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If anybody wishes to help fund this storefront in return for production rights, they are wlecome to TG me and inquire.
I am hoping to produce 3 Ekranoplans to begin with.
Firstly, a large troop and armour carrier
secondly, the original "Caspian sea Monster" for anybody who just wants one"
thirdly, an ASW Ekranoplan, which is one of their original design features.
Feel free to register interest
(Established naval storefronts, I would appreciate it if you would give me advice as to how much to charge for these.)

S-90-200 SPECIFICATIONS AND PERFORMANCE
Powerplant 2 x NK-1 2MK turboprops or turbofans
Thrust rating lb (kg) 33,060(15,000)
Length ft (in) 131.2(40.0)
Wingspan ft (in) 199.82(60.92)
Height ft(m) 38.87(11.85)
Wing area w/center section. ft2 (m2) 8,150(757.2)
Center section area ft2 (m2) 5,403(502.0)
Outerwing panel area f2(m2) 2,691 (254.0)
Outer wing panel leading edge sweep angle 1 deg
Outer wing flaperon area ft2 (m2) 307 (28.5)
Tailplane area ft2(m2) 752(69.9)
Tailpiane leading edge sweep angle 33 deg
Tailpiane anhedral -2deg 31
Control surfaces area ft2 (m2) 340(31 .6)
Takeoff gross weight lb (kg) 290,928 (132,000)
Fuel weight lb (kg) 127,832 (58,000)
Wing loading @ norm takeoff weight lb/ft2 (kg/m2) 35.08(172)
Specific power @ max takeoff weight hp/lb (hp/kg) .45 (.227)
Max speed mph (kmh) 292 (470)
Cruise speed mph (km/h) 236(380)
Max range mi (kin) w/220 passengers 4,968 (8,000)
Max flight altitude ft (m) 4,920(1,500)
Ground effect altitude ft (m) 6.6-18(2.0-5.5)
Passenger capacity 220
Max payload lb (kg) 44,080(20,000)"

With removal of the seats, I can now squeeze soldiers inside.
cost is 2million usd
(This is not my plan, but it will let you see what Ekranoplan technology can do.)

Tyrandis already leads the world in Ekranoplan technology with the Fenrir-class Missile Frigate and the in-development CSLP Infantry Carrier.

I just left a message on your store about that. Go read, unless you already have and thats your response.

Your offer of partnership sounds interesting, though Tyrandis will decline.

Hopefully, competition will create the greatest ships in both of our navies.

We are curious, however, as to why you would build the K.M model, which is outdated and excessively large.

The original Caspian? no good reason, other than for people to say that they have them. Why did you base your Fenrir on the Lum?
Unam veritas, the last time I checked offered a tall ship, even though they are useless. Its really just so that you can have one.

Jordaxian contractors have secured the Boeing pelican for construction.
Details as follows.
wingspan 153m
Wig height 6m
max speed 350 mph
max altitude 6100m overland
max takeoff weight 3000 tons (about 17 MBT's crew and ammo)
range in Wig effect 18,530km
range out of wig 12,045 km
cost to be decided. Is on sale. TG for price.

The JXN-12, our ASW Ekranoplan is now ready for purchase.
The JXN-12 is used to carpet large areas with depth charges, along with sonar bouys to give directions to the charges (put a rudder on top, as it falls little radio signals order the engine that moves the rudder left to right, controlling its descent.
The basic frame for the JXN-12 is that of the s-90-200, with a rear door that releases charges and sonar bouys.
Bouys are dropped 30 at a time, with 2 bouys with them.
There are 4 sections in the ship, so 120 charges in total.
This can be modified to however many you want dropped at a time, but the standard is 30.
Cost is 8 million.

bumping for business. (7th page who'd find it!)

Shocking. simply shocking. A vehicle that will revolitionise transport and supply lines world wide, and nobody buys it? If you don't want something that can fly like an standard aerial transport. Move at about 350mph. Fly just 6 feet above the ground. Carry 17 MBTs, on its lower deck, and about 700 troops on top! Can land at any airbase, or function like the far smaller hercules! (Imagine the effect of dropping 17 MBTs and 700 men behind lines in a flank.) Then imagine being able to have any number of planes that can do this. 7 can drop over 100 tanks and 4800 men anywhere! If nobody needs that advantage when in a war, fine. But I doubt it. Buy the JXN pelican!
(Thats one long way of saying: Bump!)

Jordaxia, while the WIG craft is a great idea, it hasn't really caught on IRL either. (Of course, that was because Brezhnev killed the program.)

Either that, or people are building their own. In fact, the Federation uses its own WIG designs for transportation between outlying islands and the main continent.

Hopefully, in time. I'm going to use the Pelican. When people see how efficient they are, maybe then they will buy.
(I know how they work and all that, but don't have any inspiration for a blueprint. (I'm thinking of a fast attack surface fighter. (Think a standard airborne that flies at about 4 feet, so is exceptionally difficult to hit.) Then you have it with say 10 rockets on, and it can strike the hull of a ship very quickly, with minimal risk. Couple this with the low cost and efficiency, and I could have swarms of about 200, flying in between fleets, disrupting and destroying ships with impunity. (Quite maneuverable too.)) In fact. Thats my inspiration there. I'm going to work on it and get back soon.
If you want, I'll keep you posted on it. It sounds very, very interesting to me.

Jordaxia, while the WIG craft is a great idea, it hasn't really caught on IRL either. (Of course, that was because Brezhnev killed the program.)

Either that, or people are building their own. In fact, the Federation uses its own WIG designs for transportation between outlying islands and the main continent.

Yep, I built my own a few months back.

Yes, but nobody has the JXN-87, the new model of WIG fighter!

Using small scale wig technology, the JXN-87 is the only "naval superiority fighter" in the modern world! (At least, I hope so.)
The JXN has 12 (your choice) missiles on board, flies about 5 feet above the surface, and 2 30 mm cannons, for use against any opposition WIG fighters developed. The high speed attainable by the JXN renders most heavy guns useless, as they have no chance of hitting.
Skilled pilots can also use the JXN to "Jump" 70 feet into the air temporarily. The speed attainable by the JXN comes in at about 130 mph. (Not fast for a fighter, but this isn't designed to fly supersonic.)
The JXN is designed to disrupt and destroy naval fleets by swarming inside, whilst large ships perform most of the damage. This is not to say that the JXN cannot destroy ships, on the contrary, it is a powerful force en masse, but that it is best used as a disruption/raiding role.
The JXN crews 4, I pilot 3 optional.
JXN will retail for 2 million usd.

Keep us posted on what you come up with. Images of the designs would go a long way in selling the concept.

I am fully aware. I could post links, as whenever I try to post them they don't appear. (The JXN-87 is a militarised version of the Flarecraft, a civilian WIG craft. Design flaws have been solved, inlcuding a tougher rudder to prevent "wiggling" and moving the fuel tank to a more centralised position for stability. Heres the link to the original chassis. Jordaxian parade JXN-87s are painted black and yellow.
Also imagine several missiles (6 per side) on each wing.
The missiles can be placed there as it is primarily the edge of the wing that provides ground effect.

http://www.merrifield-roberts.com/development/flarecraft.html

Ah, okay. I am familiar with that configuration.

This is one of the transports my nation's airlines use.

http://phalanx.i8.com/FACS/civilian/X_ekplan1.GIF

I think that is a perfect design for a WIG fighter, well, once I ironed out its faults and gave it guns. :)
Whats the load that your transport can carry?

I think that is a perfect design for a WIG fighter, well, once I ironed out its faults and gave it guns. :)
Whats the load that your transport can carry?

That is actually a pleasure ship and can accomodate up to 450 passengers comfortably.

450? thats a fair size. How high can it fly if forced to, or if it wanted to.
The pelican can hit 6100 m and carries 700 troops on the top deck and 17 tanks below. If you want I can modify it, add seats and luxury, and hey presto, its a gigantic civilian aircraft. If you want, give a price.
(The total wing area is 1 acre, so it is a WIGcraft of consideable size.)

450? thats a fair size. How high can it fly if forced to, or if it wanted to.
The pelican can hit 6100 m and carries 700 troops on the top deck and 17 tanks below. If you want I can modify it, add seats and luxury, and hey presto, its a gigantic civilian aircraft. If you want, give a price.
(The total wing area is 1 acre, so it is a WIGcraft of consideable size.)

In an emergency, it can fly at an altitude of 400 feet.

not bad, considering its not usually in WIGcraft designs to fly so high.
The pelican flies so high as it lands at airfields, and may need to rise above a large height to avoid combat. (losing that many tanks and soldiers due to a well placed rocket or 9 would be unacceptable)

not bad, considering its not usually in WIGcraft designs to fly so high.
The pelican flies so high as it lands at airfields, and may need to rise above a large height to avoid combat. (losing that many tanks and soldiers due to a well placed rocket or 9 would be unacceptable)

One of the major resort cities is situated near some low cliffs and bluffs overlooking the water. In an emergency ground landing, some altitude would be required.

ah. Oh well. I'm making fighters for myself anyway. when battles start to shift into my favour more and more as the technology gets better, people will start to buy. If you want, you can have 1 pelican, outfitted as a civilian plane, outfitted and sent to you for the amazing price of NOTHING.
Thsi makes a huge loss on my part, but word of mouth, and keeping this on the front page for that little bit longer is worth a lot to me. If you accept, say so and it will be sent. It will be painted in ACS national colours too.

Thank you for the offer, but being the good capitalist I am... I couldn't take something for nothing.

Your choice. no loss for me!