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Royal Navy ships Blockade Unified Sith!

Hogsweat
09-04-2004, 16:34
It is three o clock in the morning. An alarm sounds, and wakes Sailor Rutav.

WHAT IS IT!

The man next to Rutav was already awake. "We've arrived, the Blockade has taken place.


Fourty Long Range ships of the Royal Navy, and twelve carriers, have pulled up into Unified Sith waters. They are blockading the twenty miles shoreline.

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Dimmimar
09-04-2004, 16:49
What pray is the reason for this blockade?

Baron Manfred von Konan
Minister for Foreign Affairs in Dimmimar
Granzi
09-04-2004, 16:59
There seems to have been a series of campaigns against the Unified Sith. We too would like conclusive evidence as to justify military action?

Secretary Barlow
Department of the Navy
Doujin
09-04-2004, 17:04
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/carriers/kennedy/jfk-hopper.jpg

OOC: ^^ Hogsweat blockade force
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 17:05
Do any of you mind if the Fed Union helps against Sith ? we kind of have a beef wiht there WMD's
Swedish Dominions
09-04-2004, 17:05
http://homepage.tinet.ie/~steven/images/hmsnottinghamb.jpg

^ Bad URL fix
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 17:09
:?
IDF
09-04-2004, 17:09
We have been appaled by the terrorism of Sith. wE are joining with our 3rd Surface Action Group
this contains
7 Farragut class stealth DDGs

2nd logistical support group
2 long range supply oilers
1 Spruance class DD
1 Burke class DDG
1 perry class FFG

We are also sending our 2nd CVBG with carrier USS Midway a Nimitz class vessel
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 17:09
:?
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 17:10
:?
Hogsweat
09-04-2004, 18:12
Many thanks Doujin for that pic - thanks SD for the fix also.


The Federal Union woould gladly be accepted into the blockade force.
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 18:16
7th fleet :
2 Nexus class carriers
10 agusta guided missle desotryers
10 new yorek class super battle ships
5 boston class missle battle ships
15 sea wolf class attack subs
10 hamnmer head subs

8th fleet :
8 Nexus class carriers
10 agusta guided missle desotryers
5 new yorek class super battle ships
5 boston class missle battle ships
5 sea wolf class attack subs
10 hamnmer head subs
7 Ohio Trident subs
5 Odussys class Battle curisers

6th fleet :
3 Nexus class carriers
10 agusta guided missle desotryers
5 new york class super battle ships
5 boston class missle battle ships
5 sea wolf class attack subs
5 hamnmer head sub


Those forces have been dispatched to help with the blockade
Adaptus Astrates
09-04-2004, 18:27
The Imperium of Adaptus Astrates shall assist our GDI allie should fullscale war breaks out. To assist Hogsweat we are despatching-
4 Amphibious assault carriers
2 CVF Aircraft carriers
4 minesweepers
5 subs
3 destroyers
6 frigates

"Task Force 31", as it has been designated, is carrying 3472 marines, and 200 vehicles.

We shall strike if Hogsweat strikes.
Hogsweat
09-04-2004, 18:42
Many thanks Doujin for that pic - thanks SD for the fix also.


The Federal Union woould gladly be accepted into the blockade force.
Trailers
09-04-2004, 19:05
..Would Hogsweat and those assisting him explain their actions?

Seat of Foreign Affairs,Garu Manii,Traileric Parliament

Traileric Empire
Hogsweat
09-04-2004, 19:50
Unified Sith has turned a once good alliance into a stale and corrupt opressive state - he has also threatened to commit acts of Genocide upon innocent Camewotian citizens - and would have if we didnt intervene. Several Members of the alliance have defected
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 20:04
I am all too aware of what Sith has done, and that loyal members of the RIA have defected. Sith pulled back because of me. I contacted him, and told him what will happen if he does not stop his foolish remarks. You did arrive as a catalyst for this though. He may have not listened had you not displayed your opposition. Me and Gothenburg handle diplomacy in the RIA now. I am far less genocidal than Sith. Just check out the last few pages of the "massive bombing in Midlonias Camewot" (See who they area originally belonged to?) I have established embassies in several nations percieved to be hostile, I have given a blank check for aid to Camewot and so forth. You do not need to concern yourself with this. It is more trouble than it is worth.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 20:06
This blockade means nothing to unified Sith considering we gat all of our imports from neighbouring nations Blockade away however if any of your ships, aircraft come into range of our trigger happy coastal guns, torpedo launchers or sam batteries i cant be held responsible.
Central Facehuggeria
09-04-2004, 20:15
In support of our ally, Hogsweat, we will deploy over half of our navy to this blockade

1 Daedalus Super carrier (200 fighter capacity. Twice as large as a nimitz)
4 Voodoo class battleships (a modern version of the iowa, designed ground up for long range firesupport and AA defense)
1 Ohio sub (carrying conventional cruise missiles, not nukes)
6 Oswald destroyers
4 Pershing class AEGIS equipped cruisers.

OOC: That's a small navy, no? When this turns into a ground combat RP, then I'll be able to participate much more effectively. Naval warfare isn't for me.
Dimmimar
09-04-2004, 20:19
OOC:Agreed, one of my fleets could destroy that!
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 20:21
You do know that an assault upon the coast is impossible as its just sheer granite cliffs. the coastal shelf extends 12 miles only landing craft can make it close enough to the coast no ship can get near my nation.
Central Facehuggeria
09-04-2004, 20:27
OOC: You see, my navy gets practically no funding; it all goes to the army, airforce, and space corps. (Especially the army.)

Also, I don't need to use landing craft to get into your nation. I can use my aerial transports.
Granzi
09-04-2004, 21:00
Can someone post a link that provide conclusive evidence against Unified Sith? The Commonwealth does not support unprovoked action.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 21:23
and i assume you arial transports can fly all the way from your region to my nation without fuel. ahh thats it they run on people power. unless you transport your army via a navy you cant get into my nation.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 21:28
I would instead point out the huge number of Sam sights he has in hi nation. The island fortress is almost full to the brim with weaponry.
Jordaxia is deploying 100 RF-X8s to the unified Sith territory, as well as 40 RB-225 Megafortress bomber.
Muggles and Animals
09-04-2004, 21:36
can i just ask which nations surround the rest of your nation?
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 21:39
I know that Gothenburg is directly to the South, and I believe I am in the North West some-where. He's drawing the map at the moment.
Jordaxia, for your information is an archipelago, with many fjords and natural harbours.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 21:41
Imperial Brits, The British Motherland. Gothemberg D Franc to the far south though we dont actualy share a border with him.
Muggles and Animals
09-04-2004, 21:49
Imperial Brits, The British Motherland. Gothemberg D Franc to the far south though we dont actualy share a border with him.

okies :D
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 21:53
there is a problem at the moment.

the map is on this website as i couldnt get it on nationstates.

The white blotches represent the populated areas. The rest only the R.I.A know what they are.
IDF
09-04-2004, 21:58
OOC: you do realize that TLAMs can go over your cliffs and crush your SAMs. Also, I can get F-4G Phantom II, Wild Weasel variants which are designed for the sole purpose of killing SAMs. Oh, I forgot, they are carrier based and will be able to strike you.
The Fedral Union
09-04-2004, 22:05
:|:|:| Any way my fleet is ready for an attack .
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 22:06
What are TLAMs?
I would scramble fighters to intercept the SAM killers.
IDF
09-04-2004, 22:06
Our Admiral has announced the arrival of a Wild Weasel squadron called up from the Air National Guard since the F-4 is no longer in main combat service, but it will be used soon
IDF
09-04-2004, 22:07
What are TLAMs?
I would scramble fighters to intercept the SAM killers.

Tomahawk land attack missiles, also known simply as a cruise missile, range is over 1,200 miles.

OOC: I can use AEGIS ships to shoot down the planes you have before you can do anything
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 22:11
You'll use aegis to shot down planes over land?
How?
The phrase you used for TLAMs is what confused me.You said they would crush SAMs, I thought they were future tech, like big stompy robots.
Durtistan
09-04-2004, 22:23
Admiral Isham of the Protectorate Navy gave a lecture recently on the process of Blockading a nation. We thought it might be useful if we repeated some of it here.


The idea of a blockade is to prevent merchant and military vessels accessing a deepwater port. You do this to underline the application of economic sanctions to a nation, although it can serve to buy time before an invasion or simply to apply a lever to the diplomatic process.

The Admiral continues:

If a state of war does not exist, it is best to stage the blockade in International waters, normally 12 miles offshore. The use of surface vessels to interdict incoming shipping means that the majority of the blockade should be lighter vessels: Frigates for example. A Carrier might be used to provide air cover for the force or to set up a 'No Fly Zone'. Submarines might also be used to track and pursue vessels attempting to run the blockade, but since the goal of this action is to prevent a shooting war the majority of work should be done by vessels of the surface fleet.

Later on, he mentions:
Ships may be stopped for a variety of reasons, and may be searched. International Law lists a number of proscribed cargoes that can be searched for. It is recommended, however, that this pretext be carefully applied as acting without due cause can land you in legal hot water.
Boarding actions should be carried out by Marines. When dealing with civilian traffic, it would be wise to remember that they are not the enemy and should be treated with respect. Your hope is that they will be sufficiently intimidated to turn aside or turn back.

And finally...

If you stray inside territorial waters, if shots are fired and most importantly if there are casualties, you have lost. The nation you are attempting to blockade is now quite justified in reaching out and firing upon you. You have become the aggressor.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 22:26
My sams are retractable, they are brought up from small underground installations, and if you attack me with cruise missiles i will do the same however land based ones of course. Question how on earth can you invade me, how can you get all of your troops onto that fleet to take out 9 million men and over 80 thousand tanks. my fighters have the advantage as iam am supplied over land my trade routes cant be cut off. well guess this war is over before it started.
Just back off everyone or trailers will kill you all have you seen the size of his nation. 1.7 billion.
Trailers
09-04-2004, 23:08
OOC:..As stated in the other thread..

IC:

You fools don't seem to understand..any attacks on Unified Sith will not be tolerated.Go home to your Mary's and save everyone a lot of trouble.

-In The Flames of Hostility That Become Him,Lord Admiral Gero-

http://www.satanstephen.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/flagz0r.gif


Traileric Empire
Durtistan
09-04-2004, 23:22
The simple answer to the situation is:

use of correct munitions.

The first issue is: Establish air superiority.

Stage 1: SAM suppression. All modern SAMs are IR, thermal or radar guided. SAM launchers that are radar guided have a radar groundstation which identifies targets before the SAM locks on. Therefore, a Wild Weasel mission (and EF-111A Raven is as good as the old F4 used to be) packing HARM missiles. As the search radars illuminate their targets, the HARMs fire to take them out. Without the search radar, the SAMS can't target.

IR tracking SAMS can be defeated by the Durtistan Arms 'Basilisk' system.

Stage 2: Disrupt Command and Control.
Once the SAM sites are offline, either by being hit with HARM missiles or by bombing, the next wave arrives using BLU-109 bunker busters to make sure the hardened SAM sites are out of commission. Another wave, this time Stealth aircraft (F-117As maybe) go for AWACS aircraft using either HARM or AMRAAMs. Conventional strike aircraft can then go for a mix of high and low altitude bombing to take out bridges and transport artieries, slowing the movement of resources to the Front, while Tomahawk missiles nail communications hubs.

Stage 3: Establish Air superiority.
With communications disrupted, radar stations destroyed or offline and movement hampered, you roll in the strike aircraft and the air superiority fighters to cover them and take on airfields. Strategic bombers with cluster munitions, or good old fashioned crater-makers nail runways and hangars.

Stage 4: Shore bombardment.
Naval ships, especially some of those old fashioned Iowa class battleships, can lob a shell sixteen miles. Pound the shore flat with those, and more missiles and strike missions and then...

Stage 5: Begin the landing.
At this point you're looking to get troops on the beach, supported by Air Superiority and Strike missions. I'd also throw the AV-8 Harrier in for close air support as Marine Amphibious units get as much kit on dry land as possible.

I'd also be looking to drop airborne forces behind enemy lines to secure certain strategic sites, like airfields or key bridges. But that's not necessarily a good idea if the previous 4 stages didn't work too well.

Of course, there's no guarantee that any of this would work...but then I'm not revealing all of the toys I have at my disposal (go see my storefront!) nor am I taking into account the time I personally would spend on recon to give me a MUCH better idea of Unified Sith's actual capabilities.

For all I know, there's a second or third line of defence that would total any air assault or simply lay in wait to make mincemeat of the invader. The point is...no battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy and nothing, especially not the plans of the defenders, ever goes exactly as you think it will.
The Fedral Union
10-04-2004, 00:09
Im really not intmidtated buy your threats trails becuse a coltion can always beat a bigger nation .
Friyusistan
10-04-2004, 01:10
Unified Sith, there's no way you can have 80,000 tanks:

Percentage of GDP Spent on Defense: 5.5%
Percentage of Budget Spent on Defense: 22.54%
Military Budget: $376,750,000,000

(Note that he would be spending 22.54% of his budget in his military, an impossible number)

Even if you have made your army trough years, you still have to pay their maintenance costs, maintain you troops (that you stated that are 9 million!), AND maintain your air force and navy (that are generally more expensive than the army)

SO, you can have that many tanks, sorry :)
Jordaxia
10-04-2004, 01:40
I'll give you a little figure regarding U.S naval power.
Amount of ships in U.S navy:0
Durtistan
10-04-2004, 03:27
You do know that an assault upon the coast is impossible as its just sheer granite cliffs. the coastal shelf extends 12 miles only landing craft can make it close enough to the coast no ship can get near my nation.

Some things to be aware of:

According to a former Colour Sergeant of the Royal Marines, the way to get a member of 45 Commando to climb a sheer granite cliff, in the rain, in the dark, one handed is to hand him a cigarette and tell him there's a lighter at the top.

Your 20 miles of sheer granite cliff is unlikely but possible. The 12 mile costal shelf contradicts your comment earlier that you have a single deep water port. If you have this, there has to be a channel to it which means that other ships can get nice and close to at least one part of the coastline.

All of this without saying 'Hey! These geographically unlikely features are very close to Godmodding'.

Additionally, I'm pretty sure I can disable your tanks.

How are you fuelling them? You managed to forget to mention the 20,000 fuel trucks you'd need and the 20,000 ammunition lorries. If you don't have mobile resupply there have to be facilities capable of re-arming and refuelling. 80,000 tanks will eventually show up at a choke point and overflights with high altitude photo-recon aircraft will show those. GPS guided bombs from high altitude bombers, or Tomahawk missiles, will be able to damage refuelling stations if not destroy them. If you're trucking fuel in it's unlikely that you'd be able to keep up with the fuel requirements of that many tanks and pipelines, even underground, have to come up somewhere. Once more, photo recon will show where these point are and precision bombs or missiles will take out at least some of them, forcing your army to cluster elsewhere. More evidence for photo-recon, more missions.

It might take a while, it might be costly but it is definitely possible for a concerted effort by one or more nations the same size as yourself to kill your ability to refine fuel, ship it and refuel the tanks you've built.

Please, stop insisting that an invasion could not work. Even without RP-ing the recon by air, sig-and-el INT, satellite and close target recon you've told me enough about Unified Sith to suggest that I could plan an invasion and be reasonably sure of success...assuming I am willing to accept losses of 50% or higher.
Hogsweat
10-04-2004, 09:09
Exactly. Unified Sith, 80,000 tanks is a GODMOD.





Carrier Indomitable launched eight harriers, and they flew high up, coming down vertically to recon the Sith positions.

"This is bravo twenty two, we are approaching vector... over"

"Roger bravo twenty two, got anything on visuals, over?"

"Visuals... nothing, just cliffs, over"

"roger that Twenty two... wait what the hells that! OVER"

The harriers flew into view of Sith air emplacements, and immediately were shot at.

"THIS IS BRAVO THIRTY TWO, GOING DOWN!!!!AAAAAAARRGGGGGH"

A missile smashed into Bravo Thirty Two, and the left wing felf off, the harrier carreered down and smashed into the cliffs, exploding. The harriers released their payloads of SideWinder missiles, randomly at the defences, and ran home to their carrier.
Unified Sith
10-04-2004, 10:45
Two things. One my deepwater Port is not in Unified Sith it is on Sargoth island of the coast. We have an under sea bed tunnel connecting the island to the mainland. We dont have any deep water ports on the mainland itself.

The 9 million men at my disposal are the total ammount of armed forces I can have relatively quickly. I am conscripting large ammounts of the populace as we speak.

Tanks do not need to have fuel my friends. They can always sit and wait and ambush. Heh thats what the germans done when they were running out of fuel.
Central Facehuggeria
10-04-2004, 16:28
and i assume you arial transports can fly all the way from your region to my nation without fuel. ahh thats it they run on people power. unless you transport your army via a navy you cant get into my nation.

OOC: Actually, my aerial transports can make it from my region to yours. They use a large number of hydrogen fuel cells. Not to mention the fact that I'm sure there is some friendly nation closer to you than I am that I could use as a staging area for my transports. Not that i'd need it.

As for the Sams, I will wait for the other coalition navies to bombard those into dust before I start the invasion. Or I'll just use copious amounts of cruise missiles. One or the other. :)

Lastly, while tanks do not need fuel (they need it to move their turrets though), they are a pretty big target when stationary. If they can't avoid enemy fire, it is unlikely that they'll last very long at all. Even if they're dug in, they're still pretty vulnerable to anti-tank missiles, other tanks, close support helicopters, ground attack aircraft, etc.

An IC post is forthcoming, depending if Hogsweat feels he needs more help.
IDF
10-04-2004, 16:37
OOC: Are tactical nukes of small fission yields allowed to destroy defensive positions?
Hogsweat
10-04-2004, 19:05
Yes, indeed they are :D :D :D :D I wasnt attacking the deepwater port...
Jaratia
10-04-2004, 19:28
OOC:U.S. has gotten into a fix here. :shock: But oh well.Who says I can't have a bit of fun?8)
IC:
The Dropboxes were already laden with troops,guns and ammo.And then they had they armour to bring as well.
It would be a long day.
Admiral Cutter sighed and turned to his assistant.
"Unified Sith screwed up real good today.And now he's in trouble.And we have to send troops and armour in to help him.Thats going to cost us..."
The assistant merely nodded,unsure of what to say.Suddenly the Admiral whirled around and demanded,
"How long before we can start bringing armor and our M. Flak cannons?"
The assistant checked his clipboard and muttered,
"Uhh...2 days,sir."
"2 whole days?It takes that long to transport 25,000 troops by DB's?Haven't they advanced in technology even a little?"
"Well...it appears not,sire."
The Admiral sighed and went back to looking at the map of U.S. ...
Hogsweat
10-04-2004, 19:31
Id advise you NOT to help US.
A Few Rich People
10-04-2004, 19:50
Tag due to alliance with US
IDF
10-04-2004, 22:42
TELEX to all blockading nations.

I advise a tacticall nuke strike on the tunnel networks to isolate the islands.
Unified Sith
10-04-2004, 23:22
I have one little question, how can you locate the tunnels. They have anti shock absorbers to prevent vibrations. The lining is coated with a special sound absorbant foam to prevent any sound and heat from escaping.

Also to hogsweat or whoever thinks they can just blas through my defences, how is it that you can just blast your way through 100m of granite and a further 12 of reinforced concrete when norad can withstand a direct nuclear attack.

I'am sure you will come up with answers but be warned i will reearch them to see if they can actualy work.
IDF
10-04-2004, 23:24
you can just lay them across the bottom of the ocean and detonate them. 1 of them will hit the tunnel. Plus active Sonar, it doesn't detect metal, but gaps where air is present
Durtistan
10-04-2004, 23:31
OOC:

Two things. One my deepwater Port is not in Unified Sith it is on Sargoth island of the coast. We have an under sea bed tunnel connecting the island to the mainland. We dont have any deep water ports on the mainland itself.

The 9 million men at my disposal are the total ammount of armed forces I can have relatively quickly. I am conscripting large ammounts of the populace as we speak.

Tanks do not need to have fuel my friends. They can always sit and wait and ambush. Heh thats what the germans done when they were running out of fuel.

You change your geographic features as it suits you, it seems. Oh well, that's up to you.

Tanks do need fuel. What kind of boneheaded comment is that?
Tanks have electrical systems. These work off batteries. The batteries of a tank are charged by the running of the engine. Without the occasional burst of activity the batteries drain and you can't do things like turn the turret, use the targetting systems and suddenly you're reduced to looking down the barrel of the gun to aim. That means you get a shot off every 60 seconds or so. Hopefully your tanks don't have autoloaders or you're pretty much doomed.

Go away and research how your own kit works, Unified Sith.
Unified Sith
10-04-2004, 23:36
Duristan IDF i would just like t remind you. You aint in the r.p so tough.

Hogsweat, no offence but how can you deffend your nation, send troops to allena and attack me all at the one time. Oh i know you are a large nation but come on even the british empire got over extended and it looks to me that well your well past your limit.
IDF
11-04-2004, 00:00
OOC: I am allowed to RP, this isn't a closed RP and I sent over ships you godmodder
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 00:06
This is a segment of the main RP, which is closed.
Hogsweat
11-04-2004, 00:14
Im not sending troops to Allanea yet, thats wrong information on that thread... im defending the homeland with 1.8 Million troops - invading you with around 2.1, and protecting my colonies and provinces with about 900,000
McLeod03
11-04-2004, 00:21
OOC: I'm guessing this is modern tech? Not say 2025?
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 00:26
I would say 2004-10, but I may be wrong.
McLeod03
11-04-2004, 00:29
OOC: Damn. Oh well. I'll have to put the fun stuff away.

IC:

King James V publicly condones this invasion, seeing it as necessary for the removal of a tyrant from our planet. Should the liberators require funding or military support, just simply ask.
Telemagna
11-04-2004, 00:50
The nation of Telemagna has no wish to see such violence. Give up your plans for conflict and return to your homes and your families.
Chellis
11-04-2004, 00:59
The chellian navy has arrived, with the Volksjaeger divisions on the way. An escort carrier has been cleared, so that a fast division(infantry division that uses helicopters to travel) may requisition its helicopters to bring up infantry to the top of the cliffs, for after the guns have been cleared off.

Two more escort carriers have been put to work, P-3 aircraft have been launching armed with Stryker G2 strike missiles(10 a plane, 50 planes on one mission), firing them at ranges of 100KM, then returning to their ships. Their targets are the static SAMs and guns on the coast. They are fired at their last known location via allied satelites. Even if they go underground, the 1300kg missiles are expected to ruin the movement systems(you have to move them onto the surface somehow, so the cruise missiles should damage the systems that move them too and fro).

Cruise missiles have also been fired at the deep-water island, 600 Stryker G2 missiles from 60 P-3's simultaneously. Chellian attacks are however light, for the real attacks are meant to come from the escort carrier carrying the new V-121 strike aircraft.

Chellian officials believe this shall be an easy war, over an opponent with no naval forces are relying too much on static defense, much like the maginot line.
Chellis
11-04-2004, 01:00
The chellian navy has arrived, with the Volksjaeger divisions on the way. An escort carrier has been cleared, so that a fast division(infantry division that uses helicopters to travel) may requisition its helicopters to bring up infantry to the top of the cliffs, for after the guns have been cleared off.

Two more escort carriers have been put to work, P-3 aircraft have been launching armed with Stryker G2 strike missiles(10 a plane, 50 planes on one mission), firing them at ranges of 100KM, then returning to their ships. Their targets are the static SAMs and guns on the coast. They are fired at their last known location via allied satelites. Even if they go underground, the 1300kg missiles are expected to ruin the movement systems(you have to move them onto the surface somehow, so the cruise missiles should damage the systems that move them too and fro).

Cruise missiles have also been fired at the deep-water island, 600 Stryker G2 missiles from 60 P-3's simultaneously. Chellian attacks are however light, for the real attacks are meant to come from the escort carrier carrying the new V-121 strike aircraft.

Chellian officials believe this shall be an easy war, over an opponent with no naval forces are relying too much on static defense, much like the maginot line.
Kriegorgrad
11-04-2004, 01:16
Could Kriegorgrad send assistance in the form of military forces to aid in the defence of Sargoth island? If so we will send some of our most elite soldiers but would like to know if we could go right [i]through[i\] US to get to Sargoth island as not to lose men fighting throug the blockade, we humbly await your reply.

-Kriegor Zan Varr
IDF
11-04-2004, 01:19
Our President has released control of tactical nukes to the Admiral of the Theater. Upon his order, the Surface Action group fired 96 TLAMs with 10 kiloton warheads (the Nagasaki and Hiroshima blast were 15 KT) at enemy fortifications, military bases, air defense positions, and ports. We are aiming to limit civilian casualties, but know they will occur. Unfortuantely action was needed agaisnt the terrorists.
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 01:23
Nuclear war. Are you insane?
Terrorist? He has not targetted civilians yet!
Well done. Now hes going to retaliate, this whole thing will escalate and millions will die.
96.
IDF
11-04-2004, 01:25
self destruct initiated. Missile fell into the sea without explosion of nukes
A Few Rich People
11-04-2004, 01:26
Really now, there is a big difference between a blockade, a war, or a "OMG WE ARE BIGGER THAN GEW, WE ARE HIGHER UP IN ON THE FOOD CHAIN, GET IN MY BELLY!" war. And my friends you are on the third.

Blockade him, place sactions on him, thats ok, but really now, you are turning into more of an imperialist agressor than Sith ever was. In your attempt to stop a monster you became one yourselves.
IDF
11-04-2004, 01:26
ships have taken reloads of standard TLAMs with conventional warheads of 1,000 Lbs. They launched 196 in the 1st volley and quicly prepared a 2nd
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 01:27
Thank you. There may be hope yet to resolve this without that step being taken.
Unified Sith
11-04-2004, 10:05
The war has already begun read the post on attack on sargoth island. They are attcking me war has been declared.

IDF you are ignored tgis is a 4 nation attackers only read the other posts and you will see who is invited. Goodbye.
Hogsweat
11-04-2004, 11:24
I hereby invite IDF. You cannot limit how many people join an RP Sith. Just look at Allanea's situation. He is against many more nations than you, and still, he resists with no cries of "only 4 nations!!!"
Unified Sith
11-04-2004, 11:38
all assistance is welcome. To send troops to me send them to the british motherland, and they can travel to unified sith and sargoth island from there.
Kriegorgrad
11-04-2004, 11:49
Thank you, I'll be sending 2000 kriegos death korp (elite units) who are armed with OICW's/G-11's. The various armour which consist of Challenger tanks which clocks in at about 500 tanks. Finally infantry components, the infantry is about 5000 men with various weapons which range from support to assault weaponry, M4A1's, grenade launchers, the odd stinger missile and Spas-12 shotguns if the enemy somehow penetrates the island.

One thing also, could you tell me kind of environment it is like inside Sargoth island, because i want to give my men the proper equipment should the coalition filth break through your static defences and into the actual island complex itself.

Once again we await your reply.

-Kriegor Zan Varr
Unified Sith
11-04-2004, 11:59
TOP SECRET


The complex of the island is reinforced concrete. The corridoors are small and narrow, however we do have large bays for the fighters and tanks.
The corridors have blast doors to halt the advance of enemy troops. Automated defences are also within the island. We can seal corridors, gas corridors. All rooms within the complex can be put on lock down so the position of enemy personel can be easily determined.

The complex is basicly a large maze with frequent turns and corners to aid the defenders.

Deep within the complex where we have mined a large cavern (Loading bay), where the exit of the tunnel comes from. This does have blast doors in the evnt of a breech of the tunnel as well as the tunnel itself.
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 12:26
Just for all your info, I have recieved strong reports that Midlonia has not intention of fighting this war. That sounds familiar to me. Something to do with Camewot, and the RIA and him leaving when we arrive to fight his war. Just so you know.
(Apparently this was said by Mid to Sith, on MSN. If you have so much confidence, why not attack me! - may not be word for word but close.
Warmongering, anyone?)
Kriegorgrad
11-04-2004, 15:06
TOP SECRET


The complex of the island is reinforced concrete. The corridoors are small and narrow, however we do have large bays for the fighters and tanks.
The corridors have blast doors to halt the advance of enemy troops. Automated defences are also within the island. We can seal corridors, gas corridors. All rooms within the complex can be put on lock down so the position of enemy personel can be easily determined.

The complex is basicly a large maze with frequent turns and corners to aid the defenders.

Deep within the complex where we have mined a large cavern (Loading bay), where the exit of the tunnel comes from. This does have blast doors in the evnt of a breech of the tunnel as well as the tunnel itself.

Thank you for that information, one thing though, my Kriegos Death Korp are experts in close quarters battle, so could they help defend key points?

Or is it a single command centre? Anyway my men are expert technicians (well the death korp are anyway) and are able to repair any systems that come/get offline/damaged.

Expect my military in position on Sargoth island 4 ns months.

Once again we await your reply and thank you for your cooperation.

-Kriegor Zan Varr
Jaratia
11-04-2004, 18:17
OOC:I have to,he is an alliance member,but that doesn't mean I'm really happy with this whole mess. :?
IC:
The Jaratian troops footed it across the plain to the granite cliffs,some setting up 50. caliber snipers,some GTG and ATA rocket launchers and RPGs,and some heavy machine guns.The cliffs were crawling with activity.If they only had air support...
Suddenly,enemy fighters appeared pretty much out of nowhere and raked the ground with their machine-gun fire,catching troops and throwing them five feet.Some GTA rockets were launched,one exploding right behind an enemy fighter,but most troops were too surprised to do anything,and they just dived for cover and tried shooting in vain after the fighters were almost totally gone.
If they could just wait until the fleet and air support arrived...
Chellis
11-04-2004, 22:04
"What!?!? I didn't approve a RAA strike on the cliffs! Its suicide for god sake!"

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"Yippie ki friggin yay!" yelled 1 of three RAA pilots, who had flown at extremely low altitude to reach the cliffs, then VTOL'd up to attack. Quickly gunning down some troops, they began to fly full speed parallel to the coast, trying to confuse and SAMs.

"Pokchera minov rocktora. Era tis mor ter! Sams!" Yelled one of the pilots, as SAMs destroyed one of the RAA's. They began dropping their 3000 lbs bunker buster bombs on one sam, but little damage was done, and two more sams took out the remaining planes.

OOC:Just did that to coincide with his story.

Also, Jordaxia, if I attacked you, you would be obliterated, but I have no reason to...yet.
Jordaxia
11-04-2004, 22:12
If my support for my ally is reason enough to "obliterate" me, then you are even more of a warmonger than the RIA is. Midlonia has already dared us to attack him, and has told Sith that he won't fight him, so he's running off. Why do you defend Midlonia when he organises wars on people, gets support, then disappears. Thats the ally I wish I still had.
Anyway. Jordaxian military personnel are trained in guerilla tactics. We wouldn't challenge an obviously superior power to an out-out fight. We would disappear and attack you from nowhere. It would be Chellis' vietnam. We do not want this war. We will support our ally, to the death.
IDF
11-04-2004, 23:39
I recommend that we blockade the island so he can't trade and get Combat air patrols to shoot down any planes carrying military aid.

OOC: Our 1st CVBG is being deployed to the blockade

1 KItty Hawk CV USS Constellation
3 Ticonderoga CG
4 Arleigh Burke class DDG
3 Farragut class DDG
2 Perry FFG
1 Spruance DD
2 supply ships
3 688i class SSN

We are also sending the 4th SAG to the area

2 Iowa improved BBG
2 Tico CG
3 Burke class DDG
5 Farragut class DDG

We have sent 2 more Farraguts to join our existing CVBG, I think the 2nd
Central Facehuggeria
12-04-2004, 00:31
OOC: Bump.
Once again, an IC post is pending, depending on wether Hogsweat decides he needs backup. (I'll just tell my pitiful naval forces that I deployed to the area earlier to start launching cruise missiles.)
IDF
12-04-2004, 00:36
I am requesting an RP from my 196 TLAMs launched at SAM sites and military installations.
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 01:20
Sith never has traded by sea, so he is not losing money that way. I would doubt that your missiles would be very effective. He tends to have them undeground most of the time, not just below the surface, but with lifts to carry them up.
The military installations are certainly inpenetrable from bombardment, as they are as reinforced as possible.
Chellis
12-04-2004, 01:41
OOC:An underground sam on a lift can just have the lift damaged/destroyed.

IC:Another chellian bombardment has commenced. However, this time, the cruise missiles are aimed at airfields and cities, as those are the only viable targets given to it.

To Jordaxia: Like I said, we have no reason to fight you yet. However, midlonia is our protectorate, and we have buisness with it. We are supporting it by fighting this war. Also, we don't fear guerilla tactics. We fight with total warfare, and if you were to use vile tactics on us like that, we would burn cities and villages, factories and farms. Chellis doesn't lose.
A Few Rich People
12-04-2004, 01:47
A) Midlonia is NOT under attack! They attacked Sith get that true your thick mother-loving skull! So stop hiding behind your "protectorate" flag and just admit you are warmongering imperialists just like me, Sith, and the RIA!

B) Attacking civilian centers with disregard for what you are hitting really is frowned upon, especially when those you are attacking haven't done anything.

C) They can be repaired if they are only slightly damaged.

D) Chellis can lose because any thoughts of an "invincible" army is a blatent godmod.

E) Are you really sure you want to put that many men into a meat grinder to take some "innocent" (sure he isn't a nice guy but really now, who is?) nation. I don't think your populace is going to like that no matter what system your using.

This post has been psedo-OOC.
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 02:03
Actually, Jordaxia would prefer to fight honourably, all things being equal. We are however, pragmatical, and do not fight stupidly.
Vile tactics like burning cities?
Jordaxia gives up the element of surprise to evacuate civilians from targets, at the expense of our troops lives. Please now. Do not attack me, or Sith. Your aggression is not going unnoted, and you do not have the same reason to go to war with me, as you may do with Sith, as my conduct in the community has been honourable to the extreme.
CoreWorlds
12-04-2004, 03:26
Although Jedi and Sith are not exactly the best of friends, we, too wish to know what entails you to attack Unified Sith.
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 03:33
If you want to know about Chellis, he is invading Sith as part of a deal he has with Midlonia. Midlonia starts a war, chellis turns up, Midlonia disappears. He isn't there for any other reason. Hogsweat and the rest are there also because of Midlonia, but would be there anyway.
Sith proposed genocide. Somebody was in our private forums and noticed. Fast forward to here. It doesn't matter that I told Sith that genocide was unacceptable, people still want to wipe him out.
Also, he used chem weapons on Momanguise troops, but reparations will be paid.
IDF
12-04-2004, 03:33
Sith never has traded by sea, so he is not losing money that way. I would doubt that your missiles would be very effective. He tends to have them undeground most of the time, not just below the surface, but with lifts to carry them up.
The military installations are certainly inpenetrable from bombardment, as they are as reinforced as possible.

The TLAM warheads can be set as bunker busters where they drive into the ground with a delayed fuse. They did that and I need a damage report. The warheads can penetrate fortifications and would crush airfields which are targetted.

IC: Another volley, this one of 244 TLAMs was launched. They quickly reloaded as the Admiral awaited the results
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 03:50
Can I ask you why you are in this war IDF?
Also, I am not Sith, and so am not at liberty to post his casualties.
Also, if you call NORAD a bunker, then yes, you could get through.
IDF
12-04-2004, 03:52
Can I ask you why you are in this war IDF?
Also, I am not Sith, and so am not at liberty to post his casualties.
Also, if you call NORAD a bunker, then yes, you could get through.

Read some of the above posts I was invited. I never said you are Sith I am just posting so when he comes he will
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 03:57
I just thought you had a real IC reason other than invite.
No alliance duties or anything, just killing time?
12-04-2004, 07:25
edited
12-04-2004, 07:26
OOC:Made a modern nation especially for this 8)
If any numbers are overboard,please tell me,I am not a modern tech sort of nation
IC:
The Jaratian fleet was finally chugging into the battle,from behind!
7 Seed Destroyers
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/ships/destroyers/okane/okane-arr.jpg
3 Manatee Carriers
http://www.chinfo.navy.mil/navpalib/factfile/ships/cvn74.gif
with 40 MiG 29's on them each
4 Blue Whale Submarines
http://www.anawa.org.au/weapons/rubis.jpg
with 50 Tomahawk Missiles fitted on to them each
and
9 Pea Shooter Support Ships
http://forensic.to/webhome/massdisaster/kchouest.gif

Soon,the big bangs would begin...
Chellis
12-04-2004, 07:45
OOC:Modern Jaratia, you are one day old. Way too young to participate in a war, especially with 3 carriers and 120 aircraft. I would wait a week before having any military other than infantry and armour.

IC:Jordaxia, you keep infering that im going to attack you when I have no reason. You are prodding me, so watch where you tread.

Chellian citizens are one of the most apathetic to world happenings, and even if they do care about the international scene, they just feel that the country shouldn't have prodded us. They are to consumed in their own lives to worry about those poor foreigners.

Chellis pursues its policy of total warfare, and unless unified sith surrendurs, we will do everything in our power to destroy the enemy. When midlonia asks me to step down, I will, but i am being a good ally right now.

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Semi-ic:Chellian volksjaeger divisions and the two escort carriers have arrived. In a concentrated effort, V-121's hot off the factory have been pressed into action. Carrying bunker-buster bombs and lots of chaff, they fly toward the enemy SAMs. Chellian ships, co-ordinated with the aircraft, fire cruise missiles. As the chellian planes reach the range of the SAM's, the cruise missiles reach the position of the aircraft.

The plan is for the cruise missiles to either hit the SAM's as they come up to hit the chellian aircraft decoys flying at mach 1, or for the V-121's carrying 5,000 pound bunker busters to hit the sam sites at high altitudes and wreck them. It is assumed to work, for either the sams come up to fire on the planes(they have to come up from underground, prepare, fire, then go back down, leaving enough time for the cruise missile to reach if needed.)

In order to prevent the SAM's from being previously prepared for the V-121's, cruise missiles were fired before the planes went, and were to reach the sam site right when the planes reached the range of the SAMs. Thise was done to about 50 sam sites in a line, which is meant to clear a path for short range landings (by F-111 light cargo aircraft or Fa-2 Helicopters), as well as MOHA Radar jammers to block any sams from a longer distance from firing on the landing aircraft, for the short time they will be there.

OOC:I suggest you read this carefully before responding, because I dont see how you can really block your sams without some sort of godmoding.
12-04-2004, 07:49
OOC:Modern Jaratia, you are one day old. Way too young to participate in a war, especially with 3 carriers and 120 aircraft. I would wait a week before having any military other than infantry and armour.

Check on my original nation,Jaratia.Lets say that I'm a sort of "past" Jaratia,before I switched to future tech,alright?(And I switched to future tech when I was about 900 million,so lets say I'm in the 500 millions,alright?)
Chellis
12-04-2004, 08:07
In that case, I associate that with blatant puppetering, and i consider that godmoding, which i ignore.
Unified Sith
12-04-2004, 11:13
I have read very carefully however you seem to not understand my defences. They are all underground untill i put them above ground. At the moment there is very little sam defence. All the shafts are camoflaged. So really at present your forces can fly freely over the island. well not now that you have started an assault.
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 12:20
It is blatant, which I would think, makes it more acceptable. You know who you are dealing with. At least Jaratia is not using his total future tech pop, which is considerably higher.
Kriegorgrad
12-04-2004, 13:16
OOC:
Jordaxia has a point but even if the other guy attacks the commonwealth he is going to get pounded by supierour forces and numbers.

If he's attacking Sargoth island he'd better write up alot of tombstones fast :wink:
Jordaxia
12-04-2004, 13:39
Jaratia is on our side Kriegorgrad, but yes. I would recommend that Jaratia stay away from the blockade for now. There is a huge amount of ships there.
12-04-2004, 16:43
In that case, I associate that with blatant puppetering, and i consider that godmoding, which i ignore.
OOC:Why?I won't be using Jaratia anymore in this RP,and modern Jaratia was made just for this.You want me to bring in Jaratia,and ortillerize you into pretty much nothing?
You might have a bigger pop,but I have the space advantage if you want to bring Jaratia in
Oh,and Jordaxia,yeah,I agree.I just checked the blockade numbers and don't think it would be wise to rush in more than 8 billion dollars into a blazing fire. :wink:
Chellis
13-04-2004, 04:23
OOC:I ignore space nations first off, so i dont need to worry about ortillery. Second off, creating a puppet just to fight is godmodding, you made your choice of space. Also, Unified sith, your forces are underground but satelites, as well as midlonia's prior knowledge of your sites, allow bunker buster bombs to attack them even if you dont raise them. Pointless now, though.

IC: Chellis is pulling all forces from the theatre. Aircraft recalled, troops recalled, ships begin to be pulled back.
IDF
13-04-2004, 04:25
We are sending a group of 20 subs, the Galaxy class SSN, a new design of IDF origin
A Few Rich People
13-04-2004, 04:35
Psedo-OOC:

*cracks knuckles*

I/we of the Mikosolf Corperation, seeing as how the strongest backer of the war/blockade, has determined that the war (which as he himself said) that Midlonia is not even fighting, is not worth fighting for himself either.

Ergo, we strongly sudgest that any remaning forces pull out immediatly or, we must sadly say, be sunk, salvaged, and added to our war machine.

Flowers will be sent to the families of the sailors, marines, and airmen.
Hogsweat
13-04-2004, 09:25
We are withdrawing. However AFRP, we warn you, any more remarks about Hogsweat Shipping and we will sink any of your ships in the area, warranted or not.
IDF
13-04-2004, 13:12
pulling my fleet home-
Kriegorgrad
13-04-2004, 16:16
Well i don't need to be here anymore, now that the commonwealth has just ran off, so back to Kriegorgrad my men go :p