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With the gradual replacement of our navy and the introduction of the SIBA to the army, it has been decided that the military's air contingent needs a renovation as well. As such, the Imperium has laid out requirements for aircraft and the numbers that we hope to field.


Air Force
Interceptor: Supersonic, high payload, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field fifteen 72-aircraft Wings.
Air Superiority Fighter: Supercruise, agile, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field ten 72-aircraft Wings
Multi-Role Fighter: Supersonic, agile, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Close Air Support: Tough and a tank killer. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Strike: Extremely stealthy and pure ground-attack. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Medium Bomber: 25,000-39,000 pounds of ordinance, stealthy, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Heavy Bomber: 40,000-69,000 pounds of ordinance, stealthy, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Strategic Bomber: 70,000+ pounds of ordinance, stealth, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.
Sub-Orbital Bomber: Capable of sub-orbital flight and radar stealthy. The Imperial Air Force might field a single 72-aircraft Wing if the entrant is deemed worth the cost.
Refueler: Only requirement is that the aircraft have multiple booms for refueling more than one aircraft at a time. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.

Navy
NOTE: There are no fixed numbers for naval aircraft at this time.
Interceptor: Supersonic, high payload, and stealthy.
Air Superiority Fighter: Supercruise, agile, and stealthy.
Multi-Role Fighter: Supersonic, agile, and stealthy.
Attack: Stealthy, sea- and ground-attack, and 20,000+ pounds of ordinance.
ASW Helo/Aircraft: Sub hunter with all the proper equipment.

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OOC: My technology level is up to 2020, although the vast majority of my products are 2015 and under level.


The Zoogie Air Force has received your aircraft requirements, and has made the following assesment on them regarding its own capabilities to supply Scandavian States.

Interceptor - Currently, we have no true interceptors. We view such aircraft as overly large, immobile, expensive to maintain, and impractical...however, to each nation their own use for these...the closest category of aircraft we have to interceptors are 216 Kazakhstania-built F-42s stationed in the Three Islands area of our nation.

Air Superiority Fighter - While not for sale (or for that matter, OOC, typed out), Zoogiedom has a stealthy and agile air superiority fighter in the ZaS(ZF)-27. As Scandavian States is an ally of the Zoogie People, you will most likely be offered the domestic ZaS-27 model for a contract. It will be due back on sale in a few weeks. In addition, two more specialized air superiority fighters: the first, an ESTOL-VECTOR fighter based on X-31 technologies; the second, a light FSW fighter that *should not* resemble the X-29 (better images pending). See ZF-27 image here (http://images.janes.com/aerospace/military/news/idr/s0111197.jpg)

Multirole fighter - Zoogiedom offers several air force multirole fighters, although, as with the rest of them, they are not for sale yet. The only one that is able to suit your listed needs is the ZaS(ZF)-42 Gecko, similar in concept to the Joint Strike Fighter, but much more capable. The other two multirole fighters in our inventory are the ZaS-29, a larger forward-swept wing design with two engines, and the ZaS-26, an agile but not stealthy design similar to the Eurofighter except in its intended role (focused more on attack). See ZaS-42 image here. (http://www.simlabs.arc.nasa.gov/photos/images/aircraft/astovl.jpeg)

Close Air Support - Zoogiedom's entry into the close air support area is not as developed OOCly as the others, but nevertheless is unique. It is quite possibly the most advanced close air support fighter on Nationstates, as so far I haven't seen any other exclusive CAS fighters...I could be wrong though, I haven't browsed too many storefronts. See image of the ZA-40 (to be redesignated) here: Za-40 (http://www.aeronautics.ru/.../news/news002/t1202_small.jpg).

Strike/Medium/Heavy/Strategic bombers - These, we have no entries...not yet anyways. We do have a bomber in the works, but stealth is not a number one priority.

Naval Air Superiority - We employ a navilized ZF-27, but may also employ navalised FSW concepts and updated MiG-29Ks...

Naval Multirole - Basically, the ZaS-42 Gecko and the F/A-18E/F Hornet are all we use. However, a project is pending with Kazakhstania (ZF-28/F-45 Sharkishki) that will quite possibly result in the most advanced naval fighter in each of our inventories.

What we can offer is the perfect strike/medium bomber option, and we refer you to the link below as the post is too long to copy here.

EA-220 Joint Tactical Bomber (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=88103&highlight=)


Also we produce an aircraft which may suit your fighter needs:

EA-135 Joint Tactical Fighter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13019)

Zoogie: We are interested in the ZaS(ZF)-27, ZaS(ZF)-42, and Za-40. If you could post statistics on these aircraft, we would be most grateful. Also, could you refer us to Kazakhstania's storefront so that we may also review this interceptor?

United Elias: We would like to order 360 EA-220As. Unfortunately, we could not access the information on the EA-135 (it's been deleted, I think.)

The EA-135 thread is probably short a number...where t=, UE probably copied it and accidentally truncated the last number.

Tentative statistics of essential features of the ZaS-42...

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ZaS-42C
ZaS-42M

Engine type: 3D-TV Es-143 turbofan type with 39,400-lb thrust.

Performance: Max speed Mach 2.23; cruise speed Mach 1.46; service ceiling 58,400-feet

Armament: Main bays housing two 2000-lb JDAM munitions and two AIM-120; side bays housing two AIM-132; four wing pylons for further arms;

Cannon: (Air force: dual 20-mm cannons with 410 rounds each) (Navy: dual 20-mm cannons with 360 rounds each) (Marines: 25-mm cannon with 720 rounds)
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Other statistics are unavailable right now, although maximum speed for the ZF-27 is perferably in the low Mach 2 range...the Za-40 is to be subsonic.

Kazakhstania's store, I'd refer you to, but the forums are preventing me from doing that.

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We have also just noted your requisite for a tanker capable of carrying multiple refueling booms. We currently use this, whose name I have not decided on...KC-280, 260, something like that (although the KC designation is likely to change, it's just too unappealing aesthetically).

http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/idr/idr000704_2_psm.jpg

Smaller than the C-71 by far, this utilizes box wing technology, which enables the multiple refueling booms, and is also a passenger airliner and potential AWACs candidate.

Air Force
Interceptor: Supersonic, high payload, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field fifteen 72-aircraft Wings.RF-X7: Average stealth, Great interceptor: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx7.htm
RF-23: Not as fast as the X7, but fully stealth; Expensive: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rf23.htm
Air Superiority Fighter: Supercruise, agile, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field ten 72-aircraft WingsRF-X8: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8.htm
Multi-Role Fighter: Supersonic, agile, and stealthy. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.Again, the RF-X8: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8.htm
Close Air Support: Tough and a tank killer. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.Definately the Su-37 R-Type: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rtype.htm
Strike: Extremely stealthy and pure ground-attack. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.RF-45 UCAV Bomber: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rf45.htm
Medium Bomber: 25,000-39,000 pounds of ordinance, stealthy, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.A stealth version of the R-Type can be made, if you wish: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rtype.htm
Heavy Bomber: 40,000-69,000 pounds of ordinance, stealthy, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.Working on a stealth bomber version of this supersonic transport: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rt20x7.htm
Strategic Bomber: 70,000+ pounds of ordinance, stealth, and nuclear capable. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.Not stealth, but able to hold 200 tons of bombs: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rb225.htm (is the bomber version of the An-225: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/an225.htm )
Sub-Orbital Bomber: Capable of sub-orbital flight and radar stealthy. The Imperial Air Force might field a single 72-aircraft Wing if the entrant is deemed worth the cost.Nothing right now, sorry.
Refueler: Only requirement is that the aircraft have multiple booms for refueling more than one aircraft at a time. The Imperial Air Force wants to field five 72-aircraft Wings.RT-1807 Refueler: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rt1807.htm

Navy
NOTE: There are no fixed numbers for naval aircraft at this time.
Interceptor: Supersonic, high payload, and stealthy.RF-X7: Average stealth, Great interceptor: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx7.htm
RF-23: Not as fast as the X7, but fully stealth; Expensive: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rf23.htm
Air Superiority Fighter: Supercruise, agile, and stealthy.RF-X8: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8.htm
Multi-Role Fighter: Supersonic, agile, and stealthy.RF-X8: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rfx8.htm
Attack: Stealthy, sea- and ground-attack, and 20,000+ pounds of ordinance.A stealth version of the R-Type can be made, if you wish: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rtype.htm
ASW Helo/Aircraft: Sub hunter with all the proper equipment.Nothing specifically that yet, but we do have a stealth Commanchee: http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/comm.htm

http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rsig1.jpg (http://www.bateshome.com/jordan/rmtdex.htm)

We've pretty much decided on the ZaS-42 for our multi-role fighter, but we will await full specs before opting to purchase. The same goes for the other two.

OOC: I'm at a tech level at about 2005 to 2008, so really no PDE and the likes. It may fill the role of an interceptor as a 2005 tech level aircraft, in my opinion, so here's what I have.

IC:

Under a general request by Scandavian States, and under the Omzian Foreign Special Weapons Export Program (FWE-VIP), a request by the Omzian Air Force, OHDF Weapons Procurement Department, and OMASC has been granted by the Military Administration Council and the Omzia Parliament.

The state-contractor Omzian Military Aerospace Corporation (OMASC), offers a variety of aircraft, but the first piority is a downgraded F-125 Rapier designed for export to Scandavian States, designated as the F-125S Turbo Rapier. The modified statistics are as follows:

Core Design

The F-125S Rapier is a hybrid of the F-108, MiG-31, and F/A-22A designs, featuring a trapezoid-like delta wing and two side intakes. The airframe is composed of mostly titanium and aluminum alloys, plus other materials such as Steel, various composites, and some ceramics. The airframe is designed for durability, reliability, and high performance in both high subsonic and supersonic speeds -- although the aircraft will operate in supersonic speeds most often. As a interceptor, it does not have much agility than the F/A-22 or the Flanker series, but the aircraft has an acceptable performace in ACM (air combat maneuvering) with other "heavy" aircraft. Stealth features, such application of RCS reduction materials and surfaces, plus application of lower engine/inlet IR signatures (mostly at non-afterburning stage) and radar signatures has greatly reduced the aircraft's radar cross section (to the size of a basketball -- slightly smaller than the F-117s and slightly larger than the F/A-22 and B-2 RCS) and greatly increased survivabiity in high-threat SAM and enemy aircraft environments.

The Rapier is powered by two Honjak Electric HEK-105SE turbofans, which is a downgraded version of the HEK-105 for the Omzian F-125. The turbofans are applied with the necessary RCS-reduction and fuel management standards required on the aircraft, and are rated at over 51,000lbs each with 3D thrust vectorting. These engines, coupled with the airframe of the aircraft, has a cruise (non-afterburning) speed of Mach 1.34, and a top (afterburning) speed of about Mach 3.2 at high-altitude (with normal payload of missiles and fuel tanks). The aircraft also has a ceiling of about 79,000 feet (24,200 meters). With this, the aircraft has a maximum takeoff weight of about 92,000lb (41,730kg), and a maximum ferry range (on internal fuel) of 3100km.

Weapons & Mission Profiles

The Rapier, as said before, can carry various air-to-air missiles and fuel tanks, as it is designed for interception duties. However, a requirement for it to be equipped witha ir-to-ground weaponeries has been turned down. The Rapier has a total of three weapons bays, plus six external hardpoints (two underwing weapons hardopints, two weapons wingtip hardpoints, two "special purpose" underwing hardpoints) and an interior M61 20mm gatling gun, allowing a total possible payload of 15,000lbs. With this, short-range air-to-air missiles (standard is AIM-9X), medium-range air-to-air missiles (standard is AIM-120C-5), and long-range air-to-air missiles (normally AIM-315, though the aircraft can also be modified to fire equivalents). Here is a quick mission profile rundown with internal weapons only of the F-125S version:

-Long-range Interception #1: 8x AIM-315 or equivalent (center bay), (center bay), 2 AIM-9X (side bays), 2 fuel tanks;
-Long-range Interception #2: 6x AIM-315 (center bay), 2x AIM-9X (side + center bays), 2 fuel tanks;
-Long-range Interception #3: 8x AIM-120N (center bay), 4x AIM-9X (side + center), 2 fuel tanks.

Additionally, the two external weapon hardpoints can be mounted with an additional 2 AIM-315s in configuration three, plus one AIM-9X each on the wingtip rails, but this can decrease the RCS of the aircraft. The "special purpose" hardpoints can lastly operate the different variants of the TARPS photo-recon pod, giving the Rapier a reconissance capability.

Electrical Systems & User Interface

The Rapier features a specially designed single-piece bubble canopy and a cockpit housing two crews (pilot and radar interception officer). The crews are faced with a variety of LCD and CRT multifunction displays. The pilot has a wide-angle HUD, MFDs for flight control, navigation, and situational awareness plus communication equipments, while the RIO is faced with a sophisticated radar operation console (which can also operate the TARPS pods). The pilot also operates the aircraft with a fly-by-wire system, although the RIO can also operate the aircraft by him/herself in emergency. These are all linked to a central processor which greatly improves the performance of the electric systems

The aircraft features a powerful Noran Tonobran 1200SSE AESA/LPI pulse-dopplar, all aspect, look-down and shoot-down radar suite, which is a slightly downgraded 1200SK (without highly critical Omzian components) and is capable of air-to-air and navigational duties. The radar system, with a 64bit signal processor and memory, features high adaptability and performance. The radar features a range of between 320km to 400km against large fighter/interceptor-sized targets, plus a lookdown range of 150km, and can track up to 32 targets. Air-to-air modes includes standard Range While Search (RWS), Track While Scan (TWS), Vertical Scan, modes, among others. It is also capable of engaging low-RCS targets in other specific modes (although at much-lower ranges in some cases), including B-2 and F/A-22s at an "acceptable range". Additionally, the radar also has a rear sensor with a range of 180km against smaller targets, which can perform situational awareness and airspace search functions (including look down and look up) and finish a sweep 100 degrees of airspace almost instantly.

The aircraft also features the Noran Wandans 800SSE IRST and Visual Identification system, which is another slightly degraded 800SK suite, and features high-performance detection of IR signatures through the airspace at a range of beyond 60km. The visual identification part however, uses a high percision, digital camera to visually identify (although not track) aircraft from ranges at beyond 20km. It is mounted forward of the windscreen on the aircraft.

The aircraft features an integrated electric warfare system, which is a collection of electronics that detects signals from other aircraft and commands the aircraft's countermeasures. This includes a missile launch detection capability, plus an IR-based missile launch detection warning device, a tactical radar jammer, and over 140 chaffs and flares each. This also includes a Noran Watchtower 2700SSKN radar warning receiver, which not only allows grat performance at detecting radar emissions, but also allows classification of the radar threats, and locating the specific radar-based threats (which allows a chance to have other strike aircraft to engage them].

Specifications for the F-125S Turbo Rapier:
Function: High-speed fighter-interceptor
Contractor: OMASC with Omzian Air Force Weapons Labs (including Honjaks Electrics and Noran), designed for Scandavian States
Propulsion: Two Honjak Electrics HEK-105 turbofans at ~51,000lbs each with afterburners.
Length: 24.9m
Height: 6.61m
Wingspan: 17.16m
Ceiling: ~80,000ft (24,200m)
Speed: ~Mach 3.2 at ceiling
Range: 1800km ferry
Empty Weight: 51,100lbs (23,496kg)
Maximum Takeoff Weight: 91,000lb (41,730kg)
Armament: Up to 14,000lbs of total payload. Normal profiles includes 8 AIM-315 and 2 AIM-9X.
Unit Cost: Estimated at $96,000,000 each (base cost).
Estimated Unit Price ~$56,000,000


OMASC Announces Completion of HSIP Missile Program: AIM-315AE Spear

OMASC with the Omzian Air Force Weapons Labs has finally unveiled a new long-range missile, specifically for the F-125 Rapier: the AIM-315 Spear. The AIM-315AE is an export version, with slightly downgraded immunity to ECM and IRCM, and a slightly degraded range.

The AIM-315's revolution change, heavily based on the HAVE DASH II research program and the Hughes/Raytheon proposal for the AIM-155 AAAM, is a stealthy airframe to greatly reduce/maintain detection levels of both the missile and the carrier stealth aircraft (when carried externally). Like the previous mentioned missile, the AIM-315 features a slightly flat, radar-absorbing graphite composite fuselage with various other small applications of RAM coatings. The missile also uses a hybrid solid rocket-ramjet propulsion for maximum performance.

The sensor is also a change. The AIM-315AE's active radar seeking sensor not only features LPI (low probability of intercept) capability (which minimalizes the detection of the missile on enemy radar warning receivers), but also a long range in the "lock-on before launch" capability, as opposed to launching the missile and giving mid-course update from the aircraft. This could give more survivability to the launching aircraft, and allowing it to perform evasive maneuvers immediately after missile launch. The seeker is also jamming and chaff-resistant, and if the targeted aircraft starts to use ECM jammer, the missile would home on the jammer signals. If the radar seeker is completely jammed and fooled however, a backup IR seeker will take over.

Specifications for AIM-315AE
Length: 3.87m
Diameter: 28.7cm
Weight: 453kg (1000lb)
Speed: Mach 5.1
Guidance:
Mid course update from launching aircraft/AWACS, active radar seeker at terminal phase. Passive radar seeker on if targeting aircraft uses ECM.
Range: ~>200km -- exact range classified.
Propulsion: Honjak Electrics No225 integral rocket/ramjet engine
Warhead: 65kg (132lb) blast-fragmentation.
Aircraft (certified): F-125A
Unit Cost: $970,000 base cost
[b]Estimated (bulk purchase unit price) at ~$890,000

I'm 2006-2020, and specify tech levels where necessary

Full specifications will be available hopefully before April vacation. Preferably by this weekend.

The order for the EA-220A airframes is confirmed.

I have fixed the link for the EA-135

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130193&highlight=

Also for your naval requirements, we have the EA-24 Multipurpose helicopter (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=40824) available in 11 versions and proud to be the bestselling helicopter on NS.

Omz: We'd like to place an order for 1,080. That should come out to $60,480,000,000.

United Elias: We will of course consider your multi-role fighter before deciding between it and the ZaS-42. Our compliments on the EA-24, it is our opinion that it is the best-selling helo in the world for good reason. More likely than not, we will end up purchasing both the G and H variants.

Raysia: We will continue to evaluate your aircraft along with other entrants.

Omz: We'd like to place an order for 1,080. That should come out to $60,480,000,000.

As this is an expected huge contract for the Scandavian Air Force, prices will fall to approximately $56 million per unit as it is expected to use mass-produced components under various production lines. Under high-rate production, and although the OMASC factories are also filling out the Omzian Air Force orders, the efficency and the availability of the components allows a rate of 19 to 22 aircraft per month at average. As with this, delivery time will be taken place over a period of 4-6 years, if possible, as we must assure that these aircraft are fully prepared for wartime operations within the Scandavian Air Force.

Additionally, OMASC will provide another total of 17,280 AIM-315AE Spear missiles for operation on the F-125S for an additional total of $12.8 billion, if desired (16 missiles per aircraft). A domestic production contract for the AIM-315AE version can be negotitated. If not, we will make sure that systems aboard the aircraft can fire desired domestic-produced missiles that the Scandavian States Air Force uses.

The aircraft will be delivered in batches of 18 per month until the tenth batch. After the sixth batch, they will be delivered in batches of 22 to 24 per month.

Spare parts, testing equipments, and various other maintenance, training, and combat equipments will be provided along the order.

We are much happy that such large contract can be signed, and we hope that we can do further business with the Scandavian militaries at a future date. OMASC will be making sure that products will be delivered on time promptly.

We thank OMASC for their generous discount and must decline their offer for their Extreme BVR missiles. Our own missiles use standard western mounts, so compatibility should not be a problem.

Thank you for considering our bid and we await the results with anticipation.

The Imperial Air Force is still looking for an aircraft to fill its land-based medium bomber requirement.

we have the "Peregrine" stats to be released in a few days. it can carry 36,000 pounds of ordanance and is designed for Long-Range Missile Launches.

We are most interested. Please fill us in on this aircraft as soon as convenient.

We are most interested. Please fill us in on this aircraft as soon as convenient.

check the II Fourm.

Well for the medium Bomber Crookfur Arms can offer our Super Vulcan.
It isn't all that stealthy basically just a reworking of air inlets and soem surfaces and big coating of RAM paint but it is extremely versatile being able to carry and launch just about anything incluidng Nuclear weapons and ALCMs (from both internal and external mountings) heck it can even funtion as a fighter if you are feeling insane as it can out manouver anything in it's class.

stats:

Dimensions:
Length: 30.5m
Height: 8.3m
Width/wingspan: 33.9m
Crew: 4 (pilot, co-pilot, offensive systems operator, defensive system operator)
Engines:
4x CFPW T1045 Alcohol jet engines
Performance:
Max Speed: 1150kph
Max cruise: 1092kph (mach 0.92)
Max range: 8500km
Service ceiling: 17000m
Weapons:
Bomb load: up to 30,000lbs of bombs
Typical loads include 20 GBU-31s (all independently targeted), 2 GBU-28 bunker busters, 20 Paveway III-E laser guided bombs or 24 CBU-97 (or other weapons from the WCMD family).
External mounting racks exist to allow the carriage and launch of up to 4 Air launched Cruise missiles/anti shipping missiles and 2 additional small hard points allow the carriage of external recon/ECM pods or AAMs (inc AIM-9 sidewinder and AIM120 AMRAAM).
The bomb bay can also be used to mount extra fuel tanks and a fuel hose system to provide in-flight refuelling ability.
Systems:
Full day/night targeting with IR imaging and laser designator. GPS/inertial weapons guidance system and navigation with auto pilot, synthetic aperture radar imaging and targeting system, in flight refuelling probe, full ECM defensive system with advanced threat warning and detection, active counter measures including high power jamming and decoys, full digital cockpit with fly by wire and HOTAS controls and terrain avoidance radar

Perhaps one of the most majestic Aircraft ever built the Avro Vulcan was a gem of the cold war bombers. While never having the sheer load of the B-52 the Vulcan proved its versatility in both the high altitude nuclear and low level conventional bomber roles. Crookfur Arms have taken the old Vulcan and given it a new lease of life. The new airframe is just as strong and robust as previously but modern materials have allowed it to be made lighter and replacement of all the old analogue systems with up to date digital equipment has increased the room available for fuel and munitions as well as allowing the full range of modern bomber systems to be added included the latest in defensive systems and independent weapon targeting. The use of radar absorbent paint and materials plus a reworking of certain airframe elements greatly increases the aircrafts survivability. The new Crookfur alcohol engines offer a good boost in performance and fuel efficiency. While not having the same load as modern bombers such as the B-52 or B2 (the Vulcan’s precision load is only slightly less then that of the B-1B) the Vulcan still retains its ability to scramble into the air within 4minutes and offers higher manoeuvrability (although not quite as agile as say an F16 it can still perform many fighter manoeuvres).

Cost (basic version): $105million