NationStates Jolt Archive

Secret IC: The men approached the border their journey had been long but they were finally there. They carried no weapons or explosives they could easly be purchased or made while inside Iuthia. The only documentation they carried was real and ones that would allow them to gain jobs inside Iuthia and a few bundles of Iuthia notes. They huddled toghther in the rain, the storm was so fearse that few guards would spend long enough time to investigate a few brief movments. They would probally put it down to animalls. The men carried peeper and sure enough it was working as the guard dogs had failed to pick them up. The coast was clear for a few brief seconds and the men silently slipped by. The slowly went down the vally and into the city. They purpasly choose this city as it was big enough to for no one to notice their arrival, but small enough not to have a major security forces operating. The men waited to dawn this would be their home for the next year at least.

[Okay, I'm going to have to ask why you keep screwing with UnAPS member states. I have my suspicions about who you really are, and if they pan out you can guarentee it'll be a fast track to getting IGNORED.]

OOC: It was OOC my post you shouldn't even no about it.

OH NO YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG! EVERY CITY LITTLE OR BIG HAS A MEGA STRONG SECURITY FORCE WITH LASER RONTGEN EYES AND A VERY KEEN SENSE OF SMELL TO TRACK DOWN TERRORISTS!!!!

This is a well written story about how he enters Iuthia. Stop whining about every detail. Only because he's a terrorist you guys whine about everything because you don't like terrorists in your nation stored on a webserver.

OOC is out of charcter is out of game, i think you meen secret, they still cant know about it

OH NO YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG! EVERY CITY LITTLE OR BIG HAS A MEGA STRONG SECURITY FORCE WITH LASER RONTGEN EYES AND A VERY KEEN SENSE OF SMELL TO TRACK DOWN TERRORISTS!!!!

This is a well written story about how he enters Iuthia. Stop whining about every detail. Only because he's a terrorist you guys whine about everything because you don't like terrorists in your nation stored on a webserver.That really is true. They think its big brother in every square foot of their holy land.

OOC is out of charcter is out of game, i think you meen secret, they still cant know about it But It can't have any reprecusions for me?

not really, ooc dosent exist in the game

OH NO YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG! EVERY CITY LITTLE OR BIG HAS A MEGA STRONG SECURITY FORCE WITH LASER RONTGEN EYES AND A VERY KEEN SENSE OF SMELL TO TRACK DOWN TERRORISTS!!!!

This is a well written story about how he enters Iuthia. Stop whining about every detail. Only because he's a terrorist you guys whine about everything because you don't like terrorists in your nation stored on a webserver.

[ :roll: I love it how people automatically presume what a person means, over react, and then look like idiots when it's not even close. Do recall that I said if my suspicions pan out, but that I never said what those suspicions were or if they have yet.]

That really is true. They think its big brother in every square foot of their holy land.

[And what the hell would you know about it? You were created yesterday.]

OOC: I have declared my background in other threads and they are substanciated by other nations.

OOC is out of charcter is out of game, i think you meen secret, they still cant know about it But It can't have any reprecusions for me?

[OOC means Out of Character, which means anything you post OOC isn't roleplay. Secret IC is generally that, but an investigation into something can be done and traced back to you. Anything you do that is IC can have repercussions.]

Try turning it around, if you can't (probaly) I'll explain.

Iuthia is always talking about how perfect everything should be and what's wrong about it. Never a positive comment on something. He's annoying, especially the shitty little font he uses. I never overreacted, I exaggerated the kind of replies he always posts.

ex·ag·ger·ate ( P ) Pronunciation Key (g-zj-rt)
v. ex·ag·ger·at·ed, ex·ag·ger·at·ing, ex·ag·ger·ates
v. tr.
To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate: exaggerate the size of the enemy force; exaggerated his own role in the episode.
To enlarge or increase to an abnormal degree: thick lenses that exaggerated the size of her eyes.

OOC: I am a revived nation so do your research Scandinavia

[Then you're a revived nation of 6 million.
/me throws up hands, I'll let Iuthia deal with you both, it isn't worth the headache.]

fine you do that

I know what you mean HLF. Go here for a better game: www.meshier.com/fs/a

OOC: Unless you have a IC reason for doing this I'm going to ignore you...

I already have a terrorist nation infiltrating me for actual In Character reasons where as you are trying to commit and act of terror because you are pissed off Out of Character.

If you want to RP seriously, read this [link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135114)] and then come back to be with a in character reason for being against the nation of Iuthia, which In Character has left you alone and not done anything against your terrorist organisation.

Put simply... unless you are doing this for a good IC reason, I can't be assed with you. Hell, ignore me if you like, it just means I don't have to deal with your meta-gaming.

What a surprise. I do have a good reasons to attack you. Firstly I am being paid a very large some of money in 100s of billions to commit an attack against you. I need this money so I can reniew my campaign of terror against Credonia and its allies. This nation that wants the attack has very good reasons for wanting you hurt. Secondy even if I did not have a sponserer I have not actually attacked you yet and this infiltration could be merely a defence in the future. By ignoring it you are GODMODDING

[Not really, HLF, he doesn't have to acknowledge anyone. You're free to ask Melkor Unchained, he's one of the mods and something of an authority on the subject.]

What TG him?

OOC: Actually, I think you will find that I can ignore anything I want... if you read the Ignore section it details how "ignore" works I can ignore anything I want it's good not a good idea because people don't RP with a nation that ignores everything.

However, seeing as you are taking this seriously I may write some RP in a bit... but personally I don't look forward to RPing with you seeing as you still think it's okay to assume a ton of crap about my nation without even asking me about how my nation is run... seeing as it isn't America.

OOC Information on Iuthia (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=109898&highlight=)

I doubt you could get documentation to work in Iuthia, it's not like we let any old nation have that sort of documentation... there are better ways into Iuthia. Meanwhile guns are illegal in Iuthia, a nation which has eliminated crime (read nation's profile). So you would be limited to making your own or stealing them from a very secure military.

Meanwhile I RP my guards, though it is very possible to sneak past still, especially from certain areas... but you would need to have done your research.

The reason I ask you to talk to the nation OOC is because you can work out all the little problem first and get some information instead of making it all up.

So at no point did I RP your guards and I came in through Free Iuthia.

So at no point did I RP your guards and I came in through Free Iuthia.
(OOC) You RPed your men getting past the guards. It is up to Iuthia to determine if his guards let these men through or not.

Also, do you have any proof that another nation is paying you so that everyone knows you are doing this for something more then OOC reasons?

No all I said that no of my men which by Iuthia's rules I conroll reported to me that they wern't stopped. So by this I have concluded that the guards did not stop them. The nation gave me expliciet orders not to tell anyone but as you want proof I will speak to him and ask whether I can reveal.

(OOC) By saying they weren't stopped, you are indirectly controlling his guards. Again, it is up to Iuthia to determine if his guards permitted the men to cross his border.

OOC: I was concidering giving it a shot, but I can't be assed with all the arguements I would have to have with you to RP it through...

I'll be blunt; seeing as you are attacking me, it's my rules. If you don't like it then ignore me, it will save me time and effort because I don't want to RP with you and I'm only doing so because there is a chance you may be serious about this...

However, if you are really serious about this convenient terrorist attack (I have an OOC argument with you then all of a sudden you have reason to attack me IC, very questionable) then you must be willing to do things properly.

Firstly, don't make up things about how my nation is run. I've given you the basics in my OOC nation fact file which has a fair bit of information in it. My nation is far from immune to terrorism but you will need to explain your actions, and if they involve my citizens I will tell you what happens. Iuthia isn't the same as nations in the Real World...

Secondly, don't assume that everything you do will suceed... so when you try to get weapons and contacts and so on; you deal with me at least in a OOC respect... if you are smart things will go smoothly.

If you insult me or go out of your way to be sarcastic/perposefully stupid then I will ignore you out right. Trust me, I have alot of treads I'm currently involved in... I'd rather be roleplaying with nations who understand RP ettiquette, hell I've got another group of terrorists getting into my nation and they are working with me OOC so they can do things properly...

Overall - I don't really care one way or another, I don't mind you blowing something up because I've got 2 billion people in Iuthia, I can loose a few. But if you piss me off I won't bother, it's as simple as that. If you are serious you won't piss me off.

Ok, about your first post: Yes, you can cross my border easily seeing as I can't cover all of it, Iuthia is a big nation and I don't have the budget to cover all enterances... however you came in through Free Iuthia. Did you sneek into Free Iuthia or did you go as a tourist?

Secondly; your documentation. How did you aquire them?

Thirdly; what do you look like? Desciptions will be important at a later date for culture shock.


It was late night at the border of Iuthia, the patrol was finished faster then normal as the storm was practically shaving the men as they covered their route. On the whole they didn't notice anything out of the ordinary, with the weather being the way it was they couldn't see very far and the dog wasn't going to pick anything up unless it was a potent smell... but what were the chances of a smell illegal immigrant on a night like this?

None the less they didn't pick anything up that night, except a cold.

GET THE CHAMPAGNE!!! Ithuia made an IC post!!!!!

OOC: Thankyou Iuthia for accepting the RP. I am sorry I was rude but it was my first RP back and I was pissed off that the rules had changed without me knowing. I hope you will work with me to make this RP a succsess and enjoyable for both of us.
Firstly the nation is Spherea. I know the guy that runs it and he saw me having an OOC argument with you and as I am a 'terrorist state' he took the chance to arrange an attack he had been waiting for for a long time. The reason he wants to do it is you wouldn't put the nuclear attack on his nation on your List of Nuclear Strikes and so the world wasn't aware of it and 1000s more died. That was strictly OCC.
Ok getting back to the info you want. The men came in as tourists from Law2k a resspected decent nation to Free Iuthia. They wern't armed so there was no reason to disbalive them. I then mailed them from an embassy(as post from embassies isn't scaned). Inside was a Suitcase Nuke
Weight: 60-120 pounds.
Maximum Blast Range: five miles
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device.
and two Pocket Nuke(this is technically a dirty bomb)
Weight: 20-50 pounds.
Maximum Blast range: half mile.
The bomb can be mounted on any type of missile and use any type of detonation device. It will spread radiation over 5 miles.
They gained documentation by an agent slipping over the border one night and stealing work documents. The men were then chosen for there resembalence to the pictures so the photos wouldn't have to be altered. The mens apperance is exactly the same as is on the documentation they are all follow the Agnostic religion all are human apart from one which is half-elve. Is this info enough?

OOC: Ignored. Not because of you but because his reason is crap beyond comprehension? Seriously? He wants to nuke me because I haven't put a nuclear attack on my INOC list? Because I haven't had the time nor will?

Real HLF, I like your thread with Austar Union and I'm willing to admit that I shouldn't have posted in Phyrric's thread just because he's my ally... you've shown willing and had on of my enemies wanted to terrorise me then I wouldn't have minded... but this guy is nuking me because I haven't had the time to list the attack against his nation? Because he hasn't telegrammed me to get it done?

I'll be blunt... you're not to blame for this and I don't care what Holy Panooly or Huzen Hagen says about me for doing this, despite the fact I've actually stuck up for both of them one time or another. I can't accept these OOC reasons.

Also you said IC that you would get the weapons on the inside of Iuthia... I'm not accepting Belems GODMOD suitcase nukes because lets face it, to get a decent explodion they need a reasonable amount of nuclear material. In a nuclear weapon these have to be kept apart from one another so they don't go critical and turn into a dirty bomb... Belem thinks he can have enough radioactive material to make a bomb that can affect five miles of land, but the problem is that any nuke that can do that would need to keep it's material seperate so that it doesn't go critical. Seeing as their is limited room in a suitcase you can only have so much nuclear material... enough to effect maybe 10 blocks in a city.

Belem's suitcase nukes are crap, I have a ton of people on IRC (RPers from the Nationstates forum) who argee that even if they are possible they couldn't nearly do what Belem says.


Meanwhile Iuthia has the NAFDA system described in this [Link (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1811013#1811013)]

Which I can also use to stop this... especially seeing as Belem's weapons are involved with their "you cannot ever use them on Belem" GODMODery...

I was under the impression you were going to infiltrate and lay low, I was under the idea that eventually you were going to maybe blow me up with fertiliser explodisives but you are going to waste your nuclear weapons on me because someone doesn't like me? The fact they are paying you "hundreds of billions" is probably something they can't afford, hell I don't think I can afford it...

So to recap why I will not accept this:

1. Reason is so close to OOC it's untrue - hell, I've not even RPed the detection of tge blast that hit them so they can't even know that I'm doing it on perpose even if I was.

2. Belem nuclear weapons are involved. 'nough said.

3. NAFDA system probably would have detected the nuclear components long before you reached the nation due to the range and use of the system as designed by Mega Tau oh so long ago.

4. Free Iuthia is my nation and I am not aware of any embassies set up there. Let alone any RP suggesting that someone posted a nuke to them.


HLF, you'll probably go nuts over this, but why do you take it to the guy who set you up to it. I'll admit you've got better and I think Austar Union's RP with you is going well. I'll admit that I shouldn't post in your thread unless my ally needs OOC/IC support... but overall I will ignore any attempt to justify this attack and I will from now on ignore it outright.

Nice try none the less.

(Edited for Holy Panooly's convenience.)

Stop with the annoying little font damnit! Everytime you post something ooc I have to get my reading glasses.

OOC:OMG you can't win with Iuthia. The nukes were merely a disraction and HP can confirm this. Look up Spherea he has more than enough money for the attack. He did post on the site about the attack and you said you neeeded more info and when he gave it you ignored it. This is the perfect phycopathic grudge and you can't face it.

OOC: This sounds exectly like the Iuthia I knew, keeps making new rules and then once they are met turns around and says he is not playing anmore. Sounds like a little boy with the ball. Yes I ordered the attack against you because of this. Firstly I would like nothing better than to wipe that smug little smirk off your face as you run around telling everyone what they can and can't do. Secondly you ignorde me when I tried to put the nuclear strike on my nation on your thread. I saw this as the perfect opertunaty to get you back with a nation I saw was already hostile to you. I am going to the MODS cos this is simply unberliveable.

OOC:OMG you can't win with Iuthia. The nukes were merely a disraction and HP can confirm this. Look up Spherea he has more than enough money for the attack. He did post on the site about the attack and you said you neeeded more info and when he gave it you ignored it. This is the perfect phycopathic grudge and you can't face it.

OOC: Whine whine whine... take it to a mod, I don't care. These are very legitimate reasons. I won't reply to your posts again, if my friends are being attacked by you I'll advise them via telegram... goodbye HLF, I gave you respect for learning, I admitted I was wrong in the other thread... but I can't be bothered to dance this little dance.

Spherea's reasons are OOC.

Belem nukes are GODMOD's

And I'm not going to have fun RPing with you, so why bother? This isn't a game you can win, this is a game people RP in for fun, they cooperate and come up with a good storyline... Doujin bombed me once and we worked it out good.

So goodbye HLF, I gave it a shot but it's just not worth it... I think most nations will understand why I've done this and if they want to ignore me then I'm welcome to it.

OOC: This sounds exectly like the Iuthia I knew, keeps making new rules and then once they are met turns around and says he is not playing anmore. Sounds like a little boy with the ball. Yes I ordered the attack against you because of this. Firstly I would like nothing better than to wipe that smug little smirk off your face as you run around telling everyone what they can and can't do. Secondly you ignorde me when I tried to put the nuclear strike on my nation on your thread. I saw this as the perfect opertunaty to get you back with a nation I saw was already hostile to you. I am going to the MODS cos this is simply unberliveable.

Thanks for the change Iuthia. It reads much better now.

I concur it was only a distraction. The HLF is right Iuthia, you can't take your loss. Good thing Spherea is going to the mods. This is unbelievable...

I concur it was only a distraction. The HLF is right Iuthia, you can't take your loss. Good thing Spherea is going to the mods. This is unbelievable...

Try me, I've been talking to Scolo, Melkor and Siri on IRC and they pretty much agree that I can ignore anything I like.

You guys are missing the point that this is a story based game. Whine to the mods but they don't care about ignores... whats more most of them agree that it's a good idea to ignore this mess.

Seriously, Spherea's reason is "He ignored me on the INOC thread" and thats why he wants to bomb me? He's using HLF as a hostile nation despite the fact I have had no contact with him IC?

Holy Panooly, just ignore me. It would make things easier. Odd really, you ignore Iron Blood's attack for pretty much the same reason, but it's ok because it's you.

Tell it to a mod, I don't care. It should be interesting hearing the words "Iuthia can ignore anyone he wants" the only thing I have done wrong is to OOC comment on a thread with my ally in it.

Iuthia just accept the attack, what harm could he possibly do? My situation was about 3 much bigger nations attacking me. This is a 7 million nation attacking a 2 billion nation. Just get over it and accept it like a man.

I am a part time mercinary work to raise funds for my campaign I don't need an IC reason.

Iuthia just accept the attack, what harm could he possibly do? My situation was about 3 much bigger nations attacking me. This is a 7 million nation attacking a 2 billion nation. Just get over it and accept it like a man.

No, I'm ignoring this because it's a load of bull. So I should accept a nuclear blast in my city because of OOC hate? If I was to accept it I would have to RP tons with a nation which has no concept of co-operative RP.

If you don't like it, ignore me and shut up.

Currently I have a small radiation hotspot in Iuthia Prima because of a nuclear ICBM that Doujin fired by acciedent... I RPed that one fully and the results were interesting.

Meanwhile here I am being nuked because one nation hates me as a player and his IC reason, making perfect sense is "INOC didn't list me so instead of contacting them again I'm going to nuke them using terrorists"

Yeah... so I'm suposed to bend over and take that crap? Meanwhile I've lost men, I've RPed with alot of nations and most of them like me despite my tendancy to write alot of OOC liked RPing with me.

No amount of bitching on your half will make me accept this crap.

And now it's suddenly crap. Admins should just ban for your arrogance alone

And now it's suddenly crap.

As far as I can see, it's been crap all along.

And now it's suddenly crap.

As far as I can see, it's been crap all along.

Funny thing is Nimzonia, the admins are on IRC and they've pretty much agreed that it's not their problem if I ignore someone.

Hell, most of them agree that I'm doing the right thing by ignoring them.

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills.

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills.

Exactly. When it comes down to it, nobody is in any way bound to RPing with someone they don't want to.

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills. You told me to get out of your thread now get the hell out of MINE

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills.

Exactly. When it comes down to it, nobody is in any way bound to RPing with someone they don't want to.OK next time someone is about to invade my nation I will ignore it saying i don't want to rp

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills. You told me to get out of your thread now get the hell out of MINE

So get them to post on the thread just to make sure you arnt bluffing.

You are quite pathetic for yelling at Iuthia for not accepting a terrorist attack on him. It's his country, he decides what he wants to happen. If you don't like it, then attack someone else who is willing to cooperate with your poor RP skills.

Exactly. When it comes down to it, nobody is in any way bound to RPing with someone they don't want to.OK next time someone is about to invade my nation I will ignore it saying i don't want to rp

:roll:

Stop clogging up my thread with your stupid emotions. Keep them under control. :)

The Real HLF:

The way I see it, you have made no prior contact with Iuthia about having an attack on his nation, which is a big no-no when it comes to RP on NS. You will find about 99% of all nations agree on this point, and so everyone roleplays as such.

YOU HAVE TO GET PERMISSION FROM IUTHIA FIRST

This is highly different strategy from a regular war. When it comes to terrorism, you are dealing with a high amount of trickery, and so, unless you can make some kind of a reason why its more likely for you to succeed than to fail, he has right to ignore you. By saying that his guards let you in, you are in fact godmoding because he has the right to control his men. However, if you wrote a story, posting up till the point of contact with the guards, he wouldnt have right to ignore it. Howvere, you do have to tell him OOCly whats happening, so he can RP accordingly.

Huzen Hagen/The HLF actually contacted me via msn asking me details about my nation's security etc at least a week prior before he posted the actual RP where he's entering my nation. I gave him permission to RP terrorists entering, and planning an attack. As long as he did it all properly, and he managed to really find a way through my security, I would RP the whole thing. And thats what he did. When I told him afterwards that he godmodded just a tiny bit, he corrected on it, and the RP has gone well since. Actually, I hope that the RP does develop further, because its turning out to be quiet interesting.

You will find that most people are actually willing to RP things like these, including Iuthia, just as long as the RP is written better than just a simple claim that terrorists have entered his country. You see, its nice to win, but if you want to win, you have to write the story first, and writing the story alongside someone else makes this game...

Fine I get all those points but he can't say he captured or stopped my men as that would godmodding? Also does this mean that if someone is going to invade my nation I can ignore it saying I don't want to RP because it doesn't interest me. What would have happend if I hade tried it on your ally Credonia? I will except it though it seems like one rule for one another for another. And I will take note of your points as its the first person that hasn't lectured or beeen rude to me while I was RPing about Iuthia.