications off hand. "Just how bulky and heavy is it? Is there any reason it couldn't be ground launched instead? Howfast does it go... the HARm type weapons werwe origionally very fast, and Imagin this wone would be too, if it has a DU warhead. Also... Point defence systems ahve trouble dealing with longrod penetrators. Most of the AMS systems I've seen ehre will only work under ideal conditions.... I'd really like to see the research for thew missileIs there any reason why the warhead HAS to be DU?."

Miss Cu'ong nodded, "It works fine from a ground-launch, but it weighs in about ten kilos heavier than an 18 inch Naval Torpedo, and only has about fifty miles range under ideal conditions-way too short for a good Air-Defense system, and it's too bulky for an antitank weapon... We use a lot of DU in our ordnance-everything from rifle bullets up-because we have a pretty decently sized nuclear power industry on a closed-loop fuel-cycle, combined with a lot of Uranium mining-it ends up being cheaper for us to use than most of the other heavy elements, like lead."
he looked a bit surprised.
She continued, "for the HARM application, DU keeps its inertia up after the burn-cycle is finished better than, say, tungsten or stainless does-less velocity loss over distance means it hits harder when it arrives. Since you're talking about a target that might be engineered to take flak, that impact/penetration/energy transfer needs to have as much releasable energy behind it as possible." She set the coffee cup down, "Depleted uranium's soft-so it deforms easily on impact, driving the energy transfer up and increasing the force imparted to the target-in the case of an AAM version, we use a hollow structure, because it's more likely to do things like ripping a wing off, or pulverizing the whole airframe, than just punching a clean hole."

Antonev looked a little confused "I thought you said it projected a DU penetrator 200 miles earlier? Anyway, I know all about DU's advantages... almost all of our weapon sysytems use it too. We had to build nuclear reactors, not to provide power, but to do something with the enriched uranium that was left over! Remind me to tell you about our 40mm APDS-FS telescopic anti tank rifle. But we use it because it's HARD not because it deforms. It's one of the hardest materials available, harder than tugstan. And it's incendiary. And I wasn't thinking of using it as an Air defence weapon... If the range is in fact 200 miles, and not 50, we would be interested in it for naval applications. If it's only 50.... there's no reason why it would need to be that bulky. And I was wondering if the DU warhead could be replaced with an explosive or, another one of our favorite materials, a DU shell filled with thermite and a detinator. That would ahve the potential to burn all the way through a ship, from the top deck out the bottom. We have more effective AAMs, smaller ones too, but if it really has 200 mile range... The implications are impressive."

OOC: No, it takes around 8 seconds for constant backwards thrust to be achieved(just below your 10-30 sec estimate, because the RelicAeroSpace Magnum Charger Afterburning Turbojet(TM) is a very advanced engine). For 2 seconds we get backwards thrust as air is sucked out of the compressor. The remaining 6 seconds before the engine reverses has an almost neglible amount of backwards thrust from the rear facing air intakes*. When the tesla turbines engage, air intake and output are stopped dead, the air that is past the combustion chamber is bottled up in the space between the combustion chamber and the rear tesla turbine until the rear tesla turbine overcomes the power of the propulsion turbine. The air in the compressor is sucked backwards against the motion of the blades(slowing them down greatly) because the tesla turbine is several times more powerful than them. All of the slowdown is aided by magnetic breaks. Obviously it goes without saying that all this is very tough on the engine, which is a bad thing because it is very expensive(except for the chicken wire schrapnel protection).

*Between the compressor blades and the front tesla pump, there are rear-facing air intakes that can be opened and closed. The air coming from them in this case is in a tug of war between the compressor blades and the front tesla pump.

OOC: OK, now, final question, about your testla pumps.

Testla pumps have the distinct feature of a perpendicular intake and exhaust... how exaxtly do you mount such a thing at the front of an airplane engine?

And that feature, means air can only flow one way when being pumped... in through the y axis, out the x axis... and I'm pretty sure it's non-reversible, unless you're going to make it into a generator.

So two questions really... how do you put this 2-axis pump on a single-axis turbine, and how do you reverse a non-reversible pump?

Antonev looked a little confused "I thought you said it projected a DU penetrator 200 miles earlier? Anyway, I know all about DU's advantages... almost all of our weapon sysytems use it too. We had to build nuclear reactors, not to provide power, but to do something with the enriched uranium that was left over! Remind me to tell you about our 40mm APDS-FS telescopic anti tank rifle. But we use it because it's HARD not because it deforms. It's one of the hardest materials available, harder than tugstan. And it's incendiary. And I wasn't thinking of using it as an Air defence weapon... If the range is in fact 200 miles, and not 50, we would be interested in it for naval applications. If it's only 50.... there's no reason why it would need to be that bulky. And I was wondering if the DU warhead could be replaced with an explosive or, another one of our favorite materials, a DU shell filled with thermite and a detinator. That would ahve the potential to burn all the way through a ship, from the top deck out the bottom. We have more effective AAMs, smaller ones too, but if it really has 200 mile range... The implications are impressive."

She cocked an eyebrow. "Well... to tell the truth, it's accurate out to fifty-but the battery life on the guidance is only good to fifty. The damn engine will take it out to 200 at second-stage- but that's as an unguided rocket."

[ooc- pure DU is SOFT. It's actually closer to a daughter product and very much like lead only denser. DU Penetrators are hard because of what they're alloyed with-during the First Iraq war (1990-91), the DU Penetrators the Iraqis were issued weren't alloyed with Tungsten at the right levels, and went "Flat Tip"-skidding off most Abrams on the rare instances when they hit. Uranium itself decays radioactively into an isotope of Lead-it's one of the ways certain non-organic rocks are dated.]

ooc most pure elements are soft You only get them hard when you have substitutional, or preferably intersitial point defects. Lol, I wonder if anyone actually cold works uranium penitrators. that would be an irritating job. I think I have a new job for the boys in my penal colonies. I knew that about the alloying... I just never thought anyone would use a DU penetrator that wasn't alloyed It makes sence though, you want it to act more like a HESH round and less like a sabot, more shattering and ripping, less punching.. and woudln't some cromium also help harden it and reduce radiation? not that it's particularly radioactive, but it keeps the ecofascists off your back... I didn't know about the decay dating... though I guess it makes some sence... though how would you know what concentration of uranium there should be in a rock in the first place? do you measure the amount of uranium in a rock, compare it to the amount of lead, and then calculate how much uranium there must have been origionally using halflife formulai?

IC: "Why don't you reduce the mass of the warhead and put in a larger battery? Antonev asked, perplexed. "Or, hell, use a thermocouple to power it during the boost phase where there's a ;arge difference in temperature, and a smaller battery once it's gone balistic?. it's a passive sensor, it's not like it's going to take so much power. If you have a rocket that potentially has that kind of range... i'm sure you can think of something. If you can't, we certainly can, and will buy the research and prototypes off you."

"Thank you." Branson said to @@Randomname@@.

A large wooden crate was moved into the centre of the Taiwanese display by a forklift. It was a CIWS.


Dynasty CIWS
The Dynasty CIWS offers superior performance compared to today's CIWS. The Dynasty offers full-sphere capability, superior rates of fire, longer range, increased reliability, and quicker reloading. This is achieved by advances in electronic technology, superior software, larger and more effective rounds (30mm), and a longer, more powerful gun. The Dynasty relies on the MFR-2 radar for guidance. The reloading process is highly automated and take less than 20 seconds, compared to 5 minutes with the Phalanx. The high muzzle velocity is achieved by the installation of extensive cooling systems. Reaction time is also much shorter, due to modern computer systems and a more powerful motor for quicker movement.

Total Weight : 7,000kg
Muzzle velocity: 2,000m/s
Rate of fire: 4,200 per minute
Magazine: 3,000 rounds
Effective range: Up to 7km

Cost: $3 million

ooc most pure elements are soft You only get them hard when you have substitutional, or preferably intersitial point defects. Lol, I wonder if anyone actually cold works uranium penitrators. that would be an irritating job. I think I have a new job for the boys in my penal colonies. I knew that about the alloying... I just never thought anyone would use a DU penetrator that wasn't alloyed It makes sence though, you want it to act more like a HESH round and less like a sabot, more shattering and ripping, less punching.. and woudln't some cromium also help harden it and reduce radiation? not that it's particularly radioactive, but it keeps the ecofascists off your back... I didn't know about the decay dating... though I guess it makes some sence... though how would you know what concentration of uranium there should be in a rock in the first place? do you measure the amount of uranium in a rock, compare it to the amount of lead, and then calculate how much uranium there must have been origionally using halflife formulai?

Effectively, you measure how much of a specific isotope of Uranium there is, in relation to the known "Daughter Product" of that isotope. U-235 decays into Lead-207 (it takes 713 million years for half the quantity of isotope to decay, but that's what it decays into...)




IC: "Why don't you reduce the mass of the warhead and put in a larger battery? Antonev asked, perplexed. "Or, hell, use a thermocouple to power it during the boost phase where there's a ;arge difference in temperature, and a smaller battery once it's gone balistic?. it's a passive sensor, it's not like it's going to take so much power. If you have a rocket that potentially has that kind of range... i'm sure you can think of something. If you can't, we certainly can, and will buy the research and prototypes off you."

She sighed. "It isn't the avionics, it's powering the control surfaces over that range. We're stuck with Metallic conductors because of cost issues, the missile heats up... it takes more power, which in turn heats the solenoids up... at about fifty miles, the control surfaces lock up- and it turns into an unguided object... with better materials to work with, it might actually work better, but... did you know we still use a variant of the F-8 Crusader as a primary naval plane? Convincing a funding board that they're going to have to pay as much for a simple, low-tech missile system, as they do for a mach-two plus air-superiority fighter is almost impossible. They always come back at the Centre with 'Find a way to do it cheaper'... One of the things I've been doing, is preparing my report on this conference with an accounting of what the advanced munitions and systems on display here actually cost." her tone dripped pure misery at this point-the frustration of one held and hamstrung by lesser minds-and trapped by personal Loyalty, and like a flash, it was clear-she knew exactly how it could be made to work-but somewhere in the great funding-machine, she wasn't being allowed to do it HER way. She suddenly brightened, and the traces of melancholy vanished. "I own the bulk of the rights..." she muttered.
She fixed him with a look, "I'll sell you the basic formula for the fuel, and specs on the boosters and the warhead-but, I won't sell you the bits that don't work-you'll have to develop those on your own. the price is reasonable-I just want you to make sure you document exactly how you made the damn thing work, and make sure you patent the hell out of it so that they have to pay your price when you do make it work-because you probably will, and I want to see the faces of those Admirals when they see that what I've been telling them for over a year was, in fact, what had to be done, to make it work. That, and Ten Million Dollars to the centre for 'Technical Advice', and it's yours."
He looked surprised-the price was lower than seemed reasonable, the motivation seemed almost...
She caught the undertone of his look. "Ten million, and the Civilian Space Research side can actually afford computers newer than 1996, we can rebuild the big dish at An-Loc, and get off the Military's array. My husband is a Radio Astronomer, and he's stuck stringing together 486-DX home computers into a parallel processor because we can't afford the computing power to conduct meaningful civilian research."
She held up the sample of the tape. "I had to mathematically model this stuff on a Commodore Amiga-did you know nobody makes parts for those anymore?"

ooc Yeah, that's what I said. Just lest clearly =)

IC Antonev had been doodling in a notebook, making some sketches and doing some fast calculations. He glanced u, "Agreed, I'm authorized to make those kinds of deals on the spot. And there someting almost religious about poutting one in the eye of a beurocrat. I do have some ideas for modifying it. How wold the rocket react if the first engine was set to a slow, long burn, say, 50 miles. Then it would glide to the target. FInally, 50 miles out, the second engine lghts with a short, fast burn that would bring the warhead up to attack velocity and plrovide dV for terminal attack manouvers? Though overall range would be devreased, because there isn't as much heat in the initial stages, the fight controls would stay funcional util well into the second burn. I'm also thinking of using a composite body with a ceramic matrix and carbon fibers to strengthen it. That woudl deal with some of hte heat problems AND reduce mass. Noney isn't really an object... we need somehing for the materials engineering grad students at the Unforgiven University to work on! Are there any projects we have that you're interested in? perhaps we could try a cooperative venture,"

OOC: You have a few misconceptions about tesla pumps there. Its not a perpendicular intake and exhaust, its a perpendicular intake and shaft. In a jet engine, the shaft runs longways parallel to the airflow. In a tesla pump, the shaft is perpendicular to the airflow. So its like this:

Jet engine: The ~~~~~ is the shaft. The | are the blades.
Airflow: ----->
Shaft: ~|~|~~~~~
Exhaust: ------>

Tesla turbine: The | is the shaft. The = are the blades.
Airflow: ------>
Shaft: =|=
Exhaust: ------->

When I say reversible I mean either one of two things, depending on circumstance:

1: Substance is forced through it, causing it to turn and generate power.

2: The shaft rotates in the opposite direction it would normally, therefore moving a substance in the opposite direction.

In any case, the arrangement of the tesla pumps can be found in crude MSCavePaint format on our site (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/temporaryexplanantion.htm), mind you I need the webspace so that page will be taken down after a few days.

Umm... you're talking about this kind of pump, right?

http://www.animatedsoftware.com/pics/pumps/tesla.gif

After first hearing you decribe these, I did research on them... the basic concept involves sucking in air through the axis and throwing it out perpindicular.

I see no way of getting the air to go straight through like on a jet turbine, without a bunch of windy tubes that would reate a lot of weird resistance...

OH!:

http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/TeslaPumpPerformanceBooster.jpg

That might work... so these pumps really work as just little accellerator wheels like on a hotwheels track? That might work... a little...

ooc Yeah, that's what I said. Just lest clearly =)

IC Antonev had been doodling in a notebook, making some sketches and doing some fast calculations. He glanced u, "Agreed, I'm authorized to make those kinds of deals on the spot. And there someting almost religious about poutting one in the eye of a beurocrat. I do have some ideas for modifying it. How wold the rocket react if the first engine was set to a slow, long burn, say, 50 miles. Then it would glide to the target. FInally, 50 miles out, the second engine lghts with a short, fast burn that would bring the warhead up to attack velocity and plrovide dV for terminal attack manouvers? Though overall range would be devreased, because there isn't as much heat in the initial stages, the fight controls would stay funcional util well into the second burn. I'm also thinking of using a composite body with a ceramic matrix and carbon fibers to strengthen it. That woudl deal with some of hte heat problems AND reduce mass. Noney isn't really an object... we need somehing for the materials engineering grad students at the Unforgiven University to work on! Are there any projects we have that you're interested in? perhaps we could try a cooperative venture,"

She bit her lip, and ran the numbers using a slide-rule. "for a 2% increase in mass, you can buffer the fuel pellets to give a slower accelleration to the fifty-mile mark-that can be made up with some change by using Carbon-Fibre..." she handed him the exact numbers.

Then, she sketched something on a clean sheet.

"Sorry... didn'y mean to say carbon fiber... Chardonay's persuing a crash research project in carbon whiskers and single wall nanotubes... we should have a production plant up in a year. In case you were wondering, they have a specific elastic modulous of 318 GPa and a specific strength of 9.1 GPa, as compared to the maximum values of carbon fibers, whcih only has a specific strerngth of 2.7GPA... it's specific modulous is about 407... Which makes sence of course. The thicker material is going to be stiffer. We can, of course, use carbon fiber if it's easier... probably would be. And cheaper too." He grinned. "we really put a push on the whisker technology for a new ship we're designing. Chardonay's a big beleiver in armour overf point defence. No matter how goot the defences are, something's going to get through. WHich is why we're intersted in this missile... no targetting emmissions, ballistic for the final approach... It would be very very difficult to target. And given the armour that most ships carry... This is a ship killer."

Branson walked over to Antonev.

"I couldn't help overhearing your discussion." he said. "But why not use a ramjet instead of a rocket?"

Branson walked over to Antonev.

"I couldn't help overhearing your discussion." he said. "But why not use a ramjet instead of a rocket?"

Miss Cu'ong leaned back, and folded her hands. "Cost. A ramjet-missile costs more to maintain when you aren't launching it-it has fuel-pumps, tanks, liquid fuels, and other additional systems that can break down-and will, over the passage of time between conflicts. Solid-Fuel rockets can be stored over long periods without degradation, and the engine design we're using is simple enough to cast in quantity with very little in the way of assembly-mistakes."

Antonev interjected "They cost less to build too. Scramjets and ramjests are, in chardonay's opinion, a fairly ineffective technology. They can get higher sustainable speeds than rockets, but frankly, eventually you reach teh point of diminishing returns. Once they get cheaper, we may be interested, but as of now, our artillery is rocket assisted, and our missiles havce rocket engines. It's too expencive to build a ramjet into somethign that is going to explode. I do have a few questions regarding your CIWS...How did you manage to increase muzzel velocity, range, rate of fire, AND caliber? To get the kind of range you say you do... they must be subcalliber rounds with a very very large propeelant charge. I'd estmate... at a glance, that you'd need a 30/50mm cannon to get that kind of performance. I asume it's multibarreled?"

OOC: That diagram I gave at first may have been misleading, obviously the stack of disks is kept, the air doesn't just move around the outside of a cylinder. That original diagram is an above view, the new one below that (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/temporaryexplanantion.htm) is a side view. Comparing it to a hotwheels toy is equivalent to comparing a firecracker to a MOAB, same principle(roughly), different scale.

If that isn't enough, I've devised a way to mount 4 tesla pumps on one drivetrain to use only one engine. Thats the third picture (http://www.freewebs.com/bluebomber2/temporaryexplanantion.htm). This may be unneccessary because I think 2 pumps would be more than enough, but whatever....

If I really wanted to, I could use that same drivetrain to make an entire loop of tesla pumps, hell I might even be able to come up with a bladeless jet turbine, but I'm running out of space to put these things in my planes :-(.

Antonev interjected "They cost less to build too. Scramjets and ramjests are, in chardonay's opinion, a fairly ineffective technology. They can get higher sustainable speeds than rockets, but frankly, eventually you reach teh point of diminishing returns. Once they get cheaper, we may be interested, but as of now, our artillery is rocket assisted, and our missiles havce rocket engines. It's too expencive to build a ramjet into somethign that is going to explode. I do have a few questions regarding your CIWS...How did you manage to increase muzzel velocity, range, rate of fire, AND caliber? To get the kind of range you say you do... they must be subcalliber rounds with a very very large propeelant charge. I'd estmate... at a glance, that you'd need a 30/50mm cannon to get that kind of performance. I asume it's multibarreled?"

"I guess our outsourcing has made ramjets viable. Now, about the CIWS. It's big. Whereas the Phalanx weighs 5.6 tonnes including radar, the Dynasty weighs 7 tonnes without radar, due to the longer barrels, larger and more powerful cooling systems. Also, it's 9-barrelled compared to 7-barreled Phalanx CIWS"

Antonev interjected "They cost less to build too. Scramjets and ramjests are, in chardonay's opinion, a fairly ineffective technology. They can get higher sustainable speeds than rockets, but frankly, eventually you reach teh point of diminishing returns. Once they get cheaper, we may be interested, but as of now, our artillery is rocket assisted, and our missiles havce rocket engines. It's too expencive to build a ramjet into somethign that is going to explode. I do have a few questions regarding your CIWS...How did you manage to increase muzzel velocity, range, rate of fire, AND caliber? To get the kind of range you say you do... they must be subcalliber rounds with a very very large propeelant charge. I'd estmate... at a glance, that you'd need a 30/50mm cannon to get that kind of performance. I asume it's multibarreled?"

"I guess our outsourcing has made ramjets viable. Now, about the CIWS. It's big. Whereas the Phalanx weighs 5.6 tonnes including radar, the Dynasty weighs 7 tonnes without radar, due to the longer barrels, larger and more powerful cooling systems. Also, it's 9-barrelled compared to 7-barreled Phalanx CIWS"

Miss Cho began calculating on her sheet. "Now, let's see..." She stopped, and looked at the Gentleman from Taiwan.
"Affordable is an interesting scale, sir... Costs of production are only a fragment of a weapon's total cost. There is maintenance costs to consider as well. Ramscoop engines may provide excellent thrust-to-weight, and certainly, your production methods lower initial costs-but do you factor in long-term maintenance in those figures, or do you rush them from production straight to fueling and use?" Her tone was sweet, inoffensive, and the question pointed as an arrow.
She paused two beats, then pressed on.

"Now, using a Scramjet or Ramjet for manned systems might be a wiser application of the technology-say, a reuseable air-launched shuttle like the ones we've been refining for the last ten years." she folded her arms, "We haven't been able to make good enough power-to-weight with our own systems to beat out Liquid Fuel rockets, but from an airlaunch perspective, we've lowered the dollar-costs for orbital insertion significantly when compared to Ballistic Missile-based systems, and only lost three out of ten pilots in our Manned efforts."

Dr. Antonev's eyes widened- a thirty-percent fatality rate is Dreadful with manned space-efforts. "Thirty-Per-Cent?" he asked, eyes wide.

Miss Cho shrugged, "Yeah, we're underfunded, and the Military does not feel that a manned space programme is worthy of their efforts... they want us to concentrate on Sattelites and Weapons instead."

"Cost effectiveness is not one of our concerns," Branson said. "heck, what other company gives their representatives inflight spa pools and entertainment." he says cheerily.

"Cost effectiveness is not one of our concerns," Branson said. "heck, what other company gives their representatives inflight spa pools and entertainment." he says cheerily.

Miss Cho whistled low, and shook her head, before cracking, "No company interested in maintaining a profit does... and no Military interested in being effective ignores cost-effectiveness. I've had to sit through budgets-this was back when I was Active Duty, and why most of my work ends up coming from the end of lowering operating costs, rather than expanding on-paper capability."

Late, the Minister of the Air Force for Kazakhstania, Francis Tarquin, rushes into the conference, wearing a drenched military poncho and holding a soaked briefcase.

"Hi, sorry I am late. You are discussing modern Air war, I believe?"

Then, Tarquin took off his poncho, showing his gleaming military uniform with numerous badges, stars and strips, showing his high rank and many combat kills. He sat, and took out his notes from his briefcase, including the plans for some of the newest Kazakhstanian Fighters.

"I heard you discussing cost effectivness, yes? Well, you finish up on that and then I believe me and the Zoogie Peoples representative wish to talk about our latest tech."

While Francis Tarquin shows off his rank inside, outside the rest of the delegation were arriving.

They had decided to arrive in formation. Leading was one F-45 prototype fighter, followed by two F/A-41 Snake Fighters. Fourth was a huge KN-12 Cargo Plane, bigger than a 747. On board were the rest of the representatives of Kazakhstania.

Bringing up the rear was a single F-45. As it flew over, it did a startling thing. It dissapeared.

OOC:

F-45 - Kazakh - Zoogie fighter, co-developed. Uses the latest stealth technology, with the ability to blend perfectly into the background.

F-41 Snake: Kazakh fighter, made in the latest version present os the J version.

KN-12 Huge, huge cargo plane. Think An-124, but bigger.

Miss Cho whistled low, and shook her head, before cracking, "No company interested in maintaining a profit does... and no Military interested in being effective ignores cost-effectiveness. I've had to sit through budgets-this was back when I was Active Duty, and why most of my work ends up coming from the end of lowering operating costs, rather than expanding on-paper capability."

Branson feigned anger.
"Well, please don't get me fired!"
He laughed, somewhat nervously.

Miss Cho whistled low, and shook her head, before cracking, "No company interested in maintaining a profit does... and no Military interested in being effective ignores cost-effectiveness. I've had to sit through budgets-this was back when I was Active Duty, and why most of my work ends up coming from the end of lowering operating costs, rather than expanding on-paper capability."

Branson feigned anger.
"Well, please don't get me fired!"
He laughed, somewhat nervously.



Miss Cu'ong added laughter, and Branson seemed to relax.
"Sit, join us! Have some tea..." she poured him a cup without waiting for his reply, She turned to Antonev, "Mister Branson's company was instrumental in providing humanitarian aid during my Nation's last crisis-they may pretend to be heartless, money-grubbing, uncultured, and extravagant, but they're actually very principled and hard-working people."

[ooc-Branson should already know that when someone from Nuevo Kowloon says you're "Hard Working" and "Principled", it's a high compliment-the NKs value Hard work above most things, and usually consider foreigners to be lazy, and unethical. They aren't afraid of saying so, either... given _Taiwan's history in the region, they would know this about the NK's.]

"Thankyou, thankyou."

As the other Kazakhstanian representitives found their seats, Tarquin studied the members of the room. Then, he considered the subject, and thought of a way to enter the conversation.

The ARSB has decided to take this oppurtunity to unveil its whole new line of future aircraft to replace most if not all of the many aircraft in the ARSB Air Force.


Outside, at the airfield, the first part of the ARSB 'exhibit' was finally arriving... The two aircraft were escorted by six DP-02F fighters and four DP-21C EW/interceptors (neither shown on picture). A single C-71 transport landed well ahead of them filled with forty six VEPR system-outfitted SpetsNaz and OMON Black Beret members.


http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/Stealth_missile_bombers_in_flight.jpg


The two aircraft were two of the four prototypes for the F-225A, the ARSB's newest and most technologically advanced aircraft. As the two aircraft taxiid to their parking positions, the rest of the aircraft rolled up to their parking positions behind the two F-225As... As their turbines whined to a quiet rolling and then to nothing, the entire SpetsNaz and OMON complement filed into place around the two F-225As, mobile barriers were set up except for a small opening. The C-71 then rolled across the tarmac to its resting position aways behind the DP-21s.

If any delegates had been watching, this is the aircraft they would've seen, the F-225A:

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/6640427f.gif

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Twenty minutes later... The final part of the exhibit was arriving. Only one of two prototypes built for their brand new F-52A fighter. It was heavily escorted by the same amount as the two F-225As. The lone fighter landed and proceeded to move alongside its stealthy brethren, its features and looks sharply contrasted those of the F-225As. The aircraft was also surrounded by SpetsNaz and other guards.

These, my friends, are the new aircraft of the new ARSB Air Force (and the Navy)....

The F-52A fighter:
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/Future_ARSB_fighter.jpg


*Note- The F-52A is shown with its UCAV brother, the F-54U, which will be based on the same airframe only with advanced computers, etc. Below the F-52 and F-54U are the future naval vessels of the ARSB, these ships are in development and were included in this concept drawing because a version of the F-52 will be modified for naval use.
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And finally, we have brought along a concept drawing of our future medium stealth bomber, the B-65A advanced next generation medium stealth bomber...

B-65A:
http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/B-65_Medium_bomber.jpg

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No specifications will be released on the F-52A and no visitors will be allowed within 300 feet of the aircraft. No photographs/videos.

No specifications will be released on the B-65A stealth bomber.


Limited specifications will be given for the F-225A until it is deemed ready for full-scale production. Only well-trusted and well-known delegates will be allowed within 150 feet of this aircraft. No photographs/videos.
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F-225A 'Kestril' LIMITED SPECIFICATIONS-

Role: Advanced Stealth Multi-Purpose Fighter (Fighter to a certain level)
Crew: 2 (pilot, weapons officer) in a tandem-type configuration
Length: 67.50 ft.
Wingspan: 61.00 ft.
Height: 9.93 ft. (just fuselage)


The F-225A was designed to provide stealth in six key areas: radar, heat, turbulence/wake, sensor, visual and electromagnetic.

Engine
The F-225A uses twin SB-LHSHO-ATF-115AX advanced, low-heat signature low-bypass turbofans. These engines are rated to produce about 39,500 lbs of thrust and are considered transonic, meaning the maximum speed (actually can go up to about 1.8 mach) and cruise speed lie in the transonic area (about Mach .8- Mach 1.4). These engines are are non after-burning which means they do not have the afterburn feature which increases its heat signature and drastically increases fuel consumption (reduces engine/fuel efficiency). The engines lie about in the middle of the aircraft and have long 'exhaust ports' that lead to the rear, where the exhaust leaves the aircraft and propels it forward. All along this way, the exhaust is cooled to where infrared detecting systems have to be much closer to get a positive lock-on to the exhaust. At the end of these 'ports' are the 3D thrust vectoring which vents the exhaust in different directions (on a 3 dimensional plane, meaning it can vector the thrust up, down, and to the sides), allowing for phenomenal maneuvering. The thrust vectoring can hit angles as sharp as 76 degrees in all directions (assuming that when the nozzle is facing straight out equals zero degrees, it can bend 76 degrees in EVERY direction). Each nozzle (one for each engine) are wired seperately and can act seperately, such as if the pilot attempts to a twisting drop, then one nozzle will move up, the other down, then the two will reallign and propel the aircraft down, while it is spinning giving this aircraft superb handling and maneuverability.


(Systems, 1 of many)
The primary ground targetting system is the ARSB developed STB/TRAS-152C which utilizes numerous satellite-based trackers to locate and acquire enemy targets on the ground. The satellite then relays the target information to the aircraft, which then shows the information on the HUD and relays information to the armament. The satellite signals cannot be intercepted and therefore can not give up the aircraft's position and allows it to strike targets many, many miles away (up to 100, depending on the missile) with lethal precision.


More F-225A pictures-

http://img21.photobucket.com/albums/v63/Chlevenkov/F-225A.jpg
*This F-225A is slightly modified and with a different paint schematic.




*May edit in the future...*
OOC- Hopefully the pics work...

"Thank you for the tea." Branson said. Hoping to recover from the faux-de-pas, he changes the subject.

"So how are things in Nuevo Kowloon nowadays?"

"Soviet Bloc, you're systems are very advanced for the standards of Kazakhstania. It is obvious you give your Air Force a large amount of money and so on, but what worries me is the seeming high cost of it all. How can you expect to keep buying and repairing such expensive systems? We of course do not actually know they are, but seeing the advanced stats it seems they must be."

(OOC: Actually, our intelligence services would probably know the prices etc. but saying so would be bad RP.)

Now you have brought up the future airframes subject, we would like to reveal the FAA design, future attack fighter, if you wish?"

"Thank you for the tea." Branson said. Hoping to recover from the faux-de-pas, he changes the subject.

"So how are things in Nuevo Kowloon nowadays?"

Miss Cu'ong sighed. "Things are still pretty rough-especially in some of the southern cities, but the cleanup's finally over. we were lucky in a way because most of the missiles were targeted at only a handfull of locations. We still lost about fifty million people, and Haiphong won't be safe for a couple centuries at least-but it could have been far, far, worse." she sipped her tea, and added, "The help you sent us was a biggie in containing the worst of it, though, and we were more than fortunate that the Austians aren't very good at Intelligence work-other than Haiphong and Ia Drang, we didn't lose much in the way of our industrial capacity."

He nodded, listening. she continued.

"I've got a couple colleagues who were stuck on the Phyrrician's space-station when the fighting broke out. Hopefully they can come home soon..." she was about to say more, when Commodore Trung came running up to the table. His face was ashes. "Doctor." he said, she turned.
"Doctor, I need you to come with me, Right now." Trung's voice was strained.
"What's wrong?" Miss Cu'ong asked.
He was shaking.
"Epirus One has been attacked." he told her, "Professors Huang, Liet, and Davis are... they're dead." He said it hollowly, "The attack hit one of the sections our astronomers were working in..."

Miss Cu'ong's whole demeanour changed. "What?" her tone was disbelief, "Who? When? Why??"

He looked at the Branson half-accusingly, "The UnAPS alliance is fragmenting, has been for weeks-it finally came to a head last night. Nobody thought they'd attack a target with that many civilians on it-especially one that's a hub for trade with some of the solar-system colonies... I got the list about ten minutes ago by messenger. There was no warning, just... missiles."
He handed her the message.
She read it, and gave it back. Her face was white.
"Mister Branson, I'm afraid I... I can't stay." She said shakily, getting up. "I'm... I'm sorry, but..."

Her nerveless hand dropped the note on the table, as she turned and left.

It was open, and both men could read part of it.

...gret to inform you that the following people are confirmed dead after the section they were working in was ruptured by the attack:

Professor Marilee Huang-Astronomy Department, University of New Hue
Doctor Aaron Davis-Propulsion Systems designer, Department of Space Research
Professor Dao Liet- Astrophysics Department
Jason Tranh-Graduate Student Astrophysics
Dao Cu'ong-Undergraduate, University of New Hue Engineering department.
Caroline Pham-Undergraduate, Horticulture Department, University of New Hue


The bodies have been recovered. Please inform Dr. Cu'ong that her daughter's remains will be shipped at earliest opportunity to her home village.

OOC: Pardon me for my inability to generate names on a regular basis, and remember them...if you're representatives are already in a conversation, Kazakhstania, then pretend this happens 'after' that.

I have an F-42 and an A-15 around, so that basically will show off those planes for you...even though you didn't bring them. Also have a few Ka-58s, but that's sort of Army-ish.

As for the thing about the F-45 below, I'm not going to cancel it, just voicing a concern that it's going on too long, most of it being my fault ;)

IC:

"Hello, Mr. Tarquin," greeted @@RANDOMNAME2@@ warmly. "I see your aircraft are arriving...let's take a seat."

He pulled up a chair and began to speak. "Okay, there are a few matters of concern to the DDA currently. First is the extreme cost overruns of the F-45/ZF-28 programme...the defense agency has gotten much more frugal since you last met them* a few years back. The project's birth was with that administration...

"The defense minister wanted me to tell you that we may consider cancelling the project if it doesn't move along fast enough. Basically, the project is of such caliber that Zoogie Aerospace alone isn't moving fast enough to complete it. We've taken on Star Aerospace to help and contracted an additional corporation for the engines, which should hopefully speed things up...anyways, hopefully that will get settled soon.

"As for versions of the F-45, we're wondering whether a ground assault variant is actually needed. It is, after all, a multirole fighter, and takes on all roles admirably. This threatens more plane's services in our country than the F-18 did to the US. When the Air Force decided to withhold funding from The ZF-28 shortly after its conception, the main contractor, Zoogie Aerospace, was barely concerned - had it been contracted for the air force, the new, frugal administration would not have seen the need for several of its own projects. This also saved the behinds of many of Zoogie Aero's competitors...which is why the Air Force made that decision, or so we believe.

"Anyway, back to the task at hand. The naval version will be a standard navalization of the air force version, we presume. It will be able to preform air superiority tasks, strike tasks, fleet defense tasks, anti-ship tasks, and just about anything we ask it to. A fighter-bomber variant will be unnecessary, in our opinion. Of course, we may still design one; but we're not likely to implement it except in very small numbers. That leaves one other version, a twin-seat trainer...two if we have ones for the air force and for the navy. Is this agreeable? A fighter bomber for the airforce can certainly be developed, but there would be so many changes it may as well be a different designation and project altogether.

Um...forgot what else I'd planned on saying...

OOC:Dangit Soviet, I was hoping nobody else would find the ID FSA Webpage... Oh well. Nice work there, though.
IC:
The Lieutenant shrugged as she looked over the presentation on the ASRB stealth bomber. She first suspected spies, but then remembered the EB-9 Megafortress III was taken from a Lockheed Martin Future Strike Aircraft brochure. It was also a weapon that would be shown in the pamphlets that were being handed out now.

The Ultimate Test: USCNE Aircraft over Markov

They talk of the future war, we fight it. As you read this, a substantial New Empire force is fighting over the skies and seas of Markov, in the third war of a long conflict.

EB-9 Megafortress III
"The Rainmaker"

Something very odd happened in the last few weeks. A bomber unit, 13 of them, attacked a defensive SAM network on the north coast of Markov. As EW UAVs exposed their positions, Wolverine cruise missiles rained down on the SAM sites. And when the fighters came up to meet them, they were destroyed 15 minutes before interceptors arrived.
http://invisible-defenders.org/images/fsa/lm-fsa-02.JPG
Four huge turbojet/PDE hybrids engage as the EB-9 lifts off during testing.
http://invisible-defenders.org/images/fsa/lm-fsa-03.JPG
Taken from another EB-9s camera, an EB-9 strike group is now over international waters as the sun rises.
Using the new 25 MW HELLADS designed by DARPA, the EB-9 can provide sniper accuracy in the hectic world of modern dogfights. Although one aircraft was shot down, it took a direct hit to the back of the engine as the smaller 10 MW lasers fended off numerous other missiles. The EB-9 has a 30% increase in payload over the EB-1C Megafortress II shown today, and has more advanced passive stealth characteristics.

F-121 Specter
"The Sky Sweeper"
After that 15 minute period, a squadron of F-121 Specter aircraft was called from a carrier force to the North. 24 of these aircraft effectively eliminated an older Markovian F/A-67 wing, and humiliated the new Markovian SSDIX.
OOC:Copy and paste into browser for viewing.
www.freewebs.com/new_empire/markies.jpg
Gun Camera-F-121 Spectre. The effects of the HELLADS on the Markovian SSDX aircraft as they break formation is clear. While they were among Markov's newest aircraft, it took a decimal of a second for that 10mW beam to pierce the engine of the SSDX aircraft. The glowing sphere is actually plasma from the hull of the aircraft.
Statistics:
http://invisionfree.com/forums/The_Allied_Powers/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=371344
With the aging F-106 Vampire paling in comparison to the F-109D, the Carrier wings and rapid response bases of the UCSNE are switching to the new F-121 Specter Interceptor. The F-121 uses the technologies from the F-109D and changes them to better suit the needs of the interceptor.
Situational Awareness
The aircraft features highly advanced sensor systems to ensure that it always can see its enemy. LIDAR pods are mounted in the nose, wingtips, back, and under and over the fuselage to ensure full coverage of the airspace around the aircraft in a 300-mile radius. It also has forward, down, and rear looking 450-CPS Frequency Cycling radar, good for 350 miles. An advanced 210 Mile range EMS* sensor is also present on the aircraft, along with thermal, IR, X-Ray pulse systems. A laser satellite uplink is also provided. These huge amounts of sensors are the reasons for the elongated nose. While rarely used, the sensor suite has the ability to track hundreds of targets with it’s advanced computers.
True Supermanuverability
While not quite as maneuverable as the lighter F-109D, the Specter does use the MAW technology and can perform many of the same maneuvers. Instead of conventional flaps and elevators, the microhydraulic processors in the canards, forward swept wings, and tail fins can actually twist around, allowing the aircraft to have full control over it's lift, turn direction, and more in conjunction with it's 3D thrust vectoring. The F-121 can fly sideways, while still keeping it's nose on target. At lower speeds, the F-121 can spin around 360 degrees on its axis, or even somersault forward and down to meet a pursuing enemy and engage it. The F-121 uses a 5-Layered system of high performance fly-by wire computers to give the pilot this grade of control. It can use its mission adaptable wings and thrusters to take off at a 10-degree angle.
Advanced Combat Systems
The F-121 can be fitted with any following stealth system-
Athena Mk I (Common Export Version)
Athena- the earliest and one of the biggest technologies ever developed by the USNE.
The F-117, the B-2, the F-22. All stealth. All able to outwit radar systems.
But these aircraft were not agile, not as heavy hitting. Not as cheap as the average aircraft. Then there came Athena, in the F-98. An agile fighter, well armed, fast, affordable, and stealth. But how could it reach that performance? Athena. Athena detects the radar waves, and its raw data is put through a super conductive, liquid cooled computer. Then, the computer supervises and orders the release of out of sync waves from tiny antennas under the planes surface. This effectively eliminates the radar signal, as in no return.
What about the scatter effects? Radar A transmits it, radar B receives it?
The computer knows the characteristics of the plane it is 'protecting'. It therefore emits the proper amount of energy in the right directions.
Athena Mk II (Allied Export Version)
Athena Mk II is relatively similar to the common version, but cycles at a much faster rate (Adjustable between 250-600)
Athena Mk III (New Empire Only Version)
All the features of Athena Mk II and Mk I, but the signature emission can be controllable. The Athena Mk III can imitate the signature of clouds, birds, other aircraft, balloons, even terrain at low altitudes. This upgrade involves the Chameleon programs installed in the Athena Computer "Brain".
The F-121 also can mount a new weapon, a 10MW HELLADS along the nose that can destroy aircraft up to 250 miles away. HELLADS was based off a research program by the American DARPA to create a high-energy Laser that could be carried by aircraft. The F-121 has a total of 16 weapons pylons, and a 20mm HYVELOC Gatling gun.
Advanced Combat Control Capabilities
The F-121, like all other aircraft in the UCSNE, has many tightbeam uplinks for combat information on BATTLENET and DEFENSENET. However, the RIO can put up to 6 UAVs and UCAVs within 100 miles under his direct control, allowing them to expand their abilities to engage multiple aircraft during their defensive missions. The nature of the uplinks ensures that the signals are not intercepted or disrupted.
Bare Stats-
Manufacturer-Techwell Normatt
Crew-2
Propulsion-Dual BEPT-2090 PDE/Turbofan Engines
Thrust Vectoring, Afterburners, Supercruise rated at Mach 2.5, max speed at high altitude Mach 3+, VSTOL capable
Max Ceiling-Classified (Over 80,000 Feet)
Armarment-1x 20mm HYVELOC gatling, 18 weapons pylons (8 Fuselage, 8 Wing, 2 Wingtip), nose mounted HELLADS.
Systems-Athena MkIII, MAW, Photocell Adaptive Camouflage, heat masking, Wetball, Satellite uplink, multiple LIDAR and RADAR pods.
Cost-$85 Million per aircraft

Plasma Yield Warheads
"Insta-Sun"
Using an advanced electromagnetic process, the plasma yield warheads were first utilized in larger Anti-Ballistic Missiles. Using electromagnetic fields to alter the composition of the reaction matter's ionic and electron properties, the Plasma Yield Warheads can have their blast radius tailored with the amount of reaction material put in. Although they are expensive, and their effects diminish with increase of air pressure, the system has been shrunk to fit the AIM-95D "Pheonix Slayer", a AIM-45 sized weapon. At high altitudes, Plasma Yield Warheads can literally distintegrate formations of bombers or fighters.

OOC:Tech taken from Dale Brown. If it's too future, I'll remove it from the conference.

ATM^3
"Mobile Missile Massacre"
OOC:No Sileetris, I didn't copy your imps... I was pumping these babies out in late March. Never mind the subfighter stuff, that's for my future tech crap. (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=127205&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

When faced with the prospect of dogfighting or CAS, sometimes guns just aren't good enough. And when missiles are used, there sometimes is no easier way to deal with it than to kill it. Bombers and larger aircraft have had the luxury of Compacted laser sytems, and HELLADS will provide a long range punch, but the problem of bringing your aircraft around in time has made using such systems on fighters too hard to be effective. But now, with the M^3 missile system, they have what they want. M^3 (MMM) is said to stand for "Miniaturized Missile Module", but many pilots call it the "Mobile Missile Massacre" because of it's large capacities of SLIDs (Small Low Cost Interceptor Devices.) Each M^3 Carries 24 SLIDS in a 6 tube pod. A magnetic accelerator pushes the stacked missiles out of their pods, and then the rocket engine of the LIDAR, IR and MM Wave Radar guided weapon ignites, giving the capability to engage targets within 6 miles at twice the speed of sound.
Versions that travel at higher velocities are under development after their success against F/A-67s that tried to engage EB-9s at closer ranges. The unique thing about UCSNE bombers is that they shoot back, and with the HELLADS and M^3 Series weapons, they are winning.

Looking into the future: Could you be part of the next generation of UCSNE Combat aircraft?

Project Falconer is primarily deisgned to provide a new class of UCAVs, UAV carriers, and next generation fighters from the decades to come. While some fruits of this project will not arrive for a long time from now, they may see service as part of an "Elite" squadron, so to speak, earlier than they see mass deployment.

Project Sections

Realizing the aging of the E-82 platform for UCAV operations, the UCSNE requires a new aircraft for the delivery and control of UCAVs and UAVs. The craft should be able to carry multiple craft, and have transonic (Mach .8 to 1.2) or better speeds. It should have similar range capabilities to any other transcontinental bomber or transport, with excellent C4I. The current project's shape is unknown, but several local companies are submitting everything from a hypersoar concept to a giant BWB "Flying Wing" type aircraft.

We also have several new UCAVs open to design. There is one design in the works so far, but it is early in development. These craft will work with the now declassified XF-125 Gyrafalcon Next Generation fighter, which can be seen later.

The types of UCAVs we require are for air combat roles, but should be able to perform ground strikes if necessary. The outline of the Saker Unmanned fighter is as follows-
(Note that the Saker is based on an earlier manned fighter project.)

http://www.faf.jp/fafar/01/img/f1.gif

UM/F-26 Saker UCAV

Extremely Supermanuverable. The UM/F-26 will be able to put other aircraft to shame, using Mission Adaptive and Aeroelastic wings and control surfaces, as well as thrust vectoring. Maneuvers that would black out human pilots are now possible, and the powerful engine will be able to push the aircraft into supercruise, possibly past Mach 2 at high altitudes. All this, and VTOL capability is expected.

There will be sensors all over the aircraft. LIDAR, EMS, IR, Optical, and X-Ray pulse will make their appearances on the aircraft. It is unknown whether Sileetris will accept the bid for their new radar, or if the UCSNE will use homegrown varieties.

Stealth systems will be similar to the aircraft past, Wetball passive stealth and Pallas Athena active stealth. Thermoptic adaptive camoflauge will also be availible. Rumor has it that a project codenamed "Silent Impostor" has developed a solution to the problem of the latest Sileetris radar. Of course, the same source also said the XF-125 would use an updated version of the Project Archangel. Archangel was a failed Pre-Markov attempt to integrate a Theta alpha man machine connection between pilots and a modified F-106 interceptor. It was canceled after severe psychological fatigue registered on the pilots.

The Saker will have remote control capability, but all flight systems will be integrated with a main computer that has near self aware programming. Because of the integration in systems, the team hopes that more space can be saved for multiple advanced systems in addition to Pallas Athena.

Other UCAV projects open for development include a nuclear powered UCAV bomber or Recce aircraft, and UCAVs with ASW capability.

DECLASSIFIED: The first peek at black projects.

Government begins declassification of Project Gyrafalcon.

XF-125 Gyrafalcon
http://www.faf.jp/fafar/01/img/frx-99-3.jpg
While manned, the XF-125 will have unmanned operations capability, and information released puts it as a larger, faster cousin to the Saker. The Gyrafalcon will be the closest the UCSNE has ever come to a hypersonic fighter, with rumors citing a top speed that varies between Mach 3.9 and Mach 4.3, depending on which engines you believe it is using, through the aid of variable geometry wings.

<hehehe....already found that page and am selecting two suitable images from there, check my technology development thread>

OOC:I think I remember...

But I'm the first to use it, as far as I know.

Speaking of which, did you see the Lampyridae (http://www.invisible-defenders.org/programs/various/lampyridae/lampyridae.htm) project there? Pretty cool stuff.

OOC- Yeah, I found it just last night. That's the only reason why my aircraft development was hampered, I can't find any pics suitable for any of them. But yeah, these pics are the only ones I plan to use from there. But, I had some nice specs for a stealth bomber and that picture was perfect.

Anyways-


"The prices for these aircraft are fairly high at the moment, and that's why we haven't released any of them. The F-225A is still a prototype and probably will be for some time now until we can bring its cost down by creating more cost-effective materials, building solutions, etc. The initial price of the F-225A in its current state and with our current construction systems is roughly $260 million USD, which is fairly high. The cost can probably be brought down to just under $200 million after it is developed a bit more. However, when you look at it, for the technology and capabilities you are getting with this aircraft, $200 million doesn't seem to steep of a price.

Otherwise, the prices for the F-52 and the B-65 are yet to be determined."

Sorry for the lateness but I somehw never saw this thread :( .

General Aviaton LTD is a nation specialy built for the purpose of Aircraft design and development. It's basically the old PEA company from Pure Evil.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=143560

Thats the first plane created(Sorry aout no pix). I have taken it upon myself to create as detailed and realistic a plane possible, thus why full engine specs are included. Range an stuff is also calculated from engine consumption.

If anyone would like me to build then a realisitc engine you need only ask.

"Sure. The F-45 has always been a multirole fighter, and maybe we should consider dropping the ground attack version. However, Kazakhstanian Aerospace companies will still actively persue the Ground Attack fighter version. It may save us some drastic money.

We will continue to work together as the first F-45's enter service in the Air Force.

Moving on, since everyone else has put forward their designs, we would like to show ours. They may seem hugely outdated but are still very, very functional designs.



F-42 Air Superiority Fighter

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/f22/f22-natf.jpg

Design

Designed to be an advanced front line fighter, the F-42 is meant to be first in and first out of a battlefield. Air Superiority is something to have in the modern days of war, and means a lot to a battle. If the skies are clear, aerial transports can arrive and bring supplies and fighter-bombers can roam the air without the risk of being shot down.

Gaining air superiority is hard, and often involves having the largest number of aircraft in the area. But it has been proved in the latest years that numbers are not the most important things. Stealth and superior aircraft are often as important as numbers, and a number of half decent aircraft with a good arsenal can rule the skies.

Bearing this in mind, we designed this fighter to be manoeuvrable, fast and sleek. Carrier capability has also been arranged, so the fighter is capable (in the CV version) of taking off and landing on a carrier. This is significant, meaning an airfield does not have to be near for aircraft to be over the combat zone.

Swing-wings have also been involved for added speed, so airflow and wing hindrance are not involved at high speeds. 2D thrust vectoring has been used, meaning added low speed manoeuvrability. We think this combo is ruling in fighter capability.

The swing-wings hinder stealth slightly, but the smooth curves and shape mean it still has the stealth as say, a F-35 JSF. We are proud of the design, and may use it again into he future, like the Russians with the Su-27.

Systems

The systems on this aircraft are top of the range. The computers are liquid cooled as standard, and allow for the simultaneous tracking of 200 aircraft, but is not capable of tracking ground vehicles due to the lack of under nose pod. JTDS from the F/A-41 and A-15 is used, to greater effect, as it almost controls all communication between base, other aircraft and any other frequencies.

The supercomputer also runs Fly-By-Optics, which use several computers to decide what to do. Fuel shifting for equal balance, thrust distribution and weapon safe firing are handled from here, with little work needed from the pilot. Engine economy is also controlled, and Air to Air refuelling has been reorganised for autopilot. The autopilot system (as used on the F/A-41 'Snake (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96418&highlight=)) for carrier landings is used, meaning easy training of pilots.

A supercomputer is used, more powerful than anything loaded into a fighter plane until now (at least more powerful than all RL fighter planes), and allows for complex applications such as Fly by Optics and JTDS. The radar used is a long range (140nm for an F-16), wide sight radar, used for tracking aerial targets. It can relay many targets positions at once to the computer, as many as the computer can handle. This means first sight, first shot.

Weaponry

Of course, first sight doesn’t mean first shot, not without superior weapons. To keep with its stealth design, a bomb bay is used as a pose to the more traditional pylons. The wide main body is almost a flying wing, whereas the wings are swing-wings. This means mounting pylons on them would be complex, and add to the confusion of an already complex plane. So, a large bomb bay was added. Last we saw, it could load a 2,000-pound bomb (though it isn’t supposed to), and AIM-54's aren’t a problem.

There are 5 slots, and 2 AIM-120's can be loaded on each slot, or 1 AIM-54 on each. This means 10 possible AIM-120's. Fairly large for a stealth fighter. Of course, the bay and computers can cater for most weapons. And once more, a Ghs-30-1 cannon is loaded. Note: ALL EASTERN BLOC EQUIVELANTS ARE CATERED FOR.

That’s time again. Stats :(

Propulsion: 2 KZ-101TV engines, total 90,000 lbs possible thrust.
Height: 16 feet
Wingspan: 72 feet unswept, 45 feet swept
Ceiling: Above 53,000 feet
Speed Max Mach Number = 2.67
Cruise Mach Number = 1.25
Carrier Approach Speed = 130 kts
Crew Two: pilot and radar intercept officer
Payload: Up to 16,000 pounds

Cost: $55,000,000.

Thankyou. Sorry, no more pics this time.

A-15 'Raiden' Ground Attack Fighter

Design

In initial concept, we designed this Ground Attack Fighter to be quick, manoeuvrable and hold a decent payload. We also wanted it to be semi stealthy, such as the JSF, F-22 and other concept fighters. Survivability and usefulness were also key.

We came up with several ideas, and the initial idea of using 3D thrust vectoring as a pose to 2D came through. This also meant added manoeuvrability, and took away the need for a rudder. The mini winglets at the end of the wing are there to give added flight balance, and keep the airflow going to the right places.

A main concern was the stealthy shape. We decided to use shapes like the JSF and F-22, with curves to bounce of radar. It has worked, but we managed to keep the price of building it down and manoeuvrability to the maximum. We are proud of the design, as it keeps stealth while still allowing 7.5 G's of turn (8.5 non-export) and Mach 2.5 in level flight.

Systems

The systems on this aircraft are top of the range. The computers are liquid cooled as standard, and allow for the simultaneous tracking of 50 aircraft or 300 ground vehicles. They are mini supercomputers, in essence, and allow for advanced unit tracking in a program called JTDS (Joint Tactical Distribution System), which is relayed to the weapons systems. From there it is passed to the pilot and weapons, meaning a lock on is not even needed for the weapon to guide. All fire and forget weapons with universal settings are catered for, and can be fired.

The supercomputer also runs Fly-By-Optics, which use several computers to decide what to do. Fuel shifting for equal balance, thrust distribution and weapon safe firing are handled from here, with little work needed from the pilot. Engine economy is also controlled, and Air to Air refuelling has been reorganised for autopilot. The autopilot system (as used on the F/A-41 'Snake (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=96418&highlight=)) for carrier landings is used, meaning easy training of pilots. Other than that, the computers are all user friendly, and from the next generation from the F/A-41 and A-10. In fact, they re so advanced they are 2 generations ahead of the A-10 and A-6.

There are 2 radars involved, on in the nosecone pointing level and up, the other in a small pod under the cockpit. The nose-mounted radar is an 120 Nautical Mile range air-to-air radar, for aerial engagements. It is cheap and easy to use, to provide at least some air to air use for the aircraft. It is fairly efficient, and can track most targets on its own. Stealth is a noted problem however (not so on the non-export version).

The second, under-nose radar is the goodun though. It can scan terrain, map it, and pick up most objects. Using IR, TV and Optical Scanners, it can pick up foreign objects like Tanks and ground objects. Then, thanks to the supercomputer it can identify them and relay the info to the pilot. Very slick.

Weaponry

A large and spacious bomb bay is underneath the main fuselage and engines. It can accommodate most universal weapons systems, bombs and missiles. Possible layouts are 6 Maverick AGM's, 6 AIM-120A's or Four 1,000 pound bombs and 4 Maverick's. This is much like the F-22 Raptors bomb bay, but larger and wider. It can also accommodate 2 2,000 pound bombs and 4 Mavericks.

It is very much geared to air to ground. On the two possible wing pylons, the inner one can take three 500 pound bombs and the outer ones 2 Mavericks AGM's. A variety of weapons can be catered for, mainly Air to Ground Munitions. Cluster bombs and rocket pods on the inner pylons are also available.

The main gun is a very powerful AP 30mm cannon. It is tri barrelled, and rotates in a space inside the aircraft. The door to the cannon slides back, allowing for stealth to be kept. It is angled straight ahead, for strafing runs, as a pose to up for dogfights.

Now, that time again. Stats :x

Length: 45.75 ft
Wingspan: 35.10 ft
Height: 12.00 ft
Weight Empty:22,500 lb
Fuel Capacity: 15,000 lb
Payload: Internal: 9,400 lb
External: 5,800 lb
Speed: Up to Mach 2.5
Combat Radius: 650 nautical miles
Crew: 1
Engines: 1 KZ-103 engine providing total 55,000 lbs possible thrust.

Cost: $45,000,000

So, here we are, to announce to you the F/A-41 "Snake", our next generation fighter!

F/A-41 "Snake"

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Design

Designed to encompass the latest in technology and design, the F/A-41 is a serious piece of hardware. Almost entirely made out of a blend of Titanium and Carbon (Titanium Carbonate) we have crafted a light and manoeuvrable fighter.

It uses the latest in aerodynamics, as it uses airflow and currents to pass over its wings and flaps, producing lift, turn and speed. It is much like the F-16 Fighting Falcon of the west, and is based on it. However, it encompasses double engines, each producing almost 30,000 pounds of thrust when dry. At afterburner, it can reach 50,000 pounds, meaning it can accelerate to a speed of Mach 2.

Systems

The F/A-41 is not only physical in its advantages. It uses some of the latest radar technology. The small yet powerful radar can detect enemies up to 180km away, meaning it often gets the first look. The radar can also be used in a ground-mapping role for reconnaissance or ground attack, in picking out objects on the ground.

Infrared sensors are built in and allow for detection from up to 9 km away. This allows for additional ground attack, or allows use in detecting stealth aircraft such as the B-2, F-22 and a variety of stealth developed fighters. Also, missiles like the AIM-9X Sidewinder can lock on, meaning weapons compatibility.

The trump card however is its electronic suite. Utilising jammers that use several frequencies and modules to jam things, it is fully capable of eliminating detection until it is sorted out. Also, various heat-cooling systems reduce the aircrafts crossection.

Its powerful onboard Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) allows for upwards of 50 air targets and 215 ground targets to be spotted and destroyed. It can deal with most missiles from around the world and uses a universal system. It can also work with other JTIDS systems to spot more enemies in flight.

Weapons

On each wing are 3 weapons pylons. Each can take 200lbs, meaning a huge overall weight possible.. There is also a rail on the end for holding weapons such as the AMRAAM, AA-11 and AIM-9X. Also, there leis another 500lb slot underneath. This means that there is a total of 12,750 lbs of weaponry fitted on the aircraft.

The JTIDS also means most weapons systems can be catered for, even modern weapons like Storm Shadow or Joint Standoff Munitions. It is JDAM capable, and can even cater for one weapon targeting multiple targets (cluster munitions). This means a diverse and unique operating system.

Carrier Version

A carrier version has now been produced, meaning more thrust, more stable and updated computers for carrier landing.

We present to you, the F/A-41 "Snake".

Constructor: Kazakhstania Aerospace
Length: 14 Metres 25 Cm
Height: 4m 56cm
Span: 10m 13cm
Max Speed: 2075 km/h
Crew: 1
Ceiling: 16,760 m
Primary Function: Fighter Bomber
Engines: 2 KZ-101 engines providing total 90,000 lbs possible thrust.
Armament: 1 GSH-30 30mm Cannon and 12,750 lbs of munitions.

Cost:
F/A-41A Land Based: $27,000,000
F/A-41B Carrier Based: $29,000,000

We sincerely hope you like, and will contribute to our growing nation.

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C-145 'Hauler'

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Design

With the competitive world of aerial design providing tough opposition, we set about producing a new transport for all nations to use. Again, due to our small nation and relatively small armed forces, we were forced to export another product.

We have decided to release the C-145 as a light transport, and as a support aircraft. Designed to take off from short airfields, it can also be put on high readiness at all times for a QRF.

It is light and can carry just over 50 paratroopers (52 possible), it can provide transport for a variety of roles. We hope you like this design, and its ability to do what the C-5, C-130 and C-117 cannot do. Also, around built armour means 30mm sots can be soaked up with ease. An onboard refuelling boom is also in place.

Power plant

To be able to land on short runways, before taking off again, it is imperative that a powerful engine must be used. Also, carrying a full load of 12,500 kg in cargo, means power must be achieved fully and effectively.

We have rigged it with 2 KZ-102 engines so it can reach speeds of Mach 0.9, not stall easily and be capable of adequate manoeuvres meant engines that can deal thrust at great amounts. Also, it must lift the airframe with full cargo. 64,700 pounds of thrust can be achieved each.

Slightly smaller KZ-100 engines are installed on the AWACS version, for safer flying at less cost. The engines are also situated slightly further forward on the AWACS, for greater flight balance.

Systems

The aircraft is fitted with fly by wire controls such as that of a fighter, meaning manoeuvrability and fly ability. Autopilot is standard, and allows automatic carrier and short runway landings, as long as the runways are calculated.

Counter measures such as flares, chaff and ECM have been installed for basic survival from missiles, and an automatic load calculator is installed. This makes for easier, safer flying.

AWACS Version
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On the AWACS version, long-range 500nm calculating radar with onboard supercomputer are issued. We believe that a smaller, less expensive airframe should be used for AWACS, other than larger craft. The supercomputer can calculate up to 200 airborne targets and 300 ground targets at once, and calculate where they are going every 0.001 seconds. It is liquid nitrogen cooled for extra power.

Now, some stats to sell it:

Role: Long Range Light Transport
Wing Span: 100.4 ft
Length: 115.1 ft
Height: 32.8 ft
Engines: 2 KZ-102 engines each - 32,350lbs of thrust each
Maximum speed: Mach 0.9
Range: 1307 miles - maximum unrefueled
520 miles - maximum payload unrefueled
Service Ceiling: 45,000 ft
Capacity: 65 troops or
52 paratroopers or
40 stretchers or
12,500 kg of cargo
Crew: 5

Cost:$35,000,000

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Thank you.

Eh...this has gotten slightly out of hand...on to the final point, then? :lol:

"Nations," said air force chief of staff @@RANDOMNAME@@_3, "For the past several weeks, we have witnessed on display some of the most advanced and awe inspiring aircraft in the world. We have seen the future of aerial warfare, and hopefully, we have all shared some ideas and exchanged technologies.

"All of you should know where this has been leading to. Gathered here today are many of the world's greatest air powers...Raysia...Silletris...New Empire...Kazakhstania...Nuevo Kowloon...Taiwan... Soviet Bloc...and others who, due to the author's OOC forgetfulness, could not be mentioned here.

"To form together an alliance, of the great air powers, was the purpose. All of you have far exceeded our expectations for technology display, and all of you have demonstrated expertise, skill, and ability in conducting a highly effective air war.

"A union of our nations into alliance, would be mutually beneficial, and at the same time formidable. We ask all present, to join us, in a new alliance, that binds the air powers of Nationstates into a formidable coalition, which will further the pursuits of each of our nations, further the advancement of aerial warfare, and help ensure the protection of our nations through mutual defense.

"As the naval powers gathered in the OMP, so shall the aerial powers unite, in a council of aerial powers...what say you?"

"Let us drink to that."

Branson raises his glass before realising it was tea instead of the usual beer.