NationStates Jolt Archive

Loweregypt is now openly declaring its position in favor of forcing Al Anbar out of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and other fellow arab nations he has invaded.
The first law of the arab world is that arab shall not attack arab and muslim shall not attack muslim.
Al Anbar has violated this law of islam. Therefore, we are forced to allow coalition forces to use our land for strikes against Al Anbar until Al Anbar withdraws from our fellow arab/muslim nations.
Loweregypt is fully capable of defending our soverignty against all aggressors.

Loweregypt has just pulled its ambassador out of Baghdad.
At the same time, Al Anbar's ambassador in Alexandria and his entire staff have just been given expulsion notices.
They have 24 hours to leave LE territory.

Loweregypt has just pulled its ambassador out of Baghdad.
At the same time, Al Anbar's ambassador in Alexandria and his entire staff have just been given expulsion notices.
They have 24 hours to leave LE territory.


I have the High-Commander of the military in Baghdad. Is he safe or should he be pulled out?

Loweregypt has just pulled its ambassador out of Baghdad.
At the same time, Al Anbar's ambassador in Alexandria and his entire staff have just been given expulsion notices.
They have 24 hours to leave LE territory.


I have the High-Commander of the military in Baghdad. Is he safe or should he be pulled out?
Pull him out.
I am massing troops along the border.

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.

Loweregypt has just pulled its ambassador out of Baghdad.
At the same time, Al Anbar's ambassador in Alexandria and his entire staff have just been given expulsion notices.
They have 24 hours to leave LE territory.


I have the High-Commander of the military in Baghdad. Is he safe or should he be pulled out?

The same that happened to LE's embassy happened to 'Apple Zer0's' embassy.

Loweregypt has just pulled its ambassador out of Baghdad.
At the same time, Al Anbar's ambassador in Alexandria and his entire staff have just been given expulsion notices.
They have 24 hours to leave LE territory.


I have the High-Commander of the military in Baghdad. Is he safe or should he be pulled out?
Pull him out.
I am massing troops along the border.



Ok I'll have him out in 24 Hours(24 minutes NS time)

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.

It seems you are violating diplomatic immunity for these people, but if they have unpaid parking tickets, i would support you keeping them in the embassy

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.

It seems you are violating diplomatic immunity for these people, but if they have unpaid parking tickets, i would support you keeping them in the embassy

OOC: What happened with you IP-check request?

The Grand Consulary of Alenteria extends an invitation for both parties to meet on board the Consul's private yacht for purposes of a peace talk. Security will be tight.

The darn mod hasn't answered yet.

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.
That is a violation of their diplomatic immunity.
In response we are rounding up all Al Anbaris inside Loweregypt.

The Grand Consulary of Alenteria extends an invitation for both parties to meet on board the Consul's private yacht for purposes of a peace talk. Security will be tight.
Loweregypt accepts this offer.

The Grand Consulary of Alenteria extends an invitation for both parties to meet on board the Consul's private yacht for purposes of a peace talk. Security will be tight.

Al Anbar would be willing to follow a diplomatical end to this heightened tensions.

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.

It seems you are violating diplomatic immunity for these people, but if they have unpaid parking tickets, i would support you keeping them in the embassy

OOC: What happened with you IP-check request?

OCC: I just filled out another request, maybe this mod will respond.

OOC: I don't have an embassy in LE.

IC:

The embassy of LE in Baghdad was surrounded by Fedayeen Saddam and several units of jihadists. There was no leaving al-Anbar without permission, it would seem.

It seems you are violating diplomatic immunity for these people, but if they have unpaid parking tickets, i would support you keeping them in the embassy

OOC: What happened with you IP-check request?

OCC: I just filled out another request, maybe this mod will respond.
Try posting in the mod forum. It worked for what's his name.

IP check for what? You dont have to tell me.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.
Loweregypt understands your need to destroy the terrorists based in those nations. We cannot, however, accept them as excuses to annex those nations whereby, depriving our fellow arabs of their right to soveringty.

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.
Loweregypt understands your need to destroy the terrorists based in those nations. We cannot, however, accept them as excuses to annex those nations whereby, depriving our fellow arabs of their right to soveringty.

What evidence can each side present for their side on this matter?

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.
Loweregypt understands your need to destroy the terrorists based in those nations. We cannot, however, accept them as excuses to annex those nations whereby, depriving our fellow arabs of their right to soveringty.

They have democracy within the framework of the government of Al Anbar. We have liberated the people from the oppressive and dictatorships of their former leaders and given them a true voice within the government. This is an improvement. Not only to their democratic rights, but also to human rights. We do not require women who do not wish to wear the veil and other clothing of conservative Islam to wear it. They have a choice now. They can wear makeup, they can attend school, they can do what they wish and hold jobs and the such. They are no longer forced to become second class citizens.

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

No you don't. Are you godmodding again?!

The first law of the arab world is that arab cannot attack arab. Al Anbar has violated arab law.

and why dont you rp our attacks?

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

Can Lower Egypt explain this in terms of your earlier staement?

The first law of the arab world is that arab cannot attack arab. Al Anbar has violated arab law.

We did not violate any "laws" for we were not the first to initiate force. They assaulted us multiple times, so we were forced to respond.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.
Loweregypt understands your need to destroy the terrorists based in those nations. We cannot, however, accept them as excuses to annex those nations whereby, depriving our fellow arabs of their right to soveringty.

They have democracy within the framework of the government of Al Anbar. We have liberated the people from the oppressive and dictatorships of their former leaders and given them a true voice within the government. This is an improvement. Not only to their democratic rights, but also to human rights. We do not require women who do not wish to wear the veil and other clothing of conservative Islam to wear it. They have a choice now. They can wear makeup, they can attend school, they can do what they wish and hold jobs and the such. They are no longer forced to become second class citizens.
There are plenty of places in the arab world where women don't have to wear veils.
If they didn't like the veil, they could have come to LE.

and why dont you rp our attacks?

I have been. I'm just one person, you are many. It takes time to think about all the attacks and the such and respond to everyone. Calm down.

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

Can Lower Egypt explain this in terms of your earlier staement?
I am forced to support coalition cause I have been attacked by Fluffywuffy and threatened with terrorism by Al Anbar. I respond by joining coalition to free fellow arab nations.

We require Al Anbar to respect soveriegnty of fellow arab nations.

We have. We do not attack nations without provocation.

Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait have all initiated or supported terrorist attacks against Al Anbar. We had to nullify these threats after the governments of the nations refused to cease their support and/or stop the attacks launched from their territories. Both the Kuwaiti and Saudi leaders have admitted their past deeds and have now decided to join their country with al Anbar willingly.
Loweregypt understands your need to destroy the terrorists based in those nations. We cannot, however, accept them as excuses to annex those nations whereby, depriving our fellow arabs of their right to soveringty.

They have democracy within the framework of the government of Al Anbar. We have liberated the people from the oppressive and dictatorships of their former leaders and given them a true voice within the government. This is an improvement. Not only to their democratic rights, but also to human rights. We do not require women who do not wish to wear the veil and other clothing of conservative Islam to wear it. They have a choice now. They can wear makeup, they can attend school, they can do what they wish and hold jobs and the such. They are no longer forced to become second class citizens.
There are plenty of places in the arab world where women don't have to wear veils.
If they didn't like the veil, they could have come to LE.

That would be nice if the governments of those nations did not restrict the movement of women. They could not even leave the country without permission of their husbands - a sure end to any endeavour to leave the country.

Surely the world has room for two non opressive regimes in the Arab World.

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

Can Lower Egypt explain this in terms of your earlier staement?
I am forced to support coalition cause I have been attacked by Fluffywuffy and threatened with terrorism by Al Anbar. I respond by joining coalition to free fellow arab nations.

We have threatened nothing.

Loweregypt, we glad to have you on board.
We already hold Beirut, Kaf, and Haql.
We need help taking that other port.

No you don't. Are you godmodding again?!
Just welcoming a new ally. Especially after you got Fluffywuffy to attack me and start another front.

The first law of the arab world is that arab cannot attack arab. Al Anbar has violated arab law.

We did not violate any "laws" for we were not the first to initiate force. They assaulted us multiple times, so we were forced to respond.
You have broken arab law by depriving arabs of their right to be seperate nations.

I ask in the interest of fairness that the allies of either side refrain from posting until they are recognized by Alenteria at the behest of either Lower Egypt or Al Anbar.

To Lower Egypt:
What role do you for see Whittier holding in the future of the Arab world if they remove Al Anbar?

To Al Anbar:
Can anyone speak on behalf of the nations which you are currently occupying?

To Lower Egypt:
What role do you for see Whittier holding in the future of the Arab world if they remove Al Anbar?
After the Al Anbar is removed, Whittier must remove its troops and let us arabs go back to our affairs.
Though we are willing to have trade with him.

To Al Anbar:
Can anyone speak on behalf of the nations which you are currently occupying?

The current governors that led the Saudi Governorate and the Kuwaiti Governorate are able to speak for those two areas.

To Lower Egypt:
Do you forsee Al Anbar being able to function within its traditional borders after they are removed from the other territories they occupy currently?

To Lower Egypt:
Do you forsee Al Anbar being able to function within its traditional borders after they are removed from the other territories they occupy currently?
They may have problems. Cause they're internal policy is based on attackign fellow arab nations.

To Lower Egypt:
Do you forsee Al Anbar being able to function within its traditional borders after they are removed from the other territories they occupy currently?
They may have problems. Cause they're internal policy is based on attackign fellow arab nations.

Our policy is not to attack other nations. Our policy is to defend ourselves. We have done so. We have not attacked anyone except in self defense.

To Lower Egypt:
Do you forsee Al Anbar being able to function within its traditional borders after they are removed from the other territories they occupy currently?
They may have problems. Cause they're internal policy is based on attackign fellow arab nations.

Our policy is not to attack other nations. Our policy is to defend ourselves. We have done so. We have not attacked anyone except in self defense.
YOu attack Kuwait, Lebanon, and Saudi arabia in self defense. Then you annex them.

To Lower Egypt:
Do you forsee Al Anbar being able to function within its traditional borders after they are removed from the other territories they occupy currently?
They may have problems. Cause they're internal policy is based on attackign fellow arab nations.

Our policy is not to attack other nations. Our policy is to defend ourselves. We have done so. We have not attacked anyone except in self defense.
YOu attack Kuwait, Lebanon, and Saudi arabia in self defense. Then you annex them.

They attacked us. We liberated them. We decided to incorporate them into a greater Arab nation where they can experience freedom and democracy.

Would it be acceptable for Al Anbar to establish Islamic governments in their current governates and then wean them from the central government over the course of 18 months. In this way no outside coalition would need be involved and the issue of terorism in these governates could be resolved before they are returned to sovereign rule. Their sovereignty would be upheld without an unnecessary conflict involving Whittier.

Would it be acceptable for Al Anbar to establish Islamic governments in their current governates and then wean them from the central government over the course of 18 months. In this way no outside coalition would need be involved and the issue of terorism in these governates could be resolved before they are returned to sovereign rule. Their sovereignty would be upheld without an unnecessary conflict involving Whittier.

We would be willing to hold a referendum in the Saudi and Kuwaiti governorates to see if they wish to remain with Al Anbar or not. If, in the rare chance that they do wish to succeed from Al Anbar, we would move them on their way to self-government over a period of 24 months.

Would it be acceptable for Al Anbar to establish Islamic governments in their current governates and then wean them from the central government over the course of 18 months. In this way no outside coalition would need be involved and the issue of terorism in these governates could be resolved before they are returned to sovereign rule. Their sovereignty would be upheld without an unnecessary conflict involving Whittier.

We would be willing to hold a referendum in the Saudi and Kuwaiti governorates to see if they wish to remain with Al Anbar or not. If, in the rare chance that they do wish to succeed from Al Anbar, we would move them on their way to self-government over a period of 24 months.
this is acceptable to LowerEgypt.

i am suspicious, as i dont think the referendum would be fair

LowerEgypt, check your Telegrams.

Please post on the talkshow as I had to postpone another issue to cover yours. http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2996021&highlight=#2996021

As it seems these terms are acceptable to both sides, let us sign them as a treaty. Alenteria will be the steward of this treaty and will observe its progress. We also stongly suggest that both Lower Egypt and Al Anbar re instate each other's embassies within the next 48 hours. Alenteria looks forward to a more peaceful future with this conflict resolved.

Will Whittier and the rest of his criminal mercenary coalition abide by this agreement?

Will Whittier and the rest of his criminal mercenary coalition abide by this agreement?

:roll:

Alenteria will recognize Whittier to answer the question put forth by Al Anbar. Please respond.

I will restate for the benefit of those entering this forum recently that nations not recognized to speak shall not or shall be ignored. That is the final warning.

We would also like to point out that Whittier and his criminal mercenaries must remove themselves within forty eight hours of this agreement from the governorates of Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

We would also like to point out that Whittier and his criminal mercenaries must remove themselves within forty eight hours of this agreement from the governorates of Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia.

Will Whittier agree to these terms? If Whittier is unable to respond may one their allies respond for them and be considered party to this treaty and its terms?

If Whittier fails to respond, any action on their part against any parties of this treaty will be considered grounds for a response by the offended party. If both sides agree to this we can sign and Whittier will be dealt with in a seperate treaty.

These terms are acceptable but until the referendums are held the coalition cannot withdraw its forces.
The referendum must free, open, and fair.
We also insist on an international monitoring crew being sent to each of the nations in question to make sure that Al Anbar does not rig the ballot.

A referendum cannot be held while territories are still occupied.

Alenteria will observe the process of the referendum as part of our treaty stewardship. Please withdraw, we will make sure that the ballot is fair.

If Whittier agrees to withdraw within 48 hours and an Alenterian Consulate established in each of the Governates to ensure a fair referendum, can we consider this resolved?

I hereby give all parties 12 hours to decide on this treaty. A lack of response will be considered an obstruction to the diplomatic process and will be met with serious consequences.

If a temporary cease fire is not observed during these twelve hours, Alenteria will deploy peace keeping forces at the behest of a complaining region.

A force of:

400,000 Troops
600 M1A1 Arbrams
200 M1A2 Arbrams
234 Mobile ICBM Launchers
23 F/A-18 Hornets
5 B-2 Bombers(Stealth)

Will be deployed to my base in Iran for defence reasons only.

They may not operate outside of your base.

I hereby give all parties 12 hours to decide on this treaty. A lack of response will be considered an obstruction to the diplomatic process and will be met with serious consequences.

We will agree to the following:

1) An immediate withdrawal of the criminal mercenaries, including Whittier, LowerEgypt, and the rest of their so called "allies". Must be completed with 48 hours.

2) A referendum to be held at a time after the criminal mercenaries leave the territories of Al Anbar, including Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq.

3) If the referendum comes out as a majority for succession from Al Anbar, then we will move the governorate toward independence within 24 months.

4) Any attempt to break the above will be treated as a declaration of war on Al Anbar.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

Who is currently in control of Iran?

Who is currently in control of Iran?



I dont know....but from my third day on NS I've had control over the captial "Tehran" as a overseas military base.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.


My forces will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points. We will stay within the 25 mile area.

If that is agreeable so be it.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.


My forces will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points. We will stay within the 25 mile area.

Yes, that is not the point.

You will stay 55 kilometers away from the Iranian-Iraqi border and you will not bring in weaponry that can hit Al Anbar from any of your positions inside Iran.

To Apple Zero:
Alenteria stongly suggests you agree to these terms. It seems your military is already overly involved in the rest of the world. If you refuse this request, Alenteria will act as steward of this treaty to ensure peace in Iran and Iraq.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.


My forces will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points. We will stay within the 25 mile area.

Yes, that is not the point.

You will stay 55 kilometers away from the Iranian-Iraqi border and you will not bring in weaponry that can hit Al Anbar from any of your positions inside Iran.


I've stated what weapons I'm bringing in. Some can hit you yes, but all these forces are to guard my holdings only. I have no postion in this conflict. What I'm bringing I'm bringing you wont stop me. I will however stay at least 55 miles off the border as best I can.

This will be sent to my base:

400,000 Troops
600 M1A1 Arbrams
200 M1A2 Arbrams
234 Mobile ICBM Launchers
23 F/A-18 Hornets
5 B-2 Bombers(Stealth)
1 Presidental Helicopter(Stealth)

It is in the interests of all nations to peacefully and diplomatically resolve this conflict with all appropriate haste. Eredron strongly urges and supports mediation.

Alenteria is in the process of resolving this conflict. Apple Zer0 needs to pose no threat to Al Anbar. Similarly all other countries involved are removing forces from Al Anbar territory and decisting inposing threats. It is Alenteria stated interest to maintain peace. it is not readily clear why Apple Zer0 needs long range weapons in their outpost in Iran.

Alenteria is in the process of resolving this conflict. Apple Zer0 needs to pose no threat to Al Anbar. Similarly all other countries involved are removing forces from Al Anbar territory and decisting inposing threats. It is Alenteria stated interest to maintain peace. it is not readily clear why Apple Zer0 needs long range weapons in their outpost in Iran.


I keep them for safty reasons. Someone invades, I fire them.

who do you fear invasion from?

who do you fear invasion from?



No one, but I want these weapons at my base in Iran until conflict is over just for safty reasons.

Then you can begin removing them iwhen this treaty is implemented at 4 pm on April 6?

Then you can begin removing them iwhen this treaty is implemented at 4 pm on April 6?


I will remove the long range weapons but not the other stuff. It stays there.

To Al Anbar:
Is it acceptable if Apple Zer0 removes his long range weapons when the treaty goes into effect?

I hereby give all parties 12 hours to decide on this treaty. A lack of response will be considered an obstruction to the diplomatic process and will be met with serious consequences.

We will agree to the following:

1) An immediate withdrawal of the criminal mercenaries, including Whittier, LowerEgypt, and the rest of their so called "allies". Must be completed with 48 hours.

2) A referendum to be held at a time after the criminal mercenaries leave the territories of Al Anbar, including Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq.

3) If the referendum comes out as a majority for succession from Al Anbar, then we will move the governorate toward independence within 24 months.

4) Any attempt to break the above will be treated as a declaration of war on Al Anbar.
1. Al Anbar is no position to be making demands.
2. Those are not your territories, you illegally invaded them.
3. The coalition will not withdraw until the referendum has been held. At least those in coalition held territory won't be forced to vote for Al Anbar with a gun held to their heads.
4. We cannot trust Al Anbar to keep its promises.
5. The issue will soon be resolved.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.
Once again, Al Anbar is threatening and bullying its neighbors. We warn Al Anbar not to make any moves toward Iran.

It is not for Saddam Hussien to dictate to his neighbors how they will prepare to defend themselves from his aggression.

Message to Lower Egypt... From New Vuhifell Embassy in Baghdad

Our military forces are more than willing to support your coalition seeing as our nation consists of many different terrains and backgrounds. Currently only air support will be lent toyour nation seeing as how the Supreme Court does not agree with sending in ground troops. We will immediatly evacuate all forein government officials in Baghdad upon their requests with the help of Orca and Paladin Helicopters.

It is also not for foreign powers to establish long range weapons programs in territories they do not claim sovereignty over.

Message to Lower Egypt... From New Vuhifell Embassy in Baghdad

Our military forces are more than willing to support your coalition seeing as our nation consists of many different terrains and backgrounds. Currently only air support will be lent toyour nation seeing as how the Supreme Court does not agree with sending in ground troops. We will immediatly evacuate all forein government officials in Baghdad upon their requests with the help of Orca and Paladin Helicopters.
Saddam Hussein is holding all foreign diplomats hostage at gun point.

It is also not for foreign powers to establish long range weapons programs in territories they do not claim sovereignty over.
I have no soveriengty over LowerEgypt, but I have long range weapons there pointed at Baghdad with LE's consent.

I hereby give all parties 12 hours to decide on this treaty. A lack of response will be considered an obstruction to the diplomatic process and will be met with serious consequences.

We will agree to the following:

1) An immediate withdrawal of the criminal mercenaries, including Whittier, LowerEgypt, and the rest of their so called "allies". Must be completed with 48 hours.

2) A referendum to be held at a time after the criminal mercenaries leave the territories of Al Anbar, including Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq.

3) If the referendum comes out as a majority for succession from Al Anbar, then we will move the governorate toward independence within 24 months.

4) Any attempt to break the above will be treated as a declaration of war on Al Anbar.
1. Al Anbar is no position to be making demands.
2. Those are not your territories, you illegally invaded them.
3. The coalition will not withdraw until the referendum has been held. At least those in coalition held territory won't be forced to vote for Al Anbar with a gun held to their heads.
4. We cannot trust Al Anbar to keep its promises.
5. The issue will soon be resolved.

1. We are in a better position then you are.

2. These are our territories until the results of the referendum.

3. You criminal mercenaries will leave or you will be destroyed by Muslims worldwide. However, in the interests of making peace, we will not move military units into areas left by the mercenaries.

4. We are more trustworthy than you. You have yet to prove any of your claims that you started this war on.

5. Yes, it will be. Either peacefully or by military conflict in which the mercenaries will lose.

To Al Anbar:
Is it acceptable if Apple Zer0 removes his long range weapons when the treaty goes into effect?

We will agree to this as long as he does not move any weapons, whether in the air, land, or sea within 55 kilometers of the border until that time.

They may not operate outside of your base.



They will be operateing within 25 miles outside of the base at some points.

You will stay 55 kilometers from the border with Al Anbar. You will also not have long range weaponry that can strike Al Anbar from Iran.
Once again, Al Anbar is threatening and bullying its neighbors. We warn Al Anbar not to make any moves toward Iran.

We do not wish to fight with Iran. Our only qualm is with Apple Zer0, an active supporter of LowerEgypt.

Message to Lower Egypt... From New Vuhifell Embassy in Baghdad

Our military forces are more than willing to support your coalition seeing as our nation consists of many different terrains and backgrounds. Currently only air support will be lent toyour nation seeing as how the Supreme Court does not agree with sending in ground troops. We will immediatly evacuate all forein government officials in Baghdad upon their requests with the help of Orca and Paladin Helicopters.
Saddam Hussein is holding all foreign diplomats hostage at gun point.

The government of Al Anbar is not "holding any foreign diplomats hostage at gun point". We are providing security for them. It is best that they do not leave the country while war is going on, especially when they may be attacked by foreign jihadists seeking the enemy.

Message to Lower Egypt... From New Vuhifell Embassy in Baghdad

Our military forces are more than willing to support your coalition seeing as our nation consists of many different terrains and backgrounds. Currently only air support will be lent toyour nation seeing as how the Supreme Court does not agree with sending in ground troops. We will immediatly evacuate all forein government officials in Baghdad upon their requests with the help of Orca and Paladin Helicopters.
Saddam Hussein is holding all foreign diplomats hostage at gun point.

The government of Al Anbar is not "holding any foreign diplomats hostage at gun point". We are providing security for them. It is best that they do not leave the country while war is going on, especially when they may be attacked by foreign jihadists seeking the enemy.
When you refuse to allow them to leave, that is called hostage taking.

BTW, Saddam Hussein is now at the top of the international most wanted list for war criminals.

Clearly, forcing Al Anbar to immediately withdraw from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait would leave those two countries crippled, with no government infrastructure to maintain order. Eredron proposes that all sides agree to a cease fire, during which negotiations may be held to end this situation without further bloodshed.

To Eredron:
There is already a treaty in place which will deal with the establishment of new governments in these governates. your proposal is basically what is being debated. we are now at the point of discussing the terms of the acceptance of such a treaty.

Message to Lower Egypt... From New Vuhifell Embassy in Baghdad

Our military forces are more than willing to support your coalition seeing as our nation consists of many different terrains and backgrounds. Currently only air support will be lent toyour nation seeing as how the Supreme Court does not agree with sending in ground troops. We will immediatly evacuate all forein government officials in Baghdad upon their requests with the help of Orca and Paladin Helicopters.
Saddam Hussein is holding all foreign diplomats hostage at gun point.

The government of Al Anbar is not "holding any foreign diplomats hostage at gun point". We are providing security for them. It is best that they do not leave the country while war is going on, especially when they may be attacked by foreign jihadists seeking the enemy.
When you refuse to allow them to leave, that is called hostage taking.

BTW, Saddam Hussein is now at the top of the international most wanted list for war criminals.

Until peace is established or these talks break down, Saddam Hussein will be given asylum on board an Alenterian ship in Alenterian waters. It is in everyone's best interest to agree to the terms of this treaty. If Whittier pulls out, Alenteria will establish an embassy and look over the drafting and implementation of the referendum.

Whittier will not withdraw its forces cause we are there under international mandate to free the nations of Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.

The only way we will cease hostility is if an international referendum, in which the community of nations decides it is alright for Saddam Hussien to attack and annex his neighbors.

I hereby give all parties 12 hours to decide on this treaty. A lack of response will be considered an obstruction to the diplomatic process and will be met with serious consequences.

We will agree to the following:

1) An immediate withdrawal of the criminal mercenaries, including Whittier, LowerEgypt, and the rest of their so called "allies". Must be completed with 48 hours.

2) A referendum to be held at a time after the criminal mercenaries leave the territories of Al Anbar, including Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Syria, and Iraq.

3) If the referendum comes out as a majority for succession from Al Anbar, then we will move the governorate toward independence within 24 months.

4) Any attempt to break the above will be treated as a declaration of war on Al Anbar.
1. Al Anbar is no position to be making demands.
2. Those are not your territories, you illegally invaded them.
3. The coalition will not withdraw until the referendum has been held. At least those in coalition held territory won't be forced to vote for Al Anbar with a gun held to their heads.
4. We cannot trust Al Anbar to keep its promises.
5. The issue will soon be resolved.

1. We are in a better position then you are.

2. These are our territories until the results of the referendum.

3. You criminal mercenaries will leave or you will be destroyed by Muslims worldwide. However, in the interests of making peace, we will not move military units into areas left by the mercenaries.

4. We are more trustworthy than you. You have yet to prove any of your claims that you started this war on.

5. Yes, it will be. Either peacefully or by military conflict in which the mercenaries will lose.
If anything Al Anbar said was even remotely true, the coalition would not have the support of so much of the international community that it currently enjoys and Al Anbar would not be internationally isolated except for those nations that are so greedy for oil they are willing to allow Saddam Hussein to ruthless attack his neighbors and rape their citizens.

Susa is willing to allow coalition forces onto its territory, in southwestern Iran, to oppose Saddam Hussein.
Susa is neutral in this conflict but we will allow coalition nations to base troops, ships, planes, and long range weapons on our territory.
We beleive we offer a very strategic location for the Coalition cause our western neighbor just happens to be Al Anbar and we feel very threatened by his recent attacks on our fellow muslim nations.

The supreme Court has been 'convinced' and New Vuhifell is now sending the 4-7th Vigilante Tank Divisions under their supervision. The 1-19th Mammoth Tank divisions will be sent toWhittier. And NV will send in the 5-9th Lowry Tank divisions into Iran and Juwait in order to free them from the rule of Saddam Heussein. All NV diplomats have been evacuated from Baghdad via 'peaceful' evacuation.

The war is over.