NationStates Jolt Archive


Naval Storefront (more ships now)

Argyllia
06-04-2004, 14:50
This is my very first storefront and the ships in it are of my own design although the pictures have been lifted off a site. All these ships have seen combat in my navy and have aquitted themselves admirably.

Do your own math
Await confirmation

Empire Class Battleship

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Golden_Age/GAW_Alabama_Battleship.gif

Displacement Light Displacement: 55231 tons
Full Displacement: 67271 tons
Overall Length: 888 ft
Waterline Length: 860 ft
Beam Extreme Beam: 109 ft
Waterline Beam: 108 ft
Draft Maximum Navigational Draft: 38 ft
Draft Limit: 37 ft
Max Speed 35 knots
Armament:
3 Mk 7 16" Guns
4 Phlanax CIWS
196 cell VLS, 96 aft and 96 forward
Electronic Equipment:
AN/SLQ-32 Electronics Warfare System
AN/SPY-1B Radar

Cost: £2 billion

This ship is the pride of the Argyllian Fleet, designers took the hull of an Iwoan class Battleship and placed weapon systems upon it. The VLS system is huge and is the main armament of the vessel. Currently their are 18 in Argyllian service, 4 of which have seen action and not had their paint scratched.

County Class Cruiser

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Ticonderoga_Cruiser.gif

Overall Length: 650 ft
Waterline Length: 600 ft
Beam Extreme Beam: 75 ft
Waterline Beam: 75 ft
Draft Maximum Navigational Draft: 40 ft
Draft Limit: 27 ft
Displacement: 12,000 tons
Speed: 30 plus knots
Range: 3000 @ 20 knots
Armament:
4 Phlanax CIWS
2 5" Guns
128 cell VLS, 64 aft and 64 forward
Electronic equipment:
AN/SLQ-32 Electronics Warfare System
AN/SPY-1B Radar

Cost: £1 Billion

This ship provides the main air defence for Argyllian Fleets, it's VLS systems are specially designed to carry the extended range Aster 90 SAM. There are 27 in comission at the moment but superb performance has made the Argllian MoD think about an extra order of these fantastic ships.

Ardent Class Frigate

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Australian_Malcom_Frigate.gif

Displacement: 4,900 tonnes
Length: 133m / 436ft
Beam: 16.1m / 52.9ft
Complement: 200
Max Speed: 32 knots
Armament: 2 x Quad Harpoon Missile launchers
32 cell Vertical Launch PAAMS anti-missile system
4.5in (114mm) MK 8 gun
2 x 30mm CIWS
2 x Magazine launched anti submarine torpedo tubes
NATO Seagnat and DLF3 Decoy Launchers
Sensors: Type 1007 navigation radar
Type 996 air/surface surveillance radar
2 x Type 911 Sea Wolf tracking radars
UAT Electronic Surveillance System
Type 2050 active sonar
Aircraft: 1 Merlin ASW

Cost: £500 million

These ships are basically a advanced design of the type 23 frigate. It's obselete Sea Wolf has been torn out and replaced with the more capable PAAMS with Aster 90 missiles (extended range Aster 30) and the latest Harpoon missile avliable. The Lynx ASW has been replaced with the Merlin which is far more capable. There are currently 45 serving in the Argyllian Navy, 2 have been sunk in combat but showed great resilence.

Battleaxe Class Destroyer

http://www.kitsune.addr.com/Rifts/Rifts-Earth-Vehicles/Burke_Destroyer-small.gif

Displacement: 7,350 tonnes
Length: 172.4m
Max Beam: 25.2m
Speed: 29 knots
Range: 7000 nautical miles at 18 knots
Complement: 250
Equipment selected includes:
96 cell VLS PAAMS System
2 Goalkeeper CIWS
1 4.5" Gun
Electronics:
SAMPSON Multi-FunctionalRadar (MFR) (for surveillance and fire control)
Signaal/Marconi S1850M Long Range Radar (LRR) for air/surface search.
Helicopter: 1 Merlin ASW

Cost: £850 million

This is a lengthened Type 45 Class Destroyer to accomadate a extra 32 cells on the VLS, this slows the speed down to 29 knots as Nuclear Power was ruled out because of extensive cost. This is one of the finest Destroyers in NS ?(if you classify destroyer as between 5,000-8,000 tons). There are 36 Destroyers in the Argyllian fleet and are the primary Air Defence ships
Welsh Kingdoms
06-04-2004, 17:41
Looks good, the battleship seems a little underpowered though.
Argyllia
06-04-2004, 19:04
Argyllia
06-04-2004, 19:08
35knts! underpowered what knida speed do your ships go at, my carriers go 39 ans SSN's 45 but standard crusing speed is 22knts with a combat speed of only 31.

Keep the input coming
GameFAQ
06-04-2004, 19:26
I will buy 10 empire class battleships.

*Money wired on confirmation*
Argyllia
06-04-2004, 19:43
Order confirmed, nice doing business
Isselmere
06-04-2004, 19:45
A bit of concern: neither the forward nor rear turrets would be able to fire fore or aft as the case might be as doing so would seriously damage and possibly prematurely explode the missiles in the VLS tubes, presuming they are positioned fore of the A & B turrets and aft of the Y turret, unless of course the 3 16" just refer to the A turret, and the VLS are in the B and Y positions (If neither case, just disregard). Also, as the design shows the battleship has several RAM launchers and dual purpose 5" guns (even listing them as the proposed 155mm AGS), you might as well list them, and if you remove two of the main gun turrets, you could probably slap in a few Yakhont-3 missiles firing from a VLS (as in my Monarch-class design (http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=130822), with the Yakhonts replacing the B turret).

On the cruiser, you could probably replace the 5" guns with single-mount 8" guns, as the Americans had considered doing with the Spruance-class ships in the 1980s.

Just a thought.
British Communists
06-04-2004, 19:47
I'll take 100 empire class battle ships at $200 billion. Money wired.
Argyllia
06-04-2004, 19:54
Ther is no way you can buy 100 of these they cost around 250 million a year to maintain which in itself is more than you can afford. 10 is your maximum.
Welsh Kingdoms
06-04-2004, 20:11
35knts! underpowered what knida speed do your ships go at, my carriers go 39 ans SSN's 45 but standard crusing speed is 22knts with a combat speed of only 31.

Keep the input coming

Sorry by underpowered i meant undergunned. A battleship with only 16 inch guns isnt very impressive. My battlecruisers have 18 inch guns and my battleships have 22 inch guns. So maybe you should consider upgrading your guns.
Doujin
07-04-2004, 07:02
The Iowa itself would be considered a Battlecruiser, sacrificing armour for speed. How well armoured is your "Battlecruiser" Welsh Kingdoms? And also, if it isn't fast it really isn't considered a "Battlecruiser" but a Battleship in itself. I'd consider a ship with 18" guns a Battleship none-the-less, and not a Battlecruiser.
Argyllia
07-04-2004, 07:04
Main Armament for the Battleship is the VLS launchers, the 9 16" guns provide Fire Support for troops in land and are basically obselete in ship to ship warfare in the real world and even more in the NS one.

In answer to a previous question, the VLS systems under each gun barrel are 6 feet lower than the deck protected by a 2 feet thick fire door which prevents the flame of the Guns setting off the missiles
Doujin
07-04-2004, 07:23
Main Armament for the Battleship is the VLS launchers, the 9 16" guns provide Fire Support for troops in land and are basically obselete in ship to ship warfare in the real world and even more in the NS one.

In answer to a previous question, the VLS systems under each gun barrel are 6 feet lower than the deck protected by a 2 feet thick fire door which prevents the flame of the Guns setting off the missiles

OOC: I wouldn't go so far to declare 16" guns obsolete -.- Also, the pics are a bit large.
Argyllia
10-04-2004, 10:33
Bump
Doujin
10-04-2004, 10:34
OOC: Do you still wish to join the OMP Argyllia?

Organization of Maritime Powers (http://s6.invisionfree.com/orgmp/)
Argyllia
10-04-2004, 10:38
I though I had joined and I was infact in the process of posting my fleet on the message board. :D
Doujin
10-04-2004, 10:40
:oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:
Argyllia
10-04-2004, 13:03
BUMP
Argyllia
10-04-2004, 19:07
bump
Argyllia
11-04-2004, 16:28
BUMP
Sarzonia
11-04-2004, 17:46
35knts! underpowered what knida speed do your ships go at, my carriers go 39 ans SSN's 45 but standard crusing speed is 22knts with a combat speed of only 31.

Keep the input coming

[OOC: Only three 16 inch guns for a battleship? That seems awfully underarmed. Otherwise, it seems pretty comparable to the Iowa class battleship.]
Argyllia
11-04-2004, 17:53
In this case the 16" guns are a secondary armament, the VLS is the primary armament. It has 196 cells a huge ammount of missiles that can be fired in a relatively small amount of time. A review of the Fleets battleships 2 years ago revealed that to replace 16" guns with 18" or 20" would result in a increase of over 30,000 tons putting total tonnage at 100,000 tons which would be the same size of my carriers. A proposed project is for a 12 gun 18" Battleship for inshore bombardment, this without the VLS would weigh in at 88,000 tons. Thanks for the comment.
Argyllia
11-04-2004, 21:26
bump
Argyllia
12-04-2004, 13:37
bump
12-04-2004, 13:43
Sicrat will take 15 of your Empire battleships.


OOC: You should consider calling them missile battleships :)
Argyllia
13-04-2004, 06:56
Confirmed, that would be a first a BBG. :D
Argyllia
14-04-2004, 16:59
Bump