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B-7E "Vampire" Bomber - For Export [Pic Warning]

Autonomous City-states
06-04-2004, 17:54
Brought to you by popular demand, Transdynamics Consortium offers the B-7E Vampire multirole bomber for export to Federation allies and confirmed friendly nations!

Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Transdynamics Consortium
Operations, Air Frame, and Integration: Novadyne Engineering
Power Plant: Four General Defense Industries E-1200 hybrid pulse-detonation engines
Thrust: 55,000-plus pounds per engine
Length: 155 feet
Wingspan: 145 feet
Height: 35 feet
Design Maximum Takeoff Weight: 477,000 lbs.
Speed: Mach 1.14 (750 mph) max @ 500 ft.
Absolute Max Speed: Mach 2.6 @ 50,000 feet (1,716 mph)
Range: 8,200 miles unrefueled
Ceiling: Over 60,000 feet
Crew: Four (aircraft commander, pilot, offensive systems officer and defensive systems officer)
Armament: Up to 96 conventional 500-pound bombs, or 36 cluster bombs, or 28 cruise missiles
Unit Cost: $225 million per airframe

http://phalanx.i8.com/FACS/aerospace/X_bombdrop.GIF
The Vampire conducting bomb drop tests

http://phalanx.i8.com/FACS/aerospace/X_bombertest.GIF
The Vampire in flight

http://phalanx.i8.com/FACS/aerospace/X_vampire-b.GIF
The Vampire-B rocket launch platform

Specifications same as B-7E except as follows:
Max Speed: Mach 0.95
Range: 3500 miles unrefueled
Crew: Six (aircraft commander, pilot, communications officer x2, launch officer x2)
Armament: None
Payload: One Javelin low earth orbit (LEO) rocket
Unit Cost: $230 million per airframe
United Elias
06-04-2004, 18:12
what program did you use?
Scandavian States
06-04-2004, 18:13
[You should probably just put maximum payload in terms of pounds or kilos. There isn't anything that really seperates a 500lb bomb from a 500lb cluster bomb except for the kind of explosives it carries. And cruise missile vary a lot by size and weight, so setting a fixed number is... unlikely to be accurate.]
Autonomous City-states
06-04-2004, 18:14
what program did you use?

DOGA-L2
Autonomous City-states
06-04-2004, 18:16
[You should probably just put maximum payload in terms of pounds or kilos. There isn't anything that really seperates a 500lb bomb from a 500lb cluster bomb except for the kind of explosives it carries. And cruise missile vary a lot by size and weight, so setting a fixed number is... unlikely to be accurate.]

Point noted on the cluster bombs. However, the number of cruise missiles it can carry is determined by the three internal rotary launchers with 8 sections each and four external hardpoints.
Scandavian States
06-04-2004, 18:29
[I see, the second point goes to you, then. If Zoogie can't offer me a heavy bomber that I like, expect me to place a huge order for some of these.]
Autonomous City-states
06-04-2004, 18:49
We would be more than pleased to take your order, Scandinavian States.
Autonomous City-states
06-04-2004, 20:08
http://phalanx.i8.com/FACS/aerospace/X_javelin.GIF

The Javelin Low Earth Orbit (LEO) launch vehicle is designed to be deployed from the B-7 B-variant and can carry a maximum of 10 tons to a 200 mile circular orbit.

Unit Cost: $185 million
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 04:41
OOC: Bump.
Kilean
07-04-2004, 05:02
The Kilean Air Force wonders just how "friendly" you have to be to get ahold of one of these bombers....

Is it possible to create a variant of these for Kilean service? We'd pay good money and have a solid domestic areospace industry to draw upon. Kileanishe leaders would be very interested in co-production/co-design of a Vampire-derived design.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 05:12
The Kilean Air Force wonders just how "friendly" you have to be to get ahold of one of these bombers....

Is it possible to create a variant of these for Kilean service? We'd pay good money and have a solid domestic areospace industry to draw upon. Kileanishe leaders would be very interested in co-production/co-design of a Vampire-derived design.

The Federation generally considers nations that have a capitalist leaning as "friendly."

Transdynamics Consortium is more than willing to make arrangements for the Kilean Air Force's needs.
Xeraph
07-04-2004, 05:13
Greetings from Xeraph!

We are very impressed with this new bomber. We would like to place an order for 40 of them. At 225 million each, the grand total comes to 9 billion USD.
Automatic payment upon confirmation of order.

respectfully,

Alaric, King of Xeraph, Protector of Xeraphian Federation, Councilor Prime of GAPTS
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 05:17
The order for Xeraph is confirmed. The first eight airframes will be delivered in one NS year. The remaining 32 airframes will be delivered eight a year, for four NS years.
Kilean
07-04-2004, 05:40
The Kilean Air Force wonders just how "friendly" you have to be to get ahold of one of these bombers....

Is it possible to create a variant of these for Kilean service? We'd pay good money and have a solid domestic areospace industry to draw upon. Kileanishe leaders would be very interested in co-production/co-design of a Vampire-derived design.

The Federation generally considers nations that have a capitalist leaning as "friendly."

Transdynamics Consortium is more than willing to make arrangements for the Kilean Air Force's needs.


Excellent. Kilean is a nation with strong "state capitalist" leanings, and our industries and free enterprise flourishes under the watchful eye and protection of the govenment.

The KAF is in need of a low-level bomber that can penetrate air defense systems. This bomber would complement the high altitude, subsonic, heavy payload "Donner" strategic bombers we've developed. A Vampire with increased ECM abilities as well as added missile decoy systems and the ability to carry a yet-developed anti-radiation missile for the penetration of air defenses. Various internal modifications- such as the ability to carry heavier conventional bombs and tactical missiles- and miscellaneous equipment changes would also be made to make the variant fully compatable with the KAF.

In additon, we want the aircraft to be fitted with the Kilean Luftwerke FZ-2500 afterburning engines. They're more expensive than the engines you've fitted, and slightly heavier, but are much more powerful and would give the Vampire the ability to make a low-altitude "dash to target" of around mach 2.1 at 2,000 feet.

Naturally, there will be trade-offs, and we're willing to shortchange fuel tankage for more ECM and engine weight. We're interested in the Vampire as a strategic- but not intercontinental- bomber with a primary task of air defense penetration and strategic strike missions, and a secondary nuclear delivery role.

Kilean Luftwerke would like to make this a joint project with the Autonomous City-states, with final fitting-out of the aircraft taking place in Kilean Luftwerke facilities.
Kotterdam
07-04-2004, 05:41
The Dominion of Kotterdam wishes to procure fifty examples of the B-7E Vampire to replace the aging B-2B Lancer bombers currently in service with the Dominion Air Force. Supposing you can offer them to us at the same rate as you did Xeraph, we will pay you $11.25 Billion over the course of the next seven years, or whatever time scale you find appropriate.

Hon. Sandra Berehzin
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Dominion of Kotterdam
Layarteb
07-04-2004, 05:48
Seems like of flimsy to me. What kind of ECM does it have?
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 05:50
Excellent. Kilean is a nation with strong "state capitalist" leanings, and our industries and free enterprise flourishes under the watchful eye and protection of the govenment.

The KAF is in need of a low-level bomber that can penetrate air defense systems. This bomber would complement the high altitude, subsonic, heavy payload "Donner" strategic bombers we've developed. A Vampire with increased ECM abilities as well as added missile decoy systems and the ability to carry a yet-developed anti-radiation missile for the penetration of air defenses. Various internal modifications- such as the ability to carry heavier conventional bombs and tactical missiles- and miscellaneous equipment changes would also be made to make the variant fully compatable with the KAF.

In additon, we want the aircraft to be fitted with the Kilean Luftwerke FZ-2500 afterburning engines. They're more expensive than the engines you've fitted, and slightly heavier, but are much more powerful and would give the Vampire the ability to make a low-altitude "dash to target" of around mach 2.1 at 2,000 feet.

Naturally, there will be trade-offs, and we're willing to shortchange fuel tankage for more ECM and engine weight. We're interested in the Vampire as a strategic- but not intercontinental- bomber with a primary task of air defense penetration and strategic strike missions, and a secondary nuclear delivery role.

Kilean Luftwerke would like to make this a joint project with the Autonomous City-states, with final fitting-out of the aircraft taking place in Kilean Luftwerke facilities.

Such a trade off is certainly possible. The strengthened airframe and greater payload would lower range by about 15% and increase cost by $15 million. The enhanced avionics and ECM above and beyond the normal package would add an additional $20 million to cost.

With your specifications, the airframe would cost about $260 million in total if built in one of our factories. Transdynamics Consortium can build the airframe and basic systems, then ship the airframes to you by strategic airlift dirigibles for final outfitting with Kilean engines and ECM gear for $240 million per airframe.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 05:52
The Dominion of Kotterdam wishes to procure fifty examples of the B-7E Vampire to replace the aging B-2B Lancer bombers currently in service with the Dominion Air Force. Supposing you can offer them to us at the same rate as you did Xeraph, we will pay you $11.25 Billion over the course of the next seven years, or whatever time scale you find appropriate.

Hon. Sandra Berehzin
Minister of Foreign Affairs
Dominion of Kotterdam

Sale confirmed.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 05:59
Seems like of flimsy to me. What kind of ECM does it have?

The B-7's offensive avionics include forward-looking offensive radar set employing synthetic aperture radar, ground moving target indicator and terrain-following radar modes, a Global Positioning System/Inertial Navigation System, the avionics control unit complex, a Doppler radar, and a radar altimeter. These features enable aircrews to globally navigate, accurately refine aircraft position without the need for ground-based navigation aids, update mission information and target coordinates in-flight, and perform precision bombing.

The B-7's electronic jamming equipment, infrared countermeasures, radar location and warning systems complement its low-radar cross-section and form an integrated defense system for the aircraft that supports penetration of hostile airspace. The current defensive avionics system consists of the radio frequency surveillance/electronic countermeasures system, the tail warning function, and the expendable countermeasures system, and is supplemented by a fiber-optic towed decoy system (TDS).

The defensive avionics system is a comprehensive electronic countermeasures package that detects enemy threats and applies the appropriate countermeasures, such as electronic jamming or dispensing expendable chaff and flares to protect against radar-homing and heat-seeking missiles. The TDS complements the system by providing greater protection against RF threats. Low-radar cross-section is provided by the combination of aircraft structure and radar-absorption materials. Similar to the offensive avionics, the defensive suite has a reprogrammable design that allows in-flight changes to be made to counter new or changing threats.
Layarteb
07-04-2004, 06:03
Not bad. My B-4A Magnum, which is probably the counter-part: a high-speed heavy stealth bomber has much of the same types of ECM, primarily with reprogramming.
Kilean
07-04-2004, 06:05
An excellent situation. The KAF wants to operate two wings (36 each) of these craft eventually. With additions for testing and atrittion, the final order would come out to 80 airframes, eventually to be designated the SB-2 "Visgoth"

SB-2 Visgoth strategic bomber

Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Transdynamics Consortium/Kilean Luftwerke
Operations, Air Frame, and Integration: Kilean State Armaments
Power Plant: Four Kilean Luftwerke FZ-2500 afterburning jet engines
Thrust: 65,000-plus pounds per engine
Length: 155 feet
Wingspan: 145 feet
Height: 35 feet
Design Maximum Takeoff Weight: 520,000 lbs.
Speed: Mach 2.1 max @ 2,000 ft.
Absolute Max Speed: Mach 2.9 @ 50,000 feet
Range: 7,600 miles unrefueled
Ceiling: Over 60,000 feet
Crew: Five (aircraft commander, pilot, offensive systems officer, electronic countermeasures officer, and defensive systems officer)
Armament: 52,000 lbs of conventional weapons, cruise missiles, standoff missiles, or freefall nuclear bombs.


Hope that checks out okay?

Thank you, by the way- The Autonomous City-states have a very good name in Kilean right now.
Layarteb
07-04-2004, 06:07
Pretty heavy bomb Kil but not bad at all. Here's my B-4A Magnum. If it helps either of you out in designing something then cool.

http://www.theforsakenoutlaw.com/Graphics/Nation-States/Export/b4.jpg
B-4A Magnum (SPECIAL TOP SECRET UNKNOWN SYSTEM)

Role: Stealth bomber
Crew: 4
Cost: $800M
Length: 150.00 ft.
Wingspan: 138.00 ft.
Height: 32.28 ft.
Empty Weight: 168,000 lb.
Maximum Weight: 565,000 lb.
Fuel Weight: 340,000 lb.
Armament Weight: 60,000 lb.
Powerplant: two General Electric F600-X100 non-afterburning turbofans
Maximum Thrust: 150,000 lb
Maximum Speed S/L: 800 mph
Maximum Speed @ Altitude: 1,350 mph
Initial Climb Rate: 20,000 ft/min
Service Ceiling: 82,000 ft.
Range: 10,000nm [combat]; 14,000nm [ferry]
G-Limits: -2 / +4
Gun: None
Stations: 3 internal bays; 1 ventral and 2 to the side of the ventral bay
Air-to-Air Missile: Up to 8 air to air missiles in the side bays (4 per bay) either AIM-9X or AIM-120
Air-to-Ground Weaponry: Up to 5,000 lb. of ordinance per side bay giving 8 AGM-88 or AGM-158 or 4 AGM-84 or AGM-158; ventral bay can hold up to 50,000 lb. of ordinance giving 12 CALCMs or ACMs, 96 GBU-38, 48 GBU-35, 24 GBU-34, 8 GBU-28, 24 Paveway IIIs, 24 AGM-84s, 36 AGM-88s, and other assorted ordinance
Avionics: CLASSIFIED
ECM: Internal jamming systems jam all known bands of radar; IR suppression systems reducing heat signature by 1000%; 1320 chaff bundles, 1320 flares
Radar Signature: 1/10000th of a square yard (approximately 1/1000th that of the F-117 and seagull)
Known Variants:
YB-4 Prototype
B-4A Initial production design; 50 built
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 06:18
An excellent situation. The KAF wants to operate two wings (36 each) of these craft eventually. With additions for testing and atrittion, the final order would come out to 80 airframes, eventually to be designated the SB-2 "Visgoth"

SB-2 Visgoth strategic bomber

Primary Function: Long-range, multi-role, heavy bomber
Builder: Transdynamics Consortium/Kilean Luftwerke
Operations, Air Frame, and Integration: Kilean State Armaments
Power Plant: Four Kilean Luftwerke FZ-2500 afterburning jet engines
Thrust: 65,000-plus pounds per engine
Length: 155 feet
Wingspan: 145 feet
Height: 35 feet
Design Maximum Takeoff Weight: 520,000 lbs.
Speed: Mach 2.1 max @ 2,000 ft.
Absolute Max Speed: Mach 2.9 @ 50,000 feet
Range: 7,600 miles unrefueled
Ceiling: Over 60,000 feet
Crew: Five (aircraft commander, pilot, offensive systems officer, electronic countermeasures officer, and defensive systems officer)
Armament: 52,000 lbs of conventional weapons, cruise missiles, standoff missiles, or freefall nuclear bombs.


Hope that checks out okay?

Thank you, by the way- The Autonomous City-states have a very good name in Kilean right now.

We have a deal. Kilean will have a good spot in our dossier now.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 07:36
Not bad, Layarteb.
Layarteb
07-04-2004, 09:17
Not bad, Layarteb.

She's a bute! Between the F-24, F-19, F-25, and B-4 the awesome power is just phenominal.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 09:26
Nice stuff on your site, too. Check mine out sometime.

http://phalanx.i8.com/
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 13:03
ARDRA (The Advanced Research, Development, and Reverse-engineering Agency) has taken possession of the XB-7 technology demonstrator prototype for testing of military-grade QNR hardware.

While this has no immediate effect on B-7E exports, some press analysts in the Federation are wondering if a downgraded QNR could be adapted for the B-7E.
McLeod03
07-04-2004, 15:23
MAFCC would like to place an order for one squadron (twelve airframes) of B-7s, and two additional airframes to be sent for additional modifications to EB- standard. All funds will be transferred on confirmation, and should the EB- modifications deem successful enough, a much larger order may be placed later to upgrade the entire EB-1 fleet.


OOC: Quick thought, would this be compatible with ANTARES? :twisted:
Scandavian States
07-04-2004, 16:06
As promised, we will be making an order. We would like 360 aircraft manufactured to the Kilean standard. Money will be wired once order is confirmed.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 16:25
MAFCC would like to place an order for one squadron (twelve airframes) of B-7s, and two additional airframes to be sent for additional modifications to EB- standard. All funds will be transferred on confirmation, and should the EB- modifications deem successful enough, a much larger order may be placed later to upgrade the entire EB-1 fleet.


OOC: Quick thought, would this be compatible with ANTARES? :twisted:

Order confirmed.

OOC: :twisted: It is possible.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 16:27
As promised, we will be making an order. We would like 360 aircraft manufactured to the Kilean standard. Money will be wired once order is confirmed.

Order is confirmed. Deliveries will be made at 36 airframes a year for 10 NS years.
McLeod03
07-04-2004, 16:28
OOC: Hehehehehehehehe

IC: MAFCC extends its thanks at your prompt reply, and will try to get back to you as soon as possible regards further purchases.
Scandavian States
07-04-2004, 16:35
As promised, we will be making an order. We would like 360 aircraft manufactured to the Kilean standard. Money will be wired once order is confirmed.

Order is confirmed. Deliveries will be made at 36 airframes a year for 10 NS years.

At $260,000,000 per aircraft, that should come to $93,600,000,000. We thank ACS for their excellent service and aircraft.
07-04-2004, 16:37
The teeny yet ambitious nation of Righteous Intolerance would like to purchase exactly... one... Vampire, prefferably with the ECM enhancements you discussed with Kilean.

Assuming, of course, that we are considered "friendly." :D

Anyhoo, considering the smallish size of our order, we feel that it might be somewhat easy for you to complete the order in a short timeframe, yes? If not, then we would be willing to pay for a rush delivery.

So, I believe the order comes out at $245 million with the added ECm capabilities. Money (including reasonable rush charges) to be sent upon verification of order. Rush fees considered to be unfair will be discussed.

Danke.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 16:51
We will fill the Righteous Intolerance order on the condition your government works to improve its protections of human rights and liberties.
OfLower Urban Gorrilas
07-04-2004, 17:21
i would like to Purchase 60 of your bombers,,at the purchase price of 225 million per copy. The total price is 16,5 billion. If there are any descpancies pleas notify me at the e-mail address..

jokersr02@aol.com

Thanks
J Reeves
Ruler of the United States of Urban Lower Gorrilas
The deadly viper
07-04-2004, 17:26
could a vampire b be modified to take huge balistic missiles instead of a leo :D
McLeod03
07-04-2004, 17:32
Oh, and as for bombers:

EB-1C Vampire
Class: Airborne battleship/advanced bomber
Crew: 4 (Aircraft Commander, Pilot/Navigator, Defensive Systems Operator, Offensive Systems operator)
Length: 144 ft
Width: 79 - 138 ft (depending on mission adaptive wing sweep)
Height: 39 ft
Powerplant: 4 x MAIE-764 afterburning turbofans
Maximum speed: Mach 2.3
Cruise speed: Mach 1.02
Range: 8500 nm
Combat radius: 3500 nm
Ceiling: 47,500 ft
Armament: Three internal bays carrying a vast array of AGM, ASM, and AAM payloads.
Stealth: Vastly reduced RCS
Electronics: LIDAR system, Limited band jamming equipment, active countermeasure device, chaff and flares.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 17:36
i would like to Purchase 60 of your bombers,,at the purchase price of 225 million per copy. The total price is 16,5 billion. If there are any descpancies pleas notify me at the e-mail address..

jokersr02@aol.com

Thanks
J Reeves
Ruler of the United States of Urban Lower Gorrilas

Private enterprise is illegal in your nation. That is highly anti-capitalist. Try again after your nation has adopted polices more conducive to a free market.
Autonomous City-states
07-04-2004, 17:41
could a vampire b be modified to take huge balistic missiles instead of a leo :D

It could be modified to carry weapons... but, why would you? Transdynamics Consortium builds the B-variant airframes solely as noncombatants. You'd have to find someone else to do the modifications and we would have to license it... which isn't going to happen any time soon.
Layarteb
07-04-2004, 19:44
Nice stuff on your site, too. Check mine out sometime.

http://phalanx.i8.com/

Very impressive indeed. Isn't imagination great? My real pride and joy though is my navy. As you saw it is certainly in the big boy league. After all, he who controls the seas controls the world.
Autonomous City-states
08-04-2004, 07:11
Testing of the QNR-equipped Vampire is underway.
Autonomous City-states
09-04-2004, 17:01
Flight testing of the Vampire testbed is complete.
Autonomous City-states
10-04-2004, 15:18
Rumors that the ARDRA is developing unmanned bombers with QNR propulsion to have both dramatic range increases and an extremely quiet noise signature circulate amongst conspiracy theorist websites and aviation nuts.
Autonomous City-states
22-07-2004, 16:48
The "Vampire" bomber and its civilian space launch variant are still for sale.
Ilek-Vaad
22-07-2004, 17:50
The Free Republic would like to order 5 Squadrons (30) of these bombers. They are slower and fly lower than our Death's Heads sub-orbital bombers, but the Vampire has a much, much larger payload capacity.

As per Vaadian law, the Minister of Economics must register the company that sells these as a legal vendor to the Free Republic. If you have any questions about registration, please telegram the Minister of Economics.

Minister of Defence, Ilek-Vaad
Autonomous City-states
23-07-2004, 01:56
Order confirmed. Transdynamics would be happy to register as a legal vendor.
Melkislov
23-07-2004, 03:25
The Federation of Melkislov is going to purchase one B-7E.
Total Cost:230 million dollars

Courtesy of The Federation of Melkislov,
President,Vladimir Nemerov
McLeod03
23-07-2004, 03:29
MAFCC would like to place an order for some two hundred and fourty B-7 Vampires, following rigorous trials of our own EB-7 modifications. We do however ask that this order be placed on hold until the end of the current conflict, or until safe delivery can be guaranteed, so that these fantastic machines do not fall into the wrong hands.
Autonomous City-states
24-07-2004, 12:41
The Federation of Melkislov is going to purchase one B-7E.
Total Cost:230 million dollars

Courtesy of The Federation of Melkislov,
President,Vladimir Nemerov

Order confirmed.
Autonomous City-states
24-07-2004, 12:42
MAFCC would like to place an order for some two hundred and fourty B-7 Vampires, following rigorous trials of our own EB-7 modifications. We do however ask that this order be placed on hold until the end of the current conflict, or until safe delivery can be guaranteed, so that these fantastic machines do not fall into the wrong hands.

Your order is confirmed. As requested, the order will be placed on hold until we can guarantee safe delivery to the proper recipients.
Autonomous City-states
25-07-2004, 15:05
The first twenty McLeodian bombers have been packed up for delivery, pending authorization by approved McLeodian agents.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
25-07-2004, 15:10
We'll take ten.

$2,300,000,000.

Money to be wired upon cofirmation.
Autonomous City-states
25-07-2004, 15:14
As a matter of company policy, Transdynamics does not normally sell to nations that have criminalized free enterprise. We are a free market capitalist corporation and believe it is counterproductive in the long run to prop up anti-capitalist regimes.
Nazi Weaponized Virus
25-07-2004, 19:32
As a matter of company policy, Transdynamics does not normally sell to nations that have criminalized free enterprise. We are a free market capitalist corporation and believe it is counterproductive in the long run to prop up anti-capitalist regimes.

Free enterprise in Government Industries such as power and water are illegal. Other smaller enterprises are allowed. And yes it is true we are a socialist state but I dont see why this should limit our buying potential.
Autonomous City-states
26-07-2004, 22:32
With that clarification, the order is approved.
Autonomous City-states
23-07-2007, 20:51
Given the recent surge in aerospace exports under the Postmodern Anachronisms brand, the Transdynamics Consortium is exercising their ownership of this patent and re-offering the Vampire with QNR engines standard.