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incase no-one has this tech yet (modern tech) I'm copyrighting this

Tech has come a long way, but people reamain the same, I have developed a tech that will protect pilots in planes from G-forces, the cockpit fills with a milky liquid "Liquid oxygen" that will damp the effect of g-force on the body....

http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/opa/horizons/2000/fall/mouse.jpg
upper picture Early tests with the liquid proved that mice could live in the substance

any comments or idea's?

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How milky is this stuff, does it impede vision? How hard is it to use? When you get out of the plane or eject, what happens to the liquid in your lungs already?

We are interested.......

Along with this, what about the circuits on the plane? How would the pilot control the plane? Human's aren't fish.. our lungs aren't gills..

How milky is this stuff, does it impede vision? How hard is it to use? When you get out of the plane or eject, what happens to the liquid in your lungs already?

We are interested.......

The pilot uses a display imbedded in his helmet to digitally see his envioment, the liquid does not impair vision but sun light is strenghtend by it, so a closed cockpit is recomended.

Incase of ejection the entire cockpit is lauched, like a bubble, (this also relieves pysical stress on the pilot) The bubble is pressurised so G-forces have less effect, after ejection the pod is drained and the pilot can free breath

Along with this, what about the circuits on the plane? How would the pilot control the plane? Human's aren't fish.. our lungs aren't gills..

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

incase no-one has this tech yet (modern tech) I'm copyrighting this

OOC:
Well, I certainly don't intend to respect a copyright claim on this technology. Not that I intend to use breathable liquids in the near future, but this tech has been around for ages.

why?! why use mice?! they did nothing to you!

OOC:
Well, I certainly don't intend to respect a copyright claim on this technology. Not that I intend to use breathable liquids in the near future, but this tech has been around for ages.

I relise that, but no-one on NS has been using it...thus I claim it here


why?! why use mice?! they did nothing to you!

What else do you want e to use? happy dancing bunnies would be to big to put in a jar

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

you can put me in a very large jar, or a tube, i dont mind

I relise that, but no-one on NS has been using it...thus I claim it here

Well, good for you. But that isn't going to stop me ignoring your claim.

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

my point is that fetuses have liquid in there lungs and can withstand the proces, I'm replacing oxygen with an liquid equivilant, one that works just as wel

If you're reffering to the hyper-oxygenated liquids that exist iRL that you can breath, well, very few people will respect a copyright claim on anything that exists RL. And I don't recall anything about the RL version being 'milky', but instead quite transparent.

I also doubt that it would provide signifigant protection against G-forces; concusive impacts, maybe.

If you're reffering to the hyper-oxygenated liquids that exist iRL that you can breath, well, very few people will respect a copyright claim on anything that exists RL. And I don't recall anything about the RL version being 'milky', but instead quite transparent.



May I add that it is used for diving in RL, I took a concept and put a differn't (NS) spin to it, thus creating a whole new tech

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

my point is that fetuses have liquid in there lungs and can withstand the proces, I'm replacing oxygen with an liquid equivilant, one that works just as wel

I'm not saying that the oxygeny liquid thing isn't going to work, because we know it does. However, it's a poor analogy, because the pilot isn't going to be recieving oxygen via an umbilical cord.

As for having liquid in their lungs, are you sure about this? I don't think they do, because they would drown when you cut the umbilical cord, which is where they get their oxygen. Not that I've been present at any births, but I haven't heard of any babies having to cough up a lungful of liquid upon being born. They usually come out crying. Having liquid in your lungs isn't fatal in and of itself, it's the fact that it prevents you from breathing, that kills you.

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

my point is that fetuses have liquid in there lungs and can withstand the proces, I'm replacing oxygen with an liquid equivilant, one that works just as wel

I'm not saying that the oxygeny liquid thing isn't going to work, because we know it does. However, it's a poor analogy, because the pilot isn't going to be recieving oxygen via an umbilical cord.

As for having liquid in their lungs, are you sure about this? I don't think they do, because they would drown when you cut the umbilical cord, which is where they get their oxygen. Not that I've been present at any births, but I haven't heard of any babies having to cough up a lungful of liquid upon being born. They usually come out crying. Having liquid in your lungs isn't fatal in and of itself, it's the fact that it prevents you from breathing, that kills you.

Ever heard of the conccept "the water broke"?

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

my point is that fetuses have liquid in there lungs and can withstand the proces, I'm replacing oxygen with an liquid equivilant, one that works just as wel

I'm not saying that the oxygeny liquid thing isn't going to work, because we know it does. However, it's a poor analogy, because the pilot isn't going to be recieving oxygen via an umbilical cord.

As for having liquid in their lungs, are you sure about this? I don't think they do, because they would drown when you cut the umbilical cord, which is where they get their oxygen. Not that I've been present at any births, but I haven't heard of any babies having to cough up a lungful of liquid upon being born. They usually come out crying. Having liquid in your lungs isn't fatal in and of itself, it's the fact that it prevents you from breathing, that kills you.

Ever heard of the conccept "the water broke"?

Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it has come from the baby's lungs. A fetus may be suspended in liquid, but I'm not sure that it has any in its lungs.

The circuits are isolated from the cockpit, but are also water proved, the pilot controls the plane with conventional methots, and on your longs arn't gills part, your longs have been breathing liquid in the 9 months before birth and are capable to use this liquid

My biology is a bit sketchy, but I believe a fetus recieves its oxygen via the umbilical cord, and that its lungs aren't involved anywhere in the process.

my point is that fetuses have liquid in there lungs and can withstand the proces, I'm replacing oxygen with an liquid equivilant, one that works just as wel

I'm not saying that the oxygeny liquid thing isn't going to work, because we know it does. However, it's a poor analogy, because the pilot isn't going to be recieving oxygen via an umbilical cord.

As for having liquid in their lungs, are you sure about this? I don't think they do, because they would drown when you cut the umbilical cord, which is where they get their oxygen. Not that I've been present at any births, but I haven't heard of any babies having to cough up a lungful of liquid upon being born. They usually come out crying. Having liquid in your lungs isn't fatal in and of itself, it's the fact that it prevents you from breathing, that kills you.

Ever heard of the conccept "the water broke"?

Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean that it has come from the baby's lungs.

Yes, that's true, the water would vomited out as soon the water broke, thus no water remaining in the lungs, but enough about biology.

I would like to hear more feedback and questions, to make this tech more believible

May I add that it is used for diving in RL, I took a concept and put a differn't (NS) spin to it, thus creating a whole new tech

Creating a new application for an old tech is not creating a new tech.

And a liquid atmosphere would provide no protection against G-forces anyway.

Errm, have you been watching Neon Genesis Evangelion recently. This ounds sorta like LCL...

Errm, have you been watching Neon Genesis Evangelion recently. This ounds sorta like LCL...

Actually no.....I don't think I remember it, what's it about?

the water would vomited out as soon the water broke, thus no water remaining in the lungs

I think it far more likely that the baby would drown.

the water would vomited out as soon the water broke, thus no water remaining in the lungs

I think it far more likely that the baby would drown.

A well, ther whole baby thing is not the point, the point is that it works.

Lol, I remember this stuff from The Abyss. Anyway, look at the mouse, it is alive, and if you need better proof, watch the above movie. I see promise in this, not necessarily as a g-force counter, but other applications. We know it works, so stop debating it. A mouse's lungs are not very different from our own, so there. Prospect, how much will the tech cost me?

Lol, I remember this stuff from The Abyss. Anyway, look at the mouse, it is alive, and if you need better proof, watch the above movie. I see promise in this, not necessarily as a g-force counter, but other applications. We know it works, so stop debating it. A mouse's lungs are not very different from our own, so there. Prospect, how much will the tech cost me?

I'm actually reviewing it to the other nations to get the bugs out.... and later add it to Technocraty Alliance, if you can add a Tech that is good to that aliance, then you obtain rights to this aswell

I think I'll have to kill the g-force counter, but I can maybe find a way around it

A well, ther whole baby thing is not the point, the point is that it works.

Oh yes, I quite agree, the technology is tried and tested. I was just being pedantic about biology :P

A well, ther whole baby thing is not the point, the point is that it works.

Oh yes, I quite agree, the technology is tried and tested. I was just being pedantic about biology :P

Okay....but do you have any comments on it?

Oh,Giant humans that fight against angels to prevent the destruction of humanity. V. good story and fantastic characters. The LCL is blood that comes from an angel that they use to bridge the synaptic link between pilot and EVA.

The liquid atmosphere stuff was hunam-tested years ago on a prematurly born infant who's lungs hadn't developed sufficently to properly process air; it's perfectly safe.

Personally, I can also see this stuff possibly finding use in, say, theme parks; being able to swim around under 'water' without SCUBA gear or having to come up for air would be pretty cool. Have to keep the kiddies out, tho, and anyone with bladder control problems ;)

you do understand this is a medical treatment originally right? for people with respiratory problems. I don't know about you, but if I was a pilot, I wouldn't want to braethe liquid when I was trying to concentrate on flying a plane at Mach 4! And with tubes giong into my lungs etc! It's ridiculous!

Where'd you get this tubes in lungs crap? There are no tubes, you actually breathe the liquid itself. Do you normally think about breathing? Then you won't think about breathing this stuff. And it's clear, no visual distortion.

Not into your lungs but like up to your mouth. Try reading the article where he got the pic from.

Not into your lungs but like up to your mouth. Try reading the article where he got the pic from.

I'm talking about a cockpit filled with the stuff, no tubes would be needed

here is what the article says:
The liquid is administered to patients suffering from severe acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and breathing with the aid of mechanical ventilation. The liquid ventilation therapy involves trickling the fluid, LiquiVent®, into the patient's lungs through the endotracheal tube.

The fluid _ a clear, colorless, oily liquid that looks and flows like water but is twice as dense _ carries oxygen and promotes respiratory gas exchange while opening up the lungs. The dense fluid also serves to wash out the ailing lungs, assisting in the removal of debris and other contaminants.

http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/opa/horizons/2000/fall/liqavent.jpg

here is what the article says:
The liquid is administered to patients suffering from severe acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) and breathing with the aid of mechanical ventilation. The liquid ventilation therapy involves trickling the fluid, LiquiVent®, into the patient's lungs through the endotracheal tube.

The fluid _ a clear, colorless, oily liquid that looks and flows like water but is twice as dense _ carries oxygen and promotes respiratory gas exchange while opening up the lungs. The dense fluid also serves to wash out the ailing lungs, assisting in the removal of debris and other contaminants.

http://www.ahsc.arizona.edu/opa/horizons/2000/fall/liqavent.jpg

Are you even reading what I'm saying?? I said I took a concept and took a differn't view of it....it no longer has anything to do with that site, on wich I based the whole thing