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The Antarctic nations of Dancing Moose and Shinoxia, together with funding from Wazican, have created two new stunning devices which are capable of bringing down even the mightest ships or torpedos while still using standard conventional technology.

I introduce:

http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Kursk_images/0501ashley_top.jpg

By traveling inside drag-cutting gas pockets, new subsea systems can move much faster than their conventional counterparts on the same amount of energy. This ASW/Anti-Surface Ship torpedo uses canted-nose cavitators to create a bubble of water vapor and gas around the projectile, allowing it to race through the water at speeds of 250mph.

This is an internal view of the first prototype (equiped with underwater rocket boosters):
http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Kursk_images/0501ashley_shkval300.gif

The Antarctic Squall torpedo (in cutaway) features a flat disk cavitator at the nose to create a partial cavity that is expanded into a supercavity by gases injected from forward-mounted vents. Small starter rockets get the weapon moving until the cavity is formed, whereupon the large central rocket kicks in.

Second prototype (with the new ramjet propulsion system and sonar):
http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Kursk_images/0501ashley_7a.jpg

Although these supercavitating torpedos do not have homing technology (at the speeds they travel at, they would be impossible to turn), they have a fixed sonar system which allows them to lock a target at a computer calculated position ahead of the enemy vessal according to its speed and trajectory. Once the torpedo is deployed, its astounding speed ensures that the enemy ship will not be able to respond preventing impact.

NOT FOR SALE
The rights to this project are being strictly withheld to other countries, any nations wishing to violate this copyright will face and immediate mobilization and invasion by the Antarctic SAND defense force.


Next up:
http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Kursk_images/0501ashley_guns210.jpg

SUBSEA GUNS. The Dancing Moose Navy has developed underwater launchers for rotating gun turrets that can be fitted below the waterline to fire "kinetic-kill" projectiles at mines, obstacles, surface craft, homing torpedoes - even low-flying airplanes and helicopters.

These guns, very similar to deck-mounted Vulcan CIWS guns, are placed with the intention of 'shooting' down homing torpedos. The only thing seperating this from CIWS guns is a coating of waterproof material and a specialized 30mm round.

http://www.diodon349.com/Kursk-Memorial/Kursk_images/0501ashley_mine225.gif

Supercavitating projectiles shot from above and below the ocean surface must fly stably in both air and water - a difficult engineering task. These guns are able to be mounted on the near underside of any surface vessal, and are directly linked to the ships sonar system, just like the Phalanx is to radar.


NOT FOR SALE
The rights to this project are being strictly withheld to other countries, any nations wishing to violate this copyright will face and immediate mobilization and invasion by the Antarctic SAND defense force.


I am open to opinions and questions, but I still retain that copys of these devices are completely prohibited to other nations, except trusted allies.

Crap. There goes my Doujin-built navy.

Precisely. However, I may have a ship sale soon.. which will include some smaller more practical battleships other than the oversized Doujin class.

We would like to announce that we are almost near completion on out-fitting our entire navy with these new technologies and are near completion on new technologies that will expand on these. Also for those who are not familiar with SAND it is a coalition of nations dedicated to protecting our homeland, it includes all of the armies and navies of over 30+ nations in antarctica and it also includes 40 CBG's on active alert.

Thanks
Wazican

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Hey how about you just stop posting. :wink:




Just jokin...

*breathes a big sigh of relief*

Thanks for the constructive sarcasm, Freethinkers. I just know your waiting for me to ask why. (I am asking, that is)

I dunno if you can copyright supercav technology, many many people already use it on submarines and torpedos, and its basically the next step in sub warfare, and is a jump that every post modern navy has made at some level. It would be like copyrighting the idea for trimarans.

Why would you put a gun under the water line and concern yourself with shooting down planes and helicopters with it? There are surface versions that do the job many times better.....

Happy Shin?

I dunno if you can copyright supercav technology, many many people already use it on submarines and torpedos, and its basically the next step in sub warfare, and is a jump that every post modern navy has made at some level. It would be like copyrighting the idea for trimarans.

Why would you put a gun under the water line and concern yourself with shooting down planes and helicopters with it? There are surface versions that do the job many times better.....

Which nations use this technology? Names? If Cav has made this technology I will cede the copyright to him but I have seen no nation make use of ths.

You said that it is a jump that every post modern navy has made? OOC the US is still working on this technology in order to catch up to the Ruskies. Again if someone else has came up with this the copyright is invalid.

Although the gun's main purpose is to shoot down torpedos, shooting down low flying aircraft is just sort of a bonus. It's nothing something that would take the place of surface versions, it's just a benefit you know?

I would like to purchase one of the fine automobiles you have for purchase. Well, maybe a nuclear submarine will do. I'll do it if I get free donuts.

Many people use supercavitating technology. For example, New Empire has used Supercavitating technology for a couple months now. Take it up with him.

OOC:
First and foremost, "copyrighting" is kind of foolish, and doesn't really work. As long as I don't see direct copies of my stuff, I'm fine with it. And since it's perfectly plausible for someone to come up with the same, or at least very similar ideas to your own, you can't really complain if they do, unless you can prove they copied directly from you.
Second, and this is something that slips the minds of many, "copyrighting" is only valid for completely original designs. You cannot take a RL weapon like the Shkval (Squall), and claim it as your own. Especially when you're waaaaaaaaay behind on making it. I ignored the great copyright thread because they were granting them for designs that were most certainly not original.
Third, "copyrighting" only works for specific designs. Even if the supercavitating torpedo idea was new, it would be perfectly acceptable for someone to make something similar, as long as it's not identical.
Finally, "copyright" is an improper term for designs, as that only applies to art, literature, and film. For actual technologies and designs, it should ICly be called a "patent," as has been mentioned several times in the past. "Copyright" would be entirely OOCly, which rather defeats the purpose.

I dunno if you can copyright supercav technology, many many people already use it on submarines and torpedos, and its basically the next step in sub warfare, and is a jump that every post modern navy has made at some level. It would be like copyrighting the idea for trimarans.

Why would you put a gun under the water line and concern yourself with shooting down planes and helicopters with it? There are surface versions that do the job many times better.....

Which nations use this technology? Names? If Cav has made this technology I will cede the copyright to him but I have seen no nation make use of ths.

You said that it is a jump that every post modern navy has made? OOC the US is still working on this technology in order to catch up to the Ruskies. Again if someone else has came up with this the copyright is invalid.

Although the gun's main purpose is to shoot down torpedos, shooting down low flying aircraft is just sort of a bonus. It's nothing something that would take the place of surface versions, it's just a benefit you know?
http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1661571#1661571
They're down a ways, but the Type 62 and Type 62B underwater rockets are clearly supercavitating torpedoes.
I've been selling them for longer than that thread has existed, so this design dates back to sometime last year. Don't recall for certain, but I think this was actually part of the original store. Now that's a long time ago. I was about the third player I noticed to have them.

Oh, actually no reason, I thought you might have developed an orbital bombardment platform or something. Didnt expect something so....commonly used?

Chardonay also has a supercavicating weapons program, directed mainly to torepedo defence/mine clearing, but the possibility of a supercavicating assault boat and a supercavicatign"Shotgun" torpedo are being investigated too. This began several weeks ago. Also the American supercavicating program has 20mm and 30mm supercavicating cannon... that have a range of only a couple of meters. Useless as an AA weapon. And I read the same Scientific american article... a couple of years ago....

Since people already use supercavitating technology, then just consider this thread an announcement that Antarctica has adopted this technology.

Clan, ok, I get it. No need to exclaim your point like that. I just see people like Unum 'copyrighting' or protecting his unoriginal ideas.. and well.. just went fromt there.

Freethinkers, im just not going to say anything. Your so tied up with people telling you 'oh thats a big ship' that you now completely think it is invincible.

Well, it's nice to see someone doing SuCav stuff... Although we've been using this since June, and are ahead of America and Russia by a few decades.... I love postmodern tech.

Supercativation, eh? Interesting...

Very well New Empire, I will respect your wishes, if you wish me to not use this technology.

No, no, no. You can use it, everyone can.