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AlAnbar declares Whittier's war based on lies;calls for help

30-03-2004, 05:18
Ministry for Foreign Affairs

The Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar would like to point out to our recent statements proclaiming our innocence and Whittier's lack of response to proof his falsified claims that he has started a war on.

( http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135273 - look towards the bottom couple posts, I refute them and then ask Whittier to proof them again, but he doesn't respond)

We are now official calling on all nations worldwide to defeat this blatant act of aggression of Whittier. He must be defeated. His lightly veiled attempts to seize the rich oil fields of the Middle East have been broken. It is obvious what he wants - oil. The last time he tried to attack Al Anbar and Israel (Fluffywuffy), he was forced to flee when the powers of the world joined together to defeat him. We must do so again, to show that he cannot just attack nations wanton for their resources.

Join us in defeating this imperialistic racist nation!

(OOC: Whittier's invasion of Israel & Al Anbar: http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134150&highlight= )
30-03-2004, 05:21
As also proven that Whittier is a liar is a statement by the Israeli/Fluffywuffy government.

http://www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134283&highlight=
The Atheists Reality
30-03-2004, 05:21
not for oil, to prevent you from infringing on the soveriegnty of the countries you have invaded
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 05:21
Well, I did reply in the war section. But ill ask again.

We are too small to become a fighting power, but we can smuggle weapons in. What do you need in that regard?
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:21
This is not about Whittier nor is it about Israel. It is about Al Anbars repeated attacks on its neighbors and its support for international terrorism.
Diminix
30-03-2004, 05:22
What's up with my attack? You ever going to reply?
30-03-2004, 05:23
This is not about Whittier nor is it about Israel. It is about Al Anbars repeated attacks on its neighbors and its support for international terrorism.

We both know that it is for oil only. You have no proof of our support for this "international terrorism", simply because we do not support 'terrorists'. Saudi Arabia and Kuwait has joined Al Anbar in an alliance as announced by both the former leaders of these nations. We have brought security and stability to the region, only now to have it ruined by your wreckless acts. For example, the bombing of the holy city of Mecca.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:24
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198
30-03-2004, 05:24
I would like to express support of (insert name of country supporting international terrorism against gerbils).
30-03-2004, 05:26
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.

The majority of the scholars that issued calls for a defensive jihad against your forces are ardent anti-Al Anbar clerics for we do not subscribe to the extremist nature of Islam and follow a secular path.

You have yet to provide any viable proof.
30-03-2004, 05:28
We demand that you admit responsibility for the destruction of Lempi's Pub.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:28
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.
The fact is, we did not bomb Mecca, a former coalition member, who was forced out of the war did.
30-03-2004, 05:30
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.
The fact is, we did not bomb Mecca, a former coalition member, who was forced out of the war did.

It is your fault for allowing it to happen. He was not forced out, as you say, but agreed to stop fighting on his own will. There was no condemnation of this terrible attack.

If it was not for your imperialistic war, it would never have been damaged. It is your fault, rightfully. You have created this situation, not us.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:33
The confessions of the royal families of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are highly suspicious in that they were made from inside Al Anbar, instead of a neutral nation.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2967277&highlight=#2967277
If Saddam was truely confident that these are true confessions then why does he not allow them to travel to neutral third nations where they can confirm that the confessions were voluntary rather than under extreme stress.

OOC: And AA should have let some one else rp the S & K royal families.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:35
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.
The fact is, we did not bomb Mecca, a former coalition member, who was forced out of the war did.

It is your fault for allowing it to happen. He was not forced out, as you say, but agreed to stop fighting on his own will. There was no condemnation of this terrible attack.

If it was not for your imperialistic war, it would never have been damaged. It is your fault, rightfully. You have created this situation, not us.
And you have used it as an excuse to promote global terrorism.
We have condemned the attack and we have dealt with Eredron. We are now in the process of seeking the extradition of the pilots involved so that the International Court of the Hague (in europe) can try them for crimes against humanity and for destroying a peice of human heritage.
30-03-2004, 05:36
The confessions of the royal families of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are highly suspicious in that they were made from inside Al Anbar, instead of a neutral nation.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2967277&highlight=#2967277
If Saddam was truely confident that these are true confessions then why does he not allow them to travel to neutral third nations where they can confirm that the confessions were voluntary rather than under extreme stress.

OOC: And AA should have let some one else rp the S & K royal families.

The government of Al Anbar has not pressured anyone to make any statements against their will. However, if this is the only way to prove that Whittier is a liar, we would be willing to send them to either Palestine or Iran.

(OOC: No.)
30-03-2004, 05:38
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.
The fact is, we did not bomb Mecca, a former coalition member, who was forced out of the war did.

It is your fault for allowing it to happen. He was not forced out, as you say, but agreed to stop fighting on his own will. There was no condemnation of this terrible attack.

If it was not for your imperialistic war, it would never have been damaged. It is your fault, rightfully. You have created this situation, not us.
And you have used it as an excuse to promote global terrorism.
We have condemned the attack and we have dealt with Eredron. We are now in the process of seeking the extradition of the pilots involved so that the International Court of the Hague (in europe) can try them for crimes against humanity and for destroying a peice of human heritage.

We have only condemned the situation. We have done nothing more than that. You still have no proof of any of your claims for war that have killed tens of thousands so far, maimed thousands of others, and the tens of thousands that have yet died. End this pointless war now before more death and destruction occurs because of your lies.
Chochezkoo
30-03-2004, 05:38
Chochezkoo is willing to act as a nuetral third party in this situation, and is willling to host peacetalks.

Iff the two quarreling nations are willing of course...
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:39
This is not the first time that Saddam has sought to fool the international community.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2958792&highlight=#2958792

The world didn't believe him then and it won't believe him now.
30-03-2004, 05:39
Chochezkoo is willing to act as a nuetral third party in this situation, and is willling to host peacetalks.

Iff the two quarreling nations are willing of course...

As we have stated in the past, the Arab Socialist Republic of Al Anbar will submit to a diplomatical end to this conflict and is willing to negotiate.
30-03-2004, 05:41
This is not the first time that Saddam has sought to fool the international community.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2958792&highlight=#2958792

The world didn't believe him then and it won't believe him now.

The destablization of the region is fully your fault. We will triumph in the end, for we have the backing of billions of Muslims worldwide. You are the one that have only a few men here and there with no friends in the region.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:41
Let us talk about Al Anbars support of international terrorists and his call for a global holy war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=135198


We do not support terrorists. We did not call for holy war. It is clerics of the Muslim world that did after you disregard for the holy city of Mecca. You heavily damaged the city by your wanton aggression by bombing the city. We did not declare this, nor are we in a position to.
The fact is, we did not bomb Mecca, a former coalition member, who was forced out of the war did.

It is your fault for allowing it to happen. He was not forced out, as you say, but agreed to stop fighting on his own will. There was no condemnation of this terrible attack.

If it was not for your imperialistic war, it would never have been damaged. It is your fault, rightfully. You have created this situation, not us.
And you have used it as an excuse to promote global terrorism.
We have condemned the attack and we have dealt with Eredron. We are now in the process of seeking the extradition of the pilots involved so that the International Court of the Hague (in europe) can try them for crimes against humanity and for destroying a peice of human heritage.

We have only condemned the situation. We have done nothing more than that. You still have no proof of any of your claims for war that have killed tens of thousands so far, maimed thousands of others, and the tens of thousands that have yet died. End this pointless war now before more death and destruction occurs because of your lies.
If Saddam Hussein truly wanted peace, he would withdraw from the nations he has attacked. And he would pay them reparations. He would also stop supporting international terrorism and condemn terrorist groups.
Chochezkoo
30-03-2004, 05:43
Whittier, What proof do you have to support these acusations that Al anbar has harbored terrorists?
30-03-2004, 05:44
If Saddam Hussein truly wanted peace, he would withdraw from the nations he has attacked. And he would pay them reparations. He would also stop supporting international terrorism and condemn terrorist groups.

We once again reiterate:

We have joined in a union with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The former leaders have admitted it.

We have never supported "international terrorism". You still have brought no proof of this. This is also contradictory with your recent statements that "this isn't about terrorism".

You are a liar and a thief. It is best you make peace now before the world finds out what a liar and murderer you are.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:44
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 05:45
*feels ignored*
30-03-2004, 05:46
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
30-03-2004, 05:46
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Chochezkoo
30-03-2004, 05:46
Al Anbar, please control your acusations as well, Eventually, we will work out all of these insults that you two are flinging, and we will find a way to prevent more bloodshed.

I ask again, please control your acusations so we can get to the bottom of this.
Chochezkoo
30-03-2004, 05:47
Al Anbar, please control your acusations as well, Eventually, we will work out all of these insults that you two are flinging, and we will find a way to prevent more bloodshed.

I ask again, please control your acusations so we can get to the bottom of this.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:47
If Saddam Hussein truly wanted peace, he would withdraw from the nations he has attacked. And he would pay them reparations. He would also stop supporting international terrorism and condemn terrorist groups.

We once again reiterate:

We have joined in a union with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The former leaders have admitted it.

We have never supported "international terrorism". You still have brought no proof of this. This is also contradictory with your recent statements that "this isn't about terrorism".

You are a liar and a thief. It is best you make peace now before the world finds out what a liar and murderer you are.
Terrorism was not an issue until your agents disguised as clerics called for global terror attacks.
30-03-2004, 05:47
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
30-03-2004, 05:49
If Saddam Hussein truly wanted peace, he would withdraw from the nations he has attacked. And he would pay them reparations. He would also stop supporting international terrorism and condemn terrorist groups.

We once again reiterate:

We have joined in a union with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The former leaders have admitted it.

We have never supported "international terrorism". You still have brought no proof of this. This is also contradictory with your recent statements that "this isn't about terrorism".

You are a liar and a thief. It is best you make peace now before the world finds out what a liar and murderer you are.
Terrorism was not an issue until your agents disguised as clerics called for global terror attacks.

Yes, of course! The most highly respected clerics throughout the entire Muslim world are agents of Al Anbar! Amazing!
30-03-2004, 05:49
30-03-2004, 05:50
If Saddam Hussein truly wanted peace, he would withdraw from the nations he has attacked. And he would pay them reparations. He would also stop supporting international terrorism and condemn terrorist groups.

We once again reiterate:

We have joined in a union with Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. The former leaders have admitted it.

We have never supported "international terrorism". You still have brought no proof of this. This is also contradictory with your recent statements that "this isn't about terrorism".

You are a liar and a thief. It is best you make peace now before the world finds out what a liar and murderer you are.
Terrorism was not an issue until your agents disguised as clerics called for global terror attacks.

Yes, of course! The most highly respected clerics throughout the entire Muslim world are agents of Al Anbar! Amazing!
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:50
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
30-03-2004, 05:52
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:56
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20
30-03-2004, 05:58
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 05:59
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
First the rulers of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are your bitter enemies, now they're your best friends. Very suspicious.
30-03-2004, 06:00
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
First the rulers of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are your bitter enemies, now they're your best friends. Very suspicious.

At one point, they were enemies of Al Anbar, but not anymore.
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:01
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
First the rulers of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are your bitter enemies, now they're your best friends. Very suspicious.

OCC: i don't want to get involved but wouldn't that be classed as a GODMOD as re is stating what people say and think from certain nations not owned by him or i think any one? (does any 1 own these?) Because if no 1 owns these nations in this RP the population would be expected to fight to keep there country free from outsiders....
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:02
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:04
Doujin feels Whittiers motivation is to keep Al Anbar from controling one of the largest oil concentrations on the planet. However, while Al Anbar controling the worlds largest source of petroleum, the nation is also bringing greater stability to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Whittier, your "International Law" does not pertain to Al Anbar, unless Al Anbar has signed this "International Law" treaty into it's government, which it has not.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:04
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
First the rulers of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are your bitter enemies, now they're your best friends. Very suspicious.

OCC: i don't want to get involved but wouldn't that be classed as a GODMOD as re is stating what people say and think from certain nations not owned by him or i think any one? (does any 1 own these?) Because if no 1 owns these nations in this RP the population would be expected to fight to keep there country free from outsiders....
OOC: that is what I have been trying to argue from in IC perspective but as you have seen, AA refuses to let someone else rp them.
30-03-2004, 06:05
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.

"International law" as in the Whittier Pact which neither Palestine or Al Anbar has signed on to?

They were not forced out with lethal force. They were not forced out because of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship. They were not citizens of Palestine and were stealing significant parts of Palestinian land. They were, however, citizens of Israel. Why not send them back to their home country where they can live with the full benefits of citizenship? In Palestine, they would have become homeless, for "their" land was not owned by them.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:06
Proof that Al Anbar has been using oil to bribe nations into letting it attack its neighbors.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133327&postdays=0postorder=asc&start=0
30-03-2004, 06:06
Doujin feels Whittiers motivation is to keep Al Anbar from controling one of the largest oil concentrations on the planet. However, while Al Anbar controling the worlds largest source of petroleum, the nation is also bringing greater stability to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Whittier, your "International Law" does not pertain to Al Anbar, unless Al Anbar has signed this "International Law" treaty into it's government, which it has not.

We thank you for your words of support.

We would like to add that we do not plan to disrupt the supply of oil to the world at anypoint. We continue to honour all agreements made with the former Saudi and Kuwaiti governments and look to sign more contracts.
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 06:07
*still feels like he is being ignored*
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:08
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.

"International law" as in the Whittier Pact which neither Palestine or Al Anbar has signed on to?

They were not forced out with lethal force. They were not forced out because of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship. They were not citizens of Palestine and were stealing significant parts of Palestinian land. They were, however, citizens of Israel. Why not send them back to their home country where they can live with the full benefits of citizenship? In Palestine, they would have become homeless, for "their" land was not owned by them.
Here, we have Saddam Hussein contradicting himself. First he says they were not forced cause of their citizenship. Then he says they were forced out precisely because of their citizenship.
We submit that Al Anbar has been caught in another lie.
30-03-2004, 06:08
Proof that Al Anbar has been using oil to bribe nations into letting it attack its neighbors.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133327&postdays=0postorder=asc&start=0

OOC: Uh, you ICly have no idea about that other than a contract was signed. Nothing more. It's not bribery anyway.

IC:

We signed an oil contract. That does not mean bribery. If that is so, every nation that sells oil is bribing the other country.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:09
Doujin feels Whittiers motivation is to keep Al Anbar from controling one of the largest oil concentrations on the planet. However, while Al Anbar controling the worlds largest source of petroleum, the nation is also bringing greater stability to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Whittier, your "International Law" does not pertain to Al Anbar, unless Al Anbar has signed this "International Law" treaty into it's government, which it has not.

We thank you for your words of support.

We would like to add that we do not plan to disrupt the supply of oil to the world at anypoint. We continue to honour all agreements made with the former Saudi and Kuwaiti governments and look to sign more contracts.
He admits it.
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:09
Doujin feels Whittiers motivation is to keep Al Anbar from controling one of the largest oil concentrations on the planet. However, while Al Anbar controling the worlds largest source of petroleum, the nation is also bringing greater stability to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Whittier, your "International Law" does not pertain to Al Anbar, unless Al Anbar has signed this "International Law" treaty into it's government, which it has not.

We thank you for your words of support.

We would like to add that we do not plan to disrupt the supply of oil to the world at anypoint. We continue to honour all agreements made with the former Saudi and Kuwaiti governments and look to sign more contracts.
OCC: i still don't want to get involved, but what happens if the Nations he invaded had signed it? But we don't know that because no 1 actually controls these nations in this Role Play and Al Anbar is controlling what they are saying, Now wouldn't this in it self be a GODMOD by saying what the population thinks when he isn't a part of the population when no 1 controls it?
30-03-2004, 06:09
Here, we have Saddam Hussein contradicting himself. First he says they were not forced cause of their citizenship. Then he says they were forced out precisely because of their citizenship.
We submit that Al Anbar has been caught in another lie.

We are not sure what you are talking about.

We clearly stated twice they were sent away because they were not citizens of Palestine and they did not own the land that they were on. They had nothing in Palestine.

They were citizens of Israel.

They had illegally moved onto these lands.

They were sent back.

We also refuse to discuss this matter any further for this has nothing to do with the present conflict, unless you are again changing the "reason for war".
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:10
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.

"International law" as in the Whittier Pact which neither Palestine or Al Anbar has signed on to?

They were not forced out with lethal force. They were not forced out because of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship. They were not citizens of Palestine and were stealing significant parts of Palestinian land. They were, however, citizens of Israel. Why not send them back to their home country where they can live with the full benefits of citizenship? In Palestine, they would have become homeless, for "their" land was not owned by them.
We note that in the same thread, Saddam Hussein openly states his hatred for Israel.
30-03-2004, 06:10
Doujin feels Whittiers motivation is to keep Al Anbar from controling one of the largest oil concentrations on the planet. However, while Al Anbar controling the worlds largest source of petroleum, the nation is also bringing greater stability to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

Whittier, your "International Law" does not pertain to Al Anbar, unless Al Anbar has signed this "International Law" treaty into it's government, which it has not.

We thank you for your words of support.

We would like to add that we do not plan to disrupt the supply of oil to the world at anypoint. We continue to honour all agreements made with the former Saudi and Kuwaiti governments and look to sign more contracts.
He admits it.

Admit that we don't look to disrupt the oil supply? Why, thank you for acknowledging that!
30-03-2004, 06:11
Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.

"International law" as in the Whittier Pact which neither Palestine or Al Anbar has signed on to?

They were not forced out with lethal force. They were not forced out because of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship. They were not citizens of Palestine and were stealing significant parts of Palestinian land. They were, however, citizens of Israel. Why not send them back to their home country where they can live with the full benefits of citizenship? In Palestine, they would have become homeless, for "their" land was not owned by them.
We note that in the same thread, Saddam Hussein openly states his hatred for Israel.

You're a liar.

(OOC: Indeed.)
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:15
His invasion of Lebanon which he admits is still being resisted by the Lebanese people:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2929355&highlight=#2929355
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:16
[quote=Whittier]Proof that Saddam supported ethnic cleansing in Palestine:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133937&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

That was not ethnic cleansing. They were not citizens of Palestine. They were, however, citizens of Israel. They did not own the land that they lived on. They had no place in Palestine. Families that lived in Palestine before the first settlements started popping up were allowed to live in peace and were afforded the rights of an Arab Palestinian citizen.

Once again, it has nothing to do with this conflict, unless you are once again changing your "reasons" for this criminal war. The Palestinian government had every right to do what they did to the squatters.
International law states you may not use lethal military force to force people out of their homes simply cause of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship.

"International law" as in the Whittier Pact which neither Palestine or Al Anbar has signed on to?

They were not forced out with lethal force. They were not forced out because of their nationality, race, ethnicity, or citizenship. They were not citizens of Palestine and were stealing significant parts of Palestinian land. They were, however, citizens of Israel. Why not send them back to their home country where they can live with the full benefits of citizenship? In Palestine, they would have become homeless, for "their" land was not owned by them.

You are a liar.

(OOC: I'm getting sick of this. You lie too much.)
Saddam getting very desperate and calling himself a liar.
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:17
I still do not find you giving us evidence of him supporting terrorist acts, Whittier.
30-03-2004, 06:18
His invasion of Lebanon which he admits is still being resisted by the Lebanese people:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2929355&highlight=#2929355

OOC: You're really being retarded.

IC:

It was two news stories based on rumours. Nothing of the such happened.
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 06:18
Because of our strategic interests that lie with Doujin, our course of action will rest with him.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:20
Proof of Saddam animosity toward the states of Israel:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2923431&highlight=#2923431
30-03-2004, 06:21
Proof of Saddam animosity toward the states of Israel:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2923431&highlight=#2923431

By saying nothing makes us guilty of hating Israel?

Your world must be warped.
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:22
His invasion of Lebanon which he admits is still being resisted by the Lebanese people:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2929355&highlight=#2929355

OOC: You're really a retard. It was two news stories based on rumours. I can't stand RPing with you anymore.

I find it really hard how u are controlling how other nations react to you annaxing them some one else should of role played the nations speaking on there behalf but u are GODMODDING by saying they want to be part of it and so on..... It would never happen today in RL so how do you expect it to happen in a RP and people are happy with such a change i find it really hard.

OCC: I refuse to get involved I am just explaining it from my point of view.
30-03-2004, 06:22
I still do not find you giving us evidence of him supporting terrorist acts, Whittier.

Yes, of course you won't simply because we don't support terrorists.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:23
Al Anbar says they are not out to destroy Israel and its people but:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133203&postdays=0postorder=asc&start=0
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:23
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:24
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
30-03-2004, 06:24
Al Anbar says they are not out to destroy Israel and its people but:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133203&postdays=0postorder=asc&start=0

Once again, that is simply to defend the lands of Palestine. If you read a few statements after that, you will find the truth out. We have no qualms with Israel that exists in the pre-1967 borders.
30-03-2004, 06:25
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

OOC: Iraq took control over Kuwait in less than one day.

Iraq controlled Kuwait from August 2, 1990 to February 26, 1991.
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:25
I'm not interested in the US aspect, I'm interested in the time it took Iraq to take control of Kuwait. I should have worded my question better.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:26
Another instance of Saddam's refusal to accept the right of Israel to exist:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2922563&highlight=#2922563
30-03-2004, 06:27
Another instance of Saddam's refusal to accept the right of Israel to exist:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2922563&highlight=#2922563

Yes, saying we do not support Nazi nations is not accepting the existance of Israel.
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:28
I'm not interested in the US aspect, I'm interested in the time it took Iraq to take control of Kuwait. I should have worded my question better.

Its really a hard one to talk about because there was never reports of resistance from Kuwaitis because of the lock on news sources, So really there is no way to tell. There can be guess's and so on, But i think you will find they really didn't like it because the Iraqi's took a lot of Gold and Belongings from the Kuwaitis back to Iraq, so i don't think they likes it at all.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:28
Other nations have noticed the warmongering of Saddam Hussein:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2920533&highlight=#2920533
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 06:28
Need to watch Al Anbar though cause this Hitler guy keeps trying to get Al Anbar help him wipe out the jews.

Al Anbar will never support Nazi-countries and their supporters.

THATS your evidence?
30-03-2004, 06:30
Other nations have noticed the warmongering of Saddam Hussein:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2920533&highlight=#2920533

OOC: If you would like to also point out that HS87 was deleted for his flaming, griefing, stalking, trolling, and racism. His thread was also deleted, so it never happened. Once again, no IC proof.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:31
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopics.php?t=132987&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:32
The true reason for the war:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2957447&highlight=#2957447

It is funny how you continue to change the "real reason" for the war.
Further proof:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=134725&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It is none of your business what happens within the Arab world. The Saudi and Kuwaiti leadership have agreed to join with us. You are now the enemies of all Muslims should you continue to prosecute this criminal war against us.
First the rulers of Kuwait and Saudi Arabia are your bitter enemies, now they're your best friends. Very suspicious.

At one point, they were enemies of Al Anbar, but not anymore.
overnight? Then let them leave for a neutral nation.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:33
Proof that Al Anbar has been using oil to bribe nations into letting it attack its neighbors.
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=133327&postdays=0postorder=asc&start=0

OOC: Uh, you ICly have no idea about that other than a contract was signed. Nothing more. It's not bribery anyway.

IC:

We signed an oil contract. That does not mean bribery. If that is so, every nation that sells oil is bribing the other country.
You just did so in a concealed manner.
30-03-2004, 06:35
We once again like to point out that we have done nothing against Israel and have supported its right to exist.

We once again like to point out that we have never supported terrorism and it shows true as Whittier is unable to prove it.

We once again like to point out that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait allied with us as was admitted by both of the former rulers. Even our willingness to allow them to go to another country proves our committment to this.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:35
His invasion of Lebanon which he admits is still being resisted by the Lebanese people:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2929355&highlight=#2929355

OOC: You're really a retard. It was two news stories based on rumours. I can't stand RPing with you anymore.

I find it really hard how u are controlling how other nations react to you annaxing them some one else should of role played the nations speaking on there behalf but u are GODMODDING by saying they want to be part of it and so on..... It would never happen today in RL so how do you expect it to happen in a RP and people are happy with such a change i find it really hard.

OCC: I refuse to get involved I am just explaining it from my point of view.
ooc: I agree.
30-03-2004, 06:36
His invasion of Lebanon which he admits is still being resisted by the Lebanese people:
www.nationstates.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2929355&highlight=#2929355

OOC: You're really a retard. It was two news stories based on rumours. I can't stand RPing with you anymore.

I find it really hard how u are controlling how other nations react to you annaxing them some one else should of role played the nations speaking on there behalf but u are GODMODDING by saying they want to be part of it and so on..... It would never happen today in RL so how do you expect it to happen in a RP and people are happy with such a change i find it really hard.

OCC: I refuse to get involved I am just explaining it from my point of view.
ooc: I agree.

OOC: If you find it "so hard to believe" then both of you can go ahead and ignore me and go away.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:37
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.
30-03-2004, 06:38
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

OOC: That's wrong.

August 2 - February 26. The bombings started on January 15/16, but the ground war didn't start until late Feb.
Dr_Twist
30-03-2004, 06:39
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

I am guessing here come on i knew it was within 1 year from each other so i said a year.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:40
Need to watch Al Anbar though cause this Hitler guy keeps trying to get Al Anbar help him wipe out the jews.

Al Anbar will never support Nazi-countries and their supporters.

THATS your evidence?
No the part where he says "Al Anbar will never accept the existence of a zionist entity[AA term for Israel] on arab lands."
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:41
We once again like to point out that we have done nothing against Israel and have supported its right to exist.

We once again like to point out that we have never supported terrorism and it shows true as Whittier is unable to prove it.

We once again like to point out that Saudi Arabia and Kuwait allied with us as was admitted by both of the former rulers. Even our willingness to allow them to go to another country proves our committment to this.
We want actions not words. Let them go.
30-03-2004, 06:41
Need to watch Al Anbar though cause this Hitler guy keeps trying to get Al Anbar help him wipe out the jews.

Al Anbar will never support Nazi-countries and their supporters.

THATS your evidence?
No the part where he says "Al Anbar will never accept the existence of a zionist entity[AA term for Israel] on arab lands."

Yes, that means in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. After the Palestinian Authority was allowed to declare a free state within the Gaza Strip and West Bank, we ceased all actions against Israel, as can be agreed by Fluffywuffy, the nation who runs Israel.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:43
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

OOC: That's wrong.

August 2 - February 26. The bombings started on January 15/16, but the ground war didn't start until late Feb.
No, we are talking about two different things.
Iraq seized kuwait in one day and held on to it until Feb 26.
but it took only 4 and half months for the US to begin its attack on Iraq for Iraq's invasion of kuwait.
30-03-2004, 06:44
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

OOC: That's wrong.

August 2 - February 26. The bombings started on January 15/16, but the ground war didn't start until late Feb.
No, we are talking about two different things.
Iraq seized kuwait in one day and held on to it until Feb 26.
but it took only 4 and half months for the US to begin its attack on Iraq for Iraq's invasion of kuwait.

OOC: Why are you talking about August 31 then?
The Atheists Reality
30-03-2004, 06:45
The government of TAR asks whittier whether is its permissable to use a small, low-yield nuclear device on the king khalid military city?
30-03-2004, 06:46
The government of TAR asks whittier whether is its permissable to use a small, low-yield nuclear device on the king khalid military city?


OOC: No. No WMDs. This is what everyone agreed to in the beginning.
The Atheists Reality
30-03-2004, 06:47
its not a city fucker, it's a mini nuke
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 06:48
Mini-nukes still cause large amounts of radiation
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:49
No.
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:51
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

OOC: That's wrong.

August 2 - February 26. The bombings started on January 15/16, but the ground war didn't start until late Feb.
No, we are talking about two different things.
Iraq seized kuwait in one day and held on to it until Feb 26.
but it took only 4 and half months for the US to begin its attack on Iraq for Iraq's invasion of kuwait.

OOC: Why are you talking about August 31 then?
Cause Iraq invaded kuwait on August 31.
The Atheists Reality
30-03-2004, 06:52
deat
The Atheists Reality
30-03-2004, 06:52
conventienal(sp) attack then


will start work on little or no radiation nuke
Whittier
30-03-2004, 06:52
The government of TAR asks whittier whether is its permissable to use a small, low-yield nuclear device on the king khalid military city?
As posted in the other thread, only if AA uses any type of WMD.
30-03-2004, 06:53
Dr_Twist, how long roughl did it take Saddam to take control of Kuwait before the US stepped in??

From the Iraq Invasion of Kuwait to the Invasion from the USA to IRAQ/Kuwait took about 1 Year.
Actually, Iraq invaded Kuwait on August 31 and the US invaded Iraq on January 15. That's actually a little less than 5 months.

OOC: That's wrong.

August 2 - February 26. The bombings started on January 15/16, but the ground war didn't start until late Feb.
No, we are talking about two different things.
Iraq seized kuwait in one day and held on to it until Feb 26.
but it took only 4 and half months for the US to begin its attack on Iraq for Iraq's invasion of kuwait.

OOC: Why are you talking about August 31 then?
Cause Iraq invaded kuwait on August 31.

OOC: No, IRAQ went to Kuwait on AUGUST 2, 1990.

Go research something about Iraq and Kuwait.
LeberMac
30-03-2004, 06:57
The Dominion of LeberMac eagerly awaits Al Anbar's imminent defeat, and prepares its citizens for the promise of lower gas prices.
Doujin
30-03-2004, 06:58
Doujin hereby officially supports Al Anbar. All military assets are now on Condition 4 - Purple. Doujin Naval forces are being mobilized, and Aerial assets are launching for recon. Doujin Naval assets to be posted later.
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 07:47
OOC: Yes...manipulated to my will arent you Doujin...HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAH... oh, wait, I just typed that, aww pooie.

IC. The Freethinkers have an active mutual defense agreement with the state of Doujin and will provide whatever assistance it can to support Doujin's military aims.
30-03-2004, 07:49
OOC: Oh, hey, I forgot about you, Freethinkers... didn't I? Sorry.

IC:

Secret Message to Freethinkers

While we thank you for wishing to provide us with military equipment, we have more than enough now. What we are in need of are ground forces, and an attempt to challenge the air superiority of Whittier and their allies.
Doujin
30-03-2004, 07:52
lmao..
The Freethinkers
30-03-2004, 07:52
Well, we've through our lot in with Doujin, and you will see a sudden change in the air so to speak in the very near future

:wink:
Doujin
30-03-2004, 17:57
Doujin Naval Assets - Condition 4 - Purple - High Alert Status

Main Fleet - Standby
DN Doujin - Doujin Class Super Dreadnought (In Drydock)
DN Lunar - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Infusion - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Sync - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Eden - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Hunt - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Anoit - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Thunder Child - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Mackensen - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hortaio - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Defiance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Audacious - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Becaon - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Loyalty - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Trial - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Deep Angel - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Harbringer - Astron Class FAS
DN Pecatonica - Astron Class FAS
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DN Trieste - Astron Class FAS
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Assault Fleet 1 - Active
DN Behemoth - Leviathon Class Battleship
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DN Connia - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Howth - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Silvermine - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Lough Derg - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Mag Mell - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Tir Na Nog - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Ardee - Saviour Class Medical Ship


Assault Fleet 2 - Standby
DN Connach - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Moher - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Warden - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Nightshade - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Skald - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Paladin - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Reaver - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Hunter - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Valewalker - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Sylvan - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Inconnu - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Kobold - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Valkyn - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Bonedancer - Astron Class FAS
DN Hunley - Astron Class FAS
DN Humphreys - Astron Class FAS
DN Repulse - Astron Class FAS
DN Karema - Astron Class FAS
DN Galidor - Astron Class FAS
DN Reliant - Astron Class FAS
DN Helix - Astron Class FAS
DN Solar - Astron Class FAS
DN Scimitar - Astron Class FAS
DN Dante - Astron Class FAS
DN Dolphin - Astron Class FAS
DN Whitestone - Astron Class FAS
DN Pendragon - Astron Class FAS
DN Echo - Astron Class FAS
DN Excalibur - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Excellent - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Merlin - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Mordred - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Andred - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Guinevere - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Lancelot - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Morgan Le Flay - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Kay - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Igraine - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Pellinor - River Class FR
DN Iseult - River Class FR
DN Gaheris - River Class FR
DN Nimue - River Class FR
DN Bedevere - River Class FR
DN Bors - Clan Grant FFR
DN Tristan - Clan Grant FFR
DN Percival - Clan Grant FFR
DN Oracle - Clan Grant FFR
DN Dragon - Clan Grant FFR
DN Element - Norasia Class AOE
DN Boldiam - Norasia Class AOE
DN Erasleigh - Norasia Class AOE
DN Berkstead - Norasia Class AOE
DN Sursbrooke - Norasia Class AOE
DN Benowyc - Norasia Class AOE
DN Renaris - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hurbury - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hadrian - Norasia Class AOE
DN Bledmeer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Ailinne - Norasia Class AOE
DN Scathaig - Centaur Class DDg
DN Bolg - Centaur Class DDg
DN Nottmoor - Centaur Class DDg
DN Glenlock - Centaur Class DDg
DN Scabbard - Centaur Class DDg
DN Dagda - Centaur Class DDg
DN Valhalla - Centaur Class DDg
DN Nameless - Centaur Class DDg
DN Tempest - Centaur Class DDg
DN Ravenous - Centaur Class DDg
DN Exile - Meteora Class
DN Desolate - Meteora Class
DN Battle Chime - Meteora Class
DN Sealion - Meteora Class
DN Dagger - Meteora Class
DN Matchless - Meteora Class
DN Sceptre - Meteora Class
DN Diamond - Meteora Class
DN Duncan - Meteora Class
DN Trebuchet - Meteora Class
DN Placid - Thatcher Class
DN Barm - Thatcher Class
DN Tireless - Thatcher Class
DN Trident - Thatcher Class
DN Atlantis - Thatcher Class
DN Alacrity - Thatcher Class
DN Credonia - Thatcher Class
DN Avalyn - Thatcher Class
DN Moussaka Chaos - Thatcher Class
DN Shine - Thatcher Class
DN Velvet - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Albatross - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Golden - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Catch - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Cottistock - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Tyne - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Guernsey - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Valley - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Cottesmore - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Vanquish - Saviour Class Medical Ship


Assault Fleet 3 - Refit / Training / Sea Trials
DN Kayamone - Leviathon Class Battleship
DN Brecon - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Albans - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Grafton - Infusion Class Aircraft Carrier
DN Leeds Castle - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Glasgow - Thunder Child Class Battleship
DN Endurance - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Victor - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Monmouth - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Inverness - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Cambeltown -Warspite Class SSGN
DN [i]Portland - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Argyll - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Somerset - Warspite Class SSGN
DN Sutherland - Astron Class FAS
DN Chatham - Astron Class FAS
DN Vangard - Astron Class FAS
DN Charger - Astron Class FAS
DN Ranger - Astron Class FAS
DN Blazer - Astron Class FAS
DN Dasher - Astron Class FAS
DN Exploit - Astron Class FAS
DN Express - Astron Class FAS
DN Puncher - Astron Class FAS
DN Tracker - Astron Class FAS
DN Trumpeter - Astron Class FAS
DN Sabre - Astron Class FAS
DN Smiter - Astron Class FAS
DN Biter - Astron Class FAS
DN Archer - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Gleaner - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Roebuck - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Dumbarton - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Iron Duke - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Monmouth - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Montrose - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Northumberland - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Torbay - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Trenchant - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Trafalgar - River Class FR
DN Imposis - River Class FR
DN Olympia - River Class FR
DN Illustrious - River Class FR
DN Indefatigable - River Class FR
DN Foxhound - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Warrior - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Ghurkha - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Gladiator - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Glorious - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Cleopatra - Norasia Class AOE
DN Constellation - Norasia Class AOE
DN Conquerer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Cheetah - Norasia Class AOE
DN Cobra - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hunter - Norasia Class AOE
DN Halberd - Norasia Class AOE
DN Hammer - Norasia Class AOE
DN Wave Knight - Norasia Class AOE
DN Wave Rider - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lion - Centaur Class DDG
DN Leopard - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lancer - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lightning - Centaur Class DDG
DN Locust - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ardent - Centaur Class DDG
DN Amazon - Centaur Class DDG
DN Antelope - Centaur Class DDG
DN Adventure - Centaur Class DDG
DN Archeron - Centaur Class DDG
DN Artemis - Meteora Class
DN Argus - Meteora Class
DN Avenger - Meteora Class
DN Aristotle - Meteora Class
DN Achilles - Meteora Class
DN Broadsword - Meteora Class
DN Brilliont - Meteora Class
DN Brazen - Meteora Class
DN Basilisk - Meteora Class
DN Nova Quieto - Meteora Class
DN Midland - Thatcher Class
DN Fargon - Thatcher Class
DN Rilelow - Thatcher Class
DN Balarie - Thatcher Class
DN New Hampton - Thatcher Class
DN Falkor - Thatcher Class
DN Sullun - Thatcher Class
DN Mulathorian - Thatcher Class
DN Palento - Thatcher Class
DN Bogna - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Unicorn - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Pit Isle - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Alderfuss - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Farway - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Fell Isle - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Zebra - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Zulu - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kraken - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kingfisher - Saviour Class Medical Ship


Defense Fleet 1 - Standby
DN Komodo - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Apache - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Comanche - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Inuit - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Cheyenne - Astron Class FAS
DN Cherokee - Astron Class FAS
DN Mojave - Astron Class FAS
DN Kiowa - Astron Class FAS
DN Sioux - Astron Class FAS
DN Navajo - Astron Class FAS
DN Pawnee - Astron Class FAS
DN Trublent - Astron Class FAS
DN Unbound - Astron Class FAS
DN Sanctity - Astron Class FAS
DN Dust - Astron Class FAS
DN Lake of Fire - Astron Class FAS
DN Imagination - Astron Class FAS
DN Devilry - Astron Class FAS
DN Memphis - Astron Class FAS
DN Surface Tension - Warspite SSBN
DN Ruby - Warspite SSBN
DN Lateralus - Warspite SSBN
DN Xavier - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Dulverton - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Falcon - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Falgout - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Fanning - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Fanshaw Bay - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Farquhar - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Finback - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Firebolt - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Firedrake - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Fiske - River Class FR
DN Flagstaff - River Class FR
DN Flasher - River Class FR
DN Forrest Royal - River Class FR
DN Flying Fish - River Class FR
DN Flrorkian - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Flatley - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Valdez - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Valcour - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Varian - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Vandegrift - Norasia Class AOE
DN Velocity - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vella Gulf - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vermillion - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vesole - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vesuvius - Norasia Class AOE
DN Victoria - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vincennes - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vindicator - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vreeland - Norasia Class AOE
DN Vogel - Centaur Class DDG
DN Decatur - Centaur Class DDG
DN Delong - Centaur Class DDG
DN Denebola - Centaur Class DDG
DN Denver - Centaur Class DDG
DN Devastator - Centaur Class DDG
DN Diachenko - Centaur Class DDG
DN Deyo - Centaur Class DDG
DN Diamond - Centaur Class DDG
DN Dickerson - Centaur Class DDG
DN Direct - Meteora Class
DN Dutton - Meteora Class
DN Duval County - Meteora Class
DN Dyess - Meteora Class
DN Durant - Meteora Class
DN Geiger - Meteora Class
DN Gearing - Meteora Class
DN Gato - Meteora Class
DN Gillespie - Meteora Class
DN Gosselin - Meteora Class
DN Goodrich - Thatcher Class
DN Grayling - Thatcher Class
DN Gypsy - Thatcher Class
DN Gudgeon - Thatcher Class
DN Guardfish - Thatcher Class
DN Mercury - Thatcher Class
DN Mender - Thatcher Class
DN Meadowlark - Thatcher Class
DN Meade - Thatcher Class
DN Midas - Thatcher Class
DN Midway - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Mispillion - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Mitscher - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Moale - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kellar - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kershaw - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Abbot - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Ainsworth - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kiska - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Antelope - Saviour Class Medical Ship

Defense Fleet 2 - Refit Training
DN Amick - Lunar Class Stealth Aircraft Carrier
DN Aventinus - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Knox - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Undaunted - Mackensen Class Battleship
DN Itara - Astron Class FAS
DN Iuka - Astron Class FAS
DN Iwana - Astron Class FAS
DN Oakridge - Astron Class FAS
DN Ocala - Astron Class FAS
DN Ocum - Astron Class FAS
DN Oconostota - Astron Class FAS
DN Olathe - Astron Class FAS
DN Opelika - Astron Class FAS
DN Orono - Astron Class FAS
DN Osceola - Astron Class FAS
DN Oshkosh - Astron Class FAS
DN Oswegatchie - Astron Class FAS
DN Otokomi - Astron Class FAS
DN Ottumwa - Astron Class FAS
DN Owachomo - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Owatonna - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Owzette - Warspite Class SSBN
DN Campti - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Chekilli - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Casinghead - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Cusseta - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Croaker - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Crilley - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Crandall - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Connewango - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Cod - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Paducah - Tigershark Class FFR
DN Palatka - River Class FR
DN Pampanito - River Class FR
DN Panameta - River Class FR
DN Petalesharo - River Class FR
DN Phoebus - River Class FR
DN Piqua - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Porobago - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Prevail - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Numa - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Nueces - Clan Grant Class FFR
DN Nokomis - Norasia Class AOE
DN Niantic - Norasia Class AOE
DN Nashua - Norasia Class AOE
DN Natahki - Norasia Class AOE
DN Natick - Norasia Class AOE
DN Navagtuck - Norasia Class AOE
DN Naubuc - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lelaka - Norasia Class AOE
DN Ling - Norasia Class AOE
DN Lionfish - Norasia Class AOE
DN Little Compton - Centaur Class DDG
DN Lynn Haven - Centaur Class DDG
DN Gauger - Centaur Class DDG
DN Ganadoga - Centaur Class DDG
DN Granville - Centaur Class DDG
DN Wahaka - Centaur Class DDG
DN Waneta - Centaur Class DDG
DN Wovoka - Centaur Class DDG
DN Winamac - Centaur Class DDG
DN West Milton - Centaur Class DDG
DN Weehawken - Meteora Class
DN Watseka - Meteora Class
DN Wathena - Meteora Class
DN Wapakoneta - Meteora Class
DN Wallacut - Meteora Class
DN Hackensack - Meteora Class
DN Hastwiana - Meteora Class
DN Hiamonee - Meteora Class
DN Hiawatha - Meteora Class
DN Hisada - Meteora Class
DN Hoga - Thatcher Class
DN Houma - Thatcher Class
DN Hyannis - Thatcher Class
DN Marlin - Thatcher Class
DN Manistee - Thatcher Class
DN Matunak - Thatcher Class
DN Mecosta - Thatcher Class
DN Manistee - Thatcher Class
DN Machinist - Thatcher Class
DN Migadan - Thatcher Class
DN Kakarna - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kalispell - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Keokuk - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Ketchikan - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Kewaunee - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Keyport - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kittanning - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kittaton - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Kodiak - Saviour Class Medical Ship
DN Konoka - Saviour Class Medical Ship

Escort Fleet - Standby
DN Quileute - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Range Recoverer - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Rasher - Ingenuity Class Light Carrier
DN Red Cloud - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Redwing - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Requin - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Resolute - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Resourceful - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Richland - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Roncador - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Runner - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Reliance - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Saluda - Africa Class Mine Sweeper/Layer
DN Sakarissa - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Saco - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Shabonee - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Smohalla - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Sikis - Unicorn Class Escort Corvette
DN Suitland - Visby Class Corvette
DN Steadfast - Visby Class Corvette
DN Sustain - Visby Class Corvette
DN Shamokin - Visby Class Corvette
DN Senasqua - Visby Class Corvette
DN Secota - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Shadow - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Horse - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Wolf - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Knight - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea King - Orion Class Corvette
DN Sea Lord - Orion Class Corvette
DN Orion - Orion Class Corvette
DN Turbulent - Orion Class Corvette
DN Nautilus - Orion Class Corvette
DN Neptune - Orion Class Corvette
DN Trident - Orion Class Corvette
DN Nero - Orion Class Corvette
DN Narwhal - Orion Class Corvette
DN Matchless - Orion Class Corvette
DN Yanaba - Meteora Class
DN Yanegue - Meteora Class
DN Yatanocas - Meteora Class
DN Yonaguska - Meteora Class
DN Yuma - Meteora Class