NationStates Jolt Archive


Do you believe in Freedom?

09-04-2004, 04:03
We believe that 'No Man Is An Island". However, one nation may easily be an island, containing all it requires to survive in the world. While it is interesting to view and interact with different people and cultures, it is never acceptable to force your views onto them.

In the interests of Freedom, the region 'Anti United Nations' intends to fight the United Nations and prevent it introducing rules and legislations that intend to control another country's people.

The world may well need a police force and from time to time nations may band together to correct an injustice perpetrated by another nation. We hold evident that the United Nations is a corrupt council and by imposing it's views on others it must itself be corrected.

Join with us and help moderate the force this body wields.

Move your country to 'Anti United Nations' today.
Muktar
09-04-2004, 04:05
One word: cliche.
Kisogo
09-04-2004, 04:09
You don't have to be a member of the UN, you realize. And if you do, which is probablt, the other members of the UN choose to be a member of it. Also, the members vote, so at least the majority is happy.

Cliche.
Rotovia
09-04-2004, 04:13
You don't have to be a member of the UN, you realize. And if you do, which is probablt, the other members of the UN choose to be a member of it. Also, the members vote, so at least the majority is happy.

Cliche.Yes, and you can leave at anytime. You could even leave before a proposal you don't like passes, and return afterwards to remain unaffected by it.

Cliché
09-04-2004, 04:21
What may be a 'cliche' to you, may well be a 'New World Order' to another.

I think you are sort of missing the point.

We are attempting to stop people forcing their opinion onto others. It is about tolerance, letting others have a way of life without being bullied for their beliefs.

It is not that we don't agree with the ideals the United Nations espouses, some of them are quite admirable. We are repulsed by the existance of the UN and what it has become.

You obviously can't resist it yourselves. You cannot even allow this message to be posted without tearing it down to fit your view of the world. This shows the level of brainwashing you have been subjected to.
Kisogo
09-04-2004, 04:23
Now you're trying to force yours on us.
09-04-2004, 04:34
It is a necessary evil. The UN is an uncontained monster, and it is sometimes right to use a wrong to make it right.
The Unreal Soldiers
09-04-2004, 04:57
Tom Clancy taught me that Freedom Isnt Free.
Rotovia
09-04-2004, 04:59
What may be a 'cliche' to you, may well be a 'New World Order' to another.

I think you are sort of missing the point.

We are attempting to stop people forcing their opinion onto others. It is about tolerance, letting others have a way of life without being bullied for their beliefs.

It is not that we don't agree with the ideals the United Nations espouses, some of them are quite admirable. We are repulsed by the existance of the UN and what it has become.

You obviously can't resist it yourselves. You cannot even allow this message to be posted without tearing it down to fit your view of the world. This shows the level of brainwashing you have been subjected to.I think you are missing the point. The UN is voluntary.
09-04-2004, 05:14
Question:

If you saw the leader of a cult forcing their views onto others, making their cult members do thing that harm themselves, you would intervene and stop the cult leader's actions?

Consider the scene from the perspective of the cult member. They believe their leader is doing them well. They also believe they are there of their own free will (they vote to stay?).

We think people are so blind to the all-consuming effect of a body like the United Nations, that they think they are doing the right thing. In reality, they should take a step back and learn to let other countries live their own values and cultures, without telling them, "you should be doing it like this ...".
Rotovia
09-04-2004, 11:04
Question:

If you saw the leader of a cult forcing their views onto others, making their cult members do thing that harm themselves, you would intervene and stop the cult leader's actions?

Consider the scene from the perspective of the cult member. They believe their leader is doing them well. They also believe they are there of their own free will (they vote to stay?).

We think people are so blind to the all-consuming effect of a body like the United Nations, that they think they are doing the right thing. In reality, they should take a step back and learn to let other countries live their own values and cultures, without telling them, "you should be doing it like this ...".Yes, but the UN is no cult. People leave it everyday my the dozens. It's the easiest organisation to leave I've ever been apart of.
Doujin
09-04-2004, 11:06
Tom Clancy taught me that Freedom Isnt Free.

OOC: Great novelist, love his books ;)
New Mozambique
09-04-2004, 11:12
Tom Clancy taught me that Freedom Isnt Free.

Karl Marx taught me that workers of the world should unite.
Big Long Now
09-04-2004, 11:54
Freedom is an impossible goal, while it may be fact one country has more freedoms than another, countries declaring that they are free are only making declarations of false statements.
The Unreal Soldiers
09-04-2004, 13:17
Tom Clancy taught me that Freedom Isnt Free.

OOC: Great novelist, love his books ;)

Same here, and his videogames.
09-04-2004, 13:22
people over 50 shouldn't be able to drive
Nili
09-04-2004, 14:10
Anarchy can be free... If theres only one person there :roll:
Holy Erat
09-04-2004, 14:29
I agree that his point is cliche. You have to respect UN ideals and therefore we must respect yours. But trampling your ideas on us won't change a thing. Do your war, I will only say that it is meaningless, since most individuals join the UN not because they are mandated by their emails, but because of their free will.