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I have invited the following nations to come to my nation and attend peace talks for the socialist rebellion in my country.

Nations which will be allowed to attend.
Any NNA member.
Dr_Twist
Nili
Hogsweat
Doujin
No State At All
Social-Technocracia
Anasia
Kerla
The Volga
Liom
Red Scandinavia
Kuppo
Penterra
Dumpsterdam
Iuthia

If your name is not on this list and you feel you should be allowed to join these negotiations please T-Gram me and give me your reasons as to why you should be allowed to participate, I will decide whether or not you will be allowed to join.

The people of Penterra welcome the chance to set aside our differences and seek a path to peace. Ambassador Kane Deton will arrive in the West Pacific's capital shortly.

Minister Gil is on his way. He would like to make it clear to everyone that peace is achievable in this situation, and that Tiborita hopes that all nations involved in this situation should strive for peace.

I appreciate the chance to attempt to gain as a profitable deal as possible for West Pacific.

The Dr_Twist Government will have an Envoy deployed to the Meeting to talk on Behalf of the RBA.

Social-Technocracia will also be dispatching our Foreign Minister, A. Greene in the hope that negotiations can result in a peaceful solution that will benefit and be approved by both sides.

The Continental Dominion of Liom is Honoured to be asked to attend.The Overseer is sendind his nephew and Minister for Foreign affairs Field Marshall M.T.Hayes.He has full authority to talk on behalf of all 26 nations of the Dominion.

As appointed Foreign Minister of the RBA, Ill send someone too.

Ooc: Who added us? ^ :wink: nevermind I'll play along.

IC: We are sending a envoy to attend the peacetalks.

I am pleased to see such a quick response from all invited parties.

Once we get a few more responses we will start the negotiations.

Zoogiedom foreign ambassador Michael Dillon will arrive shortly with his advisors and secret service agents. We suggest the diplomacy wing (http://s4.invisionfree.com/The_Diplomacy_Wing/index.php?act=site) as a medium for conducting the peace talks.

i'm sending a delegate.

Since most of the major parties have responded I will start the negotiations. Here is where we stand.

The Fascist party was elected by an overwhelming majority, the socialist later rebelled after a peaceful change of ruling parties. NSAA shot down 19 of our planes while they were attempting to bomb the administrative offices of the socialist, Hogweat later invaded and now we are here. So, here are our demands:

1. All foreign nations withdraw their troops from within our borders.
2. NSAA pays us 1.2 billion USD for the loss of 19 planes and they issue a formal apology to the families of the pilots. (19 F-22's at the cost of 68 million USD each) This is negotiable as to the cost. But we will go no lower than 61 Million USD each.
3. We be allowed to continue our attack against these rebels in our country, withour foreign intervention.
4. Any and all sanctions placed on our country be lifted that were implemented as a result of these actions
5. Hogsweat pays us 18 million for the loss of troops and supplies as a result of his paradrops into our country.

These are of course negotiable, we are willing to drop some of these demands given the right offer.

Lutrae is also sending a delegate to the peace talks.

The phone rang in the office of secretary of state George Dailey.

"Hello..." it was ambassador Michael Dillon, calling from West Pacific. "Maybe you were right...maybe it wasn't such a good idea to come after all...maybe it wasn't such a good idea to get involved."

"What happened?" said Dailey.

"West Pacific stated their demands...foreign nations leave WP...NSAA pays WP...(Who is NSAA? Don't know)...WP continues attack on socialist rebels...all sanctions on WP lifted...Hogsweat pays WP...all fairly reasonable of course, but -"

"What?"

"Exactly my point. Three thousand of our soldiers died in the Hogsweat civil war...we fought along the Socialists, the rightful government of Hogsweat against the Facist rebellion...we offered political aid to the rightful Facist government of West Pacific here...both are our allies, and we have fought alongside both (or worked alongside both at least). They are now going at each other..."

"I had a suspicion...our socialist allies are many; we have known of no facist nations until very recently...there is bound to be a conflict somewhere. Hogsweat..."

"What should I do?"

"I'm afraid you'll have to stick with it...stay in West Pacific, and see if you can get that demand dropped."

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In response to the West Pacific demands, Zoogiedom asks that the demand for $18million from the nation of Hogsweat be dropped. While we have few intelligence files of the situation, the amount of money required is minimal and both your nations are our allies...Zoogiedom will offer to compensate triple the amount you request for Hogsweat to both make up for whatever grudges you may have on Hogsweat and for our lack of military support for you so far.

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The Kuppo Foregin minster is glad to see that war was avoided. And we will send an envoy along with the rest of the RBA.

Kuppo will at once withdraw its troops and stop supporting guerilla factions within the WP. we will allow citizens to travel to WP once more

As a communist country, Kuppo is against imperalism. We have no desire to take over and control another nation.

Kuppo's only demand is that the socialist of WP that get arrested be givin a fair trail and spared the death penatly, and that WP does not pursue socialist that flee into other countries, in exchange Kuppo will end the trade embargo and remove troops

We will also bring with us bottles of Kuppo's finist Vodka for all....said to be the best in the world

-Serjai Hanns
Foregin Minister
Federation of Kuppo

Honored as being invited to attend the confrence we decided to attend. We will be sending Jake Bullhorn the assistant director of diplomacy to the conference.

Stephanie Rosen
Premier
Socialist Union of Kerla.

3. We be allowed to continue our attack against these rebels in our country, withour foreign intervention.

We understood that our socialist brothers in WP would be participating in these peace talks.

The Social Democratic Party is also worried that our Socialist comrades are not taking part in these talks and ask that a Socialist representitive arrives to also take part.

The newly created Autocratic Triumvirate(Basically a three-man dictatorship) will be sending one of our members along with an envoy to the peace-talk. We hope he will be of some assistance. He will be arriving by jet as soon as possible.

-Meanwhile on the triumvirate's private jet-

"Sir, we've arrived in West Pacific airspace, is there anything else I can get you?" the female flight attendant looked at Darius, trying not to make direct eye contact with him.

"Nothing that one of my soldiers can't take care of", Darius smiled as the girl walked off and he motioned for a soldier to come over to him and polish his shoes, "Make them spotless, I'll need to look my best for the peace-talks..." Darius stretched out his arms as his smile widened "And the vodka, "Hey did I ever tell you the story of how I got this job?"

"Y-yes s-sir, but please tell it again..." the soldier bit his tongue, he knew what would happen if he angered Darius, with a title like Enforcer of Catharsis he really had quite the temper... "Oh sir, it seems the jet is about to land..."

"Oh well, you'd better get into that seat and put your seatbelt on Dan-what kind of name is Dan anyways? So unoriginal, you need something more powerful if you want to make it anywhere in this world!"

The soldier buckled his seatbelt and nodded, Darius was still a bit tipsy from the party this morning, and the one just before they took off, and the one when they entered the atmosphere...

http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v19/BrianJ/Darius.jpgDarius, Enforcer of Catharsis

The Central Communal Council in Denmark is sending minister of foreign affairs Mogens Lykketoft, as well as stepping down military readiness protocols, expecting a peaceful end to this conflict.

However, we also request that the West Pacific government allows it's socialist rebels to voice their concerns at this meeting. It is indeed our understanding that neo-fascism is an ideology of repressing all who voice criticism and dissent, and as such we do not expect these talks to be easy. Only necessary.

Regards,
Søren Søndergaard,
Communal Premier,
Central Communal Council,
Amalienborg castle, Copenhagen, Denmark.

We are worried that the socialist rebels,that murdered the innocent and started this little coup are going to get away with their crimes simply because they are socialist and their is so many sympathetic nations involvedin these negotiations.The Dominion feels that they should punished for their crimesasthis is the only way that further rebellions will be stopped.

Field Marshall M.T.Hayes
Speaking oh behalf of Liom The Great
Overseer of the Continental Dominion.

[In other news the overseer is proud to announce the end of the Dominion wars that started with the civil war in the Pan Snug alliance.Pavees and Vikingtopia are noe the newest members of the Continental Dominionwhich now numbers 28 nations]

Why would we allow the socialist rebels in my country to send an envoy to these peace talks? They do not represent a sovereign state, nor will they before the next elections. They launched a surprise attack on my nation and the people who had them removed from office. They are rebels not deserving to attend this and will be killed, or captured and tried as murderers after these peace talks. That is the only thing about these negotiations that is non-negotiable, we will resume our attack on the rebels once these peace talks are completed.

Why would we allow the socialist rebels in my country to send an envoy to these peace talks? They do not represent a sovereign state, nor will they before the next elections. They launched a surprise attack on my nation and the people who had them removed from office. They are rebels not deserving to attend this and will be killed, or captured and tried as murderers after these peace talks. That is the only thing about these negotiations that is non-negotiable, we will resume our attack on the rebels once these peace talks are completed.

This is the one demand that Social-Technocracia finds unacceptable. We must insist that the Socialist rebels be present at the meeting as our mission is to negotiate a form of PEACE between both sides, as opposed to simply allowing WP to carry on the slaughter of the Socialist forces. We find WP's current position unacceptable.

No, we will not allow these rebels to be present at these peace talks, the purpose of these peace talks is to remove any foreign influence from these hostilities, not to allow these rebels and traitors to flee unpunished. They killed West Pacific civilians, they killed West Pacific soldiers, and they tried to attack our allies with the intention of killing a large civilian population. The fate of these rebels is non-negotiable, they attacked us first, they will be punished, what do you think the socialist would have done if they had taken power? They would try to destroy all evidence of our existence, the leaders of this government would all be killed, history has proven that that is the course all socialist governments take just after getting power.

No, we will not allow these rebels to be present at these peace talks, the purpose of these peace talks is to remove any foreign influence from these hostilities, not to allow these rebels and traitors to flee unpunished. They killed West Pacific civilians, they killed West Pacific soldiers, and they tried to attack our allies with the intention of killing a large civilian population. The fate of these rebels is non-negotiable, they attacked us first, they will be punished, what do you think the socialist would have done if they had taken power? They would try to destroy all evidence of our existence, the leaders of this government would all be killed, history has proven that that is the course all socialist governments take just after getting power.

You cannot simply decide that, just because SOME and we stress SOME Socialist governments took that course of action in the past means that your Socialist party would do the same! Social Technocracia cannot accept the non-appearance of the Socialists at the talks, and we hope the rest of our comrades will feel the same way. We dont ask that the rebels go unpunished, we ask that they be present at the talks and be allowed to give their side of events. You cannot simply expect us to believe one side of the story told to us by a FASCIST government without other parties backing up your side of events. We feel these talks shouldnt just be about our intervention, and that we should also try to resolve the situation in your country diplomatically. We would like to the see the conflict terminated, therefore avoiding further bloodshed to your civilians.

If the Northern Peoples' Federation of Scandinavia is to cease all consideration of invading the West Pacific, we must be certain that these socialist dissidents are not representing a genuine criticism from a majority. Suspecting that they are, we demand that the West Pacific fascist government allow them to participate in the peace talks.

Regards,
CCC.

I 2nd Social Technocraica proposal. A fair dialogue needs to be addressed by both factions. A truce or at least some talks need to be made before continuing. It would not be in the best intrest for WP to not invite the rebels. History has shown us that violence can't solve violence. Blood can't wash out blood. What makes WP's delegate so sure, that after socialist are sentenced to death for thier crimes, that violence will end. What makes WP so certain that another IRA or Hamas is not working within thier country. The death of socialist will be viewed as martyrs. The rebellion in your country could go on for decades

We need to neogate a fair non-bias talk between the fascist and rebels

I still don't know why I should allow the socialist to attend. Would you allow a shiplifter in here? Would you allow a rapist? Well then why should we allow a bunch of rebels and serial killers to attend these negotiations. As I have said before, we will continue our attacks on the socialist after these talks are done, that is the only non-negotiable term, all other terms are negotiable. Perhaps we could do this, but I tell you what, if it will get you to focus on more important matters I will allow one delegate from the socialist to attend, keep in mind though, I have stated that we will attack after these peace talks, whether or not the socialist have a delegate here. That will only slow down their decline.

Today, the central communal council approved the formation of a committee with which to research and contact the socialist insurgent group inside the West Pacific. Our object is to try and determine exactly what means the "socialists" have been using to get their point across - if their attacks have indeed been indiscriminate and cruel in nature, they are not socialists, nor will they ever be. If their alleged crimes are closer to being a fight of liberation against their government's repression, however, they more than deserve to raise their voice at these talks - they deserve to be heard.

Regards,
CCC,
Copenhagen, Denmark.

The People united can be never be divided.

OCC: I finnaly found the darn thread.
IC: CeleKorn advises West Pacific that if any attack on the EESF ally(s) in The RBA, that the EESF will not hesitate in declaring war on WP.

Jake Bullhorn having just arrived quitly enters and then takes a seat. He then listiens to all the arguements that have been presented. "I would like to say something. I am Jake Bullhorn from Kerla. First of all we would like to see elections in West Pacific. I know that you want us to drop our sanctions." With that said Jake then sits back down. He hopes that he can make a differnce.

Lets see... this little dictator wants nothing of peace...why did he want us here?

"Comrades, I wonder if these peace talks are just to throw us off, while the West Pacific builds his little gas chambers for our socialist brothers."

I think he wanted us here to demand that our forces withdraw, so he could continue his war on the rebels under a banner of truce

I don't think the Socialist Federation of Kuppo played a very big part in WP's problems, so i will yield to the major players of the conflict, which should include the socialist rebels

OCC: I finnaly found the darn thread.
IC: CeleKorn advises West Pacific that if any attack on the EESF ally(s) in The RBA, that the EESF will not hesitate in declaring war on WP.

Umm, yeah, you are not going to bo allowed to attend these peace talks, you were not involved in any previous incidents, so you will not be allowed to attend these peace talks.

It would appeat that nobady here has actually done any research on the history of this incident, it would appear that a majority of the delegates attending believe that we are killing socialist left and right, well that is just a myth. Want to know how this started? Here we go.

1. The Socialist lost the elections by an overwhelming majority, 90% to 10%, 87% turnout.
2. After a peaceful change of power the social loyalist all started to gather around the city of Brandon, the socialist party headquarters
3. We sent in a convoy of supplies to provide needed materials to the 47 million people who had gathered in the area, the convoys were destroyed after they dropped off their supplies.
4. The socialist captured the port city of Grand Rapids and captured a large part of our naval units that were in port.
5. We were attempting to take out the socialist leadership in one swift blow, thousands dead instead of possibly millions, when suddenly No State At All launched SAMs on our planes, almost all were shot down.
6. Hogsweat invaded my country with paratroopers, now we are here.

Hopefully we can come to some sort of agreement, we do not wish to kill all the socialist, we just want the leaders, dead, we will allow the soldiers to rejoin our armed forces, they will be split up amongst the other units, the civialians will be allowed to go back to their homes, provided they are still there.

We would like to see some kind of proof that these elections of yours were fair to international standards. Perhaps you could take another random sample vote so that we could be sure these results are in accordance with what you claim to be your fair election.

Jake then stands up again. This time he is very furious. "How can you see the results are fair. Winning by that are highly unlikely plus the new government banned elections so they are not responsable. This is not a government by the people. We demand a government that is by the people.

Jake then stands up again. This time he is very furious. "How can you see the results are fair. Winning by that are highly unlikely plus the new government banned elections so they are not responsable. This is not a government by the people. We demand a government that is by the people.

Drucker stands up, angered and humored by the ignorance of the delegate from Kerla.

Where are you getting your information? We have not gotten rid elections, in fact, Joseph, hand me the latest congressional voting results, ah yes, here we go, the bill to get rid of elections was 321 to 299, appearently the socialist had just enough support from some more conservative fascist to stop it from being passed.

As for the validness of the last elections, well that is simple, their are 3 major reason why the socialist may have lost by such a large majority.

1. The economy was in a recession, lasting many years, going back all the way to before the previous elections.
2. The people were very angry at the government for backing down so easily when the Anti Terror Army was preparing to invade and Automagfreek stepped in to supposedly stop ATA from invading me, I had actually gathered a coalition of nations to invade ATA and AMF wanted to protect his investments in ATA.
3. People wanted change, the socialist had limited the publication of almost all froms of literature, movies, books, vidoe games, you name it. We had promised to allow and fund these programs if we were elected, that was probably the turning point for our campaign, after we announced that our popularity skyrocketed.

Facts can be found Here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123522&highlight=), with link to original site here (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=123463).

Furthermore this is the ultimate postition of my country.

1. We have no interntion of going hostile with any foreign nations.
2. Our intent is to get any foreign interference out of our niternal problems.
3. Unlike a proper socialist, we will not purge our nation of any objectors, only the highest ranking officers will be put on trial for being traitors to the nation of West Pacific.
4. Socialist regulars will be allowed to either return to their homes of leave the country to a nation which will allow them to enter.
5. Hogsweat and No State At All compensate us for the costs of their attacks.

Considering that
I. Our commitee has found extensive guilt on the part of socialist insurgents in the accusations laid upon them by their government,
and
II. That it is unconstitutional for the Northern Peoples' Federation of Scandinavia to participate in the ousting of and/or war with a sovereign nation whose government is built on a democratic fundament,

The Northern Peoples' Federation of Scandinavia officially WITHDRAWS from the West Pacific peace talks, and steps down military readiness.

Jake stands up again. "You call us ignorant. In fact people in Kerla have one of the highest stanards of living in NationStates. Your economy in a recession can be for many reasons. Tell me why would people want to ban elections? The government of West Pacific is still a government that is NOT by the people are FOR the people. We demand a change. All we want is reqular elections or laws that govern that people that are fair. We do not think that this is tough."

double post

ooc: sorry, been away for 7 days on holiday

ic:

The Volgan Representative, Major-General Kronner, stands up.

"And how can you justify singling out WP? There are many, many nations that do not fulfil your criteria, mine included. Elections are banned in the Most Serene Republic of the Volga, but that does not stop us from having a huge economy, making us a very rich nation. The President is wise enough to rule our nation, and I know that the ruler of WP is capable of the same in his own.

Additionally, it is none of your business as to what happens in WP. When a party states that it is fascist, you can generally tell that it means it plans to completely control the nation. And if the people voted for the fascists, knowing this, then they deserve to not have their wishes misinterpreted by 'well-meaning' socialist states. Generally it is the party in power that rigs an election. So I think the Socialist party deserves some credit for at least not rigging itself, as has happened in other states.

I do not see the connection between ignorance and standards of living. Many nations with high standards of living (*cough* USA) also have mainstream ignorance among society of what goes on in the world. Perhaps you should consider this."

So, does anyone here have any quarrles with my demands? It would appeat that their is little opposition at the time, so unless someone gives me a good reason not to I will be renewing my campaign against the Socialist in 2 days (RL).

The Ineffable Empire requests that it be permitted to send a delegate. The West Pacific's democratically elected government requested our aid in this matter, and we would care to be represented at talks concerning locations to which we may deploy forces.

Jake almost lashes but decides against. Besides he does not wnat them that he has lost control. "Look we want you to stop the attack on the civil liberties of your fellow countryman. You are attacking civil liberaties. The trials will not be fair. We will not let you harm the Socialist so you can control the country and control people. We will not lift the sancations and recgonize the new government."

So you recognize our fascist government but refuse to let us attack these rebels, is that what you are saying? How do you figure that less than ten percent of the population has the right to rule the other 90%+? And why should the trials be fair? The socialist have openly declared war against the true rulers of our country and have commited treason, the only punishment for this crime is death, that was set up by the socialist. No, we will capture and prosecute the leaders and allow the socialist regulars to either return home or can request assylum in any country that will allow them to enter.

Furthermore, we are apalled by the absence of No State At All and Hogsweat at these peace talks, they were the two most active opposition nations, why they are not here is unknown, but whatever the case may be we will try to contact them.

Eeehm...lost track of this thread, sorry...can't promise I'm going to be able to keep track in the future.

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Zoogiedom's delegate speaks up for the first time. "Kerla, you are imssing the point. This is not an attack on the civil liberties of Socialists...this is an attack on rebels who seek to destroy the government of West Pacific. Our only concern about this government is the succession of power, but they have FULL rights to attack those who try to cripple their government."

Since this seems to be a huge problem to my allies I will now tell you how we will choose a new Leader should the current leader be unable to fulfill his duties.

Once the Leader takes office he will fill out a slip of paper listing the order of succession should he be incopacitated, he will list in order 13 people to run the government in his absence, family members will not be allowed to be put on the list. The list will remain in a locked vault, this vault will only open if the Leaders heart stops beating for more than 5 minutes, yes thats right, we have a heart monitor surgically imbedded into the skin of the Leader, that way the list remains secret and their is little chance of an assassination attempt when no one knows who is next in line.

Jake almost lashes but decides against. Besides he does not wnat them that he has lost control. "Look we want you to stop the attack on the civil liberties of your fellow countryman. You are attacking civil liberaties. The trials will not be fair. We will not let you harm the Socialist so you can control the country and control people. We will not lift the sancations and recgonize the new government.""Generally, when a large group of people declares that they do not accept the elected government and band together, arming themselves against it, it means they are rebelling. I'm sure you peace loving hippies in Kerla, with your fancy civil liberties, wouldn't even know what that means, because you all get along so well.

Are you saying we should encourage rebellion? Should we encourage people to revolt against the government, which in this case was elected fairly? Because if you are, you're even more foolish than you had previously appeared to be."

Jake sighs a sigh of relief. This is why he was choosen for this post. Rachel Nelson would not choosen him he did not know how to keep his cool. I know Stepahnie Rosen had a big part in it too. Being premier it is your job to help shape the government. The former director of diplomacy Jennifer Stewart, who is now vice president of the Supreme Executive Council also recomended him. It was an honor being recomended by so many people. Jake stands up again. "First of all you do not understand the politcal nature of the Union. Kerla is a nation of over two billion people. Funny how you call me foolish. You abolished elections, you abolished the way that people have an voice in the government. You call us 'peace loving liberties'. We have bombed a country because of the way an group took power. I will tell you in Kerla you must have an trial if you are charged with an crime. It is as simple as that. We do not accpet your demands. They are not fair. We demand you restore elections. That is all that we demand.

Jake sighs a sigh of relief. This is why he was choosen for this post. Rachel Nelson would not choosen him he did not know how to keep his cool. I know Stepahnie Rosen had a big part in it too. Being premier it is your job to help shape the government. The former director of diplomacy Jennifer Stewart, who is now vice president of the Supreme Executive Council also recomended him. It was an honor being recomended by so many people. Jake stands up again. "First of all you do not understand the politcal nature of the Union. Kerla is a nation of over two billion people. Funny how you call me foolish. You abolished elections, you abolished the way that people have an voice in the government. You call us 'peace loving liberties'. We have bombed a country because of the way an group took power. I will tell you in Kerla you must have an trial if you are charged with an crime. It is as simple as that. We do not accpet your demands. They are not fair. We demand you restore elections. That is all that we demand.
"You simply do not understand. The people of West Pacific did not ban elections. The bill was not passed.

You bombed this country, West Pacific, because of the way the Fascists took power. So you are saying democracy is wrong? Is that what you have a problem with? I was unaware that the demands of West Pacific even effected you, nor that you had the nerve to make counter-demands, when you were not one of the two main Socialist enemies of West Pacific (these being Hogsweat and No State At All).

Your analogy of trials with crimes is quite logical. In the Most Serene Republic of the Volga, we have trials for criminals, despite the lack of elections. It is much the same in West Pacific, except they do have elections here. There is, however, a difference between commiting a minor crime, and making armed rebellion against the government. When rebels arm themselves, and refuse to submit to government control, it is quite hard to bring them to trial. Perhaps in the happy family known as Kerla, armed rebels walk into Police Stations and hand themselves over. Oh wait, sorry, in Kerla you don't HAVE rebellion. You're the perfect country. My faulty memory, sorry.

If you can convince the leading figures of the rebellion to stand trial, I am sure that West Pacific (as he has previously stated) would be more than happy to take them into custody. He has already stated that he does not wish to harm the misguided masses that the Socialist leaders are in command of, but to capture the leaders."

Where did you get your informatiom? We did not bomb West Pacific. Your intelligance is very reliable. I am betting that the lections were rigged. I want to see prove that the lections were far. I highly doubt that they where. The Union has not and never will recognize the new government. The elections were rigged. There are people who do not agree with the actions of the governmnet but they get their voices heard. It is a not a "tyranny by majority" here.

Where did you get your informatiom? We did not bomb West Pacific. Your intelligance is very reliable. I am betting that the lections were rigged. I want to see prove that the lections were far. I highly doubt that they where. The Union has not and never will recognize the new government. The elections were rigged. There are people who do not agree with the actions of the governmnet but they get their voices heard. It is a not a "tyranny by majority" here.
"Sorry, I felt that your statement 'We have bombed a country because of the way an group took power.' implied that it was West Pacific. I don't see why West Pacific has to send proof to you, of all people (a minor player, at the most, in this little shindig) of the legality of his elections. Its his country.

The people who disagree with the government ARE getting their voices heard. The socialists are in rebellion in West Pacific, trying to force the government to do what they tell it. If a group of hardline socialists took to the hills in your country, and refused to submit to authority, what would you do? Have tea and biscuits with them? Or send the army in to put them down?"

Field Marshall M.T Hayes the Continental Dominion of Liom representative had been sitting quietly listening to all that had gone on.He now stood to attention ,in his full military dress as commander of the 1st Fist of the Overseer Front.He spoke in his famous bounding voice........

Hayes:Ahem!!

It is clear to my lord, Liom the Overseer that this issue has the ability to spiral out of hand.The so called facists won the elections ,peacefully and fairly that is clear and the socialists took to arms in opposition of this that is also clear.Therefore it is clear that the socialists are the starters of this little farce and should be punished.The socialist nations involved in support of this coup should back down as it is an internal security issue.The facists have as yet done nothing wrong and so are the legal representatives of the sovereign nation of West Pacific.The other socialist governments should stop seeing this as an attack on socialism and seee it for what it is ie. A legally elected government defending its peoples right to elect whoever it wants.Foreign power in favour or against the socialists should not get involved unless asked by the afore mentioned true government of the West Pacific.

You have to ask Yourselves one question.If your country was under attack from a terrorist elememt inside your countries (who are against your lawful election) would you like outsiders invading your sovereign lands in support of these Terrorists.

So let it be written!!!

Now Erik is furious now, sick of the ignorance and stupidity of the representative from Kerla. Erik gets up and leaves for several minutes before returning. With several heavily armed men at his back.

"Jake, you have been requested to peacefully leave these peace talks, if you refuse you will be placed under arrest and escorted out. Your refusal to see the true facts of these incidents has gone beyond ignorance and into the area of criminal discontent. You have repeatedly attempted to derail these negotiations, all major parties involved have already withdrawn from the peace talks, our primary goal was achieved and now we must request that you leave, before your slander causes a state of war between our two nations. I advise you choose to leave in peace, we do not wish for war and are doing this to try and avoid war, not cause it."

We declare these peace talks over, all representatives are thanked for attending and will be allowed to leave the country as soon as the like. We will resume our attack on the socialist holdouts tomorrow night at a previously decided time and place. The Navy has been ordered to find and destroy the socialist fleet that was threatening our ally Lutrae.

Jake stands up and blurts out "I would caution you arresting me will not be taken lightly by my government. We have the miltary and we are big. We do not like to threaten but threatning me will not work. Unelss of course you listien which I doubt it. Don't tick off my country. I have allies too. Well since you are hostile and won't listien rationally I guess I have to go. Too bad because you could of ended the sanctions instead we will keep the sanctions. Too bad the government of West Pacific can't listien. Don't brother trying to arrest me. I have armed guards too." With that said Jake walks out with 10 armed guards. "Some people" he blurted as he entered the airport to head back to Kerla.

Erik Shouts as Jake walks out.

"If you weren't so god damn stubborn you would have noticed that we had fulfilled your biggest complaint. we never got rid of elections, I posted that as soon as the Legislature voted. You seemed to have skipped that over, it was you stupidity that caused this, and as placing you under arrest, that just would have gotten a ride to the airport in a West Pacific Army APC to be sent back to your country, and don't forget, this is our country, your guards would have done you no good had we used our military stationed all over the Capital, in case something went wrong with the peace talks, as seemed to have happened."

Erik sits down, pissed. Damn it! Why couldn't he just look at the facts, now I have to report to Drucker that Kerla may be preparing for war and that we should follow suit, inform our allies, call up the any guard units that were not yet activated, damn it. How could things come to this, just an example of two egos colliding, this has happened to us before and we were able to avoid war but not by much, and Kerla is much stronger than ATA was, we are in trouble.

While we have officially withdrawn from talks, we wish to let the West Pacific government know that we are willing to grant asylum to socialist irregulars on a person-by-person basis. Overly violent or anti-authoritan rebels will not be granted entry, but we feel we have a compassionate duty to help out those socialists who do not want to stay in a fascist nation.