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Massive Bombings in Midlonia's Camewot - Page 2

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Camewot
08-04-2004, 14:09
I found out when I asked it:

[img]http://www.myimgs.com/data/Cata/Map Camewot.jpg[img]
Camewot
08-04-2004, 14:09
I found out when I asked it:

[img]http://www.myimgs.com/data/Cata/Map Camewot.jpg[img]
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 14:10
The JXN-87s come within range of the targets.
The strike commander came over the radio
"Ok, I want a nice even spread. Split into 5 groups of 60, pick targets of opportunity, and spread even. Don't forget you aren't confined to 6 feet, jump if you need to. If we're lucky they won't know what hit 'em. Accelerate to max speed (300mph) and engage.
All the missiles slid into position. The BC battle fleet looming very large. They must be able to see them by now, they were so close. They couldn't hit them though, that much was for certain. Only planes and missiles take these out. He was sure of it.
"Fire at will!"
A wave of missiles soared from the JXNs, just 6 feet from the surface.
(OOC: ns is uber Fubar for me, so it is difficult for me to even get to the reply stage, never mind actually replying, so this battle is going to be difficult for me to RP)
Camewot
08-04-2004, 14:12
:( how come it cant be displayed?
Dracun imperium
08-04-2004, 14:12
The dracun reinforcements arrive at the dock which was cleard so the refreshed troops could get a chance to get there fast and begin fighting. They spilled out of the transport heading for the twin cities overhead helicopter and fighter flew over to attack all who stood in their way


meanwhile in the city Fighting was growing harder some might say too hard but the fighter of dracun imperium continued to fight going street by street block by block. with each group came a tank. therer was only mabey 100 tanks inside the city. Explosion rocked the ground. Fighter were crashing everywhere and helicopter as well dracun soilder hardly adnvanced at all due to the large amount of troops.
"Where are those troop thrawn promised us" one trooper asked
"They should be here any moment"another answered. Soon enough overhead fighter and bombers were heard in the distance
"There coming" they all screamed loud cheers came and with a sudden bust of morale the dracun troops charged
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 14:13
"Sir we have incoming, enemy fighters."
"Are the sams up and running yet."
"No sir they are at present still being unloaded."
"Order the fighters to engage"

The circling sith fighters left thies holding positions and made off towards the incoming wetland fighters
British Communists
08-04-2004, 14:13
http://www.myimgs.com/data/Cata/Map%20Camewot.jpg
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 14:13
Mean wile air craft fly over land 30 feet from the battle zone.
They finly make it and begain to fly over scouting for enmmys first.


OOC : Hey i was asked here to help you and you guys have the gaul to ignore me pfft you dont desrve my help
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 14:20
Captain hrogoth and his squad were the first to hit the enemy lines. Sniper fire was bouncing off his full body armour where others were not so lucky. He came to the first enemy he saw and let them have it, a gernade rolled to his feet it was the last thing he saw.

The tanks thundered towards the city, ignoring the infantry they screamed into the cities buildings at 50mph. The tanks crashed through the super structures of the buildings intent on causing them to collapse.

The more cautious General Sidious and his birgade advanced quickly heading for the artillery positions.

communications are eratic, casulties are unknown at present

Dead unknown
wounded unknown
prisoners none will be taken
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 14:24
:?
British Communists
08-04-2004, 14:28
Sniper fire doesn't "bounce" off anything. Most sniper rifles can fire through brick walls with just one shot.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 14:30
(I guess no one sees my air craft around the battle zone maby i should get out of this thread and place ignore one you for ignoreing me eh ?)
British Communists
08-04-2004, 14:31
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 14:42
Jordaxian airbases scramble 300 Dracun fighters, and 50 RF-X8s to intercept Feds strike.
Wetland
08-04-2004, 14:46
Forums are not working
Wetland
08-04-2004, 14:46
not for me anyway.
Wetland
08-04-2004, 14:49
oops, last post for today I think.
Wetland
08-04-2004, 14:50
The Fireflies noticed the enemy aircraft and 10 broke of to engage the fighters while the rest now increased speed. The 10 that met the fighters quickly fired a missile at the fighters.
On the ground the T-90S engaged the enemy tanks while the V-8 Scoundrels circeld around the enemy group and attacked from the side.

Meanwhile the FB-1's and FB-1B's had noticed the enemy crafts skimming over the water. They decided to use their AA missiles on them and each fired 2 missiles at the strange aircraft. 90 Missiles in all.

OOC: Jordaxia my submarines have already fired 36 torpedoes on your carrriers before they launched their aircraft. I am also waiting on your response on the attack by my aircraft with 80 Yakhont-3 anti-ship missiles.
Sith my artillery has been pounding yours for some time now but you have yet to tell me how much they hit! And don't godmod.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 14:51
Jordaxian airbases scramble 300 Dracun fighters, and 50 RF-X8s to intercept Feds strike.
F-22's , {F-35's} .and F-77's brake off to hold off the incomeing interseptors
The F-77's brake mac 3 up to mac 4 . the F-77's then begin to manuver around (slowing a bit ) o get behind the enmmy air craft.

Mean wile the F-15's contunie to fly around and attacK Enmmy Anti Air battrys droping laser guided bombs and 250 Poundders.

(F – 77
Air Superiority craft
Armament:
8 x Air to Air Xavier long range (Four on each wing)
4 x Short range Super side-winder fire-and-forget missiles
2 x 35mm Vulcan cannons (1 in each wing root)
Electronics: Advanced ECM system, inc1uding internal radar jammer
Length: 43 ft
Wingspan: 37 ft
Engines: 2 x MAIE-983 Hybrid turbines, vectored thrust
Max speed: Mach 4
Cruise speed: Mach 2.1) (some credit gose to MC well most of it i :P)
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 14:55
First of all jordaxia has already responded and has posted that some of his carriers were damaged.

And i must emphasise this my forces pulled out of range AFTER THEY FIRED THE FIRST GAS VOLLEY.

READ THE POSTS CAREFULLY. no insult intended

you hit no tanks as I pulled away as your artillery was aiming
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 15:16
I am announcing the withdrawel of all sith forces from cemewot to the burning city. Unified Sith is no longer a part of this war however we will not give up our territory. All troops are being recalled. All tanks and fighters have ceased fire. I will assume that all other nations will do the same to sith forces after all. You do want peace.

We ask that our merchant ships be allowed to dock so my forces can make thier way home. We will however not leave the burning city it is R.I.A property.

UNIFIED SITH IS NOW NEUTRAL.
Camewot
08-04-2004, 15:17
Youre not Neutral untill you have left the burning city!
Camewot
08-04-2004, 15:17
Youre not Neutral untill you have left the burning city!
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 15:22
Humm if Unifyed sith dosient get out of burning city ill land troops and force him out.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 15:25
Humm if Unifyed sith dosient get out of burning city ill land troops and force him out.
McLeod03
08-04-2004, 15:26
The strike groups, having so far faced no defensive forces, launched.


<Strike Groups Alpha and Bravo>

As one, the EB-52s and the B-7s launched their payloads at the Jordaxian fleet. 768 Wolverine cruise missiles lept from rotary launchers, missile pods, and hardpoints, and began rapid descents to just above sea level, accelerating to close to the speed of sound.

The B-7s turned back towards McLeod03 as the EB-52s launched their second strike payload, some 96 Python Mach 2 anti-radiation missiles. The missiles homed in on active radar sources throughout the Jordaxian fleet, and were programmed to loiter over a target area, waiting for any active radar transmissions for up to half an hour.


<Strike Group Charlie>

The 48 EB-1Cs launched a devastating attack on the Unified Sith ground troops. 96 Wolverine-FAE missiles soared towards their targets, the troops surrounding the twin cities. As an afterthought, 576 cruise missiles were fired at vehicle lagars and supply points throughout the US advance, their multiple payloads spreading over vast areas.


OOC info:

Wolverines and Wolverine FAEs are possibly the most advanced cruise missiles you lot will ever have seen. Each has two internal weapons bays and a 250lb thermite warhead. Using internal radar systems, they can attack up to three targets, two from the bays and one with the warhead. They will also re-attack their primary targets if required.

Each uses active wing technology to be able to pull extremely tight turns, easily evading 75% of incoming bullets and missiles. They also mount chaff and flare dispensers to fool any guidance systems on CIWS or SAM systems. In other words, you won't shoot many down.


OOC for Unified Sith:

I assume you know what an FAE is? If not -

FAE - Fuel Air Explosive. Basically, spreads a highly flamable substance over a large area, then uses a detonator to ignite said substance. Causes a fireball some half a mile in diameter. Said to be the most powerful conventional weapon in RL.
Dracun imperium
08-04-2004, 15:59
The rest of the dracun fighter arrive with the helicopters and began pounding enemy resistance and SAM batteries. The d-52 unload their entire payloads upon all enemy held ground. And the d-83 engage all enemy fighter and shoot some down.
air losses-5 d-52
8 d-82
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meanwhile the dracun reinforcements arrive and reinforce the dracun troops. Blazer helicopter pound where dracun troops are held down. The war has gone yet to another stage
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Dracun emperor malek talked with his advisors"I Have a plan that can end this peacefully"sate said
"Well go on sate tell me"the emperor said impaitently
"We create two seperate countries"
"What do you mean?"the emperor said intriqued
"Well simple mi, lord we create an east and west camewot east beloning to us west beloning to them"sate finished
"Alright excellent idea sate send it to all parties involved in the war"
"Yes mi,lord "the telegram was sent

(((sorry i couldnt do it better doing it in school))
Camewot
08-04-2004, 16:09
Dont start talking about a separation of the country, look at the map in page 13, you havent got much of my land!
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 16:21
The rest of the dracun fighter arrive with the helicopters and began pounding enemy resistance and SAM batteries. The d-52 unload their entire payloads upon all enemy held ground. And the d-83 engage all enemy fighter and shoot some down.
air losses-5 d-52
8 d-82
--------------------------------------------------------------
meanwhile the dracun reinforcements arrive and reinforce the dracun troops. Blazer helicopter pound where dracun troops are held down. The war has gone yet to another stage
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Dracun emperor malek talked with his advisors"I Have a plan that can end this peacefully"sate said
"Well go on sate tell me"the emperor said impaitently
"We create two seperate countries"
"What do you mean?"the emperor said intriqued
"Well simple mi, lord we create an east and west camewot east beloning to us west beloning to them"sate finished
"Alright excellent idea sate send it to all parties involved in the war"
"Yes mi,lord "the telegram was sent

(((sorry i couldnt do it better doing it in school))
...

50 F-77's Bolt out and quickly make there way to buring city. a few momnet later they arrive at Mach 4

[code:1:241ea9c478] to Unifyed sith With Draw or Fedral troops willl land ... this is your last waring[/code:1:241ea9c478]

A few Trasports carrying 150,000 troops 1500 xsavier tanks
150 Patriot tanks and 500 Bradly fighting vechals.
Will arrive at the shores nhear buring city in (48 NS hours )
Ruissia
08-04-2004, 16:39
over 300 b-53, b-52s cargo version, was seen in the air yesterday as they dropped Ruissia soldiers into Camewot in massive numbers. These soldiers will be backing up the Communist side.
Midlonia
08-04-2004, 16:54
Dont start talking about a separation of the country, look at the map in page 13, you havent got much of my land!

there is the problem that we are shelling your "twin cities" to peices, so perhaps you should mark that on the map, also perhaps you shoud give into the fact that the front line is a bit further on than that.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 17:04
Mildonia .. dont press me .... you wont win ....

ANy way Fedral Troops tanks and equipment has landed near" Buring city"

Air cover was quickly established as 10 F-77's and 10 F-15 cercialed around.
Friyusistan
08-04-2004, 17:05
Responding to the alliance our nation has with Wetland, and because we are member of the Comunnist Alliance, we are sending a combat force to support our allies and Camewot. The force is composed by:

2 Carrier Battle Group (each formed by the following units):
1xNicholas Kerensky Class CVN
2xCarrack Class CG Export
4xSparrowhawk Class DDG Export
2xSniper Class DD Export
2xProwler Class FFG Export
2xHunter Class FF Export
2xLos Angelas Class SSN
2xAOE-6 Fast Combat Stores Ship
1xT-AO 187 Fleet Replenishment Oiler
24xF-14D Tomcat
48xF/A-18E/F Super Hornet
4xEA-6B Prowler
4xE-2C Hawkeye
8xS-3B Viking
28xSH-60B LAMPS III
8xSH-60F Seahawk
4xHH-60H
8xCH-46 Sea Knight

2 Medium Carrier Battle Group (each formed by):
1xMarian Stanton Class CVM
2xCarrack Class CG Export
3xSparrowhawk Class DDG Export
1xSniper Class DD Export
1xProwler Class FFG Export
2xHunter Class FF Export
2xLos Angeles Class SSN
1xAOE-6 Fast Combat Stores Ship
1xT-AO 187 Fleet Replenishment Oiler
12xF-14D Tomcat
24xF/A-18E/F Super Hornet
3xEA-6B Prowler
3xE-2C Hawkeye
4xS-3B Viking
4xSH-60F Seahawk
20xSH-60B LAMPS III
2xHH-60H
4xCH-46

2 Submarine Groups (each formed by):
24xSSN-688I Los Angeles
1xAS-39 Emory S. Land Submarine Tender

2 Amphibious Groups (each formed by):
1xLCC-19 Blue Ridge Joint Command Ship
4xRaptor Class LHD
2xSamurai Class LHA
5xLPD-4 Austin
2xLSD-49 Harper’s Ferry
5xLSD-41 Whidbey Island
36xLCU-1600
28xLCM-8
36xF-35B JSF
24xAH-1W Supercobra
92xCH-46 Sea Knight
44xCH-53E Super Stallion
24xMV-67
22xUH-60L Black Hawk
4xHH-60H
Landing capability (per group): 20,000 troops, for a total of 40,000

1 Destroyer Squadron (formed by):
4xSparrowhawk DDG Export
3xSniper DD Export
1xT-AKE 1 Multiproduct Replenishment Ship
18xSH-60B LAMPS III
2xCH-46 Sea Knight

1 Frigate Squadron (formed by):
6xProwler FFG Export
6xSH-60B LAMPS III

2 LCS Squadrons (each formed by):
6xTarantula LCS Export
6xSH-60B LAMPS III

AND

1 Prepositioning Squadron (formed by):
7xT-AKR 300 Bob Hope
This ships will be transporting the following:
Armored Division:
290xIron Cheetah Export MBT
27xM1A2 Abrams MBT
251xMist Lynx Export IFV
41xMist Lynx Export CFV
54xM2001A1 Crusader SPG
18xM270A1 MLRS
60xM1064 Self-Propelled Mortar Carrier
66xMist Lynx Export FISTV
258xM113A3 APC
162xM577A3 CPV
37xKodiak Armored Breaching Vehicle (IC Chassis)
36xM946 Combat Engineering Vehicle (IC Chassis)
72xM9 Armored Combat Earthmover
84xM88A2 Hercules Armored Recovery Vehicle
18xM93A1 Fox NBC Recon Vehicle
18xVolcano Mine Dispenser
36xMongoose Mine-Clearing Launcher
36xIron Cheetah AVLB
72xMist Lynx Linebacker Export FAADV
54xAvenger FAADV
36xCLAWS Air Defense Vehicle
48xAH-64D Apache Attack Helicopter
32xUH-60L Black Hawk Utility Helicopter
16xOH-58D Kiowa Recon/Light Attack Helicopter
3xEH-60 Quick Fix EW Helicopter
1800xAssorted HMMWV
2200xAssorted Truck
10,000 Infantry

AND

1 Urban Combat Division (formed by):
174xMerkava 4 MBT
27xM1A2 Abrams MBT
367xNova Cat Export IFV
41xNova Cat Export CFV
54xM2001A1 Crusader SPG
18xM270A1 MLRS
60xM1064 Self-Propelled Mortar Carrier
66xNova Cat Export FISTV
314xM113A3 APC
211xM577A3 CPV
37xKodiak Armored Breaching Vehicle (IC Chassis)
36xM946 Combat Engineering Vehicle (IC Chassis)
72xM9 Armored Combat Earthmover
84xM88A2 Hercules Armored Recovery Vehicle
18xM93A1 Fox NBC Recon Vehicle
18xVolcano Mine Dispenser
36xMongoose Mine-Clearing Launcher
36xIron Cheetah AVLB
72xMist Lynx Linebacker Export FAADV
54xAvenger FAADV
36xCLAWS Air Defense Vehicle
48xAH-64D Apache Attack Helicopter
32xUH-60L Black Hawk Utility Helicopter
16xOH-58D Kiowa Recon/Light Attack Helicopter
3xEH-60 Quick Fix EW Helicopter
1600xAssorted HMMWV
2100xAssorted Truck
15,000 Infantry

FOR UNITS STATS GO TO:
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=68948
and
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=75689&highlight=

OOC: Unified Sith, there's no way your economy can support 20,000 tanks and everithing you have in Camewot, including the daily supplies you need.
Friyusistan
08-04-2004, 17:16
The force will be arriving in 1 NS week.
Camewot
08-04-2004, 17:38
Dont start talking about a separation of the country, look at the map in page 13, you havent got much of my land!

there is the problem that we are shelling your "twin cities" to peices, so perhaps you should mark that on the map, also perhaps you shoud give into the fact that the front line is a bit further on than that.

It isent, since you have not broke trough the twin citys yet, youre blowing it to pieces, yes, youre breaking trough it, no!
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 17:50
*Front Lines*

All seven Gothenburg-Franc Imperial Corps finally arrived at the front lines. All broke off their seperate attacks and formed up waiting for the orders from Marshal de Luynes. There was going to be a final push made with the fresh Goth-Franc forces. And it was coming ominously.

"Commander Thrawn, General Sidious...as a result of myself directing the infantry assault, I give you the command to use the Gothenburg-Franc I Air Corps under Air Marshal Vicennes to assisst in your bombing attacks!"

-Marshal de Luynes
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 18:02
What year is your tech Mcleod. No missiles maneouvre fast enough to dodge bullets, and have radar so sensitive as to detect them.
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 18:23
top secret R.I.A forces only
get out of the twin cities iam gonna blow em sky high.









Because you have used the fuel air bomb on my troops i am now diverting, my troops and tanks to use unconventioal weapons.

"Realy the command through the army unconventional weapons are to be used."

The tanks heading towards the burning city diverted some turned around and faced the twin cities.

"This is general sidious load the gas canisters b2."

The tanks although under heavy fire repositioned themselves they opened fire upon every populated area with canisters containg sarin gas and anthrax.

Out of the burning city came two trucks both containg dirty bombs, this was a measure the sith army hoped it would not have to use.

"Realy the command to the homeland order them to get the S.D batteries up and running, have all orbital satellites activated and ready to open fire to shoot down enemy icbm's."

The trucks proceeded towards the burning cities protected by every fighter the sith army had in the region.

"If they intend to have this city then no one can have it"

The timers were set the bombs were in position, buried half a km away from the twin cities protected by the remains of the sith army.

This rp grew boring so i intend to end it quickly as i cant be bothered any more.
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 18:28
*At the Twin Cities*

"I am not giving up on all this ground before half of my forces are even engaged!" Marshal de Luynes was furious. All seven Goth-Franc Imperial Corps prepared to storm the twin cities and hold them by brute force alone.

To All R.I.A. Allies:

Hit the enemy with everything you have now! Then cease all fire and barrages...any infantry support you can send ito the twin cities, do so.
This is our press.


Goth-Franc Battle Order

Command: Marshal de Luynes

I Corps: FM du Roi (52,00)
Divisions: Lautrec, Blanc, de Sauvon

II Corps: FM Bouisset (Yamarovkan Brigade included) (57,000)
Divisions: de Vinne, Artone, Breslin

III Corps: FM de Menier (52,000)
Divisions: Pejour-Russolo, Fournier, Epinne

IV Corps: FM de Couer (56,000)
Divisions: Acre, Gauliel, Deborne

V Corps: FM Gauguin (52,00)
Divisions: Corbet, DuChamp, St.Clair

VI Corps: FM de Sadie (52,000)
Divisions: Pegot, Valhubert, Pamieres

VII Corps: FM Beuharis (54,000)
Divisions: St.Sebastian, de Mhulienne, Mortier

The Corps of Gothenburg-Franc troops formed up just as they always had been drilled. Their plan was simple, a swift, rapid, and brutal advance into the heart of the Twin Cities. They would punch a hole into the enemy lines. Black uniforms and polished leather gear shone. Bayonets twinkled in the early afternoon sunlight. Artillery was brought in behind them. And then with drums beating, all 400,000 Goth-Franc soldiers began their charge into the enemy lines, and started to cheer.

In massive unwieldly Columns, they began to tear down the streets, with skirmishers out in front and as always, light artillery support behind them
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 18:29
To all Goth Franc Corps:

PULL BACK! Disengage....Disengage....

In an orderly retreat, the Gothenburg-Franc forces pulled out of the twin cities....
Camewot
08-04-2004, 18:29
Lol, the one is blowing them up while the others are attacking them like hell, hahahahahaha!
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 18:31
(OOC sith wtf? your ignoreing i have F-77's flying all over the place about to shoot down your fighters and helcoptors not to metion my troops just landed to get you out of the burnging city .... also I got invloved in this becuse SOME one Told me about it I EXPECT Not TO BE IGNORED all right ?)
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 18:33
"Ready the "GoalKeepers"! The Admiral ordered.
"Yes Sir!"
The missile defense turrets all pointed at the cruise missiles beginning to rain down on them.
"Fire!"
Every defense turret in the fleet opened fire on the cruise missiles that were plummeting towards them
(75% of 1000 bullets is still 250 bullets hitting them, enough to take them out.)
"Order... order the aircraft to intercept the missiles. Any way they can."
"Sir?"
"You heard me."
"Yes sir"
The order went out to stop the missiles.
Every plane in the air turned and headed towards them, all cannons firing in an attempt to create a net that the missiles couldn't avoid.
(As I'm sure you know, goalkeepers fire thousands of bullets every minute. Given the saturation of the attack, several bullets that miss could go on to hit. Also, given that they are falling at close to the speed of sound, attempting to turn at a very fast speed would destroy them.)
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 18:47
Fed Union if you look past to the previous posts you will find that you cant land your men in the burning city because the gothenberg navy and dracun navy and the remains of the midlonian navy is there. So unless there just going to let you pass you aint sending in any navy. This rp is just getting boring iam taking all of my forces out the nukes have been deactivated however we have fired the chemical weapons. My tanks will be destroyed and the remains of my infantry are heading back to the waiting convoy this war is over for unified sith. If anyone attacks my forces as they retreat iam going to nuke Cemawot as iam very bored of it.

Camewot supported a terrorist nation in the first place thats why we attacked, why do you help him when he screams imperialists. If it was a republican nation would you have still attacked. I sugest you all attack him as he was supporting terrorists that would have eventualy attacked your nations. My troops are boarding the transport ships if one and i mean one is sunk then Camewot will be on fire.
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 18:55
The JXNs ceased their attack on the BC fleet.
They raced back to the Main fleet, just as the missiles began to fall.
With orders to jump over the ships, they hoped that they incoming missiles would read them as interceptors and dodge. This would give the goalkeepers some time to destroy them.
(Fed. What makes you so sure that his fighters wouldn't fire back?
Also, there is a huge amount of Sams there, at least Midlonias and Siths. How do you propose to fly about so easily with Jordaxian fighters (350) Sith fighters and the Gothenburg air corp all attempting to intercept you?
Also, there are 2 hover carriers around that can launch 140 extra fighter bombers at you. They have been scrambled also.
(Fruyistan. How could you possibly have that ridiculously large force at hand, just waiting to set sail. That would take months, if not at least a year to get together.))
Swords of Chagal
08-04-2004, 18:57
The High General looked over a map of Camewot.
His Second in Command was with him.
"Their weak spot is the sea and the war zone..."The High General murmured.
"So should we insert into those places,sir?"
"The war zone is too risky...too many bullets flying back and forth,and even if we're nuetral,we'll probably still be shot at...We'll have to insert from the sea..."
"But the battle there is even more fier-"
"In several places.Here-"The General jabbed a finger at a place on the map."And here."He pointed to another spot."We can insert from those 2 places,in our Drop-Boxes."
"But,sire,they're big and rather -"
"They're the best thing we have,Second in Command.And we'll land at both places,so we have a better chance of getting through.Understand?"
"Yes,sir!"
"Good.Now all we have to do is to obtain the strychnine,that'll be easy enough,and get the insertion teams ready.That will be where you come in.But buy from ONLY these suppliers-"The General handed the Second in Command a small piece of paper with something scribbled on it.The Second in Command looked it over and swallowed the paper a moment later.
"-any other suppliers aren't reliable enough to buy from.Understood?"
"Yes,sir!"
The Second in Command retreated from the dimly lit room...
Swords of Chagal
08-04-2004, 18:57
The High General looked over a map of Camewot.
His Second in Command was with him.
"Their weak spot is the sea and the war zone..."The High General murmured.
"So should we insert into those places,sir?"
"The war zone is too risky...too many bullets flying back and forth,and even if we're nuetral,we'll probably still be shot at...We'll have to insert from the sea..."
"But the battle there is even more fier-"
"In several places.Here-"The General jabbed a finger at a place on the map."And here."He pointed to another spot."We can insert from those 2 places,in our Drop-Boxes."
"But,sire,they're big and rather -"
"They're the best thing we have,Second in Command.And we'll land at both places,so we have a better chance of getting through.Understand?"
"Yes,sir!"
"Good.Now all we have to do is to obtain the strychnine,that'll be easy enough,and get the insertion teams ready.That will be where you come in.But buy from ONLY these suppliers-"The General handed the Second in Command a small piece of paper with something scribbled on it.The Second in Command looked it over and swallowed the paper a moment later.
"-any other suppliers aren't reliable enough to buy from.Understood?"
"Yes,sir!"
The Second in Command retreated from the dimly lit room...
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:01
(OOC: Who are you? who do you support?)
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 19:02
My troops and the rest of my army has boarded the transport fleet, We are leaving Camewot, do not shoot any of the transports they are leaving the docks of the burning city.

I know when a battle is lost, however Camewot if you support any terrorist nation in the future i will nuke you to the ground.
Momanguise
08-04-2004, 19:07
"The Idiots! They're charging into their own poision!"

(ooc: geez, US really takes defeat badly!)

Momanguise heavy machine guns raked the advancing infantry. Snipers rifles crackeld as they swept the Gothenburg Franc positions. The medium artillery, salveged from the initial bombardment of the city open up on the G-F artillery.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 19:07
Fed Union if you look past to the previous posts you will find that you cant land your men in the burning city because the gothenberg navy and dracun navy and the remains of the midlonian navy is there. So unless there just going to let you pass you aint sending in any navy. This rp is just getting boring iam taking all of my forces out the nukes have been deactivated however we have fired the chemical weapons. My tanks will be destroyed and the remains of my infantry are heading back to the waiting convoy this war is over for unified sith. If anyone attacks my forces as they retreat iam going to nuke Cemawot as iam very bored of it.

Camewot supported a terrorist nation in the first place thats why we attacked, why do you help him when he screams imperialists. If it was a republican nation would you have still attacked. I sugest you all attack him as he was supporting terrorists that would have eventualy attacked your nations. My troops are boarding the transport ships if one and i mean one is sunk then Camewot will be on fire.

Therse better ways of dealing wiht this Btw i landed them away form burning city not in it i landed my troops were my navay is .. witch is like 25 - 50 miles away


Mean wile Fedral troops being marching towrds buring city from 50 mils away tanks and equipment behind .
Unified Sith
08-04-2004, 19:12
I have evacuated and the convoy is heading towards Sith national waters.

I dont take defeat badly iam just sick of everyone god moding. We are all doing it.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 19:14
(humm i think you retreated becuse you were going to get pummepld buy evry one )
ANy way Fed troops march up a narow high way twords buring city .(if any one wants to attack my troops do it now dont ignore this post and blow me off it urks me )

Once we sucer burning city we'll hand it over to the goverment of this nation...
Momanguise
08-04-2004, 19:14
ooc: I have? *looks around suspiciously*
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:19
I'm sorry. How do you negotiate with terrorists? I must have missed that when they attack people and don't listen to what you say.
There is no better way to deal with those who harbour terrorists than to eliminate them. He is right. If it was the democratic democracy of democratia, you would have supported us in the war against Camewot. Because we stand for innovation and enterprise, survival of the fittest, in other words, imperialism, you defend the terrorists. If we stood for stagnation, for decadence, for republicanism, you would be on our side in a flash. I see now how other peoples minds operate. I pity them. War brings change. Change brings advances. Human civilisation must advance, or we exist for nothing.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 19:21
Jordaxia you did not post a responce to my F-77's attacking your air craft.... please do so ... am i wrogn that mildonia is invloved to ? if he is ill start fighting him to... we are mearly trying to push un whanted imprlist invaders out of this country ... your trying to pull an irauq .)
Momanguise
08-04-2004, 19:24
I would rather be a freeman in rags than a prisoner in riches.

Camewot is not a terrorist nation. The bombings were carried out by groups seperate from the goverment.
Swords of Chagal
08-04-2004, 19:24
(OOC: Who are you? who do you support?)
OOC:Noone,really.Just hired to spread as much death as possible.
IC:
The High General swept his eyes over the Drop-Boxes.Both loaded with 6 men and 12 pounds of strychnine.Both armed with SRM's and configured M-60 machine guns.Both heading for Camewot.
A booming voice filled the make-shift dock.
"Launching DB's in 2 minutes.All personnel,get back 10 feet from launch site.Launching in 2 minutes."
A whirring sound started,gears turned,and the DB's started lowering into the water.3 feet from the water,the clamps released,dropping the DB's into the water with a large splash.
A large pole came out of the clamps,and hooked on to the DB's.
A crackle was heard,and a surge of electricity was wired from the clamps to the DB's.
The DB's started up,the poles were removed,and the DB's sped away,into the night.
*****************************

10:07 AM,North Point of Camewot's coastline...
The DB chugged towards the drop-off point.Land was in sight,but so were several ships...
11:35 AM,Sount Point of Camewot's coastline...
No ships were in sight.The DB was going full speed towards the drop-off point.Land was estimated to be in sight in an hour.The men loaded their weapons and rechecked their rather sloppily forged identities,but good enough to fool everything up to a extensive search.Then they poured strychnine into their water bottles.Hopefully it would work...
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:25
(actually Momanguise, I don't think you God-Modded once. You were the only person who didn't really. I hope that I didn't G-mode too much though.) That was OOC, by the way.
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 19:29
*Front Lines, falling back*

Goth-Franc troops cheered yet again, for finally they were confronting the infantry enemy they had desired. Chasseurs in the lead ranks screamed as Momanguise snipers shot them down. But more poured heavy 50 caliber fire into the sniper positions. Officers screamed and shouted..."Fall back! Unified Sith forces are retreating! They have poisioned the cities!" In a hugue disoprderly mass, Gothenburg-Franc troops careened backwards, screaming and firing at the enemy. Field Marshal Beuharis was blasted in the shoulder by a sniper's bullet, tearing his dress epulatte off and sending him reeling. Confuison set in as the Goth-Franc troops began to fall back towards their seige trenches. Artillery opened up on the twin cities trying to target Momanguise positions.

de Luynes was furious. Really furious. "They just abandoned the fighting at our moment of triumph! God!" He pranced around the confused officers milling about. "Fall back to the Burning City trenches. We will not let the enemy pass!"

To All R.I.A. members:

Break off your assaults! Fall back to the Burning City and do not let the enemy break through your lines! We have not lost!

Marshal de Luynes
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:29
Where were the investigations by Camewot into the attacks. Where was the condemnation of Gilabad by Camewot. Why hasn't Camewot even asked real HLF troops to leave yet? and Mro. If Camewot was even half as noble as it claims, it would have turned them away instantly. I would have, invaded or not. Maybe Camewot doesn't participate in terrorism, but it doesn't do anything to stop it, in fact, it allows them into its borders, and condemns those who attack them. What more can I say?
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 19:31
To Swords of Chagal:

Stay out of this if you know whats good for you.

Please.

The Direcotry of Gothenburg-Franc
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:31
Whatever Jordaxia still has left will be pulled back immediatly.
Whilst we do not wish this war to continue any longer, we refuse to abandon allies.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 19:31
All right since you people dont want me in this thread and since you IGNORE ME FOR NO RESON i hear buy fire the IGNORE cannon on you
Now yull be ignored if you ever want to rp with me . Humph!
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 19:35
Jordaxia, please link up with Goth-Franc troops...together we can provide an effective defensive. We still have Dracun troops, and Midlonians preasent on this soil. Together we can form a bull-ring if you will around the Burnign City. This can be our last line of defensive. Most of my forces have not been engaged. I do not know why sith broke off the engagement, but we can hold the land gained.

To all nations opposed to the R.I.A.

The R.I.A. proposes an immediate ceasefire.....
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:40
As you wish. We shall do all we can to help hold the city. The attack by Mcleod damaged and destroyed a large portion of my navy, but what is left should provide an efficient defense if pushed.
(I have no idea what my casualties should be like in this regard. I believe that my navy survived the attack, but that most is pretty battered up.
Also, the attack may be ignored if he is too future tech. I don't know any missiles that can turn to any significant degree at mach 1 and 2.
I left a slightly unsavoury message on the RIA forum. Consider it retracted.)
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 19:48
Jordaxia I agree completley with you. You were perfectly right. We were unprepared and uncoordinated. I tried to hold this together...but we acted as individuals rather than the powerful alliance we should be. We need to reorganzie, and replan. Also a recruitment drive wil be in the future.

Hmm a learning experiance?

Now though, we need to hold what we have.
Swords of Chagal
08-04-2004, 19:54
To Swords of Chagal:

Stay out of this if you know whats good for you.

Please.

The Direcotry of Gothenburg-Franc
Sorry,if I'm paid to do something,I carry through with it.And in this case I'm already in too deep.
Friyusistan
08-04-2004, 19:55
What are your conditions for a cease of fire???

Jordaxia: I bougth my entire army trough a contract with Clan Smoke Jaguar (you can confirmate that) It was delivered and paid over a 5 years pedriod. Also, my military budget (around 525 billions a year) allows me to be fully ready at any time. And also, that is not my entire navy :)
I have 5 more carriers group (altougth a ligther version)
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 19:55
Agreed. Since nobody targetted my carriers, they are still there. Deploy where you wish. Also, nobody seemed to target my helicopters after the ambush, so they are still there.
Also, with the corps, I sent 1000 T-90s , to be deployed also.
Gothenburg-Franc
08-04-2004, 19:57
Ceasefire Conditions:

Let us keep the Burning City as an R.I.A. port. Everything else goes back to Camewot.
The Fedral Union
08-04-2004, 20:00
Apprently "im out of youre little rp group " well ill sil be observing thsi thread i see none of you miss me...)
Momanguise
08-04-2004, 20:16
In Twin City, a Momanguise conscript looks up to the sky, and sees a Federal Union plane scream past.

'Bless 'em Fedral Unionists, I sure am glad they are on our side.' he says
Momanguise
08-04-2004, 20:23
Momanguise cannot comment upon the cease fire, because of a lack of historical involvement in the area.
Friyusistan
08-04-2004, 21:01
My nation propose a total cease of fire from both sides, beginning now, and for a 2-day period. In this 2 days, the countries involved in this conflict will star peace talks. Agreed? My figthers will stay in their carriers, my troops won't disembarc. Let's hope this is enough to finish this absurd conflict.
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 21:24
This is being considered. Given I do not speak for the RIA before they have been consulted, I cannot say yes or no. However, I believe it will be affirmitive.
McLeod03
08-04-2004, 22:12
OOC:

Jordaxia, you still need to post losses from my attack.

I am modern tech plus two years in technology status. The missiles use adaptive wing technology, allowing them to pretty much bend the wings and body, enabling them to jink very sharply, even at high speeds. The second a radar guidance system from Goalkeeper or any other CIWS locks on, the missile starts jinking. Carriers would also be prime targets, so i'd expect high losses.

And Unified Sith, i'd like some losses from the hardware i launched at you too.
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 22:23
I thought that you might say that it was from the guidance. Thats why I am having manual controls run from the bridge to the keepers.
(This obviously is after the attack.)
Can I ask you for an honest answer here? I am fairly new to NS, and this was my first proper war. With the defensive measures that I put in place, and given it was only the carriers that pinged active sonar (can your missiles detect that too? I would imagine so.) I have genuinly no idea of how much I would be likely to sustain. I had 300 ships attempting to make the missiles dodge, and every ship that could was firing. I also had planes under orders to bring them down in any way possible. So, honestly, how much would I be likely to sustain?
Also, even with adaptive wing, how do your missiles survive the force to trun at such a large angle without breaking up?
McLeod03
08-04-2004, 22:38
I would have said, from that size strike, based on the sort of defences you have, roughl 2/3rds of the fleet damaged or sunk, with most of the carriers out of action completely, either through sinking or major damage to the flight deck. The missiles were flying a sea-skimming profile, so intercepting them would be difficult, as would attempting to get aircraft in the way.

The cruise missiles are capable of 12 G turns, using titanium alloy structure with SMP skin. Expensive, but can take a hell of a pounding in terms of jinks.
Jordaxia
08-04-2004, 22:54
The 300 planes i sent were also ground skimmers, that move at 300mph. They would be firing missiles in the same direction, as well as machine gun rounds.
30mm. Still, the damage seems fairly accurate, and i will likely post it, if the groundskimmers would make little difference.
Friyusistan
09-04-2004, 00:15
Our fleet has arrived. We won't take any offensive action until the cease fire is denied or refused by the RIA.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 01:40
We accept the cease-fire.
Negotiations shall commence tomorrow, when all parties can attend.
Dracun imperium
09-04-2004, 03:16
ooc-im gone for the day and all this ha :shock: lol
Ic -"Pull back now all R.I.A. forces have pulled back so shall we pull back immiedetly now!all forces pull back biological weapons have been used.!"general veers shouted over the intercom of his tank. A mad rush follows and the armed force fall back to burned city.
losses
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tanks-879
infantry-3,786
helicopters-35
d-52-27
d-83-41
dracun predators-81
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The dracun imperium will be sending delegate Mon mothma to represent the imperium in the talks.
British Communists
09-04-2004, 10:40
I come back and theres 4 more pages :shock: I assume theres a cease-fire?
Camewot
09-04-2004, 10:46
There isent, I want the burning city back, my people want it to, they have send me a message if there is a cease fire with all land returning to Camewot but the Burning City, bombings will go on...
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 10:52
Who said that bombings will continue?
The RIA agreed to a cease-fire. If everybody is willing, talks can begin today. Friyusistan is moderating I believe.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 10:53
Resistance you now...
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 10:54
Momanguise is willing to engage in peace talks. It also informs the RIA nations that POW's taken during the war may be used as bargining counters.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 10:55
Alright then, Im willing to talk!
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:03
Just to update y'all, Momanguise forces have now succeded in seccuring Twin City. Checkpoints have been set up all round the city, along with listening posts close to the east/west devide, in case of another invasion. (These are quite low tech, so it is'nt spying.)

Casualties

Militia: 4000 aprox

Army Regulars : 2893

Tanks : 34 ZLT Light Tanks

Planes : N/A

POW taken : 5672
British Communists
09-04-2004, 11:05
I'm willing to start talks too.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 11:11
Momanguise, pull up until the edges of the Burning City plz
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:15
Sorry Camewot, I am not prepared to enter negotiations on an aggressive stance.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 11:16
They retreated in the Burning City, so its no that hard to pull up in front the burning city no?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:17
A show of military force could be constructed by them as a threat. Besides, my military is not too impressive.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 11:18
Ok,Ok, when do negotiations begin?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:19
Not sure. Camewot, could I have permission to establish a factory complex inside of Twin City?
Camewot
09-04-2004, 11:20
After negotiations plz?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:22
Fair enough. It's just that in the case of yet another RIA invasion, it would be difficult to transport large army's to Camewot's aid.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 11:23
So you are just gonna keep them there?
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 11:24
Negotiations will not commence until at least me and Gothenburg are here.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:24
For the moment, with your permission of course. I am hoping to upgrade it with my new improved military.
Wetland
09-04-2004, 11:44
OOC: wow a lot of pages.

IC: "Ok tell the fleet to stand down and bring the fighters back. How many losses?"
"One FB-1 had technical difficulties and crashed, we lost 50 of our Wildcats. Apparantly they tried to chase the retreating army and got involved with some tanks. We also lost 5 Scoundrel and 30 T-90S tanks."
"Ah yes the ground forces. Let the 70 remaining T-90S tanks along with 100 Wildcats and 100 Bobcats reinforce Momanguises checkpoints. The rest will fall back and only respond in case of another attack by the RIA."
Ensign bursts into the room.
"Sith is retreating, Sith is retreating!"
"Yes we know the RIA is retreating."
"No, sir Sith is leaving the country, all of them!"
"Hmm, tell our subs not to interfere. Let them pass and send a message to Friyusistan to thank them for their aid."
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 11:50
Unified Sith forces have left Camewot due to an attempted assasination upon the emperor. Our investigation is underway to find the coward who could commit such a cowardly attack. Be rest assured we will find out who committed this crime.

Our forces are needed in the homeland to help subdue cival unrest caused by this outragous attack.

The emperor is stable although at present he is in a coma, The chancellor is assuming power at this point in time.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 11:58
ooc: Does that mean you will still participate in negeociatiions (mega sp)?
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:10
Let me assure everyone the burning city is R.I.A property we will not allow it to be given up. That is my only negotiation.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:16
Hardly a negotiation. Legally Burning City is the property of Camewot.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:25
legally it is however Camewot shows no regard to law and order through his state sponsered terrorism.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:26
I DONT SPONSOR TERRORISM, FOR GODS SAKE I EVEN FOUGHT AGAINST IT!
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:28
what about the incident with gillibad. Rest assured if it was not for the intervention of the international commuinity you would be dust.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:30
I just condemned it, remember?
If anyone is the terrorist it should be Midlonia, he started war, I dident knew Gilabad were terrorists, I condemned the war, he attacked me!
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:31
For a desperate nation, fighting against a powerful coalition of imperialist nations, freedom fighters are an acceptable option.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:33
Camewot you are right, Midlonia has left the R.I.A and has declared war upon me. In light of this double cross we ask that the gostilities be forgotten. You can join the R.I.A if you like take midlonias place. Then there will be no problem as since we will be allies you will have the burning city back no problem.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:36
Not interested, Im not an Imperialist.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:37
You dont have to be, you only need to hate midlonia. The R.I.A is going to invade and crush him. Why not fight side by side with us. and get your vengance.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:38
How Cheap. You occupy a country, fuck up his economy, set up concentration camps, and then offer friendship. How hounerable.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:38
Ill think about it, first we need to restore our economy and rebuild the burning city, but dont you have to negotiate with the two others invading it?
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:41
if you join the R.I.A they will have no problem with it. They will gladly provide you with men money anything you need so you can help us destroy midlonia.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:42
I said I would think about it, are the two others and Midlonia giving the Burning City to me?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:42
Don't do it Camewot. Think of all the horrors that have been commited inside Camewot by Unified Sith. Remeber that he planned Genocide in your country.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:44
Unified Sith is not in a position to promise anything. He no longer has troops inside Burning City.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:45
Camewot midlonia has left the burning city. And one thing i only attacked troops all civillians had been removed from the twin cities. i harmed no civillians on purpose.

He is in an alliance with midlonia they are intending on attacking you when they force the R.I.A out if you dont join us there will be no one to help you.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:45
I know.
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:45
I speak on behalf of the R.I.A.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:46
Camewot midlonia has left the burning city. And one thing i only attacked troops all civillians had been removed from the twin cities. i harmed no civillians on purpose.

He is in an alliance with midlonia they are intending on attacking you when they force the R.I.A out if you dont join us there will be no one to help you.

whos he?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:50
Here's a quote from 'freiendly mr Sith'

''If once again we are thrust out of Camewot by foreign intervantion I sugest complete eradication of the countries population. Or the imprisonment of them as Unified Sith could use some labour for the factories''
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:50
he is momanguise.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:52
This is actually funny, Momanguise is saying youre gonna attack me, while you are saying Momanguise is gonna attack me.
I will not do anything, Im just waiting for the negotitations!
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:53
Oh yeah. I defended your country against the imperialists, sacrificed a good portion of my army, in order to defeat you. US, why don't you throw something in about the Jews, then you consipiricy thoery will be complete!
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 12:55
momanguise is at current attacking me with midlonia isnt that proof of an alliance.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:56
No, it doesent, Momanguise is attacking you and so it happens Midlonia is doing that to, is that an alliance?
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:56
Am I? Wow, I hadn't noticed.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:57
So he says....
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 12:58
Midlonia is not my ally, he is my enemys enemy.
Midlonia
09-04-2004, 12:59
I speak on behalf of the R.I.A.

no you don't Jordaxia and Gothenburg franc speak for the RIA, it's cus your all idiots that i quit, i give up with imperialism, i was more content when people just noticed that i existed, now i give up, i shall return to just being the GEM, i do not want to be assoicated with Genocide or plastacine tanks in anyway & Camewot i hate people who oppose me so do you really think i'd ally myself with a county even called Monganise. You ally with US you are sentencing yourself to death. Because i warn you now i will use nuclear missiles at you and US if necessary
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 12:59
I'm fairly confident that the RIA will give economic aid to the nation, should you join us. As I speak, I am writing a blank cheque to Camewot, for whatever aid they may need.There was an intel and phrasing screw up here. Allow me to clarify it. Momanguise is a staunch and loyal defender of Camewot. Midlonia is a traitor. He delcared war on both of us, and now we have a common enemy. From this, we have a common purpose. We can join forces, and wipe him out.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 12:59
I belife you Momanguise, after the negotiations have begon I will grant you the right to build a factory complex, ok?
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 13:00
Go to the ii room look at the declaration of war upon unified sith. momanguise has pledged military aid to midlonia. All i have to say to you camewot, is that we promise you aid economical and military what does he promise you nothing.

You can be assured that we will keep these promises as we now have a common enemy MIdlonia.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 13:02
We will talk everything out and I will make my decisions if the negotiations start ok?
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 13:11
I don't actually mean "wipe him out" in the genocidal way. Just harm him enough to make him learn his lesson, and some loyalty.
Destruction of his army, Versailles style. Although, not so bad, that starts more wars.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 13:27
I too will save my demands for the negociation table.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 13:32
Right. Looks like nobody else in the RIA will appear soon. Lets at least start the proceedings. Nobody needs to agree to anything yet, and nobody needs to continue longer than they need.
(OOC: I'm getting bored of hearing people (including myself) saying that they will wait for negotiations to commence. We'll begin on the minor details now)
Camewot
09-04-2004, 13:33
Shouldent we open up a other threat?
Unified Sith
09-04-2004, 13:34
I would like to propose that if Camewot joins the R.I.A the burning city will be returned to him however the deepwater port must open for full R.I.A use.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 13:35
Like thats gonna happen
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 13:38
Sith. That is a principle point. Reserved for when the negotiations start proper. Until then, lets get the finer details out of the road.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 13:55
Sith. That is a principle point. Reserved for when the negotiations start proper. Until then, lets get the finer details out of the road.

Like what?
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 13:59
Financial concerns, embassies (Superior communication can stop this happening again) Military concerns. Not land Demands, and issues that can literally decide the shape of the nations involved.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 14:05
U can begin now if you want...
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 14:12
Momanguise would like to see free elections throughout of Camewot, including RIA held territory.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 14:14
Momanguise would like to see free elections throughout of Camewot, including RIA held territory.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 14:17
Financial concerns.
We both suffered economically in this endeavour. However, Camewot suffered more. I will not give money, but I will send in aid workers and materials to rebuild your city.
Military. RIA forces do not want to leave the burning city. We wish it to be operated as an RIA/Camewottian port. We want this until at least Midlonia has been dealt with. We also wish to establish a Jordaxian-Ria/ Embassy in Camewot, in return for an Embassy in Jordaxia. If Momanguise wishes to also have an embassy it can be arranged fairly easily, in return for one on your soil.
Democracy? I thought that that went without saying. Most RIA members have a full democracy. (Mine might say outlawed, but it has been changed, to Elections for every office, bar prime minister, who is appointed by cabinet.)
British Communists
09-04-2004, 14:18
I agree. I would like to see the country re-unified and free elections held. The RIA will pull out and have nothing to do with Camewot again.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 14:24
Nobody said we would leave. I said we would hold elections. We need the port for now. It will be under Camewot/RIA control
Midlonia
09-04-2004, 14:31
Nobody said we would leave. I said we would hold elections. We need the port for now. It will be under Camewot/RIA control

No you genocidle maniacs will leave.. or i will make sure there will be nothing for you to leave with.
British Communists
09-04-2004, 14:34
No you'll leave, you don't NEED anything in Camewot, its time for you to go.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 14:38
Momanguise will gladly have embassys with nations that are democratic. This does not include US, who is a genocidal moron.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 14:54
1.Everyone who wants embassys in my nation, start building one!
2.Free elections will be there as common, every 4 year.
3.The port can still be occupied by the invaders IF nothing happens to the people inside, Camewotian people may travel in and out and troops are reduced to the absolute minimum, max. 500 troops...
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 15:03
Midlonia. Threatening to level the port utterly, thats stage 1 of a genocidal maniac, watch out there.
Jordaxian workers shall begin immediate construction of embassies in Camewot. Where would you like it placed? If We get permission from Momanguise, we shall arrive within the NS week to construct our embassy. You both have permission to build them in Jordaxian territory, on the central island. (That is a great honour, only Jordaxians have been allowed on the island for 60 years. It is a very cultural and dignified place, and it is rare even for most Jordaxians to be allowed within the City of Chambers, where your embassies are to be placed.)
Camewot. 500 troops is too small even to maintain a small garrison. We must request 2000.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 15:07
Put it in my capital.
Workers together with embassy workers will arrive in youre land in one week.
1500 soldiers
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 15:12
Agreeable.
Given the nature of the City of Chambers, there are no hotels inside.
You must bring your own prefabricated buildings for sleeping and suchlike, or your workers can stay on one of the resorts on the Westernmost isle, which has the highest average temperature and numerous facilities for your men to enjoy in the meantime.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 15:19
They will stay in tents, they are bringing some.
My generals advised me that 1500 soldiers are to many, we now say 1000.
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 15:25
My construction workers will arrive in on NS month. I must warn you however, that the construction of the Jorxaxian embassy inside momanguise will be moniterd by agents of the MPSA (Momanguise Peoples Security Agency) in order to plug any potential security risk.
Friyusistan
09-04-2004, 15:44
Camewot: I believe that 1500 soldiers is a VERY agreeable number, If you believe that it's too much, just let some Communist Troops in your country and we will be there if anithing happens.
Jordaxia: Workers have been sent to establich an embassy in you r country.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 15:45
Ok, Ok, 1500
But citizens are free to travel in and out the Burning City WITHOUT special passes or premissions.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 15:48
Whilst we have both acted in good faith to each other Moman, I would have thought that guards would be unnecessary. That is your decision however. Your men will still be free to come and go, without guards (unless they believe that they will be attacked. That won't happen however.)
Momanguise
09-04-2004, 15:53
I apologise for any offense taken, however I must assure youthis is simply routine procedure.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 15:54
Do we all have an agree then?
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 15:54
Security passes will be unnecessary, so that was never on the agenda until you brought it up.
Jordaxia
09-04-2004, 15:55
I believe so.
Wetland
09-04-2004, 15:56
ROtten forum
Wetland
09-04-2004, 15:57
I will not participate in these negotiations. If you need help again Camewot, just ask.
Wetland
09-04-2004, 15:57
I will not participate in these negotiations. If you need help again Camewot, just ask.
Camewot
09-04-2004, 15:57
Ok.
But what about BC and Midlonia, they wanted you guys to leave, shouldent we wait for them?
Friyusistan
09-04-2004, 15:58
I think that all this is agreeable.
Now
Let's start talking about the economic side of this....

OOC: Now I'm leaving, so you'll have to discuss it. Please don't star killing each other again! :P
imported_Vollmeria
09-04-2004, 16:12
Lets start with a real Non-Agression pact signed by all parties involved.

Only then will we be really sure the war is over, and i'll withdraw any soldier left in Camewot. Unless Camewot wants them to stay
imported_Vollmeria
09-04-2004, 16:13
Lets start with a real Non-Agression pact signed by all parties involved.

Only then will we be really sure the war is over, and i'll withdraw any soldier left in Camewot. Unless Camewot wants them to stay
Camewot
09-04-2004, 16:49
I see no need to sign such a pact...
Friyusistan
10-04-2004, 00:55
Camewot, are you insane??? Many have fougth for you, and when the peace is knocking at your door you refuse it!!!