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This thread is to discuss the design factor, and construction of the UNSC Lunar Base, please don't flood it.



Pablicosta Space Agency Suggestion
The Triton Lunar Facility

http://kyprusplacid.edelmayerfamily.org/leviathan/triton_logo.jpg

The Triton Facility is designed to be a trade and defence outpost with an external research facility, here is an overview of the facility.

http://kyprusplacid.edelmayerfamily.org/leviathan/base.jpg

The central dome is the main communal area, featuring a stock exchange and tradin centres aswell as multiple cafe's and other ammenities. This area is designed to occupy the populus of The Triton Facility, which can reach 7,200 humans.

The series of smaller domes are designed to house the civilian population of The Triton Facility comfortably. Aproximatley 1,000 to 1,200 people can be housed in the Housing area.

Next to the housing area lies the tall towers of the refinary. Refining water and other key substances for civilian life is the main prupose of the facility, which explains the ammount of towers.

Beyond the Refinary is the Echo 1 Defence Outpost. Equiped with high tech detection capability, the Echo 1 Defence Outpost can scan the entire Solar System, stretching past Sedna. The small contingent of troops located here are a primary defence unit, armed for conflict at all times.

On the opposite side of the Communal area is the power source for the Triton Facility-Four Nuclear Reactors. The recators are programmed to run in a sequencial motion, so as to provide enough power but not to have all reactors running at full power simultaneously.

Directly Behind the Communal area you can see the Primary Missile Defence & Coordination Center (PMDC). From the PMDC missiles are automatically locked onto approaching vessels which are not classified for landing, and will fire if not deactivated in 45 seconds. This provides time to communicate with any vessel before destruction.

The PMDC also controls the EECDR, or Electric Equopment Controlled Deactivation Ray. This componant can override most electrical appliances
and take over. In the case of space craft the EECDR would take controll and direct any hostile vessels away from the base. However, some weapons systems can become invulnerable to the EECDR, and contuinue to operate independantly after he vessel is disabled.

The glass dome structure located behind the PMDC is an emergency facility. Within it lies a dome floor, leading down into a vertical tunnel. Emergency High Speed Transport Vehicles leave the bays at the top of the floor dome and head down into the tunnel, towards the reinforced underground bunker located 3km below earth level. In the bunker there is enough supplies for the populous to survive for 3 weeks before re-emerging.

In the final dome and storage facility is habitable surroundings for ther military contingent, and also the main research facility where most experiments and investigation will take place.

The grey tubing linking all the components,(except the research facility, which uses a specialised Ultra High Speed underground link direct to the communal area) is a the unnel passages, which look like this.

http://kyprusplacid.edelmayerfamily.org/leviathan/passageway_copy.jpg

The "trains" used on the system are double carriage high speed units.

http://kyprusplacid.edelmayerfamily.org/leviathan/trans_sample.jpg

Mining of the moons materials, as asked about in the UNSC regional forum, will be handed at these facilities.
http://www.spacedaily.com/images/lunar-base-cutaway-bg.jpg

An outer living are can support 5 men for 3 years, whilst the central core consists of a drill which can penetrate and then go deep underground. In avergae ground the drill would be able to access rock 133m below surface level, although this will differ with ground and gradient. Three external filter pipes will lead to central mining core, external to the main base, where rock will be collected cleaned and prepared for its next purpose.
The drill can also be addapted to drill for oil, by using the pressure pip located in its cener oil can be sucked up and then passed through a fourth pipe designated only for crude oil.


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Crop growth center
There are 3 of these facilities located arround the site, each capable of supporting 300 people on organic crops for up to 9 months.

Just two quick comments. How do you want to construct it and why don't we use solar panels? Those can be made with material on the moon and don't need a source of fuel and are therefore more economical.

We would like to purchase the design so that we may build this on the south pole of the moon. We will offer our Rocket Booster technology in exchange.

(and we would like to know what moddeling proggy you used)

:shock:
This is the UNSC! We are discussing the design of our lunar base not marketing it. So I would wait with asking for a design when we are still not sure on what that design will be precisely.

It will need more security systems. I suggest bulkheads locking off key areas and laser rifle mounts in the walls.

Oh yea I forgot. Why exactly do we need this much protection? We are a UN organisation for crying out loud. Who would in their right minds attack us!

ummm, well, Anyone?

Also meteors. And my genetically modified army.

and yes, i would like to know the name of the moddeling proggy, id like to make my boostewr system, and show you how well it would benifit your movement of supplies.

Umm... now...will this triton lunar facility be built on Triton, or Luna? LOL As far as I know, Triton is still owned by the Capsule Corporation, who distributes lands to any who purchase it from them :)

It will be built on the moon.

It will be built on the moon.....yeah, of neptune or of Earth?

There is only one Moon. If it were to be build on Triton I would have said Trition. Now have you anything constructive to add?

There is only one Moon. If it were to be build on Triton I would have said Trition. Now have you anything constructive to add?Well I'm sorry, you referred to it several times as the Triton base. :P

k, I'll go now

Doujin is very interested in this project. We offer two things.. money (25 billion dollars) and the suggested that you increase the armor. Meteors constantly hit the surface of the moon, and this base needs to be able to withstand the impact of several small meteor collisions.

I will address each issue seperatley;

Armour/Protection
Ground Offencive Attack[/i]

The base does have a small contingent of troops allocated, this number will be deicided by the UNSC at a later date. However, this force is designed to quell riots and uprisising among the populus of the Triton Base only, not for a large scale defence operation. However, the site we have recomended is located nearby (realtively) to the main Pablicostan Lunar Base, and not a milion miles from our secondary Base-so getting extra ground and air forces in for immediate defence should not be a problem.

[u]Airborn Offencive Attack

The UNSC will be offered the posibility of including three to five ground based towers, each capable of firing a high powered heat and electric charge. Early tests on a mock up version of the tower predict possible temperatures of 7.5 thousand degrees on impact over a maximum range of 1.4->5 miles. The electric capability can generate enough power to power a large town or city in a 3 to 7 second burst, capable of causing massive damage to any incoming object.
There us also the PMDC to contend with, which can propell 5 splinter rockets per second for a continued fire of 37 to 50 seconds depending on load.

Meteor or other natural disaster

We have researched the possibility of a meteor strike on the location of the base, and have found it is likely that at some point in the next five years a meteor will strike a location within a mile radius of the Triton Base. We intend to counter this with the PMDC, which in the case of a meteor strike will launch small lander vehicles, each approximatley 1.25 metres round at the incoming object. The strategical launches will land in specific positions on the object and deploy three high explosive charges each. Each charge has the possibility of drilling up to 13 metres into the rock, but if there is not enough time to drill the command will be given to explode, diverting any threat up to 7 miles away from the 5 mile protect zone. (So approximatley 12 miles away from the base in any direction)

Location

The Triton Base will be locacted on the Moon of Earth, Luna.

Doujin
Thanks, we will gratiously accept this money to go toward the project. If you would like I can raise the issue of making you a key stockholder/ Director in the UNSC? We are short of numbers Wetland...


Power
The reactors were a basic idea, designed to fit the model. I had intended to fit solar pannels though, for example the Research Base will be run independantly on Solar power. Also, I have included in the plans (on my PC) that several external solar energy "collective" points will be scattered within the 5 mile radius protection zone, but away from direct contact with anyone. This power will be routed directly to a back up generator center, which wills tore energy for any emergency. This power will be immediatley diverted to the bunker upon sound of the alarm, providing lighting and heat.

Construction

I had intended to lease out the construction, to get someone else involved. This is mainly to give the UNSC some publicity, as we are only just starting out, but also to make it easier for us, as in we only have to send stuff-not people.

Rocket Booster Tech

I will put this idea to the board Jakuul, although the Pablicostan Superfrieghters could easily do the job...If you can give us a price we may consider your offer.


Thanks,

~Pabli

The UTA welcomes you to space some what :P

We would gladly give you the designes.
Just need programs Name.

The Booster System is completly reusable, and is based off of a mix of Russian and U.S. space technologies, along with our hybred systems and subsystems.

1. Reusability, once the booster has expended 90% of its fues it will disengage, and can safly make a landing back to earth, because of is design. Also computer/human guided

2. Sub Booster Systems are also re-usable and can glide back to earth/destination. Also computer/human guided

3. Modular, The Main Booster can connect up to 10 large Sub boosters, doubling the tonnage that it can haul through brute force.

4. Ion Boosters, to save fues, these two boosters will stay on the main one, and once out of earths pull, will activate, making travel slighly slower, but much much cheaper.

5. All of these boosters and Sub Boosters can store 3 crewmembers and some cargo. making it a flight that can, if needed, go on for a month.

6. Other Systems in development for longshot travel. A wind Sail system, if the booster is not returniong to earth for a while.

As this systerm is evolving and more modular things can be put in and taken out, a few new ways for cheaper cleaner launches are in development. Such as the Nuclear Powered Ion drive system, The Laser Launch system (hitting it in spots with special plates to make it move without firing the boosters, making it cheaper to start liftoff, which usually takes up most of the fuel)

Also the VenomIV Booster Project. It is a "mega" booster system. were hoping to break the one million ton mark with just one booster with this nuclear powered laser system.

Jackuul sends deplomatic envoy to bump.

Just a few queries.
(I did those pics a long tiem ago, think I usd DOGA L3)

We would gladly give you the designes.
Just need programs Name.

The Booster System is completly reusable, and is based off of a mix of Russian and U.S. space technologies, along with our hybred systems and subsystems.

1. Reusability, once the booster has expended 90% of its fues it will disengage, and can safly make a landing back to earth, because of is design. Also computer/human guided

What if the unit is in space, or not in Earth's atmosphere?

2. Sub Booster Systems are also re-usable and can glide back to earth/destination. Also computer/human guided

3. Modular, The Main Booster can connect up to 10 large Sub boosters, doubling the tonnage that it can haul through brute force.

4. Ion Boosters, to save fues, these two boosters will stay on the main one, and once out of earths pull, will activate, making travel slighly slower, but much much cheaper.
How long can we be supported by the ion boosters, as it is only a short trip we would rpefer to do it quickly.

5. All of these boosters and Sub Boosters can store 3 crewmembers and some cargo. making it a flight that can, if needed, go on for a month.
How much cargo, I think we would fill with cargo to capacity, and have one or two crew on the main rocket.

6. Other Systems in development for longshot travel. A wind Sail system, if the booster is not returniong to earth for a while.

As this systerm is evolving and more modular things can be put in and taken out, a few new ways for cheaper cleaner launches are in development. Such as the Nuclear Powered Ion drive system, The Laser Launch system (hitting it in spots with special plates to make it move without firing the boosters, making it cheaper to start liftoff, which usually takes up most of the fuel)

Also the VenomIV Booster Project. It is a "mega" booster system. were hoping to break the one million ton mark with just one booster with this nuclear powered laser system.

answer #1
If the Unit is in space it can be retro fitted to do as you need. the Unit is fine in space, you can manuver it, and if needed, gut it out and make it a habitat. It can do many many things if its not returning to earth.
#2
Ion Booster for as long as you need, these are mostly for farther longer trips where speed isnt always needed, and orbits. very usefull for having things orbit. Remember, boosters can be taken off and used for other things. Each part can be turned into what is needed. an Ion Reactor can become a power plant, or many other things.
#3
Depends on how much you want to fill each unit with, but more cargo=less fuel. the best ones for cargo are the ion boosters, since the nuclear units are not as large.

Other notes(where can i download/buy this program)

The largest booster can be gutted and turned into a storage facility, because it has a fully working airlock system.

The sub boosters have these same systems, but on a smaller scale. Each Sub-Booster is about the size of a Saturn 5 rocket. and the main booster is basically a monolithic beast that, if light enough, can be filled with pure cargo, and the 10 sub bosters can lift it into space.

Also, more complex, but interesting, each sub-boster can have its own small boosters for manuvers in space.

The lasers take away the massive waste of fuel at lif off by pulsing a beam into the panals in the sides at the same time, this gets it up to speed and then when the booster fires, it wasts no fuel on liftoff. this saves BILLIONS.

Plus, as always, the main booster can be turned into a small craft docking bay, if needed. small transports and repair ships. you can even rotate it for artificial gravity. Also equiped with emergency systems for escape, and survival in space.

I just have one question. What kind of fuel does this system use?

Hydrogen, Uranium, Plutonium, various mixtures of volitile fumes and such, basically anything that generates power can be fitted into it.

Doujin
Thanks, we will gratiously accept this money to go toward the project. If you would like I can raise the issue of making you a key stockholder/ Director in the UNSC? We are short of numbers Wetland...

Doujin will donated another 75 billion dollars, bringing the total to 100 billion dollars, and the yes we would like that issue being made of Doujin being a key stockholder/Director in the UNSC.

OOC: Apparently, there is someone IRL that already "owns" the moon. Lunar Embassy filed Declaration of Ownership in Russia, the United States, and to the United Nations. Under the 1967 Outer Space Treaty signed by UN nations, outer space isn't subject to nationalization so no nation can claim it, leaving the private man to be able to do so. *shrug*

fine, we will just take the moon. blasted UN.

BUMP

OOC: You have not responded to my last post, Pablicosta.

sends a new envoy. who delivers this message: Jackuul would like to BUMP because of the lack of response.

OOC: That last bump wasn't needed as it was still on the upper top of the first page.. why did you do it..

OOC: You have not responded to my last post, Pablicosta.

Sorry, I didnt notice that it hadnt posted.

Is this offering of 100 Billion Dollars a donation, or a purchase of shares?

By the way I can tell you that on the UNSC Offsite forum support is good for giving you a seat on the directors board.

Donation, we will purchase 150 billion in shares.

OOC: Seeing as I didn't know I could purchase shares before until reading the NationStates thread. Where is the Offsite Forum?

OK, we acccept the 100 Bilion dollars, but most hold the shares for now, untill the organisation is up and running smothly.

Its a locked forum at an offsite location, if you get made a director I'll send you the password.

We also have a region where the directors meet. Some use puppets for that. The region is UN Space Consortium.

This needs a bump

How is the decision made on wether or not I becoem a director?

The directors are taking a vote on the matter.

Alrighty

B.ring
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P.ost

At the time I had posted it wasnt, but it took me along time to post because i was on the phone. /end explanation

Bump for bumps sake.

Bump

Bump for Stockholders

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